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What to do if you're about to get FIRED. Afraid you're about to lose your job? Here's a step-by-step guide on how to protect yourself if your employer terminates your employment. This also works if you're thinking you may lose your job or get laid off.
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@christineribone9351 8 месяцев назад

If you're spending all your free time documenting the bad things that go wrong at work, leave. It's a toxic place.

@stephaniezinone8238 8 месяцев назад

Another sign of a toxic place. You have no free time

@TrevorBelmont1476 8 месяцев назад

I think of all of the bad things that are wrong with work while I’m there, I’m always uncomfortable being there and feel stressed and unsafe while I’m there, and I imagine bad things that could possibly happen usually they involve losing my temper and screaming at them or just dying God Forbid somehow while I’m there. I should just leave immediately right? Also, believe or not, I’m writing this because of your comment not for anything else.

@christineribone9351 8 месяцев назад

@@TrevorBelmont1476 If you have a big bank account to not worry about being unemployed, then you can quit any time you want. But if you're not in that position you will need to make an exit plan. Update your resume, start looking on the internet for job opportunities, interview a few places to see what's out there. When you are working on an exit plan those worries of yours won't bother you as much. You can leave strong without jeopardizing your livelihood. Usually, your manager can tell that you're reaching out to other companies because you're taking time off to interview. Then it become a race to the finish line. Some companies are good at offering interviews during lunch or after work. Good luck.

@jaydenp4975 8 месяцев назад

Exactly.

@jon6309 8 месяцев назад

I agree especially when other coworkers are making the same or similar mistakes but are not documented as well. If a manager ever told me that I will bring up that if they don’t want a lawsuit for possible discrimination everyone in the department needs to be monitored for the same mistakes and face the same consequences!

@batsy941 8 месяцев назад

Even with regular meetings, boss lies to you openly. DONT believe anything but your gut feeling which never lies.

@rockstarofredondo 8 месяцев назад

That is 100% true.

@rikadew 6 месяцев назад

Yes! Manager tells you one thing but the emails they send to their colleagues say differently

@BillyBobDingledorf 6 месяцев назад

If it's a layoff, don't assume your boss knows what's going on. Front line managers are often out of the loop too.

@batsy941 6 месяцев назад

oh he knew. Layoff wrapped in baseless allegations. Ended up in court with employer paying@@BillyBobDingledorf

@leverage1990 4 месяца назад

Yeah, intuition may be wrong sometimes, even embarrassingly so, but at least you can always trust your gut to tell you the truth with the best of its abilities.

@christinamorales6887 3 месяца назад

Sometimes it’s so bad and it is affecting your mental health and you need to just get out.

@MrJonathanhidalgo365 5 месяцев назад

I was on a pip and I gave my job a two day notice. I started a new role this monday 🎉 I didn’t feel bad at all. Fuck these companies. Always look out for yourself

@Ruab 8 месяцев назад

If you are on a pip, you are 99% out the door already. They just haven't made the appropriate paper trail. I was put on a pip 3 times at an employer, idk why I stayed there as long as I did. I was eventually fired for insubordination for not setting up office chairs for staff - I am a senior cloud engineer, I work in IT. I don't install office furniture. The best thing I ever did was say no to those bullshit requests - it does get better.

@ilovemytribe 8 месяцев назад

Unreal. I hate the power dynamics in the workplace...

@Ruab 8 месяцев назад

the dynamics are "fuck you, you do what we tell you to do - even if you are a skilled employee we will take advantage of you if we deem fit. @@ilovemytribe

@llywrch7116 8 месяцев назад

@@RuabIf the power dynamics are that, then quitting is the best move. If you can afford to.

@allkindsamusicchick Месяц назад

And....guess who gets to stay?? LOW END....Zero Class....Bullies!!!

@workplacelaw94 8 месяцев назад

As an employment lawyer, I can assure this gentleman knows what he's talking about.

@abendiaye3330 8 месяцев назад

Also remember that HR is not on your side. They work for your employer and will confront you with bias. They are NOT impartial.

@asadb1990 8 месяцев назад

The best way to look for work when laid off is to pretend you are still working. Employers treat you much better.

@jtixtlan 8 месяцев назад

Hmm… I would not want to start with a new company with a lie under my belt. However, this is an interesting idea. Perhaps when they ask for a start day, you say you will need 2 weeks from the date the offer is accepted and they’ll assume you still work there.

