The reason why people are fat shaming is because in the early 2000s having curvy wasn’t a beauty thing it was an ugly thing that’s why in teen movies they are pencils
Whistling in Latin American countries at sporting events and stuff is the equivalent to booing so the audience WAS actually upset for that one scene you mentioned.
@@bluelfsumaIt began as a way to play dirty and a tactic to distract the opposing kicker rival during penalty shootouts. (Like the Anti-Dibu Martinez Rule) I guess it worked since it was effective because of how annoying and loud the high-pitch whistles are. Like the vuvuzelas in South Africa 2010
@@waly6002 Oh, thanks! Funny, I thought it would be something farther in history, like... war cries? I guess?? I dunno. Thanks for the answer, I wasn't expecting one. 👍
Calling her fat is so wild her body type is incredibly traditionally attractive not even like the hot librarian effect she's literally just regularly seen as attractive
That body type (pear shaped) is literally just due to your bone size/length/width. It can be accentuated by fat distribution, but fat distribution is about as random as your bone size is. So, yeah, really odd to call her fat when she's not fat?
@@ry1023.3 Are we going down the road of Hispanic and Latino as more ethnic groups versus racial groups like white? Or was my self deprecation not clear enough?
Fun fact This movie was being promoted as "Colombia's first fully fleshed animated movie" . It tried to make it a big deal as well. But that statement is utterly wrong. Because the actual first animated movie made in Colombia wasn't regué chicken. But Bolivar el héroe. A fantastical reimagining of Simon Bolivar's life that was (and I'm not joking) inspired and made to resemble the Anime going around at the time like saint Seiya and dragon ball z
And it was SO bad, one of the worst animated movies i have ever seen, it just looks like a goddamn parody of what old people think an anime is like, but it's trying to be 100% serious, i can't.
Bolivar el Héroe was so bad, that for years in Colombia, people thought the movie just, didn't exist. That it was just a rumour that other countries made up to make Colombia look bad. Imagine making a movie so bad that people legit think it doesn't exist and it's just a hoax to make your nation look bad lmao
12:25 I think in this scene "Chicken" is the translation of the word "Gallina" that refers only to female chickens, aside from its shared secondary meaning. So basically the brother was calling him a "girl" and a "coward" at the same time
As a fellow wimpy nerd named Gabriel, I can confirm that we all instantly turn into super ripped muscly gigachads the second we take our glasses off. Only if your name is Gabriel though. If not then it doesn't work.
My guess is that the writers meant for Violetta to be fat, but then someone higher up was like, "she can't be too fat though." And so they made her just have big hips without changing anything in the script.
Yeah I agree it might have been an issue of conflict between different players in parts of the production process. It reminds me of an interesting recurring issue in a cartoon I very much love (Dan Vs) where the deteragonist is often not drawn as looking overweight but the writing suggests that he is. Occassionally it shows but not really. There was also a scene where someone was commenting on bad handwriting, but the handwriting itself actually looked fine. There has to be good communication and agreement between the writers, character designers, artists, animators, etc of a project or you get weird issues like this.
i feel like a lotta ppl in media production dont wanna portray fat characters with accurate anatomy as cute/sexy bc they dont want ppl to think they have a fetish or want to, god forbid, "'"promote an unhealthy lifestyle"'". not like i think making the main character look like squidward in the krabby patty vault wasnt fueled by horniness, but still.
@@josephinehowell5280 so true I literally only see like pear shaped chubby girls even if they're bigger, and when people depict these characters it's always a joke on how they eat too much or how they used to be skinny but let themselves go. it just sucks ass.
I imagine reason why the movie insists in calling her "fat" it's because they weren't able to call her "fat-_ass"_ (culona) and keep it a PG-rated movie Either way, rather odd to try to bodyshame her like that since her body-type is often seen as the opposite of undesireable
My theory is that the designers and the writers wanted to actually make her fat but the director said "Don't actually make her fat, we still want her to be kind of sexy for marketing." So they left her with dat-ass™ and didn't change any dialogue.
The most ironic thing to me is how the metalheads were portrayed as the bullies and the reguetoneros as the bullied, when in real life way way waaaay more often than not, metalheads tend to be chill and keep to themselves and reguetoneros are usually the archetypical latinoamerican bullies and violent gang members.
