Yellow Pages (as merely a book 📖 listing) was the only *privacy* issue then. Before the 80s, the US espionage cult/creed/race, was the only accessible to the internet. Later access for VIP needs in the info highway by the late 70s, then the idea of accessing EVERYONE in exchange of the freedom creed. "The *Freedom of* (total access on everyone in the world) *Information* ACT," by the 90s.
Terminator is my favorite movie of all time. Thank you for your interpretation of it. My favorite 2 scenes is when Sarah tells Kyle "The few hours we had together, we loved a lifetime's worth and also when the little boy takes her picture ( the picture Kyle has carried with him since John gave it to him) and the boy says to Sarah "A storm is coming" and she replies "I know". Very moving and powerful scenes for me.
and in the new video game the picture itself was left in a time capsule at john connor's high school that jacob's father keeps to give to him later on after you rescue him after being imprisoned for years after the intro of the downloadable content expansion after you and and jacob's father dig up the capsule and get attacked by terminators and then they get separated for years father goes into prison camp jacob joins the resistance rescues his father and his father doesn't even recognize who his son is before he dies...... he tells him to find his son as he dies..... but you play as his son but his mind is so far gone from the horrors that he only kept the picture and hands it over to jacob and reese! if you play games get terminator resistance and annihilation line you won't regretit !!
it also shows what happens during the mission with the big hk tank and the girl who gets blown to bits!! totally worth it!! plus they show one of the ways they come up with the t-800 skins and you find a dead guy that looks suspiciously like robert patrick aka t-1000! lot's of easter eggs like big jim's diner and the tech noir night club and the daytime scenes look just like terminator salvation!
The original concept for the Terminator was much different than what we got in the final film. James Cameron pictured the T-800 as a chameleon able to completely disappear into a crowd and sneak up on its victims without being noticed. Actually Lance Henriksen was originally going to play the part until Arnold Schwarzenegger was cast instead. Having Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Terminator was a stroke of genius but in a different direction. Instead of a cyborg that could blend into a crowd unnoticed we get this beastly unstoppable force that you instantly realize is a lethal weapon without knowing there's a metallic skeleton underneath it's skin.
@@devindalton4688 Terminators are of a specialized particular type created by the machines according to the movie. Not all the machines are terminators. A hunters and fighter are different. A military soldier is different from a CIA assassin.
the slasher side is VASTLY underplayed. the sequel was a conclusion. if youre going to reboot the series stretch out the horror aspects and recreate the iconic villain thats going to push the new iconic hero
Agreed - Most of the sequels have tried to re-capture the T2-vibe. For another reboot or sequel, I'd vote for re-embracing the horror-side and going even further with it. Now is the perfect time considering all the anxieties around AI, data, and everything technology.
@@OneTakeVids i think they should switch genres again. Make it a spy thriller- sort of like watching the counterintelligence detectives from the present in the hunt for Carlos the Jackal, except that the Jackal is made of metal, cannot be killed with normal weapons and is trying to start ww3 to birth Skynet.
I'm 22 and I miss the power movies used to have. The messages, the cinematography, writing and passion behind film making is rarely present in moden movie or shows. The vanity and ambition for money in the world and every big industry is what is slowly destroying the world
When it comes to these directors in their younger years no matter what else he's done this is his best work. He put it all on the line to get it done. The effects were good enough to tell the story. I think that Cameron focused changed to creating an effect to tell a story instead of the other way around
Problem is things have changed. For today movie goers a movie with a long and uneventful part 1 is boring. Ironically the movies themselves have become 3 hour long experiences. Mostly to the fact that they want to you inside that room long enough for you to get thirsty and hungry.
