what should I pay for a 300TD wagon? 4K 

"if you're not planning on keeping one of these things for life, then you're looking at the wrong car." That is one of the best pieces of buying advice that I've ever heard.

I paid $3k for my one-owner ‘84 last year and couldn’t be happier. Was it perfect? Nope, but it’s solid, rust-free, and has a great engine and a 95% interior. My forever car …

“The guy that talks too much!” The car guy! We all know one of them! Thanks Pierre!

I love my wagon. 1985 300TDT Euro version. I'm working on restoring it for myself, by myself. It will never be for sale until I'm dead and even then I believe one of my daughters will take it over. I'm changing things to suit my tastes a little and shudder, changing the color, but I want it to be the way I want it. I have touched and redone ever single system , part, metal work etc in the car and could tell you any part of it. I love the face that I can just get into it and work on it. No fancy computers, no mystery black boxes. Simply the best car I have ever owned.

I just bought an 87 300d for 4500.. no rust at all, under just under 200k, and mostly ready to daily. It's always going to be a gamble when you buy something used, but always trust your gut. If your gut says no, walk. Always walk. Sometimes you just know its a bad idea without knowing why.

I've been waiting for this video for the longest, Pierre, so this post will be long and I'll probably come back and edit it a couple of times. The first Mercedes-Benz I ever drove was a new '83 300TD, in the infamous manila envelope/German taxi beige. At the time my mom drove Cadillacs; I was home from college and she asked me to take her car to the dealer for service. The dealer was a Cadillac/M-B dealership and they let me take the TD out for a test drive while I waited on mom's Cadillac. The difference was night and day and convinced me that Mercedes-Benz, not Cadillac, had the right idea of what made a luxury car worth its purchase price. I currently daily drive a 2016 E350 wagon that I bought new as a leftover at the end of 2016. 55K miles as of today and It's been mechanically perfect save for a blower motor regulator replaced under warranty. My hobby car is a longhood Porsche 911T that I've owned for about a dozen years; a decent driver but unlikely ever to be restored to better than that. I'm now less than a decade out from retirement age and, who knows, maybe I live a decade after that? In any event I find myself thinking either try to make the '16 last the rest of my life (okay, you can stop laughing) or find a decent S123 or S124 wagon to make my rest-of-life car. Much more analog cars than the '16 and easier for me to maintain and repair, on a par with the old 911. I'll be back to edit and comment. You keep being you, Pierre, and I'll keep being a Patreon supporter.

TD wagons are true classics... Love them!

The cars that are in original survivor condition are the best. Original paint, upholstery, low(ish) miles, etc. Even if it needs some work (they all do), it’ll be a more worthwhile vehicle because once you sort through the maintenance list you will eventually reach a point where you can drive the car regularly and enjoy it instead of having to wrench on a worn out junker all the time.

Hello, Pierre ~ As always, it is a great pleasure to view your insights. 300TD uber alles.

Very good advice, Pierre.

Just picked up my 9th consecutive daily driver diesel... BEAUTIFUL black 81 300TD (TD specifies wagon) with ZERO rust and only 165k miles!!!!!

I'm a "car guy" but I own a 96 Ford 7.3 Powerstroke diesel, and a 95 E300D. Both of them I plan to keep forever. I like them more than most any modern production vehicle. I can't wait to have the E300D fully sorted, but my wallet and lack of time slow me down (owned it for 2 months at this point). Of course I'm probably not the standard car guy you are talking about, but the statement of being a car guy is a pretty large blanket statement. I will learn the ins and outs of this car and know how to do nearly everything myself as I fix everything that requires attention. I'm replacing the radiator now (end tank is leaking pressure but not fluid), then cleaning out the fuel system and checking injectors and timing (260k miles), then rebuilding the front end, then on to the rear end. So I doubt I'm the type of car guy you're talking about, but I do think cars are neat, and I do learn about other cars too, just not as much.

Another first thumbs up and comment my friend!👍

I'm more than happy to own an '85 Euro 300TDT petrol bluegreen with palomino MBTex. I've had over 25 cars in my life, I even have 2 W201 now, a 2.3, and a 2.3-16. Could sell those one day, but not the wagon... the best car I've had by far.