@asadb1990 8 месяцев назад

@jtixtlan well im sorry but for a job myo morals are pretty flexible when im trying to feed my family

@campandcook3118 8 месяцев назад

@@jtixtlan companies start every job with a lie "we cant pay more for this role" and "management is open for your input"

@deplorablecovfefe9489 8 месяцев назад

They try to make you quit. You get all the crappy jobs, crappy conditions, crappy assignments, crappy hours and gaslight you about anything being unfair.

@dhunches 18 дней назад

Sounds familiar

@whitneyw.7919 3 месяца назад

If you think you’re getting fired, 90% of the time you’re right and there’s nothing you can do about it go look for other jobs

@dibuzzz3920 8 месяцев назад

Stumbled upon your videos when I was getting pushed out at work, videos helped me to remain level headed until I found another job.

@ALifeAfterLayoff 8 месяцев назад

Glad to help!

@ivearies4187 8 месяцев назад

I resigned and still got unemployment benefits. That is how bad my boss was and HR knew but CHOSE to ignore. Few months later, the boss was FIRED.

@uganda8956 8 месяцев назад

Most of the time the company is the problem not the employee. If you are put on pip just start looking for another job because you might end up been fired. In my experience it is companies with high turnover rate.

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

It's a good idea to read the reviews of said company on Indeed or Glass Door. You will not be shocked to find plenty of negative reviews from people who you never knew existed saying the exact words you are currently saying.

@francissmith6905 8 месяцев назад

The PIP is not constructed for you to be successful. The PIP is there to make you fail and give the manager and HR justification for your departure. If possible try to negotiate the PIPs goals so they are achievable. If you can’t restructure then just refuse to sign. Your fired anyway.

@tango-bravo 8 месяцев назад

If you want to ramp up your anxiety for fun, regardless of your current job conditions, put this video on loop and listen to it on 1.25x speed for several hours.

@KeatonIsFTW 8 месяцев назад

That would pair nicely with looking at your boss’s calendar for the next few weeks looking for suspicious hour long “busy” blocks and comparing it to HR’s calendars too!

@ALifeAfterLayoff 8 месяцев назад

RU-vid would love my watch time metrics!

@tango-bravo 8 месяцев назад

@@KeatonIsFTW lol! Either that or put another sad video on loop on another device on 0.5x for a few hours so you get the contrast

@allkindsamusicchick Месяц назад

@Vr4z1el 2 месяца назад

I learned that if you are under PIP its usually the boss who is initiating your termination and he/she wont help you because they want you to get fired. What the boss does in the background is he ghosts you, answers your questions without detail, just very "yes and no" answers, gives you less or no work, you basically feel like youre struggling to find work yourself to keep yourself employeed. You can feel the coldness.

@z-a3594 8 месяцев назад

I was told by a lawyer, when “at will” they can fire you for any reason, for no reason, or for the wrong reasons. Once you feel that you are a target start building the resume and try to get out asap.

@vladluteen2299 8 месяцев назад

Since companies have no loyalty neither do I.

@Milesco 8 месяцев назад

Well, just to be clear, they can't fire you for an illegal reason. (Not sure exactly what you meant by "wrong" reason, so I wanted to clarify.)

@Milesco 8 месяцев назад

@@vladluteen2299 Totally agree. Loyalty is dead, and has been for a long time now. It's a shame, but that's how the corporations apparently want it, so...

@rccc6598 8 месяцев назад

My company discriminated against me then put me on a PIP after I complained. I had great performance reviews up until that point. My coworkers made my work life hell, while the company did everything possible to set me up for failure. I documented everything and now pursuing legal action.

@Brenda-ny1gw 7 месяцев назад

What industry was that?

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

I can only wish you everything of the best

@HernTheHunter 8 месяцев назад

1. If you are talking with HR "Be very careful of what you say" My addition: Be very careful HOW you say it. 2. If you suspect you are going to be fired or are being railroaded, Get on that job search NOW.

@ALifeAfterLayoff 8 месяцев назад

Wise advice.

@deecee7042 2 месяца назад

I am being railroaded right now and this is crazy.

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

Don't even bother with HR, however caring they may sound. They are merely lulling you into a false sense of security know thy enemy. They are on the enemy's side - not you's. Do not be misled.

@aaronw8781 6 дней назад

I had been dealing with #2 for about a year and decided to enter the search. Landed a position closer to home with higher pay and better benefits. I’ve been made to feel more welcome and respected in one day at my new job than I did the entire time at my previous one.

