It's one race! The media need to compose themselves as they're sounding a little ridiculous. If this race was ran 10 times and we had the same outcome, then I might be concerned for the pro 200s. But, the most likely explanation is its a bit of freak race where everyone was a little off (except Sydney) - it happens! Adeleke ran a 10.84 (+3.5) 100m a few weeks ago so she is probably in sub 22 form but she came fourth. Let's run this race again in 8 weeks and see what they outcome is!
Alot of these people think it's something wrong with sprinters when they don't run the same times. It happened to Yohan Blake. Injury will nag the hell out of you in track.
Abby had surgery on both feet, one in August and the other in September and wasn't even able to jog until late December. Considering what she went through she did damn well making the 200m finals at the Trials and in any other country in the world she would be in the Olympics.
Isn't she running in a meet this coming weekend (Memorial Day 2024)? I'm not sure if its an 800m or 1500m race, but either one would be a good way to get a race under her legs before The Trials .
I really don’t think she likes being a pro athlete… would love to see her compete more but the lack of appearances or any significant updates on what she’s up to this training season is very telling.
Athing Mu is like Sydney only competes when she feels like it. They both have the same coach who makes up bullshit excuses as to why they don't compete as much as other athletes or why they drop out of events at the last minute.
I'm giving Gabby some grace...she showed up at the Bahamas relays. She ran the 4x400m and 4x100m and was instrumental in both. Sometimes folk just have an off day.
A lot can happen in the next 32 days. I’m personally not surprised of what Sidney did. She always had good foot speed. And we know she’s the queen of the 400 hurdles. I’m sure she can go sub 22 seconds. I ran against her father in college. It’s in her blood.
It's an Olympics year and the elite US sprinters are under pressure to peak at Trials and then again in Paris. These early season races are not indicative of championship potential. McLaughlin is an anomaly and so is her coach. Shericka Jackson, Abby Steiner, Gabby Thomas are quite slow right now but are all potential Olympic medallists. Keep Coach Rob away from any real athletes, he's a clickbait media guy.
What about every year peaking for world championship which was 2 weeks b4 the olympics is scheduled for this year. And they were running faster times this same time last ÿear. So i dont think its because "its early" if they need reps why skip meets. Thats not it, pro sprinters are just slower this year
@@Marcotra Edwin Moses was the most dominant athlete ever in his event, winning 122 consecutive races - including 107 consecutive finals! - and two Olympic gold medals over a nearly 10-year span in the 400-meter hurdles.
...she's been coming back from an injury since she turned pro in 2022-23. All the other runners were 'close behind' also. Abby is a very good runner, but she is an era where being very good gets you no wins....just great shows.
Abbie Steiner's running remarkably well considering that she had heel surgery late last year (but you knew that, right?). I had the same surgery a couple of months before she did, and I'm still not able to run hard for very long. I think she'll be fine by the time the Oly Trials roll around.
@@mssha1980 So what is your point? By all accounts Abby's surgery was around the middle of August. August is also the 8th month of the year being much closer to the end of the year than the start. The point of the person commenting was that they had the same surgery before or around the same time that Abby did and they are still not 100%. Surgery involving the Achilles tendon can be career ending for sprinters, so it is remarkable she is doing as well as she is. Abby couldn't do any sprint training for about six months, or did you expect her to just jump off the operating table and run sub 22's?
Right now none of the Jamaican runners are running fast either. Shericka just dropped a very unimpressive 22.82., while Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce and Elaine Thompson-Herah both still haven't ran at all. None of the young Jamaican phenomenons have looked good either really. Not one of them. And it really applies to any other fast runner out. Everyone seems to be running with heavy legs or just running bad or inconsistent. So far none of the college students has really shown the ability to run as fast after all of the NCAA Championship 😊events. Not convinced it's going to suddenly happen now.