@@kurotenshi8100 Actually no, they're all chicken, chicken would be human, chick would be baby, hen woman, cock/rooster man, pullet girl, and cockerel boy.
@@neerGdyahSThe og dialogue was meant to be in Spanish tho, they used "Gallina" which means a hen, "Gallo" is for a rooster, and "Pollo" is for chicks. By calling him "Gallina" he basically called him a girl, that was the original phrasing of the movie, coming from a native Spanish speaker.
I'm guessing they keep calling Violetta "fat" as a way to sort of make a desirable quality look like a flaw. It keeps the female character humble and therefore accessible (in the realm of imagination), plus makes a flimsy cover-up for the fact the creators drew her sexy on purpose. It's kind of like when people make a character whose flaw is "too smart/bookworm." They may sometimes suffer social consequences for it in their world, but it's obviously a good quality and is interpreted as such by the viewers, too.
24:43 In many Spanish-speaking cultures, whistling is their version of booing. That's why you see some of the crowd angrily whistling. Contrast to here in the US, whistling is seen as a positive thing.
@@daniapfel2825 yeah that's me. I'm that dumb American. lol. If I went there unaware I would have been thinking, dang I must be looking good today. 😂 This is why if I ever get the chance to go to another country I'm looking up etiquette videos for that country.
Which is why being vulnerable and allowing yourself to feel emotion is so powerful. People are human, and humans feels emotion. And those who think that's wrong and it's something to ridicule likely suppress their own emotions or are simply heartless to the point where they practically have none.
Two funny things that Crítico Histérico commented in his review of this movie and stood in my mind: 1) Claudio's name might be a reference to Foghorn Leghorn, who's called Gallo Claudio (Rooster Claudio) in Latin America and it's kind of a beloved character here, probably because of the dubbing. 2) The design of Violeta's stalker friend (whose name I can't remember now) makes no sense at all since he wears a fraternity jacket. Such things aren't common in Latin America and Crítico Histérico pointed it as an example of Latinamerican productions trying to mimic USA culture due to a lack of sense of cultural identity.
Claudio’s name probably is a reference to Foghorn Leghorn. Sometimes symbols refer to multiple things. But one of the things that Claudio’s name is definitely a reference to is William Shakespeare’s Hamlet. I’m not kidding and it’s not a stretch. They changed some of the family relations and the order of events a little and they removed some events while adding others, but there’s definitely a little Hamlet in this story. (Also, The Lion King did the same thing.) In Hamlet, the character Claudius poisons Hamlet’s father and marries his mother. Then Hamlet spends the story first trying to figure out if it’s true, and then trying to figure out what to do about it. Claudius also sets up a fight at the end of the story between Hamlet and another character wherein the plan is to put poison on the other fighter’s blade in order to kill Hamlet even if he just scratches him. But in Hamlet, Claudius was Hamlet’s uncle. He murders his own brother and marries his newly widowed sister-in-law, becoming Hamlet’s stepfather, which might explain why the story in this movie includes an element that’s semi incestuous but not really. Also, pretty much everybody dies at the end of Hamlet, and that might explain why the climax of this movie treats death more casually than one might expect
@@readwrecks I don't know why I didn't pick up on that, but once somebody points it out I can't not see how obviously that is. Doing hamlet seems like a real swing-for-the-fences move but I guess if you're going to go for something go for the biggest most melodramatic thing possible.
@Helterskelter9670 Yeah I was picking up on that characters jacket too and thought really that's a thing over there?! So seeing it just be a weird cliche thing added for no reason makes sense which is weird to say because it doesn't but now it does.
25:00 Seriously though, imagine buying tickets to some UFC fighter's great return, and he just pulls out a piano on the octagon while some dancers twirl around. I guess at some point I'd be mad at the ticket money spent, but I think I'd also laugh my ass off.
As a latinamerican animator myself, i'm really glad you're opening yourself more to what us south americans have to offer, although maybe you should've started with a good movie, una película de huevos and it's sequel for example, or metegol (do NOT watch the version by the weinstein company, they ruin the script completely), or shows like 31 minutos, etc. Also i really appreciate that you shouted out Miko and Crítico Histérico, and that you were willing to research so much about our film industry, this is a great video of yours, even with how terrible regue chicken is.