@deecee7042 6 дней назад

@@aaronw8781 I read this right on time. I have good thing going at the company, but my manager and HR is railroading me from applying at any other spot in the company. So I guess I will have to leave and start over again at another company, which is the lesser evil of the two options. So glad it worked out for you!

@nickwcc9202 6 месяцев назад

For anyone on a PIP, start looking for a new job. Chances are, they are just creating a papertrail to fire you. Its quite rare to survive a PIP.

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

Too true. That's what PIP is for, and while you are busting your gut, twisting yourself into a pretzel, and turning the world upside down on its axis, your body is storing the anxiety in every cell and your central nervous system is gearing itself up for post traumatic stress disorder. Your home life is going to he'll, your self esteem is oozing out of your eyeballs into the corporate carpeting, your colleagues are treating you like you have developed leprosy and they are smugly sitting back watching the beads of blood drip off your forehead, knowing with certainty what the pre-written ending of your PIP review is going to say. I will leave you to draw your own conclusion.

@barco581 8 месяцев назад

I have seen other HR experts estimate that probably over 90% of people on PIPs are still let go. Great advice, do not quit!

@Pinkkermit17 3 месяца назад

I was put on a PIP and survived that, but I know I am still on the chopping block.

@BlueJayeButterfly 8 месяцев назад

I actually recorded the conversations leading up to the event. The issue was with my supervisor, and HR consigned what the supervisor said on everything. My supervisor was a covert narcissist. Other colleagues didn't trust her, but complied out of fear of getting fired. She was the type to smile in your face, then gaslight you in front of other people. I would've quit months ago after seeing how toxic the workplace was over time, but decided to "quite quit" to get them to fire me.... I was going to at least leave with a few unemployment checks, which is what happened. I should mention I escalated to compliance, which backfired because they reported everything back to HR, who was afraid of my supervisor. After I was gone, three other people on the same team. It was a karmic lesson I had to learn.

@grr986 8 месяцев назад

Do not record anything without notifying the other party if you are in a two-party consent state. Doing so in WA is a gross misdemeanor and you can actually go to jail.

@josepherhardt164 8 месяцев назад

@@grr986 Even if you can't record the convo legally, I, in a situation like that, would record it anyway, just in case things spiral down to the "If I'm going down, I'm taking you with me" level. Obviously in the vast majority of cases, those convos would never come to light. But if you wind up being falsely accused of sh*t, especially if legal issues arise, then you burn their asses. Of course, you wouldn't have to disclose the recordings as such--you could just write up the convos "based on your best recall of the matters discussed." They'll _know_ you recorded them and may think twice about getting too feisty with you.

@Milesco 8 месяцев назад

@@josepherhardt164 But just to be clear, illegal recordings can't be used in court.

@campandcook3118 8 месяцев назад

@@Milescono, but they can be used as notes for you and your lawyer, proove wo was present and can be leaked to Compliance agencies and the Media

@Milesco 8 месяцев назад

@@campandcook3118 Yeah, just for notes for yourself and your lawyer, that's okay, but I wouldn't leak them to regulatory agencies or the media. That's just going to expose you to criminal prosecution.

@sirreadsalot786 Месяц назад

Make sure you have a doctor to sign off for FMLA if it is an option for you or a family member you have to care for.

@shawnlane7016 3 месяца назад

This gentleman is correct. Keep records of everything. Anytime I got screwed I didn’t have written records. Also have an emergency fund set aside and updated resume ready to go.

@sexygeek8996 8 месяцев назад

Also remove your personal property from company premises because they might lock you out and throw everything away. If you have personal files on company computers (you shouldn't but we know it happens), delete those too. Delete search and browser history if they may contain things that make you look bad.

@crowmedicine3890 8 месяцев назад

Every breath you take, every move you make, I'll be watching you...

@lamar5803 8 месяцев назад

True 💯

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

With 20 microscopes, 20 telescopes, 20 of the most sophisticated listening and recording devices planted into your corporate phone. Every keystroke is recorded as you touch the keyboard, every website you visit, everything, and I mean everything is treated like you are on trial for High Treason. It's simply the "Discovery" phase of the trial, and regardless of how you plead, the verdict is going to be "guilty as charged".