Coach Rob, Abby went from a 22.7 to a 22.3 in to a head wind. Her personal best, which was achieved in college, is a 21. Is Sydney's personal best a 21? No! Abby's personal best is also faster than the girl in college who ran a 21 this year as well. Abby will run a 21 THIS YEAR, which is faster than even Sydney -- just sit back and watch. Remember my comment when she does.
Abby's 21.77 is the 18th fastest 200m meter ever run by a woman and she holds the college record at 21.80. Abby also holds the American indoor 200 meter record set in 2022, which is the 3nd fastest time ever run in the world and she holds the American 300m record set in 2023, which is also the 3rd fastest time ever run in the world. Abby also ran the indoor 400m in 50.59 which was the 7th fastest time in the world in 2023. Anybody that says Abby when healthy isn't one of the best athletes in the world is just wrong.
Plus sdyney is a world recordist, she on another level cause no matter what she always delivers in any event…she’s a sprinter in any sprint event. She’s better than any of them, she in a winner in the US and in the world stage.
@@Lolsweetamazone123. Well she's not a better than any of them at any sprint distance. Sydney is not a better a 60 meter runner than Abby, Gabby or Richardson. And she's not a better 100m runner than those three either, and neither is she a better 200m runner and she isn't a better 300m runner than Abby who hold's the American record. Could Sydney be a better runner than those three at those distances? It's possible, but until she does it she isn't.
@@Lolsweetamazone123. She is In the 400 but she is not better than any of them not Gabby not Abby in the 200 or 100. Gabby and Abby have personal best below 11 and below 22. 400 hurdles and 400 different story
Nothing is wrong with Abby Steiner, except, THE COMPETITION is more fierce that ever before. She will either get better, or she will not. Nothing is wrong with her.
I mean the title should be, what's wrong with Gabby Thomas? Was she not the favourite to win this? I mean Abby is recovering so I can understand but Gabby had a very poor performance.
Abby lowered her 200 meter time by 4th's of a second in just 3 weeks, another 4th's in the next month or so and she'll be well under 22 seconds. We'll just have to wait and see if she can do it and remember Abby did run the 100 meter about an hour before this race.
Evidently all of the top sprinting coaches this year have decided that their runners shouldn't be going fast this time of the year. Sydney is on a different path, but she hasn't run her Olympic event even once yet. Strange year - maybe it's the shape of things to come for Olympic years though. I don't think they did this for the 2021 Olympics, but I could be wrong.
She is not RECOVERING. She has RECOVERED. That is why she is out there racing, and this is not her first race of the season. Always having excuses for her when she does not come out on top.
You know the answer. First, Syd has had sub 22s speed since college. More importantly, Pros have only BEGUN to taper. As a long sprinter, Syd's weight room work not as intense as short sprinters' weight room work. Bobby's goal with Syd appears to be to run (at least) 2 very fast 200s before she focuses her efforts on the IH. No time to focus on 200m. Kinda like Apples 🍎 Oranges 🍊... 8:55
Excuse? We saw Abby tear up the track in college, make it to the World championships and then run a half second slower at those championships. It is called peaking at the right time. We see the Jamaicans do it all the time. Abby is right where she should be if she really wants to peak at the Olympics. Did you see where Sherika Jackson is? She will be ready when it c ounts.
What do you mean you don't know what is wrong with Abby? She's coming back from a foot injury and surgery to repair it. She on pace with her training and workload. She has to not overdue it that's what caused her injury she ran to many races to close together. Total overload. I'm rooting for Abby
When Abby went for her surgery, I felt she had left it too late for this Olympics. The Achilles tendon had to be detached, the bone trimmed to shape, and the tendon glued back on. For a runners point of view, the surgery was career threatening, which would explain why she would be very reluctant to proceed.
@@michaeledwards2251 I know it's just ridicules what people are saying. It's like they are totally uneducated. Pretty much the entire heel bone is the attachment for Achilles tendon and any removal of bone spurs in that area is going to involve the Achilles tendon and these people seem to think that she was supposed to just get up off the operating table and start running again. It takes months for complete reattachment and more months before putting large amounts of stress on it. So of course she's going to be taking it a little easy for awhile and that means not running full out on the turns or the starts of races until she confident her heel and Achilles tendon can take it. But she really didn't have any choice in getting the surgery because it was only going to get worse.