As a side note (and to not lose the heart by editing the previous comment) i gotta say, the voice acting in this movie is SO all over the place. Gabriel's voice is so monotone and uninterested, and one of Violeta's friends has such a horrid, grating voice, like Jesus Christ. Also, when Gabriel's step brother calls him a "gallina" it's because they're roosters, and gallina is what we call hens, so he's essentially calling Gabriel a girl, still mighty fucked up in that context lmao.
Long as her ass isn't saggy and wrinkled (Seems pretty firm to me) yah she's normally considered attractive, at least for her butt. COuld make a case about her more simple not so pretty face and how she seems flat chested. But yah, calling her fat makes no sense.
I feel like this movie could've worked if the writers just made a few changes. 1. Have Gabriel's parents still be married at the start of the movie and make the bad guy obsessed with his mom. Then, a few months after his dad's death, Gabriel's mom can't pay the bills anymore so Claudio swoops in and offers to let them stay at his house free of charge. This not only make his plan to murder Gabriel's father makes more sense, it also removes any weirdness of Gabriel and Violetta's romance. 2. There's an underlying theme of this movie regarding gender norms and how bullshit they are but it doesn't go all the way with it. Like spark says, Violetta is frequently criticized by the bad guys for not acting like a hen, but the movie never establishes how a hen should act. Now, I know nothing about Colombian gender norms but I feel like one idea for how to do this would be that, instead of the stupid fat-shaming thing, people kept calling out Violetta for being high energy and free-spirited rather than prim and demure and that a proper lady wouldn't be dancing like that to that kind of music. Violetta, understandably, would tell them to shove it but would have no allies outside of some fair-weather friends and the Nice Guy in the letterman jacket. Then when she meets Gabriel and criticizes him for crying, she could apologize to him for that after finding out why he was crying and support his love of playing piano. 3. Instead of ending the movie with a cock fight, Gabriel and Violetta plan to steal Claudio's evil plan folder. Claudio can hold an engagement party after getting the mom to agree to marry him. Then during the party, Gabriel could distract everyone with his piano playing while Violetta takes on the guards watching Claudio's office with her dancing skills. That way, the protagonist can use the things they love doing and were criticized for to reveal the truth and send Claudio to jail. This would tie in with the themes of deconstructing gender norms and make Gabriel confident enough to do what he loves without worrying about criticism while Violetta finally has someone who genuinely supports her and what she loves doing. There's a nugget of a good story here but it's bogged down by meandering plot points and nonsensical character motivations.
I think another route would be the protagonist would like to fight but being told that he was weak and then him realizing that fighting is not always about strength but could be about how you handle it
Not gonna lie, thought you were going to mention more in detail how Gabriel's grandfather literally scamming an entire crowd into thinking he would return to wrestling just for him to do a piano concert (AND THE MOVIE WANTS YOU TO FEEL PITY FOR HIM)
I appreciate that he keeps trying, shows that he is more than willing to make a fool of himself in the pursuit for accuracy, and it comes out of respect for other cultures, so, i love that.
As a Latin American I'm very happy that you're willing to dive into the history of our animation. It's a long and diverse history! Can't wait to see more of this content on your channel!