@gerrykan3437 8 месяцев назад

Dear Bryan: Thanks for the post. I agree, it is important to let your employer fire you instead of quitting. It's a way to bide your time and get prepped while you look for your next opportunity. Out of curiosity how many of these firings you knew of (or handled) were really performance related, or when performance was used as a pretext. I guess by the time it comes to your desk, all that mattered was what was documented. I became suddenly stupid and was put on a PIP for one of my first jobs in an engineering consulting firm. The head of HR called me up and told me the PIP would not be used as grounds for termination. She also tipped me off that my boss hated my guts, unbeknownst to me. It was one of the rare moments HR acted on my interest and to my surprise she held her word.

@Understatedalways 8 месяцев назад

I documented, but it did no good at my former workplace when they believed the bad manager's lies of alleged wrongdoing by me. I had a great review in spring 2021. By fall 2021, all of a sudden, things were being nitpicked. Yes, manipulation and triangulation is key. My favorite gaslit moment was when the evil manager stated, "No one wants to work with you." Three others in my section quit before I did. Three Hispanic, and one Caucasian. The reason: the manager.

@Dweeble233 8 месяцев назад

While different than being fired, being laid off has the same result. If you find your boss is no longer including you in meetings or assigning you to key projects, thats a big red flag. Probe him or her by volunteering to join these projects and why you'd be a good asset for such. Their reaction or lack of will give you your answer. If you see if coming, take advantage of your free time to bolster or fill gaps in your skill set. There are certain applications that are difficult to get access to outside the company environment so take advantage while you have access and build your skillset.

@Jupiterxice 8 месяцев назад

Exactly never let them show you the door you leave them before they get you.

@nickr3441 8 месяцев назад

What kind of project does a walmart or mcdonalds employee do?

@bla7091 8 месяцев назад

in Europe, getting laid off/made redundant has a significant upside over leaving yourself. You likely get a few weeks or months of pay as opposed to nothing if you leave voluntarily. So if you're in Europe it can actually be good for you to get laid off if you have the next job lined up. Gets you a nice "leaving bonus"

@Jupiterxice 8 месяцев назад

I have simple answer: LEAVE or RESIGN it's no point playing adolescent and gaslighting trick of manager or job. Its not worth your mental health at all.

@midlifecrisis7888 8 месяцев назад

F that. Let them pay. I’m petty like that.

@llywrch7116 8 месяцев назад

That's great to do if you have the financial reserves to do that. Otherwise, you'll be facing bills you can't pay. Yeah, one more reason to live more frugally, & don't spend more than you make. If possible.

@Jupiterxice 8 месяцев назад

@@llywrch7116 or you can have a side hustle.

@carltoncoleman454 8 месяцев назад

I recently got fired and was so happy. Yes it is an income loss but I know where I don't belong. I've started back teaching part time, am on a small IT contract with an education company, and am learning digital marketing so I can start my own business. I was in Health Informatics with no clinical experience compared to my teammates who had on average 10+ years of nursing and health informatics experience so I naturally lacked self-confidence and was a cultural misfit. I ended up getting put on a 90 day PIP and had three write-ups within a 8 week period before being let go 9 days before my last day of my contract.

@crowmedicine3890 8 месяцев назад

I'm glad you got out of there. Good for you for not skipping a beat!

@batsy941 8 месяцев назад

same here I also prefered to be fired than resign. Why resign when you have done nothing wrong

@ReformedCitizen8939 8 месяцев назад

What a nightmare

@llywrch7116 8 месяцев назад

That is a weird situation to be in. Why would they hire someone who is not qualified for the job? If one has skills that balance that out, help them to fill in the gaps. If an employer doesn't want to do that, then don't hire the person in the first place! Doing that is not good in the long run for either the business or the person.

@batsy941 8 месяцев назад

@@llywrch7116 if only businesses and leadership had basic business acumen. Sadly those running companies arent even educated or qualified themselves

@vladluteen2299 8 месяцев назад

I've been let go twice. Both times without any improvement plan from leadership or warnings from leadership. Without any negative performance reviews. Without any communication that I wasn't meeting goals. Simply because someone in leaderships feels were hurt. I've learned to tread more carefully but often it can't be helped like when a humble manager was swapped for an ego driven prideful manager that can't handle any opinions other then his own. If I detect I need to be treating a manager like a royal highness while I grovel like a peasant, I'm finding a new job. Go where you are treated best. Where are these jobs where they try to work with you and help you grow as an employee for the long term?

@vladluteen2299 8 месяцев назад

Ive worked at companies where they kept employees for years, promoted them, trained them, even from intern to senior positions. What happened to these companies?

