I think rape is much worse than drug smuggling, and they are only given 2 years of prisson? That's absurd. I feel bad for this man. I don't think drug smugglers can't really be compared with serial killers.
And the law is the law. Doesn't matter who breaks it. Everyone needs to be treated equally. Even if someone is intellectually disabled or retarded. I'm also a big supporter of the death penalty. It is by far the best way to get rid of criminals. It should be used much more often and for more crimes.
@@davey2487 'laws' can change. In some countries in the 1960s, black people were not permitted to enter the front entrance of a store. In other countries homosexuality was a crime. Which indicated that 'laws' aren't always morally acceptable, and often corrected over time. What you have is an outdated, awful, narcissistic attitude. Yes, drugs are a huge problem, but people choose whether to take drugs. People dont choose to be raped. Your comments are vile.
@Gia Gia Death sentence should be for everyone involved: the people who grow/make it, the smugglers, the dealers and the people who buy it. Just get rid of the entire chain.
@@friedrice0922 but the actual druglord isn't scared, cause as long as he doesn't show his face he won't get arrested. Plus in his eyes the mule is replaceable.
I am a Singapore citizen. I believe people (especially foreigners who do not live in Singapore) do not know the facts, or at least a newspaper report of the facts, as I believe the facts of this drug trafficking case is not reported by any newspaper in your own country. (Of course, I must admit that I also get to learn about the case from the report made by our national newspaper, The Straits Times, of which I have quoted the following from.) This drug trafficker Nagaenthran K Dharmalingam was arrested in 2009 (I stress: not 2019) at the age of 21 (I stress: not below 18 whom we regard as minor) with a bundle of heroin strapped to his thigh (I stress: the drug was NOT found in his luggage or vehicle or other belongings away from his body). He was sentenced to death by our High Court in 2010 after being convicted of trafficking 42.72g of heroin. Our relevant law, the Misuse of Drugs Act, provides for the death penalty if the amount of heroin imported is more than 15g. Our Court of Appeal dismissed the appeal against his conviction and sentence in July 2011. His execution was put on hold as our Government was then carrying out a review of the mandatory death penalty. In 2013, the law was changed to give judges the discretion to impose life terms and caning for drug couriers, instead of death, if specific conditions are met. Nagaenthran applied on 24 February 2015, to be re-sentenced under the new regime. One of the issues considered was whether his mental responsibility was substantially impaired at the time of his offence. After considering the facts and expert evidence from FOUR psychiatry and psychology experts, our High Court held that Nagaenthran knew what he was doing, and upheld the death sentence in 2017. The court noted that he was continuously altering his account of his education qualifications, ostensibly to reflect lower educational qualifications each time he was interviewed. In 2019, the Court of Appeal said it was satisfied that Nagaenthran clearly understood the nature of his acts. It noted that he knew it was unlawful for him to be transporting drugs and he tried to conceal the bundle by strapping it to his left thigh and wearing a large pair of trousers over it. This was the working of a criminal mind, weighing the risks and countervailing benefits associated with the criminal conduct in question, the court added. Nagaenthran was granted the stay of his execution, on last week Tuesday, by a three-judge Court of Appeal that was urgently convened to hear his challenge against his death sentence. The execution of this Malaysian drug trafficker, Nagaenthran K. Dharmalingam, was subsequently stayed after he tested positive for Covid-19. Again, this Nagaenthran is a Malaysian and he was aged 21 when he was caught for drug trafficking. Therefore, if anyone still insists that he is a intellectually disabled person, we must take note that, among many other material particulars, the following non crime related points: 1. He was 21 - an adult and not a minor; AND 2. He has applied for and possessed and used an international passport to travel from his country to go to a cross border destination on his own; AND 3. He knows how to clear the immigration checkpoint at his country on his own; AND 4. He knows how to attempt to clear the Singapore immigration checkpoint on his own; AND 5. He was fully aware that a bundle of something was strapped to his thigh at the material time, AND 6. He did not carry any intention at all to declare the item that was oddly strapped to his thigh when he was clearing the immigration checkpoint in Singapore. In this respect, to argue that he is incapable to understand his acts at all is too far stretching. Finally, the intention of my writing here is to just share the facts, I do not intend to debate with anyone as to whether should the death penalty be abolished in my country or globally.
Thanks for giving such a full account of what happened. Most people only read the headline or the summary. They do not read the whole article written in the newspapers. And they do not follow the case over time.
True as it may be, that still does not justify taking away someone's life over drugs. A lengthy prison sentence should suffice. It's wrong if it is done for historical reasons just like it is wrong to execute someone over stupid religious reasons.
@@cloj4754 Oh, I'm in no way trying to justify the death penalty for possession of marijuana. There were lots of comments seemingly confused at why the death penalty was even applicable for drug possession. I just wanted to give some context. It's like how attempting suicide and homosexuality were harshly punished in Christian societies up until relatively recently.
Why were comments being deleted on this thread? There were a lot of comments including my own on this thread that's why this became a top comment, but everything is deleted but 2 left.
The reason why the court found him guilty even if he is "intellectually" disabled: 1. He knew that it is illegal to smuggle the drugs 2. He knew the consequences that smuggling drugs into singapore will get him a death sentence 3. He admitted to the charges levied against him
The thing about intellectually disabled people is you can tell them, "yeah, just confess to all of this and everything will be okay." And they will believe you and they will do it to make you happy. Because they do not necessarily grasp the consequences of their actions. Hence why we classify them as intellectually disabled, and why confessions from intellectually disabled people are not generally given the same credence as they would otherwise.
@@mikicerise6250 He also actively tried to hide evidence and evade the police. The High Court noted that the DSM-V stated that "IQ test scores are approximations of conceptual functioning but may be insufficient to assess reasoning in real life situations and mastery of practical tasks". The evidence considered included the testimony of Nagaenthran's own psychiatric expert, who agreed that he was not suffering from any intellectual disability. This is nothing more than a stunt to evade the death penalty.
@@mikicerise6250 yea but thats only relevant if he is acting as a drug mule, which isnt evident considering he already provided statements and evidence (it wouldnt make sense that of all the details he gave he hid the coercer's details to self incriminate)
It was a good video but I think the video should include actual reports from the news on the reasons why death penalty was given despite the so-called intellectual disability. Primarily because the judge has deemed that the man knows what he is doing and he is aware of what he is doing by deliberately avoiding the detection process. He eas aware that his actions were illegal. That's why the intellectual disability part was overrode. Hopefully including this portion will make the video more objective and wholesome prior to gathering the people's opinions. And apparently many might not have read the news report in its entirety.
agree, will help to give some context. Overall very diverse view from different generations and background, gender wise as well! the people are also able to articulate themselves well, keep it up!
Someone who is mentally disabled can still learn how to try to hide things. They will be much easier to coerce into actions and have less understanding of consequences.
Small children lie, sneak, and hide to avoid getting in trouble too, that doesn't mean that they fully understand or are responsible for their actions in the same way as an adult
I remember arriving in Singapore and it was printed in red in HUGE letters in the immigration card: "Death sentence mandatory to Drug traffickers" and as I was arriving from Brazil, they of course put me into deep x-ray scanning right away...
I wish the very best for the AsianBoss team. After you went through the economic/employment crisis a while back, I was so pleased to see the channel burst back into life. Asian Boss Team, Please rest. Pushing yourselves to the limit won’t make your journalism better; Please always sleep well, recharge with healthy food, please don’t take any unnecessary risks if you can avoid them. Chase good journalism, chase purpose, chase happiness. Good luck!!