0:18 This film was meant to be an animated telenovela, broken down into 40-minute episodes to understand the overall plot and characters. 0:28-8:09-10:56-17:13-18:58-19:50-29:04 The fat shaming comes from the 1950s-2000s where people would call those who were not fat "fat" as a form of bullying. They are referring to Violeta Herrera's butt. I think that the reason that they call her fat is because Dago García is used to television dramas and could not really use any real insults due to the fact this is basically a film for children. Violeta being called "fat", "orphan" and "troublemaker" does not take anything away from the story. It adds more weight to its message of purpose being relative and that you must decide for yourself who you are and what life means to you. Everyone in this film is being told that they are someone that they are not. They are all weighed down by so many labels. Gabriel and Kid Pantaleon love the arts but are pinned down under the weight of needing to carry on their family's cock fighting legacy. Even Emiliano turns out to not be a bully and jerk, and the whole film was set up in a way where you are supposed to dislike him. Maestra is actually Violeta's grandmother, not a teacher. 8:18-29:12-29:23-29:47-32:27 If you know how chickens live and communicate with each other, this film has its accurate touch. From only the strong male becoming most of the chicks to killing each other. I know of a tiny hen who is strong enough to beat a rooster if she does not want to get "intime", but in this flock, she is the only one. If you know this, this film makes a little bit more sense. 8:45-13:42 Gabriel Dangond's father is named Porfirio Dangond, not Porifio Dangond. 9:17-13:09-13:28-15:03-22:02-30:00 Claudio Padron's name is a reference to William Shakespeare's Hamlet. Dago García and María Mercedes Sánchez changed some of the family relations and the order of events a little and they removed some events while adding others, but there is definitely a little Hamlet in this story. In Hamlet, the character Claudius poisons Hamlet's father and marries his mother. Then Hamlet spends the story first trying to figure out if it is true, and then trying to figure out what to do about it. Claudius also sets up a fight at the end of the story between Hamlet and another character wherein the plan is to put poison on the other fighter's blade in order to kill Hamlet even if he just scratches him. But in Hamlet, Claudius was Hamlet's uncle. He murders his own brother and marries his newly widowed sister-in-law, becoming Hamlet's stepfather, which might explain why the story in this film includes an element that might seem semi-incestuous, but is really not. A chick leaving her compassionate loyal mate for a wealthy one is also something that lines up with reality. Pretty much everybody dies at the end of Hamlet, and that might explain why the climax of this film treats death more casually than one might expect. 12:23-12:25-12:57-26:18 I get why the translator, Miko, chose to use the word "chicken" in this scene, but "chicken" is the translation of the Spanish word "gallina", which refers only to female chickens/hens, aside from its shared secondary meaning. So basically Emiliano Padrón was calling Gabriel a "girl" and a "coward" at the same time. 17:03-17:27-23:04-23:10-28:21-31:26-31:29-34:13 Gabriel's mother Alicia Dangond remarried and Violeta is Claudio's niece. There is literally no family blood between Gabriel and Violeta, because they have just met and step-cousins come from completely different family trees. Them hooking up would be no different than somebody having sex with their spouse. It is quite easy to gain the affection of someone who already knows you than to gain it from a complete stranger. The step-cousin romance stuff is relatively common in soap operas and family dramas. 19:50 Accents in this film are kind of exaggerated. Like the chicken boy can't finish most sentences without going for the accent, which leads to some weird end of sentences and lines in general. 22:46 To be fair, motorcycles are a lot more common in Colombia than they are in the United States of America. It is not just the tough guys that ride them there. 24:43 Whistling in Latin American countries at sporting events and stuff is the equivalent to booing, so the audience was actually upset in that one scene that you mentioned. 31:14 A typical telenovela differs from your American/European type of soap opera, because it actually has a planned ending. Whether it is 100, 150 or 250 episodes, there is a fixed ending. Usually, when the two protagonists actually end up together, and all the villains are either dead, in jail, or turned good meanwhile. There is no dragging the plot through decades with most of the cast being recast or replaced.
also thank you for adding the step-cousin thing because it was getting annoying. they have no relation other than legal binding through thire separate parents, why is it weird if they are together?
for those who dont know: the cartoon "Betty Toons" is based off a very popular latino sitcom called "Betty la Fea." It was so popular, the show got americanized into Ugly Betty
If we’re talking about the chicken in the thumbnail, she isn’t even fat. She just has thunder thighs and a triangular shape. That figure is Hella, attractive to many men and women. What are we getting at here?😂
How has nobody mentioned 20:41 ? “Marie Curie was the first person to receive two Nobel Peace Prizes in different fields of science.” Nobel PEACE Prizes… in fields of SCIENCE… 😭😭😭
In lots of other countries, not least of which Spanish-speaking countries in the Americas, whistling at sporting events is considered a form of showing displeasure.
The whole step-cousin romance stuff is relatively common in the soap opera and family drama TV series, so I honestly didn't even bat an eye at it when you pointed it out. Hell, just look at anime and eastern dramas, and you'll find them everywhere. And at least for this movie, they aren't blood related nor had the time to develop familial bonds to begin wth. They are literally just strangers forced under one roof and left it immediately. If anything, their romance is more sensible than a lot of the insane stuff in the movie that make even less sense.