"that's what caused her injury she ran to many races to close together" ... I'm sorry, but did I miss Abby explaining the reason for her bone spurs ? Most of the time they occur because of (osteo)arthritis. Yes, Abby was running at a lot of meets before, but so are a lot of other athletes, they just aren't in the spotlight as much. I do think you are totally right about her being cautious after the surgery (as she should be) and she probably is on track for this part of the season. Hopefully she'll be fast enough to make the team, because I'm sure she'll be ready for Paris ...
@@_MicZ_ I doubt it, at least not without a serious risk of injury. As to why she didn't get surgery a year earlier, if something went wrong, there is the possibility she would have difficulty walking for the rest of her life : a genuinely terrifying prospect.
She is not RECOVERING. She has RECOVERED. That is why she is out there racing, and this is not her first race of the season. Always having excuses for her when she does not come out on top.
You also forgot to mention World Silver Medalist from 2019 Brittany Brown was also in the race placing 3rd behind Steiner by .03. She looked very solid and I won’t be surprised if she makes the Olympic team.
Jaedub86, That's a very important observation that you have made, I think some of these athletes are right now in a "calibration mode' ( and not at a 100% full output ) at this time. And the Olympics this year , are not being held near the end of a normal track season. So you are seeing a different racing / training technique ( the timing of your peek performance day ) just before a major Olympic qualifying competition that is coming up shortly on the horizon.
@@ckobo84 I think it was just the camera angle when they play the angle face on of them crossing the line I think Abby’s foot touched the ground acrossed the line while Brittany’s was still in the air so it’s possible Abby’s torso was slightly ahead of hers as well but not by much. They both looked good in the race if Brittany keeps this up she will be headed to Paris probably in the 100m though
@@ckobo84 I thought Brown was ahead of Steiner at the line as well, but have not been able to see a great angle. You'd think they would have the photo-finish angle ready to go...
Darn good question. I honestly think they are right where they want to be. They are training right through this past weekend. Think about it, Sydney nor Femke have yet to run a hurdle race. Athing or Keely have yet to run an 800. Noah or Erriyon have yet to run a 200. The list goes on. If they are top ranked athletes, they only need to round into shape 30 days from now and peak 60 days from now. Notice I said top ranked athletes. They will qualify rounding into top form. That's my humble opinion.
Years? Abby ran under 22.0 many times in 2022 and was running injured in 2023 and 2024 for isn't over yet. She's only 24 years old and has had one year as a professional and yet you are trying to make an old lady out of her? Take a look at Jackson's times in the 200 meter when she was 24 or the 100 meter, Abby is way ahead of that pace and yet you are trying to write her off. Why is that?
Overall, the 100 & 200 has been underwhelming on the men & women's side - at the pro level. I think the pros have been going heavy on the strength training, and they are much later than the college runners at switching over to speed work. In a few weeks, Gabby & Abby will be running sub-21. They will be fine. Maybe Sydney is just a beast. Maybe she switched over sooner 🤷🏾♂️
Sydney races to win.😉 even if it’s a “tune up “ race. I love her (races) but it blows my mind how much power she has! The other ladies are fast. But they visibly have fast turnover but watching Sydney (I know she’s putting out max effort at the right time) she seems to be covering a lot of ground per stride. Or is that an optical illusion? Like a deer bounding away from whatever is behind it. I’m going back and checking how many steps compared to Abby in that race. Yep yep. Sydney had from 7-10 strides less than Abby the best I could tell. Had to slow the playback speed way down.
I agree with you, their times aren’t where they should be at this point. I’m not the expert here, but I believe they’ve been running too few races. Abby got used to a crazy schedule during college, and I think she’s still adjusting. Time will tell but they’re gonna need sub 22s in the Olympics.