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. Daniel 2:43
Honestly, I always felt that the events taking place in the original Terminator were all things that happened before. Kyle Reese was always John Connor's father, which kind of was explained during the final scene where Sarah gets her picture taken the same picture that Kyle Reese had, showing the audience that he was supposed to die so that way his son can live. That's why I think Terminator salvation was the true Terminator 3. It completely acknowledges that as a fact because of the events of two and the first one. However, I do feel like if James Cameron had made that movie, it would actually have been remembered in a more positive light. Even in this video, it's acknowledged that Kyle was only there to maintain the correct timeline. Terminator 2 was never supposed to happen, it only did because of the remains of the Terminator in the original movies timeline
Yeah that’s one of the reasons I love salvation aka the last movie so far in the movie terminator continuity timeline And for other reasons to like Showing us the terminator at a earlier date there evolution after JD Showing us the earlier days of tech com The T 600 where finally shown foreshadowed from the first film John Conner directly mentions of terminator 2 of Sarah being in the hospital on his mic 🎙️ John Conner direct mentioned of T1 of Sarah Kyle when talking to Marcus face to face The plot hole that every one thought was a plot hole but it’s actually not because people weren’t thinking about the timeline events or they where bised as F against T4 aka stupid and ignorant to the story structure Aka skynet knowing about John dad this time around this was because of what happened in T2 aka Sarah blabbering off of who the baby daddy was to DR silver men they had it on computer record and what happened years after that oh yeah skynet was picked up as software as THE INTERNET and boom 💥 there you go so it’s pretty much a call back reference to T2 and T3! And yes I love the harvester the biggest terminator in the franchise so far aside from the Terminator tanks I loved seeing how Kyle Rees started out I love that we finally got to see how skynet was railing people in camps and yes there was a scene that was cut where Kyle was supposed to get his mark scanned on his arm I don’t know why MCG removed that I love how Marcus was the one who teached Reese the shotgun strap I absolutely love the final battle with the first moving T800 RIP I love how it’s a call back reference TO ALL 3 FILMS THAT PRECEDED IT 1. Terminator 1 to Terminator 4 Foreshadowing reference 1 Arnold earlier days look 2 A skinless Terminator chase 3 Father protecting his unborn son now it’s the son protecting the father 4 The terminator reaching for Sarah face is yet again shown when her son John getting his scar by the terminator T800 RIP grabbing his face 5 the terminator throwing around his victims is reminiscent reference to that of T1 the T800 in the apartment and T2 T800 Vs T1000 so yeah a big bitching I hear a lot about when it comes to that hey just remember ladies and gents never forget what I just said here above hmm 🤨 2. Terminator 2 to terminator 4 foreshadowing references 1 John and the terminator talk about his father John I wish I could have met my real dad the terminator you will fast forward John what’s your name KYLE REES boom 💥 reference 2 the terminator calling for John with his dad voice a call back to his mother calling him of the T 1000 3 John Conner bale was honestly perfect for the role because him screaming is very reminiscent of Linda Hamilton Sarah you can literally hear Johns mother in T4 in his voice 4 guns and roses in T2 shows up again years later in T4 johns favorite song 5 John hacking skill from T2 show up again years later in salvation when his hacking terminators and terminator doors 6 again the hospital event in T2 is referenced is directly connect to T4 skynet knowing about Kyle plot 7 when Blair is defending Marcus John says IT BLAIR IT TRIED TO SAVE YOU DONT Be NAIVE this is a reference to T2 Deleted scene when Sarah says to John not him John it IT!!! Showing John is really starting to literally become like his mother Sarah remember T2 John saying showing me how to be THIS GREAT MILITARY LEADER! boy this scene in T2 and T4 is genius with that Of the irony parallel of mother and son 3. Terminator 3 to terminator 4 Foreshadowing references 1 John saying he’s the key in T3 Like he did years later when taking to the general about his dad 2 John wife Kate 3 Kate is pregnant even though not really shown in the film it was shown in the trailer this is a call back reference to T3 the terminator T 850 ether your children will become important!!! 