I heard a lot of cops were killed at a police station by an assailant with an AR-18 in California in 1983. I think he even drove through the front office..
I heard that guy might have had a dead cat in his motel room, and yeah he got away but he'll be back for a sequel but with a different attitude. I think he traded the AR18 for a chain gun.
AR15.COM Hmmm, so you think a 9mm is a better round than a .45ACP??? Have you ever talked to anyone shot with either? In the NG I worked with a guy who, as a cop, had been in a shootout. He and perp were each shot three times with 9mm, both lived, cop sold his 9mm and bought a .45ACP the next week (on first trip out of house after being sent home from hospital). Said he didn’t like people shooting back at him after he had already put plus p rounds in them.... and no, perp wasn’t hopped up on PCP or anything, neither was the cop, both just running on adrenaline......
Guns are supposed to be fun? I don't know man, I heard the same thing about sex, motorcycles and all you can eat buffets. A lot of wild claims get thrown around these days.
I don't know about therest but ak's function well in extreme cold because they are overgassed. Where i live it only rarely gets below 30 Fahrenheit so it's notmuch of a consideration. Still, I love my ak's.
I am quite familiar with the older AR180 and appreciated the differences, like the folding stock. New, they came with two mags. Since additional mags were difficult to obtain, we just started with a regular AR mag, used a mill machine to add the slot to fit the rifles system and moved on. They worked great. A new/old mag system and lower is great. Now I want a new upper. Thanks
This is why I love the AR15 platform so much, and consider it to be the ultimate free mans rifle. Because it can be adapted, due to its modularity, being able to accept all sorts of different stuff that was not originally available. Now that much is obvious to most of you, but here is what I'm getting at when I say this. Bans are often focused on preventing civilians from getting modern weapons, or being able to adapt guns to accept features not originally available for them. The 1986 machine gun ban is an example of this, a lot of advancements have been made since then and people can't own the full auto guns that take advantage of those advancements, at least in most cases. But the AR15 can be readily modernized, and existing registered m16 lowers (and AR-15 lowers and other parts if they ban those and they are grandfathered or if people hold onto them in secret) can be used to make weapons with a wide variety of features. It allows civilian small arms to keep up with modernization, or in the case of something like this, adaptation to accept new features, actions, calibers, bolts etc. that might have been around at the time but were just not made for the AR15. In any case that AR180 upper is cool.
I know what you mean but, wouldnt really say he personally seen it a large "improvement". He rather seen it as an optimized piston option that was meant for countries with less manufacturing capabilitys and money. And for that it has a really good layout, the recoil rods are on the same axis as the piston. Normal piston AR15's are so fundamentally flawed because the axis of the piston is higher than the channel the boltcarrier moves in (therefore carrier tilt destroys the receiver much faster). But the AR15 DI using its bolt as a reverse internal piston is an incredible system, and still has a lot of advantages. Its verry soft not just in recoil but on the receiver and parts. Its lighter, has less barrel whip, and actively shields the ejection port with gas blowing out of the carrier. During ejection of a piston system debree can get in easier. Ofcourse knowing you, you mostly agree with that, i just slightly disagreed of what you said he might intended it as. And in therms of heat yes, for LMG's with others carrying ammo for you, but as a rifleman you cant really carry enough ammo to get a quality AR hot or dirty enough.
I sort of do that with mine. Kind of a hybrid charge of how Russians trained to charge the AK-47/AKM/AK-74 and how the Israelis charge the Galil. Very neat upper.
I have an original AR180. And it is a blast to shoot. I have put thousands of rounds down range with it which all kinds of different ammo and it has never ever failed me. So I look forward to this BNC version. Thank you. And yes shoot is FUN!
good review !!! have there been any issues with this upper, i was told by a handfull of guys who have purchased this upper that they had reliability issues and brownells stopped production of this "gen1" model and brownells now has a "updated/improved" gen2 version they released this week that has been upgraded and updated to address the short-comings of the gen 1 version.