@@Mimi-ip6vv Video editor can edit one of two video per day. While the video shooting is done by field contributor. Technically as long as the contribution video is matching their agenda Asianboss will publish it.
"In Singapore, before you land, the air hostess or the steward will announce that there are very heavy penalties if you are find with more than a stated number of grams of certain prohibited drugs, and if you still come in with a few kilos of them, which will destroy hundreds, thousands of families, one death is too kind. Because you are killing that family every day for years, and years, and years when the daughter or the son is an addict." from what LKY said during his interview.
Yup thats why drug dealers and etc have high jail sentences in America.. but honestly i think they deserve more because they literally kill not just 1 life but their whole family Edit: 2 people from my group of acquaintances died this year from overdose. One, was 27, struggles with addiction for about 11 years. He went to rehab multiple times and couldn't deal with the depression. Overdosed and killed himself. The other struggled with addiction for over 20 years... died of overdose. Both families can't move on. And blame themselves for not watching.. Drug dealers ruin lives. Idc if you need money. Work like a normal human being. Trying to make money by harming others is disgusting. Same fu**ed up mentality as a rapist
I've lived here for two years, flown in and out of the country many times and never heard the announcement you are talking about. Could be that I wasn't paying attention to it. The information isn't hard to find though. It's common knowledge here that drug offences are punished severely. I don't think this guy wasn't caught with "a few kilos" . It was more like an ounce if I remember correctly. Gotta know and respect the laws where you are regardless. I get that he has a low IQ but unless someone planted the drugs on him, it wasn't so low that he went through the whole process of attempting to smuggle it in.
I flew on Singapore Airlines. My airplane ticket said, "Death penalty to drug traffickers" on it. I was surprised but I didn't have any drugs so I was not worried. This was many years ago. That is too bad about this intellectually disabled man though. I don't know if he could understand what he was doing.
When I went to Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore, I heard a message on the plane upon arriving warning me that trafficking drugs was worth the death penalty there. I wasn't scared of my own action because I know I have zero interest in drugs, but I was scared of someone planting some into my belongings and getting me in trouble. ^^
@@Raphanne Thanks for sharing and yes I would never be scared since I don’t do or deal drugs, but I am scared of others putting something into my belongings and framing me. That would be very scary. Also, don’t ever carry things for anyone if you don’t know what the contents are. They can be drugs which can cause a lot of trouble or even death for us.
One needs to realise that there is a clear distinction between the question of whether this guy should be warranted the death penalty versus the question of whether the death penalty as a punishment is warranted. The former should be focused on the circumstances of the case and the appropriate sentencing based on the law while the latter is a whole other debate altogether on human rights etc. By lumping the two together, the question just becomes a loaded one. This is something I feel the interviewer should have made clear. Imo, looking at just this case specifically without the added question of whether death penalty should even be a form of punishment, as further news have revealed the guy is mentally capable of making his decisions and that his thinking ability was not incapacitated by his supposed mental age, hence going by Singapore's laws, yes I think the sentencing is appropriate. Is it unfortunate? Perhaps, after all people are bounded by circumstances sometimes. But it is appropriate with regards to the law.
I lost my uncle to drugs. My grandmother didn't get to see her son on her deathbed. My mom didn't have her older brother for most part of her life. My uncle was in prison for most of my life. When he was finally released, he died. The last thing he said to me was "the little girl has grown up to be a beautiful woman". I have only few memories of him. One was when he was high on drugs and I was a kid then. I don't need to go to school to know that drugs is bad when everything that's bad played out in front of me as a kid. So, if you think drugs don't destroy a family, think again. I hate drugs. I hate the people who sold the drugs. I hate the people who smuggled in those drugs.
@@gargargargar My story is just one of the many stories around the world of families destroyed by drugs. I agree that we should go by facts. So here are the facts: "Nagaenthran had sought to challenge his execution, contending that he had the mental age of a person below 18 years old." "The alleged mental age was based on the opinion of his lawyer, Mr M. Ravi, who has no medical expertise and has met the prisoner only once, on Nov 2, for 26 minutes, the judge noted." "After considering the facts and expert evidence from four psychiatric and psychological experts, the High Court held that Nagaenthran knew what he was doing, and upheld the death sentence in 2017." "The experts, including one called by the defence, said Nagaenthran was not intellectually disabled." The experts including the one called by the defence said he's not intellectually disabled. And that's the fact. Some examples of people who have been acquited: Ilechukwu Uchechukwu Chukwudi - A psychiatrist with the Institute of Mental Health found that Ilechukwu's PTSD was a result of childhood trauma he experienced in his hometown in Wukari, Nigeria. The Court of Appeal then ordered a review of the case in light of the fresh evidence, given by the psychiatrist who was a prosecution witness. Mangalagiri Dhruva Kumar: The only evidence that he supplied the drugs to Shanti was Shanti's testimony, and she was unable to recall the various events of the purported transactions well. Pragas Krissamy: the court found that the prosecution had failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr Pragas had "a clear, grounded and targeted suspicion" that he was actually carrying drugs. Mohammad Azli Mohammad Salleh: On the evidence, the most that can be said is that he believed that Roszaidi was going to collect and transport methamphetamine on the night of the offence. The remaining evidence demonstrates, at best, only that Azli knew of Roszaidi’s involvement in drug trafficking in general, as opposed to his having known of and agreed to assist Roszaidi in trafficking in (heroin) at the material time of the offence. So to say that our law is not fair, and some thinking there's some conspiracy to this, above are some examples where our court have acquited those who were about to go into the gallows. All they need is substantial evidence, which in this case, there's none. Yet.
@@gargargargar what she has outlined are the facts and the consequences her family had to deal with as a result of drugs. Hers is not the only story. Many many other families are affected in the same way and many others potentially would have been too if SG does not have such a strict stance against drug smuggling.
The High Court had specifically considered whether he met the diagnostic criteria for intellectual disability under the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-V). The High Court noted that the DSM-V stated that "IQ test scores are approximations of conceptual functioning but may be insufficient to assess reasoning in real life situations and mastery of practical tasks". The evidence considered included the testimony of Nagaenthran's own psychiatric expert, who agreed that he was not suffering from any intellectual disability. By conflating low IQ with intellectual disability, Asian Boss appears to be attempting to shape opinion based on their moral codes by backing the defense's assertions rather than just reporting news. Even if it is a question of whether or not people should be executed for drug related offenses, I'm afraid Asian Boss will find no traction. It is simply not a hot button issue for the Singaporean people. Otherwise, it would have been picked up by the Opposition parties by now or NGOs like Amnesty International (who have been campaigning for decades) would have seen more success.
People below certain IQ levels are often unable to communicate properly or even have comprehension of their actions or potential consequences. I'm not commenting on this particular individual as I don't know what tests they used to reach their conclusions, just thought I'd note that IQ of a certain level is definitely a valid reason for lack of malicious intent ( not commenting on whether certain courts view that as relevant when considering sentencing ).
This is also politically motivated too, He’s a foreigner and brown so exerting stronger disproportionate punishments gives a more favourable reputation to the local populace that the government is successful. What were the reasons given against a life sentence?
@@Snoop_Dugg Also placed into consideration. The source is from NDTV (Indian website) article titled "Indian-Origin Man On Death Row Couldn't Prove Disability: Singapore Envoy". I cannot post links here without it being deleted. Thanks to RU-vid's Artificial "Intelligence". The death sentence is mandatory for drug offenses of a certain weight. so I don't quite understand what "disproportionate" means in this context. " The evidence considered included the testimony of Nagaenthran's own psychiatric expert, who agreed that he was not suffering from any intellectual disability."