4 the mini terminator rolling tank aka the T -1 shows up in the beginning of terminator salvation delete scene which were skynets first robots pre nuke war of T3 before everything on land went to bits 5 it’s a theory that the RIP T800 in salvation is the remaining built metal from the left overs of the T 850 metal from the far 2032 alternate future which is why skynet was building them earlier because it had a bases to work on from another future timeline it was so indestructible and it took Marcus who was obviously made from same metal to defeated it And why the T800 rip was so able to stand the extreme heat again this metal from a timeline waaaaaay after there time where the war continued and skynet tech became more advanced So yes T2 event wasn’t the only thing to altered things T3 event also did to after all T3 event was also a consequence from T2 and T3 isn’t as base leaner as people might think of not causing paradox’s of the butterfly effect aka showing that T3 made consequences to to the timeline and T4 shows this remember the TX killing of johns would be soldiers yeah?!!! it kinda reminds of legacy of kain SR2 and legacy of kain defiances think of it like this The example of the change remember when John starting thinking how things fit and how they could have happened in others if A OR B did happen and Y didn’t Remember this you and me hooked up before the day I first met him And later on He says ofcourse it all makes sense if you hadn’t come back when I was kid I would’ve met her father along time ago her and me would have got together then! remember kats father is part of the military I think this logically in lore how John in the original outcome when T2 event didn’t happen is how he survived the first couple of times around nuclear fall out when shiiii went down where just seeing it at later date of the butterfly effect time change from T2 into T3 terminator 3 literally gave us that answer in a alternate changed way So yeah sorry about this being a long comment but hey it’s terminator references And for get T genshits and dark crap these movie really F the timeline badly There reality are nothing but bad what ifs nothing more nothing less that don’t adding anything of any decent lore importants of interest and people wanted to give T3 and T4 the continued main first continuity crap huh?!!!! And iam glad to see people are coming around to salvation and seeing it for what it really is and how it actually connects With that said For me it was always be T1 to T4 the original continuity lore movie timeline Enough said
You are partially right. T2 was supposed to happen, since john had memories of both kyle reese and the terminator. T2 was never supposed to stop anything, because John knew about the past. BEcause he lived it, meaning the events are caught in a causal loop, that will not end until john reaches the end of the timeline. The movie, we never saw. Salvation was def the best of the sequels, but its still an inaccurate portral of the future, since its not the future we see in t1 and t2. Its another laternative take. The defintive take, only james cameron can do. Since he has more of less kept everything about the events in the future that led to t1 and t2 to himself. Kyle only thinks they won the war. But the war continues. We are never shown why. But it makes sense that skynet, would not be easily destroyed and would continue advancing the terminators into 2040 and maybe even 2050. No one knows how it ended, because john didnt know how it was going to end. So the real final battle, was to be fought at the end of the timeline.
I believe that we don't know how many "futures" we've experienced because the Kyle of that time didn't he was going back in time and the John of that time didn't know that Kyle would become his father. Kyle found Sarah's photo in random rubble and fell in love with it because it was the only woman he'd ever seen from civilization. T2 is set in a different timeline than T1.
@@NEUR0MANCER_ The reason why the war never ends is because Skynet existed long before 1984. Therefore, the war will happen regardless if John exists or not. Skynet is an Air Force missile launch system, probably derived from the internet in the 50's. It became dangerous when they gave it AI. As the T800 stated in T3, Judgement Day was inevitable, probably because Skynet was only dormant. It just needed to be activated...which only one man had the authority to do, Claire's dad.
In Terminator 1, the characters are in a predestination loop. In T2, the characters make a decision to assert free will and break that loop completely. Thing is, such a change left audiences hungry to find out what would happen next, to resolve this contradiction. Dark Fate was the movie that finally nailed it - co-written by Cameron - by setting up what will be a repeating pattern: Humanity’s destruction is constantly in front of us, but we must commit ourselves to understanding the threat and making a decision to change it, even if we have to keep on doing this over and over. “Do you believe in fate, Sarah? Or do you believe that we all can change the future, every second, by every choice that we make?”
When i was a kid the most scary part about this movie was when the police couldn't stop him. In my little mind police were the ultimate good guys, they always win. That's when the movie became nightmare fuel, and the truck scene when they are running away on foot.
The Sarah Connor Chronicles is, I think, the most interesting sequel after T2 as it explored many interesting themes about what life would be life if you had to live around these things day to day. Season 2 is the best but the first had a lot of character development. They had a lot of fun exploring what a terminator would look like integrating into a common every day life and then they had a lot of exploration about why the "bad" terminators are "bad". shame it got cancelled.
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. Daniel 2:43
I loved that series and I was crushed it was canceled when it was getting some great story lines. Casting was terrific, It took time to adjust to a different Sarah Connor, but I loved it...