The US track teams are the fastest in the world (well with the Jamaicans). It’s unbelievable competition and the smallest nick makes all the difference. And, you don’t need to be nicked to lose. They are simply great.
Steiner is coming back from foot surgery as well her left Achilles was taped up. She will most likely get alot faster over the next month. Sydney has always been very fast in the 200m and most likely runs the 200 for speed work for her 4's. Thomas will be there so dont worry. Richardson is not in the picture over 200m this year....
Imma call clickbait. The only guarantee is that 9/10 of these ladies are gonna bring it. Sydney's glide / form is just unmatched. Steiner's turnover rate is world class. The only one that can mess up a good race is the starter.
Coach Rob... there's nothing wrong with Steiner...she was faced with fantastic opponents and just got beat that day but I believe she'll be where she needs ro be come trials/Paris time
I agree it is concerning that most of the US women and even the Jamaicans have not had an impressive start of their season. Abby has a little excuse because she is coming back from surgery. Personally, I think Abby should move up to the 400m. With her 200m speed she has to potential to run a sub 49 secs. Gabby Thomas may have just had a bad day. I remember last year Gabby had a few bad races before the US trails and ended up winning the 200m..
In competitive athletics, you have your bad days, better days and then a few absolutely stellar days of competition form. All from very balanced work outs / training cycles and routines , diet and sleeping , plus the number of days of rest before a competition. All combining and designed to make you at your strongest and best shape on a competition day. Easily done on paper , and much more difficult in practice.
The shocking thing is the way a 400m specialist, hurdling at that, hurdlers are usually slower than flat racers, proved herself too fast for all the athletes specializing in the 100m and 200m. As to the peaking argument, the same arguments apply to Sydney Mc Laughlin-Levrone : her history of world records suggests another one in Paris.
Now I want to see Kenni Harrison and all those super-fast 100mH ladies in a flat-out 100m race. Throw in Camacho-Quin and Amusan to really make it competitive.
Coming back from surgery is something that should not be rushed. You're risking getting worse or prolonging the recovery period if you try to do too much too fast. I don't know, but Abby could be on the pace that she has set for herself.
She's find. I feel she is trying to hard to please people. she needs to go back to those moments mand have fun. it is not easy being a pro and having to meet other peoples expectations. Run your race at your pace. Work on the little things also, you may need to change coaches....
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Calling anyone over rated because they don't finish first in every race is beyond ignorance to anyone that understands this field ! Coach Rob, you seem new here...
She ran a good race and the American 200m is up in the air for anyone right now. The time was solid and as long as Sydney does not run it anyone can win... Sydney would win if she ran it! She can do anything! She is a GOAT!
So I agree Sidney is very fast. That being said, as a coach you should know that Abby is coming off a recent foot issue, that required her to get surgery. She is very fast as well and Sidney got a great lane and Abby did not, we all know that in this sport, lane choice does make a difference in the 200.. Even if Abby never beats Sidney, its ok, Abby is still very fast and she also runs a nice 100 meter and 400 meter.
Abby, 21.77 200 meter PB, 10.90 100 meter PB. Sydney 22.07 200m PB, 11.07 100 meter PB, however not wind legal, but she was 18 at the time and is certainly faster now.
I feel like Abby wasn't going all out, don't get me wrong, she was running hard but with only a few races going into the trials she's not showing her hand and won't until the trials begin. I do believe to make the women's 200 meter team your going to have to go sub 22 or your out. I would like to see Abby run at least 1 more event prior to the trials but if not, pretty sure she'll be ready when it counts. She hasn't shown that finish like she did in her last year in college, it's coming, has to or she won't make the team!
Thanks for the comment! That really means a lot coming from someone as accomplished as yourself. Great respect for you and all you’ve done in your career.