@Jupiterxice 8 месяцев назад

Exactly when you get to certain age in life your dignity does not come at a price for a paycheck. I rather leave with dignity and honor than them showing me the door.

@vladluteen2299 8 месяцев назад

@@Jupiterxice I'm think leadership in some companies has become delusional in their ability to hire shiny new replacements for cheap.

@Jupiterxice 8 месяцев назад

@@vladluteen2299 bruh.......exactly I mention this about how are you going to keep up talent when can't retain it. One manager said you're just a number. And realize that I have treat myself as a business like company does it self.

@francissmith6905 8 месяцев назад

It’s all about organizational politics and you will be out the door.

@vembrace 8 месяцев назад

I am yet to understand why employers think PIPs work (unless it is to just get rid of you). Once on a PIP, one's main effort should be on finding another position.

@ALifeAfterLayoff 8 месяцев назад

It's mostly for documentation purposes.

@user-ib6el7yx3m 8 месяцев назад

This man is truly a HR professional and he is the best on youtube

@ShawnC.W-King 8 месяцев назад

These are all great points and tips to take to heart, HOWEVER especially if you work in an "At Will State" which some companies love to take full advantage of... You can do everything and anything under the sun that is in compliance with the company, the job, your position, performance BUT as the term implies at any given moment "At Will", they can get rid of you for any reason at all assuming it's not under discriminatory reasons legally. It's a sh*t show out there; There's only so much hoop jumping you allow to happen to when you get to a breaking point and you say enough is enough.

@Jupiterxice 8 месяцев назад

I learned long ago that dignity does not come at paycheck. I rather leave with honor than stay with gaslighting of company not worth mental health.

@deanakalberg4540 8 месяцев назад

At Will States doesn't actually mean "for any reason." This is often what they want you to believe, not what the laws really states, thus why so many employment law attorneys stay in business 😊

@newagain9964 8 месяцев назад

Yup. At least with govt job they have to have cause to fire u. One of the very few things good about working for gov 😐 Unless you’re in a select civil service position. Then U are at will.

@uganda8956 8 месяцев назад

There has to be a law to monitor companies that abuse at will employment. If a company has a reputation of firing staff then they should be fined.

@jimkoney4200 8 месяцев назад

My advice is if your on a PIP in good times hopefully you can work through it. In bad times, your going to be fired. Your on their list and your not getting off. Get a new job and get out.

@Jupiterxice 8 месяцев назад

Exactly

@feudini1 8 месяцев назад

I have been on 2 PIPS and they both feel like they were going through the moves to show justification for termination. My advice is if you go through the PIP start looking. (I was on a PIP when I was the only person doing the job for 2 years which I was added on to help the person which left for another position)

@Jupiterxice 8 месяцев назад

@@feudini1 exactly... I was placed on PIP and I entertain it for week and half and left. I was overworked and mentality stressed. The burden ended when I handed letter resignation to them.

@Amy-601 8 месяцев назад

Sometimes if you’re laid off, and not fired for cause, companies take you back, if you have updated new skills to show case. Example: from working at a different company or doing a short course. You can always re- apply in 6 months to a year, to your old job if there’s an opening, provided you have something new to show. That is, only if you really like the company, but if it’s toxic, it’s not worth going back. Always good to split amicably, even during a layoff. - Amy

@dianaalyssa8726 8 месяцев назад

Had an hourly I lost, where the office narcissist was above me and smeared me. I hate her to this day. Toxic woman.

@samanthahollins2167 Месяц назад

Same thing happened to me.

@Dweeble233 8 месяцев назад

Great advice around documenting conversations. Of note of if you are using email for this, be sure to PRINT a copy and keep these off site. A former boss requested all of her staff to list her as a "delegate" in their company email. This essentially gave her the same access to your email that you have. Low and behold there was an issue and i had saved supporting documentation in my email folders. When I was to meet with HR and went to gather my supporting documentation, it was gone. No real mystery what had happened.

@ALifeAfterLayoff 8 месяцев назад

Super toxic behavior by that supervisor.

@ccreevan 8 месяцев назад

And if you have copies but they don’t and it ever went to civil court it’s proof of spoliation of evidence.

@crowmedicine3890 8 месяцев назад

So devious and underhanded.

@joecortizo 8 месяцев назад

Freelance till I die... Better off having clients than bosses.

@Milesco 8 месяцев назад

I couldn't agree more. 👍

@macobuzi 8 месяцев назад

Clients are your bosses!