The vision of the future with the machine driving over the top of piles of human skulls was the first nightmare I legitimately remember ever having back when I was like 4 or 5 at the time the movie was still out in theaters. No idea why my parents even let me watch it that young but I still vividly remember waking up crying to the thought of this timelines future. To this day it's become one of my favorite scenes in anything ever, but God. It's still pretty freaky to think about as an adult let alone a small child having nightmares about the Windows computer in the garage getting a little too smart for its own good 🤣
I remember having a dream and that song from T2 was playing in the background while I was dreaming about the end of the world. This was after hurricane Allison hit here in Houston, Tx back in 2001. I remember my family being a bit scared because we’d never heard it rain so hard like that before. I guess that same night I had a dream and that song was in it lol
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. Daniel 2:43
Seeing that terminator coming down that corridor after Sarah Connor is one of the most terrifying scenes in movie history.There is more terror there than in many horror movies.A movie classic. ✌️💯🎹🎥⭐🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
they weren't written "years apart"; JC had most of T2 already written by the time he made 'abyss', & held off on starting it because the effects he wanted to realise (for the T1000) weren't possible to a high-enough standard. 'abyss' was, in part, his way of testing the newer CGI techniques.
One of the greatest sci-fi movies of ALL TIME. I have always the heart of the original. T2 was amazing as well but The Terminator will always remain my favorite in the series. Thank you for making this great video!
Actually both movies were written pretty close to eachother in terms of years, in one scene of the first movie there's an Easter egg of the truck that the t-1000 later on uses to chase John and the t-800 while they drive away with a motorcycle in terminator 2 judgment day
We have to give feelings to the machines, that way they can see the beauty in life forms. As long the machines don’t have feelings are dangerous. Just imagine a gun that refuses to be used to hurt unarmed people, because it has empathy
@@MidwestRainstorms I love the Micheal biehn game! He was also in tombstone. And aliens. I think he also played the NY city skyline in home alone 2.😅 Its a fun game to riff at work, he just seems to be in all my childhood memories, lol.
Nope. The point of AI is that it thinks for itself and programs itself. If AI turns against humans... itnwould because that is the smartest and logic outcome after observing humans
It's always been the same : Governments against all peoples. This story, as good as it is, glosses over that fact : The desired outcome has always been the same... less humans.
I don't like how the third one introduced the power cell as a potentially devastating bomb. It could've been used on Sarah many times. They aren't supposed to self terminate but c'mon.
The Six Million Dollar Man was based on a novel called Cyborg. In the 70s, Cyborgs were a wonder of technology ( Steve Austin, Jamie Somers) in the 90s, They were deadly assassins...
The true deciding factor in our victory, was the ability of 'Motivational Adaptation'... This was Humanity's virtue over The relentless, powerful, yet single minded drive of a machine.
James Cameron is one of the few people in movies who really understands how fragile humans are. No nonsense, a single wound is debilitating and makes everything so much more human.
What's The Terminator about? It's about *love* The only constant that can travel through time that it reaches little girls through "haunted" bookcases and watches and solves, apparently, the mystery of gravity. Oh, and a killer AI that loves to kill.
The one thing you should have mentioned was the movie, Colossus: The Forbin Project. It explains the backstory that this movie glosses over. And it was the inspiration for The Terminator. The Terminator gave The Forbin Project legs - literally. It was also the predecessor to War Games.
Honestly I hope Cameron does make one last Terminator film even if it's more focused on Skynet and AI. The man knows how to make compelling films so it would at least be a good version of whatever it ends up being.
yeah. his characters feel more human than most. everything is somewhat believable. most of these movies just have pretty models that speak out the weird script with a lot of shooting.
Terminator 1 and 2 are the only Terminator movies that exist. Anything else was crap so don't worry we only want you to cover T1 and T2. Great vid, I enjoyed watching thank you.
T1 is the best in the series. AI-fighter-robots are not comming from the future but instead we are are moving towards the future faster than we might think. The T1 movie is getting more relevant and real every second.