People act like the law isn't something man made and subject to change because they can be flawed... Something being a law doesn't make it unquestionable. Only something that has a reasonable answer to all possible questions is.
Yes that's how it is in Singapore. It's not easy to oust the ruling party from power and debate is not really allowed. Though with the internet and now government mandate for people to be creative and compete with Silicon Valley, there is more questioning.
Break the law and face the consequences. Our laws on drugs are well known and non-negotiable. At the end of the day, that dude is not even low IQ, he was well aware of what he was doing. Too bad for him and lucky for us, he got caught.
@@1ewi5 You're essentially touting the right of those with power to trample those without. When we're brought into this world as babies do we sign an agreement to abide by all rules and laws of the government that lays claim to the region we happened to be born in or do they send their agents to use force to commit violence and imprison those who don't obey? It's important we think about these things even though some realities are difficult to acknowledge.
This might sound unfair but Singapore's law needs to be very firm on this. The law does not discriminate, drug cartels could exploit intellectually disabled people if this man gets an exception.
@@chrissatryfona7843 because the exploiters have sophisticated crime networks that extend its operations all around the world. If they were that easily caught, they would have been prosecuted and punished under the full weight of the law. Hence, the exploited is punished to discourage the exploiters from supplying drugs in Singapore.
If the law is lenient on intellectual disabled people and lets him off, it gives a signal to the syndicate that it's ok and they can let these people to bring drugs into Singapore.
Precisely. That, I feel, is what the west is so confused about. People are always on and on about labeling the government as bad, while the government becomes a pushover for their laws because of the ambiguity of making their citizens understand the law with the consequences of breaking it versus the concept of mercy. There's a fine line between chaos and virtue. Unfortunately so many people tread on one side while thinking they're on the other side.
@@olympusdevil3013 Western society is built through slavery, colonialism, imperialism, genocides and modern exploitation of developing countries. They hold no moral high ground to anything.
"was aware of his actions". That's the crux of the sentencing. He bet his life on his deed and lost. The country's law against drug trafficking is well-known.
To be honest, I still think the death penality is a little too harsh. SKT took away 8 lives in a car accident, but many people (mainly the Chinese) are against her sentences! And here, most people who supports the penality of the Indian man are ethnic Chinese! I don't know if u can call this double standard! The thing is that Chinese believes their values are superior and often neglects the feelings of minorities! I mean u have the audacity to claim that there's racism against u people in the West when u are the minorities, but when u guys are the majority, u ignores the voices of minorities!
7:54 Drugs don't just affect the user, they affect the user's family and the generations to come. With a country that only has its people as its natural resource, protecting the people from the effects of drugs by imposing the death penalty seems to be a rational decision.
@Unortodossa then the drug smuggler didn’t either, drugs cause so much harm to people’s lifes and it has been shown in history, nations are held back decades and families are torn apart because of it. Human rights yes, but 1 singular human to a big group of humans, and that one human has the capability to harm the group AND DOES SO, it’s human rights for the rest of the people.
@Tiziano society has the right to decide that they want to live in a drug-free society. even with the death penalty people are still flocking in with kilograms of hard drugs - because the returns are so high. What do you think will happen if the measures are relaxed??🙂 I had a friend who worked in a British ER/A&E, the number of young people he had to save from overdoses and terrible addiction wrecked havoc on his mental health, and he talks about how he wishes the govt would take a firmer stance against drug traffickers. You’re killing their futures and their families’ futures by condoning drugs. One life in exchange for hundreds of families is too kind.
@Tiziano If life is really sacred, you would sacrifice the life of a terrible person that destroys the lives of many people, especially drug traffickers and human traffickers.
In all honesty, if I’m a drug trafficker and I know that Singapore is giving a more lenient sentence to this man who is intellectually disabled I will make more people who are intellectually disabled to be drug mules to Singapore. Because they won’t be put to death here. This is more than just one man. This is about setting an example and a deterrence. When you start to make exceptions, there will be people who try to take advantage of the loopholes.
wtf are you talking about??? what does it matter to trafficker if their mules are dead, in prison or just instutionalised - naturally they only care that they don't get cought with their drugs. there's zero connection between killing this man and more/less mules being mentally disabled or more/less mentally disbled people becoming mules. think a little before trying to justify a killing of a mentally disabled person with plain nonsense
@@potmki6601 most of these mules come from more improvised families in poorer countries. If you’re intellectually disabled you are usually not the breadwinner of the family and is more likely a financial burden. So if a drug trafficker approached your family and say, “hey let’s make use of your intellectually disabled family member to traffic drugs to Singapore. We’ll pay you lots of money. if it’s successful, your family get the money. If it was foiled, no worries Singapore won’t execute them as they’re intellectually disabled. Most likely they’ll stay in Singapore’s prisons for life where they have food and lodging taken care for them by the state for the rest of their life. And they won’t be a burden on your family. Singapore also have a very safe prison system where detainees will never be mistreated. A total Win-win. “ There are people out there who have sold their daughters to prostitution. I’m sure that there are also people out there who wont mind selling off their family members to be drug mules. If anything, them being intellectually disabled just makes it easier.
@@sayurik no family with sane mind would send their family to be a mule cause they if found out will be jailed for being accessory ! complete bafoonery dream by you ! calm down
I think more people are angry because of the variations in punishment depending on the crime such as sexual assault/rape/murder. To be honest we’ve seen cases of those crimes where the persecuted get away more leniently depending on social status etc. and honestly there are probably a lot more drug abusers within the richer crowds it’s just that they don’t get caught. The main issue is that there are no rehabilitation efforts for drug abusers which gives the idea that there is no help available for people with serious addictions
You're conflating drug abusers and drug traffickers. The rest of your comment is a bunch of hearsay. Does not lend any relevance to the point you are trying to put across.
I suggest reading up on actual news reports before forming your views. The collected clips didn’t offer a complete background to the case - e.g. why’s the guy in sg, what the guy said when he was arrested vs in court, how cooperative was he in the investigations, and what’s the basis of the death penalty, and is he truly mentally disabled? The interviewees and commenters seem to be responding without fully understanding the case. Edit: I’d like to respectfully suggest that in future interviews, the interviewer gives the interviewees a complete background if they’re lacking knowledge of it? This kinda hit hard because it’s my country and it pained me to see people rambling on without the full context and snippets of the case getting posted for the whole world to see. I’ve always been a fan of AsianBoss. But now I’m not sure if other videos I’ve watched are credible and if the interviewees accurately presented the various countries’ societal issues.
I agree... I've alwys enjoyed Asian Boss's contents, but I found this video particularly difficult to watch. It was too heavily skewed towards one side for my liking. Like whn exactly was this street interview done? Dun the interviewees evn read the news? At 1:10~1:15, I was very surprised the interviewees were asked to give a background of the case. Shouldn't the reporter/interviewer be providin them with the correct info in the first place? Seemed to me the reporter/interviewer didn't know much about it either prior... 🤨
Lol, so now you know how biased is West journalism is even though it was titled "ASIAN". This is how west bias journalism do their job. Wait until it hit someplace familiar and you will know it is very bias.
People seem to be realizing this now, but this is what many people in Korea (and from what I've heard, to a lesser extent Japan) have been criticizing about Asian Boss for a very, very long time. At best they do not show the whole picture or offer the whole range of information, at worst they completely mistranslate the original language in the subtitles and/or edit the statements of interviewees so much that the interviewees themselves have commented on the videos calling them out. Every time this was pointed out, fans of Asian Boss (who were mainly from Southeast Asia in my experience) have defended the channel, but I'm glad that at least now people are realizing that these concerns are actually real. I understand that the role this channel plays can be an important niche in journalism, but I have no pity for them after all that's happened.