I’m not sure about other eastern dramas but Japan absolutely takes the cake on that, especially with their plethora of doujinshi and adult animations… Given that Japan has a lot of SA that goes unreported, I’m a bit scared of what might be happening just beyond the family living room 🥲
Gringos are prudes in terms of relationships, even when this doesn't make any sense (step cousins but only in paper, age gaps even though both in the couple are adults over 21 for giving a example, etc).
Can I just say that I really appreciate how the "Saber can't pronounce any names that sound even vaguely non-american" arc is finally over? Thanks for making an effort to improve on that front, man.
He does fumble the pronunciation a little, but I'm not gonna crucify him for that, also no wonder he can't pronounce Gabriel's father's name, wtf is that name
Gotta say, as a mexican, I wasn´t expecting the Soraya clip, but I am not dissapointed. Also, "una película de huevos" is in fact a pun in mexican slang. It's a movie about eggs, so "huevos" but also the expression "de huevos" means it's very good or impressive.
Una Pelicula the Huevos has to be one of the best things to come out of Mexico. Animation, voice acting and humor it's all so clever and well done. Many kids from my generation loved it and still do today. The whole universe that came out of it is hilarious as well.
A movie about the protagonist having to choose between Fighting or Dancing, and nobody thought of Capoeira as the solution for the entire plot? That would write itself.
Orgullo colombiano 🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴 As a Colombian I even remember seeing the ads for this movie on TV and newspapers, I never went to see it (and if I remember correctly my family found the movie "stupid") and only knew about it from the reviews. I am thrilled to see someone from the other side of the pond acknowledge its existence and talk about it. I really wish our animation industry would produce better stuff, there is a lot of potential and interest behind it.
@@lizzzbenoist Incluso en estándares de LATAM chafamos, sin embargo se ve que por lo menos hay intentos de hacer "algo". Por eso me gustaría ver mejores producciones de acá incluso si suena como algo difícil
i've always had this alternate version of this movie in my mind where Violeta wants to become a ballet dancer but is unsure because of her chubby/fat body and people mock her for her weight calling her fatty. Gabriel on the other side is a popular boxing champion following his dad steps, he stills has a fascination for classic music but due to the enviorement and people he lives with he completely shuts down that passion to pursue what people tell him to pursue.
I get that rock and metal are both portrayed as evil a lot, but I grew up with it, and a lot of rock/metal musicians are actually quite wholesome or at least decent people IRL (ie Lemmy Kilmster, George Fisher, Rob Zombie, Dave Grohl, Freddie Mercury, etc.)
Here I think it more comes down to "any other type of music is evil in a movie named after one type". If you watch something like "Rock'n roll high-school" or "school of rock" the bad guys listen to other types of music. Metal and rap usually get the villain role in movies like this because they stand out a bit more. I'm a long haired metal guy and I don't beat up people who likes different music then me, I don't think I even met someone that stupid. Politics and religion is what usually starts actual fights.
@@loke6664 I also think it's hilarious that they spend as much screen time as they do setting up the whole reggaeton vs Rock thing but they don't really bother representing reggaeton well at all. Not that I guess they really could if they wanted to keep this fairly "PG" I guess though. Still I can imagine why people were pissed at this movie how dare they call it that and then it's used as a very thin plot gimmick.
True that lol. Growing up used to think Hard Rock Groups (and other genres) were these hard badasses only to grow up and find most are pretty nerdy off stage.
I mean the whole idea of rock is to be extreme and crazy sometimes violent Rock is the anti wholesome music of jazz and disco music But not quite evil that’s why liked when the movie trolls world tour made the rock trolls good guys at the end Again not an amazing movie but honestly a good movie I like to imagine that the rock trolls where sick of being portrayed as evil so they went all out being evil It’s a little something
Being a latina (altough not colombian) and watching saber-ho revivint this movie being able to understand everything is gold. Hope that you'll review more latam animated films.
Your translator went above and beyond. I've heard of anime doing the multi-colored subs, too, because at times there'd be multiple voices overlapping and/or characters who sound alike interrupting each other so viewers would get confused.
GRACIAS MIKO POR AYUDAR CON LA INVESTIGACIÓN, realmente un trabajo esplendido creado con tu ayuda y la de los demás colaboradores, se siente increible ver un video donde saberspark y miko hayan trabajado juntos
The thing about calling someone chicken. I get why the translator choose to use the word cgicken, but in spanish we say "gallina" to call someone a coward. That means hen, so a male chicken calling another male chicken gallina makes sense as its calling him a girl un addition to a coward.