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It's different and it pops right on any old AR15 lower. That makes it a pretty darn cool concept. I know the haters are gonna hate - thats what they do.... But I'm just over here thinking that options are good and if you want one, you should buy one... if you don't, well.... don't. Thx for the review.
You should pair this up with a cmmg .22lr conversion upper. Both dont need a buffer extension. And someone makes a pic rail to take the place of the extension. I believe the two are a perfect combo.
Lefty here, always shoot rifles right-handed. The left side charging handle makes way more sense to me. The very underrated Robinson XCR is a fine example.
I live in calinazi. I bought this upper in the available rounds with spare parts. Well worth it. If you live outside of states like Cali and New York. Plenty of pistol and truck gun options for this.
Thank you. I have an Adams piston upper that I like much better than the DI uppers. I also have a side charger DI. I was trying to figure out if a side charger could be adapted to piston when you put this video out. This is a much better option. Now I need to sell a DI and wait for a sale. Brownells frequently has 10% off with free shipping.
@william terry Everyone has their own preferences like Chevy or Ford. I like the piston. It stays cleaner and runs cooler. It is a little heavier and possibly not quite as accurate but that takes target or hand loads to determine. I can consistently hit a 10" gong at 300 yards with factory ammo and a 2 MOA red dot. That is good enough for me.
I enjoyed your review of the a lot. It is a great system by evidence of the number of other rifles coping the system. The one thing you mentioned is that Stoner changed the operating system because he thought it was better. This is not true. He had to change it because the rights to the DI system were sold to Colt in the early '60s and could no longer use the system. Again thanks for the great review of the BRN-180, I've looked at the complete rifle but was not aware they made an AR comparable upper.
I'm sorry I just had to clarify something. John Browning made a high power for what he called the 9.8 mm closer to the 40 Smith and Wesson. I should know he is family.
@william terry I've read about SEALs in Afghanistan, with 18" Mk.12 SPRs and some kind of special ammo, making 700-yard-plus hits. I won't swear to the veracity of that but I've seen it heard it from different sources a few times.
You'll need to have an M16 lower and piles of magazines to answer that question precisely. The general answer is that any DI or piston AR as well as the BRN-180, SCAR, or most other modern rifles will run perfectly through several times more ammo than an infantryman normally carries. So there is no conceivable way that it could ever matter in a fight.
No gas tube, piston vents up at the gas block. I have a PWS. They are the manufacturer of this product. My Mk114 gets dusty under the handguard, bolt still looks new, and stays cool after 500rd pumpkin shoots. This BRN180 is a different design, but no gas tube to get hot
IMHO, the AR-18/AR-180 is what the M16/AR15 should have been to some degree. Almost every modern rifle designed or developed in the last decade or 2 has done away with the need for a buffer tube. And there is a Very Good reason for this!
I’m happy to see the quest for the piston AR with a foldable stock is back: AR-180 > Daewoo K2 > BRN-180 > Sig MCX And now with the latest arrival of the long stroke gas piston PSA Jakl and the direct impingement FM-15 and CMMG Dissent, the quest only got more interesting.
Some how never have heard of an Ar-180 till now. interesting ! i 've seen plenty of kits that convert from gas tub to piston driven but never a design like that. Would you say you prefer it over the traditional AR platform ? I mean i like my ar as is but building another. this looks so interesting. but then against im also looking at that ARC 6mm conversion possibly for this build. Just thought this was cool.
Generally piston guns are a little less accurate due to the movement of the piston over the barrel, interfering with the harmonics. To how much of a degree. That probably depends on the rifle and ammo.
I am lucky enough to have an AR-180B. I really like that rifle, it has history too. Was in a garage fire, forward handguard is melted on one side. Gets a lot of looks when out at the range. Maybe someday l can add the Brownells to my stuff.