Richardson, Steiner or Thomas One of em is not gonna make the team. And i think Thomas is safe even after this bad race. So Steiner and Richardson is gonna be Running for their lives. I dont care for either one so doesnt make a difference to me
Abby was a college student who was faster than this year’s college students. Her career has been plagued with injuries. The last one required surgery to remove a bone spur on her heel that was no doubt creating havoc with her Achilles’ tendon. She may be coming back slowly and she might need more work on her speed endurance. She definitely hasn’t done nearly the racing that she did in college that got her down to a 21.77 200 M. Gabbi I’m not sure about. She was looking pretty good earlier, I just hope she isn’t injured. She might just have been jet lagged for all I know. Is she isn’t injured, I expect she will be in there for the medals.
@@cheesebeef4902 Abby also ran 21.80 twice in 2022. And Abby holds the American record for the indoor 200m also set in 2022 and the American 300m record set in 2023. So why are you questioning Abby's time of 21.77? BTW she ran that 21.77 into a slight headwind.
It’s rare for them to do well at world championships after such a long season. But it is common for them to take spots on team USA every year, keeping pros off the team as a result. Talitha Diggs, Melissa Jefferson, and Abby Steiner all did it in the 400, 100, and 200 out of college in 2022 as American champions.
This was extremely good raise. McLaughlin did great on that 200. Abby did what I thought she was going to do but no one's talking about Brittany Brown. She's right there at the 2023 Doha silver medalist and was at the world 100m finale last year it's going to be a really tight 200 this year at USA's
College athletes normally achieve their seasonal peak for the conference championships; the pros may have a different training trajectory, where they're working on different things and intending to peak at the Olympics. E.g., for Sydney, she said this race was mainly just speed work. At this point the 200 specialists may not match her for endurance, although they might (or maybe not) have more top-end speed. Let's see how things play out.
Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate it. The pro circuit is incredibly different from the college scene. It required an athlete to compete at a high-level under more challenging circumstances. Most readily to travel around the world and still be able to compete at their best. Historically, college athletes, who are very talented burst on to the professional scene. And tend to slow down a bit in the immediate seasons after. The adjustment to professional competition is really that significant. But it is also professional athletes are vulnerable a particularly talented college runner is showing up to a USA championship event. Talitha Diggs, Melissa Jefferson, and Abby Steiner all won the USAs right after their college seasons. But none of them even got second the immediate year after turning pro.
When you take into consideration the NCAA athletics run significantly more race. When Abby was at her peak she ran 40+ races which contributed to her success. This is the reason why some runners don’t produce when they go pro. Relay running is greatly underrated in this regard because the pros have less relay opportunities. Many of the pros need more races!!!
Sydney McLaughlin was an above average 200m athlete from high school....better than all the athletes that she ran against on Saturday....not really a surprised
I would think Sydney’s back half of the 200 being so strong would be expected,since her VO2 max is naturally greater than the rest of the field . Couple that with a much longer , and more powerful hurdle type stride that is completely unleashed by not having to time her strides . There may be some coaching hints in here , with the spinning the world theory . Just my humble opinion.
Remember Sydney is being coached by the great Bobbie kersse (flo Jo Jackie Gail Valerie brico Jeannette bolden Keenan Vickers ) just saying that s only a few
Dude, Sydney is just different. It seems whatever she puts her mind to or what race she wants to go after, she can win. What did she run the other day, I think 22.03 for her first or second 200 in comp this yr. If she really does decide to run this race all out and not just use it as training, all the other women running the 200 should be on notice.
Thanks Rob for finally giving USA T&F a view on RU-vid. Cannot believe, sorry, I guess I can believe why USAT&F has not been a part of this century. After 46 years coaching in all levels of T&F I guess I've become a cynic.
Sydney is from another planet, everyone else is still in heavy training, so their times will be erratic till they peak for Nationals; although it seems many have gotten a late start and have not competed that much since 2023, and that worries me.
Truth is, Sydney is the fastest woman ever. She will beat any female sprinter in any event. We are truly watching the best ever female sprinter. That's what is important.