I guess the stepbrother called him "gallina," which literally means hen. In Spanish-speaking countries, the rooster is a symbol of bravery, while the hen symbolizes cowardice. In the Spanish dub of "Back to the Future," for example, Griff's line "What's wrong McFly? Chicken?" is translated as "¿Qué te pasa McFly? ¡Gallina!".
I was hoping for a stepsibling redemption arc, where their evil stepbrother turns out to be a pretty nice kid who is just acting out from his father's mistreatment and manages to befriend his stepbrother and cousin and then teams up with them to help his father's downfall.
I watched the movie some time ago and in the end he DOES turn out to be much nicer. He didn't even want to become a fighter either just like Gabriel. Instead he wants to be an astronaut and Gabriel is supportive of him. So while he isn't really involved in stopping his dad, he DOES stop being an asshole.
My brain kept trying to make this Hamlet. Uncle Claudio (Claudius) killing the dad, marrying the mom, encountering the weird robbers on the journey even though it doesn't matter at all, the end fight that should be avenging his father but kind of drifted away from that at some point... it's not Hamlet, not even close, but I couldn't stop thinking how much better and more unhinged it would be as chicken Hamlet
Cleopatra is a terrible example for a strong woman she couldn’t protect Egypt and had to look for a dude and his army to help her (Cesar). A better example would probably be Hatshepsut who sponsored a trade expedition that brought Egypt a golden age. 20:39
As someone who watched a shit ton of soap operas and telenovelas with my grandmother and mother, sometimes the villains are just like that. They are evil and they want to see the main character without nothing in the end and it annoys me everytime because if you compare what the main character did to them, the things they hqve already done are enough but no. They wanna destroy them just because.
Portugal telenovelas have a few examples of that, but its usually abit tamer in some cases... its still fucking hilarious when someone has a problem and wants to ruin someone just becuase of a misunderstadning or trivial acident.
My abuela loves to watch telenovelas, so I’ve seen enough of them to say that the clip of one of them you showed accurately represented what goes on in a telenovela every five minutes.
The mom marrying the evil guy reminds me of movies where the MC's bully is dating their crush, and it's like "so the girl saw this dude being an abusive psychopath to other people and thought that was attractive? but also the movie wants me to think she's still a cool, sympathetic person?" It just kind of takes it as a given that that's pretty natural.
That is one of the most annoying tropes in movies and shows. Even if the bully is just friends with the crush character, it's still bizarre to think they would be on good terms. Especially cause these bully characters are often written to be very obvious and open about bullying people, so others around them can't use ignorance as an excuse. Of course they can still grow and change, if that's what it's building to, but still.
Instant and absolute respect when Saber said that HE PAYED A TRANSLATOR for the English subtitles. I mean, he already had my respect but this cements it. Also, poor translator that had to suffer while watching this monstrosity 😂 Oh well, work is work!
SABERSPARK GOT RIPPED OFF! The character Gabriel is mad to be called "Gallina"= FEMALE chicken! )"Gallo" is male chicken!) It's like someone called Saberspark an "e-girl".
@@RabbitzanBet you didn't even watch the actual movie! It's an awesome movie with lots of likeable characters, and a fun, unpredictable plot! Nitpickers should calm their tiddies and Disney should take notes!
If you are interested in Latin American animation you could talk about "Bolivar El Heroe". Not only is infamous for being bad (it is considered an animation equivalent to The Room), but also it is Colombia first animation film, was shown in theaters despie its (lack of) quality, it has historical characters with unatural hair colors as well its own fanfic worthy original characters, has bloody scenes despite being aimed at kids, and despite being colombian it can be only found with the mexican dub, as the original dub is lost media. The production of the film is also surrounded in mystery. The film is availbale in youtube, at least in spanish.
Yep I noticed the animation was better than expected., But its so weird how Latin (and tbf German speaking) cultures always seem to create the most deeply alien logic storylines in their cartoons. Italy is still the reigning champ for their Titanic ripoffs...; but like Gabriel's late father; this movie was a contender. I've never been half as deeply confused by the plots of Anime or Slavic made animations as I routinely am by cartoons from central europe or latin america for some reason. Animation is decent, but plot usually gives me a headache.