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The hi power is the 1911 done right? I'm not sure we're ready to hear that. Give it time maybe the hi power will catch on. I know, we should just rename it so it sounds like a new thing, something more modern from this century like the 2011. Nah that'll never catch on...
The difference between an AR 18 and AR 180 is that the AR 18 is a select fire rifle that was designed for military contract. The AR 180 is the semi-auto civilian version. It's like the difference between a M14 and a M1A. Since according to gun laws in the US, the gun is the lower receiver and yours is a semi-auto, that makes your rifle an AR 180-ish rifle.
I might be wrong, but I don't think Stoner had anything to do with the AR-18/180. He had already left Armalite by the time they started developing the AR-18.
Nope. ..stoner designed this one as well cuz armalite sold the ar15 to colt and colt took it to military trials and armalite wanted in aswell so stoner had this one in the works wich he thought was a better gun anyways and presented this to trials aswell. ..tired of txting, go wiki this stuff, its a cool story...ar18 shoulda been americas gun
Nothing is currently defined as an assault weapon at the federal level. Various states have assault weapon bans that define a number of firearms by name and many more by feature. To my knowledge, there isn't a single jurisdiction that has defined only AR-15 and AK-47 rifles by name. That's mainly because only Colt and Armalite ever made AR-15 rifles and only Russia ever made an AK-47, and that only for a very brief period of time.
@@chopinbloc Well I don't know where you got that info about the Ak 47 as when they banned sales of them in the US the Manufacture of them moved to Florida and they have a Factory in central Florida now.
@@chopinbloc No Shit I was Born and raised in Hollywood ,Fla.Just so you know the ban was on importation of said Rifles and so they moved their plant to Florida.
The operating parts ie piston and bolt are more foward than ar 15 di system = less muzzle climb during operation. More moving parts like the piston gives you a harder but quicker recoil. Cyclic rates are different but its the moving weight that changes that feel.
@@Sturmischer the standards the military uses to measure pressure and what ammunition companies use differs. A 5.56 and .223 are basically identical, including pressures.
@@chopinbloc Got you. I'm afraid I might have to buy one. The folding stock is just the excuse I need to build a new truck gun...you know, because it makes it easier to operate in vehicles and whatever other BS I'll tell myself whilst paying for it 😆 I really need to find a cheaper hobby.
@@828enigma6 Can you get a Galil stock that interfaces with 1913? I'm having trouble finding much info on folding stock options for these. The best I've come up with is the Sig stocks with an adapter from KNS. Also, all I found available was 16 and 18" barreled uppers. Where the 14, 10, etc?
Don't know about a Galil stock that will fit a 1913. On another note, Wolfe was selling South Korean uppers with 16, 14.5, 11.5, and 10" (?) Barrels. The less than 16" were for SBR and 5.56 pistol builds.
Um.... of course, the springs on anything are going to wear out before the springs on the same thing that doesn't have springs will wear out.... kind of hard to wear out what you don't have...
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the reciprocating charging handle is the only thing I hate. to bad it's not like the FN PARA. if you have ever shot an H&K 91 or 93, you will notice the muzzle flip is more pronounced. why? the it's all in the piston (like the FN, AK, Galil) that mass just makes the muzzle flip up more than direct impingement if an AR-15.. Just 30 years of my 2 cents.
You say the AR 18 / 180 is an improved AR-15. That is fundamentally incorrect; the AR-18 was made to be more simple and less expensive to manufacture. It was intended to be built under license buy countries who could not afford or were not capable of manufacturing AR-15s. When originally designed, the di system was more advanced, lighter, considered more accurate, and considered more reliable than piston guns, which is an older design. When designed, there was no question about which rifle was the better system.
man, why do you make it so complicated and don't say plain and simple that the whole gas mechanism with a rotating bolt works on the same principle as the Kalashnikov... 🤣 you make good videos, full support for what and how you do it, and otherwise I'm interested in your opinion about the weapon "Zastava Serbian production greeting