Im a Mercedes guy and am about to take a swing at one of these just like my grandpa had. This is super helpful. Who wants to help me find one?

I’ve always wanted one and fear I have missed the boat on them. now that I have money for one the prices are up which is expected :(

"over the last 2 to 3 years" video is 2 years old.... so I'm more than 5 years late to this particular party.... great

Im that car guy, and proud of it.

Thank you Pierre. I have had my '83 TD-T Manila Beige/Palomino for eight years and it is NFS. I get offers often driving around town and find cards on my windshield saying please call to sell your Mercedes. Too bad I can't post pictures here! An offer for "Portland" would have to be North of $20k to get my attention.

I've spotted a good looking black 300CD turbo. Sounds like it's good I prefer coupes! I've been a car spotter since I was tot, so I think the best to getting the best car for the money is to research, and develop those spotting skills...

Hello Pierre, I was wondering what Mercedes Benz would you recommend for someone interested in restoration? I'm aware some models can be very complex and expensive to restore so I'm looking for something with a little less hassle and good parts availability. Also a car that is relatively affordable at under $20k USD. If you read this thank you for your time and I love the channel

Love your videos. I AM a "Mercedes Guy." :-) Love the 123 and have had three including a TD. Owning one became less practical for me with a house in the mountains, but I do like the mildly more modern engineering and features of the 124 wagons, both the TD and TE and I miss the feeling of driving an older Benz. About the 123, you said "If you're looking for a 123 series model, good move. Just don't pay too much." Would you say the same about say, a '91 TE?

Sorry Pierre but I consider myself a car guy, since I was old enough to drive I've bought, fixed up, rodded, restored and have driven many makes and models of vehicles with a soft spot for wagons (family always had one one the farm growing up) but never had a Mercedes. When my 85 3oo TD came up for sale I looked at it to replace a more modern Dodge Magnum as my main vacation/traveling car and as a learning experience, I have more trust in a vehicle that I can get dirty on than one I have to take to a dealer just to check the trans fluid level. In the 5 years I have owned it I have sorted the climate control, cruise, suspension and various other maintenance items that were neglected under previous ownership all the while driving it from spring to fall with a 14,000 km road trip thrown in for fun 3 years ago in fact I'm readying it for a trip to Cape Breton and a cruise on the Cabot trail in the very near future. It's far from a perfect car but it is a great 90% original car " metal dings included" that I'm not afraid to take on long hard drives or get wet. If I wasn't a car guy I'd be driving something that I would throw away every five - ten years and not either of my two 80's om617 equipped Benz's.

This information has been said in other videos you have done. Looks like folks don't pay attention.👍

Good commentary. I like the TD, but do not think it would be a fit for us. But I still admire the car. I’m fortunate that my car found me, rather than my going out to find the car. At some point we may look for another, and that might be a Cabriolet or a Coupé…but that’s to be determined. Again, the hope there would be to find one that has been a family jewel that had been loved and cared for that we might be entrusted to do the same.

Would Love one but I have my 124 wagon and another project that needs so much work. I think working on it is essential, I wouldn't even know where to take a 123 for repair? UK prices are creeping but not as severe as the USA looks like.

There is one of these for sale near me, looks pretty original, paint is pretty normal not fresh, interior is all there. It's cool I am just not a wagon or a tan on tan person.

My boyfriend bought a '91 W124 300TE wagon for $1100 about a month ago. Needs a brake power booster (I started replacing that today) but starts right up and a few new fuses got most of the electronics working. I love the car already and I haven't even taken it on the open road....may just turn me into a Mercedes guy (currently a car guy).

What is your opinion about a rare 1987 W124 300TD? I recently added one of those to my very budget vintage Mercedes turbo diesel collection.

If you own a pre 1993 mercedes, you should think of yourself as custodian of the car, not the registered keeper/owner. 1993 is the cut off point in the UK for proper mercedes as it was the year the w202 relpaced the w201, and the w124 facelifted version was introduced with different engines and cheap steel being used for body parts. They simply dont hold up as well as the prefacelift w124. I agree with comment that saloons should not be discounted, theyre just as good, why the obession with wagons/estate.