@@anasevi9456 The motivations and whiplash inducing changes to are what drive me nuts. Also someone else mentioned this is basically a weird version of Hamlet. That absolutely destroyed my brain when I realized they were right.
As a South American, is Saber really asking why that body type is common in Latin American media? 😭😭 Sir have you seen our women? Obviously not ALL of us are curvy bootilicious goddesses (tho we all goddesses, love yall), yall was late to the party simping for post-butt-job Kim K in the 2010s. I literally did not know until I was a teenager that in American media when women say "does this make my butt look big" or insunuating they had a big butt meant they were fat in a derogatory way.
if i had a nickel for every time "FAT SHAMING MOVIE" was on the thumbnail of a Saberspark video, i'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice
@ramonandrajo6348 There was a Thai/Philippine (iirc) animated Snow White movie that had a plump main female lead that becomes lean when she puts on a pair of magical shoes, as well as seven heroes cursed to be short ugly dwarves unless out of sight of other people, including each other.
there's a Norwegian animated movie called Titina. It follows the dog of the engineer who designed and piloted the first successful expedition to the North pole. It's pretty funny, very pretty, and has some strangely trippy parts to it. Might be worth taking a look
When I was a kid, me and my mom were in the Salitre Plaza mall in Bogotá and I remember a teenage employee of the cinema handing out promotional material for Regue Chicken. I told my mom that I wanted to watch it but she told me that it looked "too adult" and prohibited me from watching. Years later, I watch it and, yeah no, I understand her concerns now, I dodged a bullet 💀 The animation in the dance scenes looks nice tho
I am Latina and I only want to say two things. 1. Excellent video! I have been a fan of yours for a long time and I was excited when I saw that you were going to review this weird movie ^^ Also im so happy to see that Miko contribute a little to this video, I love her channel! 2. Don't worry about your pronunciation, what you said in Spanish was well understood and personally the 'gringo' accent seems adorable to me JKASJA Greetings from Venezuela!
I know this is Columbian, and npt Brazilian, but the parallel of dancing to fighting actually fits well with the Brazilian martial arts capoeria. Gabriel's fight at the end definitely feels a lot like capoeria, as his fighting heavily used acrobatic movement as well as kicks and sweeps.
@@samy7342 Which means functionally nothing. If two people get married, and each of them has a sibling, there's nothing incestuous about it if those siblings hook up. And this is a more distant relationship than that would be.
It doesn't surprise me that Saber points out early in the video that Colombian animation has a fascination with women drawn with thick hips and curvy bodies, and then says "yeah i need to watch more of these" at the end, we see you Saber. Good job, really enjoyed the review, and glad you've found another one that seems to have been reviewed poorer than it is.
I'm pretty sure the fascination extends to just the entirety of Latin American culture, not even just animation or Columbia. I mean, Brazil literally invented new ways to show off ass and thighs.
@@warbossgegguz679 Of course it doesn't, He's only covered 2-3 things involving latin american culture, im just listing two opinions he shared in the same video and connecting them in a way that feels appropriate for the Saberspark-community
Liked the video. Made me laugh how hard you focused in the step cousin thing even though they no immediate blood relation. I mean, lets be real. That’s like shaming a couple because they found out 200 hundred years ago their family shared some ancestry. Which i feel is probably 90% of all relationships haha
Pretty much 100% actually. Vsauce made a great video a long time ago called We Are All Related but to sum it up, we're all cousins. You reading this? You are my cousin. In fact the genetic distance between two people gets shorter and smaller the closer you are IRL. factors like being the same ethnicity, living in the same country, same state, same town, etc. Vsauce explains it better than i can so go check it out. But yeah I don't get Saber's hang-up on the step cousin thing.
I've genuinely never understood this obsession with female thinness. My friends girlfriend is unemployed, has cheated on him multiple times (they're first kid isn't even his), and constantly causes shit in public that she expects him to fix. Me and my wife on the other hand have been together since highschool, she's a nurse and literally saves lives weekly and honestly feels more like my best friend, yet my friend constantly goes on about how I could do better and uses his girlfriend as an example purely based on the fact that she's thinner
Some historical reasons for it, from a quick looking-up. • Symbol of wealth in the Renaissance era. Thin figures highlighted full, expensive clothes better. Also the corsets rich women wore and made them look thinner restricted their movement which implied she had servants to do the moving stuff for her. • In more _modern_ times, apparently a lot of it is also because fashion designers find skinnier models more practical to work with... which in turn leads to a vicious cycle where "skinny" and "fashionable" are interconnected, which leads skinny models to become even _more_ desirable in the fashion industry, and so on. So TL:DR seems to be, clothes made the mania.