Referring to what some of the interviewees say about the necessity of death penalty to keep the society safe - I’m from Malaysia (neighboring country to Singapore which shares similar historical background of the drug war and harsh laws against drugs), and I think Singapore is safe not because of the harsh (death) sentencing, but because of the strict law enforcement. When I cross border into Singapore, I have to remind myself not to jaywalk or litter, because even though these things seem so minor that I could get away with them everyday in my country, in Singapore there could be law enforcement officers anywhere to catch me breaking the rules. In Malaysia, we have similar laws, including mandatory death penalty for certain crimes, but our crime rate is much higher compared to Singapore. Many researches from other countries have shown that death penalty don’t help to deter or reduce crimes. And the biggest issue with the law is the “mandatory” death sentence - you’re either acquitted, or you’re sentenced to death. That seems super problematic to me, no matter what crime it is, because the justice system is imperfect. There are bound to be innocent ppl who fall victim to this, and they’re most likely ppl who don’t have the resources to get the best legal representation. Even those who have actually committed the crime, who are actually caught and sentenced under the law, they’re are often ppl from the low socioeconomic class being used as mules and traffickers, not the mastermind or rich drug lord behind. Seeing that drug problem is still rampant today (in Malaysia at least) while such laws have been in effect since many decades ago, it’s evidence that they don’t work (to deter crime) and we need to find new ways to solve the social problem. Unfortunately, I don’t think the ppl of Malaysia or Singapore are ready to take away death penalty anytime soon. Our previous govt tried to propose stripping off the mandatory death penalty, and it got so much opposition before any productive discussion can happen. We need much more education to progress as a society.
Thank you for pointing this out. This is not the first video I’ve seen from Singapore where lots of people appear pretty ignorant or uneducated on things that are extreme in the west. I’m wondering if it’s fear of the regime or if it’s face culture or just laziness. Harsh punishment has not shown to reduce crime, the death penalty is inhumane and horrific. The death penalty itself is a crime as it violates the right to life. Scripted attitudes here sounds like North Koreans or fanatical right wing people in the US or other nutcase societies honestly. In my country, Sweden, the death penalty was abolished 100 years ago, last execution happened 110 years ago. It’s a very safe country with murder rates constantly going down, it’s encouraged to report domestic and sexual violence, children are educated about their rights and body autonomy, there are ongoing discussions about how to improve society but it’s also a trust base society where people take care and trust each other. The military is prohibited to act against the people, it protects the country and protects the people. A stable economy striving to improve for the people is the way to keep society safe. Our police are not always the sharpest in the box but we criticise them to. And they certainly don’t come at us like in Singapore. I’ve heard and seen wonderful things about Singapore but the Singaporean surveillance and police methods sounds awful honestly. The regime is not democratic and it’s quite evident Singaporeans aren’t used to a democratic society. I don’t know much about Malaysia I’m afraid which is my bad. I hope things change for the better for your countries.
@@AnnaKaunitz i find it pretty weird that you keep comparing singapore with the west... it is as if you are saying that the west is correct or safer which is definitely not the case... because the west are much more lenient or as you call it 'freedom' it sparks much larger issues and result it normalisation of so many wrong ideas and virtues. racism, lack of accountability, violence are just a few issues that you so called 'freedom' has brought about. plus if you have not done anything wrong the law would not affect you at all. in the west yall prioritise self while in singapore and many eastern countries we priorities collective interest. yes it may be harsher but it is protecting the society. lastly i want to add that yes sweden is safe compared to the west but looking at stats, singapore is doing better in safety, whether its assault, murder and crime rates in general
i think that non singaporeans/people who dont live in singapore should read the actual article on this issue on straitstime, cna, etc. before speaking about this issue. also, dont compare your country to singapore. dont comment about other countries. freedom is not that restricted here in sg.(although it is also not widely given) but i believe that it is what makes our country a safe and orderly country. please dont use your country's laws in singapore's context or in this context for that matter. thank you. he is not mentally ill/incapable of making decisions. if he were, then i believe that leniency wouldve been given. also, many people think that law here is fixed for every case. no. all convictions are based on case by case basis.
@@williamhenning4700 i suggest you read the full article to see if this death penalty was justified. :) laws in singapore are made strict so as to keep society orderly. in many countries abroad, people are afraid of walking alone in streets at night and worried of their own skin colour. you dont really see that in singapore as the laws make our country pretty safe. no country has 0% crime rates. just very low crime rates :)
@@bluerainbows9392 Right? I find it laughable when Americans especially try to tell us what to do with our laws. Are they oblivious to what's happening to their own country?
I haven’t seen anyone documenting it here, so I’ll write it. Singapore has no natural resources, they rely on foreign investments and ex-pats to use as a base in SEA amongst relatively corrupt and unsafe neighbors. They have to be strict and that’s how they survive as a nation. They have since become a successful nation in Asia because of these strict rules and having one of the cleanest government in the world. That’s why foreigner’s family feel safe to come here If anyone can come up with a better idea for Singapore, I guess that can be changed.
And oh ya... recently Singapore came in first for having the highest IQ score in the world!!! Therefore the other natural resource that Singapore has, would be the Healthy Brains of the people! And this is very vital and important to take care of! Drugs will only destroy that. So please always say NO to drugs. We Sinagporeans have made our way up here with hardships, hardwork,disciplines, integrity and dignity and great leadership of our government. Do not let that destroyed by some irresponsible, self-centered morons like those drug dealers ....even if you think you are the next Pablo Escobar, we 'Bo Layan' you! ( We don't give a damn. Don't try it here..You will face the death penalty.)
Lol, unsafe neighbours? Who do you think you are? Your neighbours don't determine your small island safety index except yourselve! Most of Singaporean who travel to neighbour countries loves to make problem like disobey traffic, littering, pissing on the roadside, shop lifting, fighting, etc. Without CCTV, most of Singaporean behave exactly like people from China.
I love the Singaporean accent! I worked for one year with a group of people from Singapore and now I feel this weird affinity with it. I just love hearing it
@@musenw8834 You´re right, of course, but that tells you how much I love their accent. They could be saying the most horrible stuff on the planet and my brain would just think "Man, their accent is great!"
@@samuraijosh1595 hmm. I don't think people made fun of our accent. I believe you are refering to Singlish which is a language system than accent. People do laugh at our Singlish and that's reasonable since most would be amused by how interestingly it works.
Out of curiosity, have Asian countries modified their laws to be more in line with China's? It seems like it seeks to expand its norms and customs to neighboring countries in order to be viewed as "Asia's leader" so to speak.
@@williamhenning4700 No as far as I know, Asian countries have always had extreme punishments to these sorts of crimes. It depends on the culture as well, because they are very homogeneous in nature and conformist. People don’t tend to speak out much.
@@williamhenning4700 I don’t think China has imposed their norms, they don’t meddle in other country internal problems, it’s more like the culture in Asia which generally similar, they think and behave as a society rather than as an individual. Drugs destroy not only the user but the whole family, the effect can last for generations. When many families are being destroyed, the society could collapse, also maybe Asian countries learned what happened to China during opium war, it was catastrophe.
@@greentea8852 Fair enough. I think you're right when you suggest Eastern cultures generally focus more on the collective as opposed to the individual which I think explains many of the differences between Eastern and Western culture. Out of curiosity, what is the relationship between many nations that border or are somewhat close to China? I have become fascinated with the subject in recent times as China begins to test its muscles in the 21rst century.