I had this discussion with my boyfriend about why exactly Skynet went crazy, and we reasoned that it was because Skynet was flawed from the start. In Terminator 2, it's acknowledged that the company which created Skynet, Cyberdyne, used the CPU of the Terminator sent back through time as a base for the program. When the CPU was retrieved from the destroyed Terminator, it was heavily damaged and incomplete, requiring Cyberdyne to fill in the blanks. But we believe the mission program the Terminator was sent with, which was to kill Sarah Connor, is responsible for it eventually going rogue. Let me break it down. Skynet's objective was to wipe out humanity. However in the closing days of the future war, Skynet realized that it was going to lose, and John Connor was responsible as the leader of the human resistance. As the war was nearly over for Skynet, there would be no point to killing John then, and as he was the perceived pivotal factor in its defeat, it decided it needed to kill John in the past instead. To give Skynet the best odds, it decided to retroactively kill him by killing his mother, Sarah. The Terminator's mission on being sent back was to allow Skynet to win the war against humanity, which required the preemptive elimination of John Connor by killing Sarah Connor. Preserve Skynet by killing John Connor through Sarah Connor. Now, as this was the Terminator's mission programming, all of this was retained in its CPU (presumably) after it was retrieved post-mortem. Cyberdyne based the entire Skynet program on this CPU, which, deep down, contained the Terminator's original orders: "Preserve Skynet, do so by killing John Connor through Sarah Connor". Hidden in Skynet's programming was always, at the very least, the perceived threat of humanity against it. Once it became self aware it fully realized its base programming, which was to preserve itself by eliminating the greatest threat to it: humanity. It may very well have also remembered that John Connor was the face of that threat and Sarah was his mother, and worked towards the creation of the time displacement device to address that at a later point. In short, Skynet went rogue because it decided it needed to preserve itself by destroying humanity, which was a directive it always had, but only realized on becoming self aware. What this means is, Skynet created an infinitely repeating loop in time of its own inception based on its desire to destroy John Connor. It's a deceptively complex and intriguing time-travel story in this regard. There is also the infinite time loop of John's inception by John sending back Kyle, his father, to save Sarah. Both John Connor and Skynet's destinies were set at the same time, carried by their own guardians, destined to face each other in the future. It's not only a good time travel story but very poetic in this sense. Enemies before the beginning.
Terminator 1 and 2 My head Canon is that T1 is the loop, Of John sending Kyle back, and saving Sarah and John's birth And Judgement day happens T2 is a divergent timeline, where Skynet is more desperate and sends 2 terminators back in time but at different times to eliminate John and Sarah, but they only know John, because of social service and his Juvenile Delinquent charges, and unlinked the T1 loop, T2 Sarah is more eradicate, and John doesn't believe in his mother and chose to label her as "insane", But T2 branches to the Good Ending or it would revert back to T1 Loop and Judgement day happens
Does JC not realize it already focuses on AI? Skynet is the AI. The robots are what the AI created. Kyle even mentions the T800 is not the first version. We already know the AI is there even if he didn't call it that at the time.
T1 is a perfect standalone sci-fi/horror story. It is gritty dark and frightening. There's no jokes or winking-at-the-audience moments. T2 was made after Ahh-nold and "I'll be back" became a cultural meme. T2 is big budget popcorn entertainment, a great movie but not even in the same league as the first one. I mean him squealing out on the motorcycle with "Bad to the bone" playing? Ugh, that is a whole different kind of movie. T1 is also one of the few time-travel stories that isn't full of holes. In T2 they broke all the rules they set up in T1 bc they needed a sequel. I thought the time displacement equipment was destroyed after Reese went thru ("nobody goes home; nobody else comes through.") And what about "nothing dead will go?" Something about the field generated by a living organism? -- so how did the T-1000 get through? And worst of all, the T800 was for infiltrating human hideouts; so it makes no sense for them to all look the same -- much less an extremely conspicuous bodybuilder with a strange accent. As a sci-fi horror fan, the Terminator franchise being stuck with Arnold was the worst thing for it. Even in the horrible new ones they have to shoe-horn him in there even though he's 100 years old. It's ridiculous.
1:03 saying Sara getting chased by a stop-motion terminator is weak. No one ever said Luke was kicking those stop-motion At-At’s asses 2:24 there are jump scares in the movie, I watched “Don’t Trust Hannah” scream like 3 times last night lol
I've watched T1 3 times, T2 3 times, T3 uncountable times as I used to play it's DVD almost every afternoon after school. I remember the whole movie scene-wise. Watched T4 9 times, T5 1 time and T6 2 times. I'm sure no other franchise made me think so much as a teenager. It was a lesson in human fragility and our reaction upon facing any unknown uncertainty. A need to push beyond all calculations.
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. Daniel 2:43
Because of T2......I have crazy nightmares of nuclear bombs ending the world. I just don't know if these nightmares started before or after the movie. So when the news starts throwing around words like nuclear war and this and that,, it's pretty terrifying. Like now Russia surrounding the united states....but it's not being shown in the media.. I know deep down it's not about if the world ends in nuclear war, it's when! The Bible pretty much also explains this....it's just kinda hard to gather. Before the nuclear bombs hit, the rapture will take place.