Would you be able to review s124 300TD too?

Pierre - (or others) I'm a fan of the 300TD wagon. I have a w210 wagon but its a gas V-6, not diesel. Never seen a TD w210 wagon in fact. Were none EVER imported to USA markets ? Seems odd cause earlier series wagons seem to be split evenly Diesel / Gas. Thanks for any insight - David

If the diesel pump is modified to increase fuel flow will this safely increase hp. The purpose only for passing and entering highway with more safety, so the car would be used normally. I don't have a w123 or w126 but some day I would love to own one.

I love these cars (300TD), Find your own local MB mechanic (one who like Pierre knows these cars) _before_ you find the car and have them inspect the car (at your cost) before you close the deal. Even a great deal will likely have some needed repairs - don't let that scare you but know as much as you can up front.

@Mercedes Classics with Pierre Hedary I've always wondered what engine should I choose between the 2,4 diesel and the 3,0 (diesel); on the net, there's plenty of contrasting opinions and honestly, I'm really tired, 'cause there's the guy who says "my 240d can take all the hills even with the a/c on and a trailer behind" (is it possible?) and the other one who says "I had to kick my friends out because the car wouldn't have made it"... so I'd really like to read or listen to your opinion

I’m a Mercedes Guy;)

I have a 1984 300TD I am wanting to sell now. It has a little over 301,000 miles on it. Trying to find a current market value for it.

Have a 300td 87 pay 6k one month ago (chile)

Is the W123 coupe market going up too?

W124 diesel wagon is the way to go a 300td

it's pure hype about the wagons. here in Europe too. Even prices for W124 wagons are going nuts. Just buy a sedan for a third of the price. In a couple of years, they'll go through the roof as well.

Someone is selling an 88 TE with 255k for 4K. Interior and exterior seem to be in decent shape I have not inspected it personally yet. Is it worth it?

To own a w123 td or w124 td is a handful ... meaning you have to Maintain it yourself....+ repairs......certain parts Can be hard to find or high priced Today mercedes Honolulu tried To sell me a light control modul # 126 542 0132 for $489.🙂 Story short an 1987 300td in serious Shape, clean with ac and 150000miles $25 to $30000. Showroom condition $40000 and plus. W123 take rust easy Not the case with 87 300td garage kept Never to forget that every single part of the car is 35 too Forget dealership( they don't touch them) And many will rip you off Do it yourself for life or let it go.

So this might be a really stupid question, but, I personally have never seen a 300d or td with a manual transmission and I really don't enjoy driving automatics all that much (mainly for fuel economy reasons) but I know 240ds have manuals. So are there 240 wagons, or maybe a 300 wagon with a manual? If someone could maybe fill me in that'd be much appreciated. Love the channel 💚

Just buy my 350sd the best and rarest diesel mercedes. Built !

I semi-disagree. If the "car guy" works (genuinely services) on his own cars, he's legit in my opinion.

You have to pay as much as possible so you can brag about it! I’m kidding of course.

I cannot believe that you are thinking it is possible to buy a 1985 or older 300 TD that does not need to be sorted out. They ALL need to be sorted out at this age. You are just kidding yourself if you think you can buy one of these cars and it will not need to $10,000 in parts in the next 10,000 miles. These cars are just OLD. They need all kinds of work. Nobody is selling 300 TD's with new engines, transmissions, and A/C compressors for $15k. Pierre, you are making a mistake thinking that some car that leaves your shop is "sorted" because it working when it left. It is sorted until the next thing goes wrong in 3000 miles. That is okay if you are prepared for it, but you leave the impression that all you need to do is fix the things that are wrong TODAY and live happily ever after. NOOOOOoooooo, there is plenty of blood, sweat, and tears until everything has been gone through. It is not how little can you get away with, but how much can you do to ensure a reliable car.

I’m looking to buy this 500sec with 41k miles on it. It’s priced at 11,500. Do you think it’s worth it? I’ll share a link in your Instagram dm…kindly review it