@@williamhenning4700 there‘s always conflict between Asian countries in regards to border and territory not exclusively with China for many years but hardly could produce a war. Few years ago Indonesia destroyed many illegal fishing boats from Philliphines, Malaysia, China and Thailand. The illegal fishing has been going on for decades.
if you actually smoked a joint you would be like... wow I was wrong, this just makes me more creative and empathetic. why would you kill someone for this?
@@jeffbriggs1987 Excuses excuses excuses. If you entertain excuses, then you might as well not have that law. The country will go down the drain in no time and Singapore will lose her reputation of being a safe country. You want to enjoy drugs, go ahead and do it elsewhere. Your life, that country's problem. Just don't bring it here.
@@jeffbriggs1987 What is there to explain? You can be happy living in your slum over someone living in a mansion. Your choice your life. I would take Singapore anytime because my kids will be safe from ever tempted to take drugs. Even though we have death penalty for drug traffickers, we still have many drug addicts in Singapore who have no future, going in and out of rehab with low rate of addicts getting permanently rehabilitated. Many of these addicts will do illegal stuff so as to feed their addiction.
@@jeffbriggs1987 I have seen many addicts and their lives are wasted. I don't comment on countries I visited because I can only see so little. Just because you come to Singapore a few times and you call us slaves. That is so lame. Most of us are happy with what we have and many do not want a tradeoff for violence, guns, racism and especially drugs.
The thing that bugs me is, why do people think a life sentence (without parole) is a lesser sentence than death sentence? For me, if I am ever convicted of a felony, I know for sure I would rather get electrocuted and be done with it than suffer the next 30-40 years behind bars. Most average Singaporeans are already struggling to find meaning in life OUTSIDE of jail, but perhaps some redeeming factors that could keep life fulfilling is family/friends, travelling abroad on vacations, material well-being etc. Strip away all of these and you still have to forcefully live on for the next 30 years without anything to look forward tomorrow. Sounds like a way harsher sentence than death.
stupid many people being excellent obedient in jails have got parole before their life sentences thats why death penalty should be abolished ! especially for shitty weak crimes like this
In Singapore, the prison system is not as awful as, say, the US prison system. Inmates are allowed to learn skills so they can assimilate into society when released, and there are opportunities to play chess or basketball. I would rather life sentence without parole, as Singaporean inmates are still allowed to leave the prison compound during the daytime for work experience.
I personally think that death penalty should not be applied to a mentally handicapped person but it should be seen as deterrence for drug syndicates to Not take advantage of mentally challenged people to start smuggling drugs into Singapore, one of the world busiest transit points. I dont really want Singapore to become like many western countries today where you probably cant even go for a walk at 12am at night without bumping into a desperate addict or unsavory characters. In sg you can walk at night as a kid or woman without fear at 12am. I think we should not underestimate the social impacts of drugs that automatically leads to far worse syndicates and crimes if Singapore opens its floodgates to the drug triangle of southeast asia. Every country live with different circumstances especially so for a tiny city like singapore. This incident is very unfortunate
Pardon me for my opinion. If a mentally ill offender is able to discern right from wrong, he should not escape his fullest punishment, which applies to Nagaenthran since he is able to know right from wrong. Singapore also know they should not execute the mentally ill for drug trafficking, but only those who are substantially and genuinely impaired would not hang. There is a Malaysian named Dinesh Pillai Reja Retnam who is sentenced to hang in 2009 for importing heroin, but after the changes to the law in 2012, he escaped and got life in prison due to him having severe depression and serious brain damage. This is more serious than Nagaenthran in evaluation and comparison, hence for people like Dinesh, they of course do not deserve it. But for Nagaenthran, he still can discern right from wrong despite his low IQ and hence he is not seriously mentally ill and thus need to face the original death penalty
I understand your point, but he was in fact proven not be mentally handicapped rather, Low iq those are two different things and cannot be compared. Asianboss is using a click bait title that is proven by his psychiatrist and High Court to be false. His lawyer who does not specialise in mental illness gave that presumption that is false.
It has been proven by this criminal himself, science, psychologist and experts that he is not mentally disabled. In fact he lied over and iver each time he was aksed about his education level. He will give a lower educational level each time he was ask about his background just to create a smoke screen that he is of lower average intelligence.
As a pure born Singaporean, I think our law is fine..because is about drugs ..if we live like others countries I believe our 1 small dot will in a big mess..for those foreigners who think we are strict..sorry to say ..live with it if not goes others countries..
If we see it logically, our penalty in SG should be harsher than other country so people will consider smuggling to other countries rather than here. We drop the supply in Singapore due to low smuggling rates and therefore higher price so less people would be able to afford the drugs in SG even if they know where to purchase them. If we let them have life imprisonment in SG, the drug lords will just send old people, terminally sick people and low IQ people.
If you look at the death penalty, it is an interesting cycle. You see the differing opinions of the death penalty from the older and younger generation. Perhaps because the older generation directly experienced the consequences of all these crimes such that they feel that the death penalty is necessary. That same death penalty has kept out all these crimes and has made Singapore so safe such that the younger generation do not experience the consequences of the crimes and as such feel that the death penalty is unnecessary.
The US has the death penalty and Sweden doesn't. So by your reasoning, the US should be far safer. The reason Singapore is safe may be partly to do with harsh punishments, but I'd argue is more because of social safely nets, education and a populace with something to lose. The death penalty is barbaric and there is no justification for it. Certainly not for drug offenses.
@@JohnSmith-nz2yq I wouldn't use barbaric but it's like playing God. A murderer getting the death sentence is also a murder, but institutionalised murder. The only reason it's justified is because the state has violent monopoly over its citizens. The problematic thing is that the state can be wrong, has been on severely occations even. But you can't turn someone back from the dead. That is one of several points that are problematic. You may say: well that can be solved with a solid justice system? The problem is that there will always be mistakes. The second justification ground for the death penalty is the reasoning that it's "fair". This probably depends on the ideology you have. In my eyes crimes are committed because people have been nurtured by society into it. I don't believe you're born equal, I believe you're born into a social position that gives you advantages and disadvantages. That's why you'll find millionaires who have rich parents more often than not. Just as you'll notice most ciriminals come from unstable family backgrounds and low socioeconomic status. The saying "just don't do it" doesn't really make sense then. For some crimes like drugs it is the only way to make living for a person. I'm not justifying it because I think it's wrong and the person always had a choice, but I'm saying it's just as much society's fault as it is the individual. We as a society have failed to support one another to the point of someone seeing criminality as a legit choice. If you don't agree with me on this you're basically saying that people are born criminals. I find that argument to be flawed. There is also no free choice since you base your choice upon something and that something is formed by the society you live in therefore this argument circles back to what I previously said. Therefore it seems rather two-faced to give a death penalty. After all, you're throwing water on the fire, not getting rid of the fuel. Because the death penalty doesn't make people committed less crimes. It just makes people sneakier. What lowers crimes is a solid police force and a society nurturing it's citizens into the labor force. People are what other people makes them basically. Of course there's also millionaires committing crimes but the minority doesn't disapprove the trend. Also, I believe there's a capacity for people to change. Especially within drug related issues. This also depends on the ideology but a lot of countries in Europe has a prison system which is human as well as focusing on rehabilitation. Because, as I said earlier, that is what the criminals lack. They've never been shown another way. It might seem "unfair" that the criminals get another chance but then I'll refer to my second point again. I'll also say that giving someone a death penalty isn't much justice is it? To wish death upon another? Wouldn't you rather want that person to suffer a long prison sentence instead? Perhaps for the person to feel remorse? To wish they've never committed it? Or is a simple and plain death enough? To take an extreme example: if my family were killed I would want the murderer to sit their whole life in prison and realise EXACTLY what the hell is wrong with them. I wouldn't want them to get an injection and die, simple and easy. But, everyone's different, I'm just saying that the death penalty could also be seen as "coming off easy". Those are just my opinions.