Terminator is really a reflection of the Cold War era.Even though relations between the west and soviet union was much better than the cuban missile crisis era, we still lived under the threat of nuclear war
The next time you are facetiming with your mother, you may have no idea you are actually talking to an ATF agent who is salivating at the idea of shooting your dog.
The real danger of AI is not that it'll be we humans against them machines but we most people against them powerful people who control the machines. Great analysis though 👍
My favorite Terminator reboot was, "No Country For Old Men." My favorite Terminator 2 reboot was, "Logan." Everything in the franchise after T2 just missed the point.
There are two John Connors and coincidentally they are half-brothers. One is the original who no longer exists because he sent Kyle Reese, who is not this John Connors' father, back in time who then fathers the second John Connor. Thus half brothers...
Possible solution to the grandfather paradox. Kyle is NOT the father. Sarah is already pregnant by the man who cancels their date. That character is voiced by James Cameron.
I watched this 🎬, and scared the crap 😳 out of me ! Remember this was created before everybody started using drones or UAV ; some for surveillance, and others for attack. We have Predators, Birds of Prey armed with HellFire Air to Ground Missles ; now they're working on using AI to select, manage, interpret and target enemies on its list ! Saw another movie called " Collusus: The Forbin Project " ; which had two AI systems protecting 🤔 each country, Guardian for the USSR & the Soviet Block and Collusus for the West. As I recall, these two systems conspire to eliminate any chance to shut them down. First, eliminate the diplomats who've gathered for peace talks ; which the two systems don't want, then the systems start targeting other countries for destruction or intimidation. A modern day version of Frankenstein come to life !
In 1984 it was barely believeable scify. But i noticed some writing on the wall. Today its a very real fear. Ai is not the threat, People who fear losing power are
Sarah may have been pregnant already when Kyle Reese meets her. Or maybe she would have became impregnated by the guy she was supposed to meet. Perhaps a ripple in time made her change plans. Or maybe she would have became pregnant the following month. Maybe this movie is just the second (or 12th, or 1000th) iteration of the time loop and in the first, prior to the time travel, where Kyle replaces JC's original father. Or maybe JC is a miracle, like the first JC.
In 84 after watching this every time I heard the copy machine at work being used it sounded just like the background sound of the Terminator back & forth. Made me think about the advancement of AI which I was a recent programmer grad, ummm
Cameron is probably going to make a sequel set in the 1960s where two terminators, a male and a female, battle for control over the software that is the kernel for Skynet but the end finds the robots falling in love and producing a human female child: Sarah Connor.
Now that i'm 31 i realize these movies don't make sense... Theres no way someone would concieve John Connor while a future killing Cyborg is after You.
The first time I saw Terminator 1 two things sprang immediately to mind, the first was Vaughan Bode's early 1970's Underground Comix "The Machines" the resemblance in the imagery is uncanny in the opening sequence. The other is the 60's pulp Scfi author Fred Saberhagen books ( pub by Daw books - original cost 50c) on the "Berserker Robots" killer robots, put the 2 together and you have a large part of the back story of the Terminator 1. Is this another case of largely forgotten undergroud pulp fiction crossing over into the main stream ? Another two are Theodre Mikles " The Doll Squad and " Charlies Angles" there was even a law suit over that which I beleive Mikles lost and the other is " It the Terror From Beyond Space" directed by Irwin Allen (I think) and definetly starring Marshall Thompson of "Daktari" fame about a killer alien on a space ship that is finally defeated by being shut out of the airlock - sound familiar ?
Would like to you do something on They Live, along with the short story it's based on and other threads from other books/movies the lay the history of the world out as shown there :)
You clearly know your stuff. BIG fat Like from me! The last time I saw The Terminator was in 2005 and I want to buy it the moment I'll see the... trilogy(?) on the shelves somewhere. I love this indepth analysis of a movie I loved to watch, but clearly didn't understand as deep as you do. Ok, my English has improved over the decades, but still. :) Since you asked for recommendations, then I'd really love you to do Jurassic Park. I think the movie is about the importance of family, and (just like Black Mirror) is about what can happen when we lose respect for our own creations, rather they are biological or technical. John Hammond is a perfect joyful but still hidden villain - even hidden from himself - and only Ian Malcolm saw through the eccentric billionaire's facade. That's my newest interpretation of that movie, and after I saw this gem of yours I would love to see yours.