Yeah, I felt it was better than typical Saturday morning cartoon American TV animation; the character designs really helped carry the day here. Saberspark noted some of the background characters were "looped," showing the same animation over and over again, so perhaps this is the cost-cutting he noted.
There’s a lot of talented animators in Colombia, the thing is that they work for international companies. Like my sister is a 3D animator that works for a local animation company, but she’s working right now animating a kid’s show for a US company.
@@hakichan94 If Hollywood ends up collapsing, I’m hoping that’ll give the rest of the world a chance to shine. Something good has to come out of this mess
My family is Colombian and Peruvian. This is absolutely a cultural thing. I know several people who grew up being called "the fat one" by RELATIVES. Thinness is one of the most important aspects of the beauty standard in much of South America - even more so than in the US.
my favorite part of the designs is how the chickens can fluff up their feathers but they usually look like they have smooth human skin so whenever the feathers happen it looks Odd. anyway you should watch una película de huevos i hear it is quite good
...step-cousin? Uhhh...let me get this straight...His Mother remarried and the girl is the other guy's niece right? Uhh...there's literally no family blood between Gabriel and Violetta. This gets a pass.
@bitviper3430 I personally and respectfully disagree, as growing up together might be a factor but isn't the be all end all as many people tend to think it is.
@@LeoSmashRoyaleI agree. I think if they considered each other siblings while growing up alongside each other, then it'd be just as bad as blood siblings being in a relationship, imo.
@@ww3196 Did you mean *dis*agree because you just disagreed with the guy. He said growing up together makes it worse but not that bad, you said it makes it just as bad as blood siblings.
@@neerGdyahSYou seem to be wrong as well just a bit, Leo didn't say that it was worse, only that its a factor, unless you are referring to viper that is
One thing to point out, in Latin American countries having a motor bike is quite common and certainly not restricted to “cool” people. Quite often the first license a lot of people get is a motorbike license.
What's funny about the dancing thing in this movie is apparently roosters do dance to attract a hen and to assert dominance in the flock. Also thicc hips and thighs don't automatically make someone fat. The fat shaming doesn't make much sense. Especially when there are characters that make her look like a stick by comparison.
I hate movies like this because they're never actually fat they've got the skinniest waists then the dumpiest of trucks and it's not even like a hidden underground appeal a lot of people like wide hips
It probably because the people directing still stuck in the early 2000's or before when women were actually shamed for having big thighs which is insane because that's like a positive for femininity. That's why I just don't bother listening to what others feel is attractive and what isn't because some of these people would have you believing a 12 year old girl is the hottest thing ever.... (pedophiles)
as a mexican I agree, although the english subtitles would ruin most of the jokes since the whole movie relies on the double meaning jokes known as "albur"
I have my own theory about the Fat shaming thing in the movie. Maybe the film was original meant for older audiences, much like the dramas it was inspired by, and it had more mature dialogue. Maybe the "Fatty" line was originally suppose to be something like "Fat-ass" (not that she is one but I can imagine the bad birds in the film call her that). Some time after production started and a few scenes were animated, it was decided to make the film more child-friendly (probably a producer's decision). The script was quickly rewritten and any mature lines were changed or censored, and scenes with "Fat-ass" were changed to "Fatty". Some scenes were also rewritten to match this change in writing, such as when the girl talks with the orphanage lady. The reason her design was not changed was because the film was too far into production and it would have been too expensive to change. Or maybe it could be as Saber said and the animators wanted to draw her like that instead of following the script. Who knows? Another great review.
As someone who lives in Venezuela, it’s absolutely annoying when shops and markets are playing reggaeton everywhere I go. It’s the only musical genre I don’t like at all.
Gabriel turning from skinny-Chicken-Little-geek into secretly-fit-almost-murderous-UFC fighter without any build-up is like the epitome of an incel revenge fantasy.
It might actually have worked if it was because he used to work out because of his dad's encouragement. Like he was Buff all along but wore long sleeves.