Right up till you disembark the plane, the airlines specifically mention that drug smuggling carries the death penalty in Singapore. Immigration forms list it in black and white.
Its naive to believe that being kind to drug traffickers will get a better society. Drugs can kill a whole country/city. One death is too kind. Learn from history, not repeat history.
Legalization, education, regulation, and offer help addicts is very likely the best way of going about this. Thinking that killing the traffickers solves the problem is silly.
@@shawnshawn8685 If you say you can't solve human, they're problematic and are in favor of the death penalty, does that mean you're in favor of mass genocide to extinguish all of humanity?
If this supposed intellectually disabled person got away from the death penalty, it would send the wrong signal to drug traffickers to employ more intellectually disabled people to smuggle drugs into the country. I say no, law is the law.
Then maybe the government should account for these disabled people. Many of them probably don’t even have the means to take care of themselves anyways so it would be a win win.
@@williamhenning4700 Unfortunately, this person in question who is disabled is not even a Singaporean. So which government are you referring to, who needs to take account of? So how would a government manage it if a foreigner comes into Singapore carrying drugs that will be disseminated into addicts?
@@musictecedu Ah, I see your point. Didn't know that the guy was a foreigner. That being the case, I think the suffering caused by a decision you've actively made ( choosing to purchase and do drugs ) should come second to the suffering of those who cause suffering unintentionally or only as a result of coercion even if the former creates a greater quantity of suffering overall.
You’re missing the point. If the death penalty had sent the right signals, cases wouldn’t have happened in the first place. The death penalty does nothing but address symptoms and the symptoms point to deeper problems like poverty and inequality. That should be where we should focus on. People are bound to do what they can to survive and there will be people who will exploit that. Law is written by people. Laws can be changed especially when it’s flawed.
Singapore has a death sentence for drug smuggling, and whether people like it or not, that’s the law here. People may be generous because of the peace we have now, but if we relax the law and crime rates shoots up, I’m very sure Singaporeans will personally petition for the death penalty to come back. The main controversy here is not whether we should execute a man with intellectual disability, but whether this man actually has intellectual disability. If a man does have intellectual disability, he won’t be executed. However, authorities have evidence showing how he lied and changed his statements to avoid punishments, and this shows enough intellectual ability to prove that he knew what he was doing. Thus, the sentence was maintained.
Yes the laws in Singapore seem to work fine. Every one knows they are more strict so laws should remain. Death penalty is also fine, they just need to make sure the person is truly guilty
@@worm6738 the deterrence difference may be little, but there is still a difference. And you also don't have to worry about repeat offenders which is a problem in certain areas.
@@ghostid544 I know. Just imagine if the funds used for maintaining a life imprisonment sentence was allocated to health and education. I know it is morally wrong to kill, but people never talk about the morality of neglect, that people are starving to death due to lack of food distribution, or dying due to lack of medical access and resources. All because the media and the government chooses, CHOOSES, to focus their attention on sensational headlines, and not to solving problems of the public.
@@tanzc123 the absolute opposite of what I’m arguing. Life in prison (which I do not even remotely agree with for this sort of crime) is both cheaper and a thousand times less morally repugnant than capital punishment.
The thing is if u allow so called mentally disabled persons to smuggle drugs in, there will be thousands more 'mentally disabled' person smuggling drugs in and get away with it. So NO, zero excuse. He has family that sre responsible to guide him on what not to do if hes really mentally disabled
Thousands? Do you have a credible source for these dodgy numbers you're peddling? Allowing? Goodness me is elementary logic elusive to you? You completely fail to acknowledge the motivations behind criminal behavior. The assumption that families are responsible for guiding individuals (and you conveniently only speak of their guidance with the caveat of mental disability...and drop the ball to play-pretend at insipid conjecture) is hilariously naive in so far as traffickers will at times have their families threated to get them doing the job. The man committed the crime his faculties notwithstanding. The question of family is drivel.
It is very rare to have anyone from a rich Western country executed in Singapore. The people on death row are almost all from poor ethnic minority background who have faced very precarious economic circumstances.
Hey Asian boss, why don't you have anything from Malaysia? You could cover the recent ridiculous Timah viskey situation and other ridiculous things. Is it because of Malaysia's authorities?
My friends thought of doing that. Going around streets in Msia asking what do people think of LGBTQ, should races have equal rights, freedom of religion but chickened out anyway,. Could get very ugly
@@GrumpX sorry i sound toxic. Just that im a chinese malaysian. And 2 countries that i criticize the most is malaysia and china. Everybody constantly calling out other countries, other races. Im call out my own first
at the end of the day, the laws created and enforced have made Singapore a safe place to live. Being born and growing up here, it has been great. The strict laws are not just for foreigners, it is the same if you are a singaporean. The death penalty has been around for decades. It’s nothing new. The law/justice system here would do their due diligence in investigating, assessing etc before handing out the sentence. Putting aside him having low IQ/intellectual disability; I believe the extremely harsh laws for the myriad of offences (drugs etc) do help in ensuring Singapore’s safety; and I genuinely want a safe place to live in (especially after watching news of other parts of the world). Singapore is a great place for any visitor/traveler. Bottomline, don’t go committing any crime in a country that you might have heard of having strict laws.
I don’t. It may be the smart thing to do but I think it’s cowardly to be so conformist lol Sometimes it’s important to stand up for what you believe in.
@@bangboombam Now that's a good response. There's not many people who have read the full facts of the case nor the contentions of the parties. People keep advocating for having opinions, but it's not the same if your opinions are not based on solid information. Then it's better to keep mum than add fire to the fuel. It takes courage to say "I don't know".
@@machalattes Sure, admitting ignorance is a good thing, but I don't think saying "It's down to what the leaders think" is a very helpful comment, lol.
@@williamhenning4700 coming from the US i would agree with this comment but having visited Singapore their leaders track record is much better. So I could see how citizens put trust in leadership more than where I’m from.
People should understand the implications of drug trafficking. Singapore is also trying to curb drug abuse/addiction. Surely you can acknowledge that the impact of trafficking drugs is that somewhere down the line, somebody’s life had been gravely affected, somebody’s family had been destroyed. Then Singapore’s resources (taxpayers money) are used to tackle such issues, something that can be reduced somehow. Death penalty is a way of deterrence and the Singapore court does not take death penalty lightly and they take everything into consideration before determining what the sentence should be, or at least that’s what I think. lol
Not a very fair report. The accused was given a psychiatric assessment and deemed "mentally fit" to know what he was doing. This point was omitted in the interview.
killing people wont stop drugs from being trafficked, its to in demand and there will always be people who will want it where ever you are no matter the consequences
I agree, but this case is more about the concept of being intellectually disabled than it is about drug trafficking in general. The problem is people not understanding how a seemingly dumb person could smuggle. Well: teach a dog it gets a snack when it runs across a field wearing white powder bags. There’s your smuggler.
If you think killing people is a way to end the source you are wrong, I hope you also realize the government is involved in the selling trafficking and trade of all drugs? And i mean all drugs and almost every government is just as much involved as these "criminals" Its such a simple and close minded way of thinking to think killing the people who are most likely at the bottom of the drug trade, its not going to stop it. If anything it just keeps the focus on the little guys who barley have a part in the drug ring.