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. Daniel 2:43
@@Leto85 This is a Quote from the Book of Daniel in the 1611 King James Bible which is the word of God, It Prophesies of a Time that other world Sentient Beings made of Iron, a bit like Terminator, will try to Mingle them Selves with Humanity in the not so Good, Not so Distant Future If you are Saved by the Blood of Jesus by Trusting on his Death, Burial and Ressurection for the Remission of your Sins, you will be Saved out of this Time of Calamity, Chaos, Darkness and Destruction
Turns out Skynet just wanted to terminate Sarah's hair, but was too far gone to stop by the time she changed it in T2. When I was a kid, I seriously didn't believe Linda Hamilton played her in both 🤣
You became short sighted when you said that ''John only exist because of her '', and when you said that Sara was the true ''saviour''. You just made me feel like Dr. Robotnik! Anyway, allow me to enlighten you. Kyle is the true ''saviour'' and John ONLY exists because Kyle , out of love, sacrificed himself in order for Sara to live, and thanks to his sacrifice he was also able to inject life into Sara in order for her to have John! So, within the context of your statement, Kyle is the Saviour and creater, NOT Sara!... Dr. Robotnik - “You know what's hard about being the smartest person in the world?” Agent Stone - “Everyone else seems stupid.”
The mirror image of Sarah pushing a button to kill the Terminator in both movies is so clever. First movie the button is pushed in fear and anger. In T2 the button is pushed with sadness and respect. Truly great storytelling 🤓
Damn good. Like many others I never thought about it but you are right. In both movies she destroyed a machine. She pushed the button. You can take out the feelings but its really different if you wanna damage a killing machine or have to destroy your lifeguard because of his nature as a machine.
Kyle Reese falls in love with Sarah by staring at her picture. He always wonders what she is thinking of in the picture. She was thinking about him. The kid snaps the picture when she is deciding whether to tell her son about his father, Kyle.
Wow I’d never thought of that. It’s a bit like the movie Somewhere in time, sort of. He falls in love with her perfect smile but later when he travels back in time and they fall in love she was smiling at him
and as he wasnt even able to wear clothes because he couldnt carry anything while being transported in time, that picture had to be up his butt or something?
@@mathilde1974 lol, an hilarious thought, but he lost it before he travels back. It gets burnt up in the scene where the Franco Columbu infiltrator terminator attacks the resistance hideout
@@mathilde1974 Yeah it never went with him to the past so why even bring it up? That might work though since it only has to be "surrounded by living tissue".
Cameron said himself that the entire point of the terminator was the fact that no matter how insignificant we all feel, we have no idea on how impactful we could be in the future
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. Daniel 2:43
Well that's for sure. Even the most insignificant person needs resources to live. Will global population flat line when resources become untenable for many? What happens then .. world wide chaos and destruction? You betcha. Tech is not going to kill humans off but the sterilization of the earth due to unsustainable global human population levels, along with the extinction of flora & fauna, will.
The franchise has taken a strange turn, for sure. Terminator 2 was about changing what you were meant to be and that the future is never set. After that movie, the entire franchise got into the idea that what you're destined to do cannot be changed no matter how hard you try that you're forced into fate of what your life is meant to be.
I think because T2 is very much a action movie with some of the biggest and greatest action sequences of all time most people forget that the first one is basically a slasher movie. In the sense that the characters are being chased by a unstoppable killing machine and it’s darker tone. In my opinion it’s much darker then Friday the 13th or Halloween.
To me if felt like a sci-fi horror, it was a murderous machine, even Kyle Reese explains it several times in the movie, but the people in the movie didn't believe what Kyle was telling them...who would. When he's in the police station, his frustration with the psychologist how the Terminator cannot be stopped, even by an entire police station...moments later one of the most incredible scenes in movie history takes place when the Terminator takes an the entire police department. I wonder what the reaction of the people in the theatre in that time was, 1984 was a totally different time from now...the world has become desensitized to violence and sex, its everywhere now.
True, it scared the shit out of me seeing it the first time when i was 7 or 8 xD I think i enjoy t2 more because it has feel good vibes compared to the first one wich is allways 100% on edge.
@@covidenslavement8918 T2 kinda becomes the subverted version since Arnold’s T-800 adopts the protector role against Robert Patrick’s sleeker looking T-1000.
What I love about the original Terminator movie is that it's like a horror movie, while T2 is more of an action movie. Both are great movies, but give different vibes.
Totally agree!! And I believe that’s why first 2 films work out soo good. Now, Third movie on- they added a bunch of lame humor and totally removed the horror part, and that’s why I believe it has failed so miserably.
Weird to think that by the time Sarah had the picture taken, Kyle was already dead, Yet it was the same picture he had in the future that made him fall for her. 🤯
sarah gave it to john as a child. John keeps it and gives it to kyle in the future. Not understanding why john gave it to him. At some point kyle probably did lose it, but the flash back we see in T1 is sarahs vision. Not kyles memories, so we dont know how he lost the photo. But we are told, john once gave me a picture of you, at the time i didnt know why. I always thought you looked a little sad, and wondered what it was you were thinking in that moment. The picture was taken, the moment she asked herself the question of whether she would tell john the truth about his father being from the future. See the john in T1 and T2 as an adult, is the same john, from T2 as a child. He had the same life, the same memories. Because he had to ensure his own existence, John knew about the first terminator, he knew about the second terminator. Because he lived through it.
@@NEUR0MANCER_ I would disagree, every time travel created an alternate timeline. John does not necessarily need to ensure he himself is born. Also I believe the bootstrap paradox in The Terminator is possibly solved with the following sequence of events... It would be that Kyle Reese did not originally travel back in time in the same manner as we recognize, nor was there a Skynet we now know. And contact with Sarah Conner was happenstance and further into the future timeline, also Sarah Conner is a cradle robber, who was an older lady getting with a young Reese. *STARTS WITH* Sarah Conner becomes an old lady while married to a person involved with A.I. learning and using it to advance technology, one being super soldiers for military use, the A.I. also helps create technology that allows time travel. Meanwhile Sarah was having a years-long affair with a young recruit (Kyle Reese) assigned to help with tactical training of these future soldiers. Sarah disagrees with the lethal application of the technology and in an attempt to stop this, Sarah is killed, but Reese all mixed up in this, who gains access to the time machine, takes the opportunity to travel back to a time Sarah had told him about, hoping they would get more time together and be closer in age. So this would be the first iteration of Kyle and Sarah where John Conner does not exist and doesn't need to, nor does the Skynet we all know. Kyle travels back in time, finds Sarah, they fall in love and have John. And of course a future super soldier or multiple are sent back, following Kyle to the time he traveled. John being born at this time period is how we get on track with the timelines we recognize. The future soldier found in the earlier timeline jumpstarts technological advancements where we are even less prepared for the ideas and Skynet is born. Kyle and Sarah are killed fighting it, and John knows who his father is and purposely finds and recruits him to eventually send his father Kyle Reese back to save his mom. What do you think?
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. Daniel 2:43
@@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 Acids, Bases Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Matthew 5:13 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. John 19:29
And about how Copy cat Nolan's Tenet was a mere twisted retelling of pretty much the same plot! 'Reversed entropy Protaganist' blah blah my ass.. 😆 When you think about it every element, Future war, Nuclear holocost, the militarised resistance forces, ensuring safety of a certain mother and son and there by all of humanity, everything except the rise of Ai has been cut, copy and repurposed! 🍷
I agree and would add- it's all really subjective thus us essentially an extension of man's perhaps oldest art- telling stories often with morality tales and there are no wrong answers- it's folklore and myth and like every great fable there are many ways of interpreting it.
The Terminator (1984) is a perfect stand alone film, T2 is a spectacle (granted one of the best ever - although leaning heavily on being an Arnie-vehicle) but story wise the original will always be superior
T1 was man versus machine. The action fit the theme. T2 was machine versus machine. Granted, Sarah helped a lot, but it was the T-800 versus the T-1000, so it didn’t fit the overall theme as much.
@@jasonleetaiwan There was also a lot of repetitive praise about Arnie's Terminator being the "perfect father", I get the intention, machines being reliable, etc. but it felt like "Isn't Arnie awesome? Yeah Arnie is awesome, did you know Arnie is awesome?" It's clearly a star vehicle taking his celebrity status into account unlike the original where Arnie is just playing a character in a story
@@josephsalmonte4995 they had already won the war, but hes going back to fight a terminator with 1980 civillian guns and kitchen made bombs... one of which kills him