@@saked9125 I think it kinda does (in my opinion) everything is a domino affect. People just don't usually care until something like this happens that questions our morals in the law. They use those types of people all the time so if they get caught, they take the fall. I don't agree with there way of handling this whole things. Its also why i believe context matters in every case. Very sad situation for that guy.
@Gia Gia Such backwards thinking. Death penalty should be reserved for major crime syndicates with multiple offenses not small time peddlers. 10-20 years should be sufficient for this guy.
Asian Boss, think you need dig deeper before asking the public those questions. He changed his education level few times at least while in jail. Previously worked as a security guard and a welder as well. Here is a question, will you depend your safety on a security guard who is "mentally disable" or even let him handle welding equipment? Honestly, he is trying to play stupid and it seems everyone is stupid enough to believe him. Asian Boss, I watched a lot of your videos, but to be honest, this one seems to be lacking in terms of understanding the real case behind it before hitting the streets. It's really a half ass effort on your part to try to drum up support for a story that really reads. 'Singapore is wrong to hang a total "retard" for drug trafficking.'
There's something called false memories you dummy. False memory refers to cases in which people remember events differently from the way they happened or, in the most dramatic case, remember events that never happened at all.
when he has the gut to get into drug trafficking, no mention about his mental health. When he was caught and sentence according to the law, suddenly his mental condition becomes such important issues! what the hell! all those hypocritical people think they are god laws have to be bent as their wish!
@@morgan9774 he actually doesnt have a mental disability he has a low iq yes but that itself does not mean that he has mental disability. he was aware that he was smuggling drugs and that should be enough. plus he was, on multiple occasions, proven to not be mentally disabled by many psychiatrists. the titling of the video is skewed
@@ahchoon9067 call people lame in the internet doesn’t make u better , try to say it in front of People face , u dare ? Of course u dun’t , cause Singaporeans only dare to complain behind …kekeke
The Singapore government does not take the number of the IQ as a benchmark. They take the point of view, that the awareness about the seriousness of the crime should be the benchmark. If it was practice people with low IQ numbers to be spared, then criminal elements might use this as a loop-hole. I am not pro-death penalty. But everyone knows that this a crime punished with the death penalty here. So, why still do it?
I still think he should have been spared. I believe there must be a way to give him one chance, ie in cases the quantities are not too far above the limit, they are young, if there was no actual harm to others, and there is no other criminal record, and if the family situations is known to be stabile. Being able to give mercy is the highest form of power.
Don't you dear young ones know drugs destroys families. I fully support the death penalty and drug lords better don't even think of using drug mules to do your dirty job. It is just a game to you(the perpetrators that landed Nag. into this situation) isn't it, to test the laws of Singapore. If you want justice for Nagaenthran, find the one who passed the drugs to him and the ring leader. And no one mentioned it.
I would say, yes, it's reasonable to execute the death penalty considering that it is the law of the land and everyone was versed of this law before they arrive at the country. No disability should be too low to understand something so straightforward. If one is spared this time, there will be others who will take advantage of this matter and in time, more drug-addicted victims in the country will follow. Now it's a different matter if the guy was framed. An investigation must be thoroughly done, so that those involved will be duly punished.
"No disability should be too low to understand something so straightforward". That makes absolutely not realistic. I'm not speaking to this situation specifically but rather in general. There are millions of people in the world with severe cognitive impairment, whether acquired (e.g. caused by TBI, etc.) or genetic/'innate' (e.g. dementia, developmental delay secondary to a syndrome or disorder, etc.). These people are vulnerable and can often be easily manipulated - and there are definitely, sadly, people who prey on this. There are people in this world who may understand that something is wrong but may not entirely understand why, or may not entirely understand the consequences. You and I know that killing someone is wrong, and if you kill someone not only will you be imprisoned, but someone has lost their life. You and I understand that this is a tragedy, especially for all of this victim's family and friends. You and I understand that if this person is dead, they are not coming back. BUT there are people who don't understand this. And there are even people who wouldn't understand that shooting, stabbing, etc. another person may kill them. There are people who understand drugs are "bad" but they don't really understand what drugs are, why they are bad, what it means to traffic them, etc. That is the simple reality of the situation. Again, I'm not speaking on this case specifically. But we also should bear in mind that there have been many people killed over the years who, it has later turned out, were either innocent or who have severe impairment. Does lifetime imprisonment not seem like a harsh enough punishment? It is harsh, but it also allows people to appeal, for people to prove their innocence if indeed they are innocent, or for it to be realised that perhaps they truly were not fit to stand trial. If you kill someone - again, you and I both understand - there is no coming from it.
tHE lAw iS tHe LaW aNd I hAVe nO aBiLitY tO tHiNk fOr mYsELf Imagine being such a simp for big government that you unironically support death penalties for drug offenders.
My understanding is that his Low IQ and special needs reasoning is something his lawyer puts out in his defence, the court however, after experts’ assessment, they can’t verify that ya? That’s only my understanding. But it’s a sad case.
@@stayprepared2388 Would you be saying the same thing if a low IQ person murdered your entire family? There are 2 different issues here; the nature of the crime and the intellect of the accused. I for one think that drug trafficking should not mandate the death sentence. Maybe life imprisonment would suffice. At the same time, i do not think people with low IQ should have their sentence reduced when it comes to murder.
@@deathdragonslayer1 If a low IQ person is hurting people then they should be restrained and taken care of by their government. Given the help they're needed until they're no longer dangerous. Anything else is just eugenics.
We all know that MANY places/oppressors do threaten ENTIRE families over ones debt. Also, his intelligence will play a part in his decision making. Death is WAAAAY to FINAL for drugs.
Singapore has established very clear and strict rules to prevent its wonderful country from being infected with social cancer that drugs affect its population. As a Canadian who has just returned to my country after living in Asia 8 years and I see with horror the absolute social disaster that Canada is suffering from the large number of young people who are addicted to fentanyl and are on the streets, I could only wish that the death penalty was instituted in Canada for drug traffickers.
@@parthapratimghose173 so the syndicates hide behind international laws while Singapore shoulders the responsibility of habilitation for the traffickers they sent? Each government should act upon what's best for the nation's interest.
Well, I think whatever he did is not fine, and if he did a crime it should be punished, it's like saying if a drunk man rapes or abuses a girl/guy it's ok cause he wasn't in the right state of mind
Next time, syndicates will recruit all the mentally disabled or mentally weaker folks to man the drug runs into Singapore, should there be 2 ways to read the law.
aryan is on bail but he will be send to drug agency for rehabilitation and he is not smuggling he was caught with it on the boat raid ! completely diffferent scenario but yes the indian law is less barbaric !
They mentioned briefly he smuggled drugs to pay back debts. I don't know what his debts were but it sucks that if he wasn't in debt this could all be avoided. Maybe he got with the wrong crowd and got involved with loan sharks but ik there are a lot of people that turn to selling drugs due to their situation in life. This is why there is a drug issue in poor neighbourhoods so maybe trying to fix some of those issues will help more in the long run.
As a young singaporean, I fully support the death penalty. We often take our country's peace and stability for granted because it has been maintained for a few decades, but we cannot assume that this will always be the way. Look around our neighbouring countries and you will see what leniency on drugs/criminals can do, and it a slippery slope to start making exceptions for 1 person, because then criminals will start making a case argument based on the first exception made! Why fear the death penalty if you are a law abiding citizen??
It’s great to have the death penalty. It’s nothing at all, no one will have to die, since we don’t tolerate drugs in OUR community. Deterrence at best, especially to foreigners whom want to try their luck in proliferating drugs within our drugs-free country. Same as guns. Death to them whom want to bring in here. Our peace and security is not something taken granted for, and shall never be.
I wish the interviewer should have provided the information to the interviewees that the "intellectually disabled" person 1. knew full well what he was doing, 2. was aware of the rewards (money) and punishment (death penalty) of doing so, 3. and had still chosen to do so I'm not saying I fully support the death penalty, but I would have liked for the discourse to have included full facts from the case and see if the people's opinions do change or still remained the same despite that
I don’t think someone can be called “intellectually disabled” if they are capable of committing the crime of smuggling drugs into a country. He obviously knew what he was doing. He had enough knowledge to do this crime…so he should be punished….although I feel the death penalty is too harsh and he should spend a long time in prison instead. But we also have to think about all the lives that drug would have impacted too and I believe our laws should be tougher on drugs because it can turn normal people into zombies basically….they are no longer able to take care of themselves or others and a lot of violent behavior and crime comes along with these drugs. So I agree with a very strong punishment…..but the death penalty might be too strong….but that would get rid of a lot of drug dealers….and drug users are walking dead already and many die of overdose so really they’ve already given themselves the death penalty.
Well damn, so much for Singapore is a multicultural place and our workforce is mainly imported. You don’t know how long she’s lived in SG or might even be holding citizenship already through work or whatever means.
The 42 grams being smuggled by the accused is less than 3 tablespoons. The man was mentally challenged and threatened by his debtors to smuggle. Why not get the drug Lords and Triads who roam freely and launder their money in these rich cities? Punishing the mules to death is cheap. The level of reasoning is poor to say that the execution takes time as if it ameliorates. A person on death row mentally dies several deaths before being executed.
The drug lords are powerful figures from other countries. They’re difficult to identify and their location is tough to track. Usually taking them down requires years of planned operations and efforts from international organisations. They cannot be taken down with this case of a low level drug mule alone.
I'm an American. I think singapore is a wonderful place. I feel very safe visiting singapore with my young family. This is because of the effective laws of this city state. They obviously work. This is an unfortunate case, but if the law does apply here then it is likely more people will try using low IQ mules to traffic drugs. America has so many problems due to week law. You are fortunate to have LKY
getting to hear from the voices of the citizen and understand first to know the countries views and opinion is the first step before making a judgement. I like this types of interviews rather then one to one interview.. good job Asian boss
Asian Boss 15:23 Not sure why youre interviewing an Indonesian in a Singaporean Video? She also has a very heavy American accent. Its rather obvious shes not Singaporean?
Look I am a Singaporean and I do not have a problem including her in the video. We have a lot of Singaporeans here whom ain’t born Singaporeans too. Even if she is obviously not Singaporean, I think she was included into this interview as a foreigner living in Singapore perspective.
@@Heyfen306 Not everything is about YOU. Us viewers want AUTHENTIC views from ACTUAL locals. Not imported residents. They can make a separate video on foreigners view in SG as they have for China, Korea, Japan etcc.
IMO the death penalty for drug trafficking is forever relevant. As in Malaysia, there are many cases involving drug junkies slaughtering their family members over RM30/RM60 to buy drugs. Most of the parents know that their son is a junkie but reluctant to send them off to correctional facilities. In the end, the death of innocent life is the price. Therefore, death penalty is the only way to curb it. But the main problem, we live in a corrupted world. Gov/authorities know who is behind this cartel, most hold a title and rank in society and it is no surprise that some policeman also works hand in hand with them to cover up their illegal activities. Oftentimes, those who are being sent to the gallows are scapegoats or the ones who are being manipulated.
Did you know that random tourists having a holiday in another country are accosted, kidnapped, and forced to smuggle drugs or be murdered? The smugglers are victims as well, and the Singaporean crime force could've used the smuggler to try to find the real criminals trying to do harm. The death penalty for the drug dealers, or the higher-ups is one thing, sure, but for the smugglers, when you know how the drug business acquires their smugglers is nothing but heartless, cruel, lazy, and backwards.
The death penalty isn’t the only way. Part of why families are reluctant to turn in family members is because the government sees prison as the only option. If families could force them into treatment and it was paid for that would probably save people early on. In countries where they prioritize treatment they’ve seen an improvement. I’d rather see drug addicts institutionalized. It is a difficult issue though. I really wonder who got a mentally disabled person to do this though. It would be better to kill whoever got him to do it.
Why is it only drug addicts who have a bad reputation? There's more than one type of addiction remember? There's also alcohol addiction, sugar addiction, social media addiction, shopping addiction and so on. People get hooked onto drugs and other addictions because they're struggling with their mental health and everyone struggles with their mental health.
@@romanceidiot Because I'm an addict too. I'm addicted to social media, but society doesn't treat me like crap. It's only drug addicts society treats like crap. Most people have addictions, but they aren't aware of it. People need to start asking themselves or stop lying to themselves that they're not addicts. There's no shame in admitting you're an addict because that's the only way you can start your healing journey.
Lol the government makes it very explicit that drug trafficking carries the death penalty. When you cross the causeway, there are huge LED boards that reminds drivers of such a law. Additionally, when foreigners are going to land here, the foreigner particulars card, that has to be filled up, has the law stated out in a red bar with big bolded words at the top of the card.
As someone from the much younger generation of adults, I can say, I agree with the death penalty I was old enough to see my great great grand parents, before their passing, I have an amazing extended family tree, and they are safe because of Singapore's laws. They are alive and happy because its safe here, and I want to be known as the fun and caring great great grandpa many decades later.
I’m a fan of Asian boss but clearly you are creating misleading video against Singapore justice system on protecting its citizens….the man is not intellectual disable and he smuggle heroin, not cannabis which you try so hard to influence the viewers and interviewee perception. How about telling viewers and interviewee the impact of drugs on families and lives. Most ppl you interview have not seen the real impact of drugs abuse.
This video telling me that, Singapore future is gone already. The youth/teens influenced by the Westerns and social media, making them to think and comment like the intellectual disable guy. Read up on the news, don’t change the law just because you don’t like it. Don’t like the law, just don’t commit the offence, it’s so easy as that. Do the people in 20s - 40s can’t control themselves? Learn to read from actual source and not from some people who felt unfair and spreading false news around. Lee Kwan Yew have said before, sacrifice one rather than sacrificing the whole, justice need to be fair. In the future, everyone just using mental disabled to do this to generate income? Why he need money, he need to go thru this? If he no money work hard lah, or just lazy don’t want to work, idiots in the video speaking
The youths are Influenced by western media.? while singapore begging for food and resources from western countries in the name free trade (begging) agreements.
Although the law is written clearly but still depends very much on who is on the bench that day. Like the famous Terrence Siow molest case, the sentence not only surprised the public but also the law minister himself which later overturned by the CJ.
Mentally disabled person threatened into trafficking drugs to pay off debts. Even intelligent people with good education rack up debts and try to solve it by trafficking drugs. Don't equate mental disability with stupidity. Unless he did not know that what he was transporting was drugs, he should get the death penalty. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The only reason why Singapore is not flooded with drugs is because there is the death penalty. To not enforce it is to send the wrong message to traffickers.
I think the low IQ was brought up only towards the end. If this is allowed, all the low IQ and mental individuals will be targetted by the drug traffickers. If the Malaysia PM really care he will find out who is A**hole behind the smuggling and sentence him in place and then ask Singapore to pardon. Its is so easy to write a letter but to keep the security and peace is a life long tasks.
Low IQ people do understand and fear death sentence as well. Among these low/high IQ people, there is always someone willingly to take the risk(s). Don't blame the system for trying to protect you, even it is not perfect in some people eyes.