@Milesco 8 месяцев назад

@@macobuzi No, they aren't. Yes you have to "keep the customer satisfied" up to a point, but they don't (and can't) manage you and tell you how to do your job.

@SIMCOMotorsportsTV 7 месяцев назад

@@Milesco F Yeah. For starters, becoming a freelance programmer or even an independent contractor driving medical supplies would be a decent way to be your own boss. Hope you're doing well with the indie scene since this is where I'm looking to go since I have had enough of the corporate IT BS.

@badbrain7163 3 месяца назад

Excellent advice. I did not do many of these things. I may have been able to salvage my position but I was not happy and took a passive approach…I got fired this week.

@user-lf7km8nr5d 8 месяцев назад

You have such perfect timing. I literally just found out a few hours ago that I'm going to be fired this month.

@CarlosValenzuela-sx9xb 8 месяцев назад

Good luck mate

@jackcarraway4707 8 месяцев назад

If your boss pulls you in to sign a PIP, tell them you need 24 hours to "go over" everything before signing. Once you're released from his/her office, leave anything belonging to your employer on your desk and walk off the job. The PIP is essentially them giving you a two weeks notice that you're getting fired and staying there is a giant waste of time.

@janetgrega5613 8 месяцев назад

If you are on a performance improvement plan, you are going to be terminated. They are just covering their ass.

@Yleski 8 месяцев назад

What does “PIP” stand for?

@jackcarraway4707 8 месяцев назад

@@Yleski Performance Improvement Plan

@kylehall6476 8 месяцев назад

Sometimes PIP can be a month or 2 depending on the job

@DerKommissar86 8 месяцев назад

Yes and no. I’ve had 3 PIPs (2 diff jobs) in my career. I accomplished all the goals the PIP set and I was good. But I ended up leaving each company for unrelated reasons (my choice). Some companies just throw around PIPs more “casually” than others s

@engineerahmed7248 8 месяцев назад

u skipped the most imp on: Get 1 person contact details who has +ve perception of u, willing to be your referee

@TheRagingUnprofessional 8 месяцев назад

Haven't seen the video yet, but one thing I would do is gather as much contact info from other contractors and companies you've built a relationship with during your time at your current company as they would have the highest likelihood to hire you since the position would probably be very similar to what you might be doing at your current company. Also, make sure you get as many emails as possible for follow ups if need be, inside and outside your current company. 🙏

@brookeparker9716 8 месяцев назад

Ironic that you would post this today. Today is the last day of my pip, and somehow I’ve survived. I started watching you the day I got it when I was spiraling. I’m glad it’s over. I have another year on my contract, and have to pay if I leave. Not sure what the future holds, but I’m glad to be done with it.

@PianoTribe 8 месяцев назад

Stay vigilant. It's never really over til you leave the company.

@eagleeyemind4800 8 месяцев назад

Tips for the topic of what qualifies for unemployment would be an excellent topic to hear more about. Thanks for all that you do, Bryan

@keithmarlowe5569 8 месяцев назад

It varies by state, but generally speaking you have to do something really egregious to be denied unemployment. I did have a very savvy business owner make it so I couldn't get it. They tried making me quit and I wouldn't. I was looking and planning on leaving, but I wasn't going to just up and quit. So they changed my position and reduced my salary. Since I refused and therefore quit, unemployment was denied.

@softinix9462 8 месяцев назад

If it reached that point just focus all your effort on finding a better environment. Dont waste time on your current company. That’s the only wise action you can take in this situation.. What’s the point of spending all your energy on a sinking ship?

@method341 8 месяцев назад

Imo, just quiet quit and work towards getting your next job and collect the paycheck while you can. Also, maybe you need a reference too so you dont want to antagonize too many managers at your current job.

@jtixtlan 8 месяцев назад

It’s very demotivating to realize that someone above your boss has tasked them with documenting against you to create a record that will support your termination. When you’re getting “follow up” emails that are not actually what happened. Reply to those with the truth, just the facts. Be respectful, positive, and not reactive. Print all emails, good and bad, and bring them home so if they terminate you and immediately clear your email, you’ll have evidence to defend yourself if you are denied unemployment.

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

That's assuming you have access to the printer. Also, some companies (Call Centres are notorious for this) dusenablevyour ability to send external emails out, so you are unable to send the evidence to your pvt email. They are also notorious for forcing you to mute your phone when you get the assistance of a supervisor on a difficult case to assist you. This is so that if the call is played back, the supervisor can never be implicated.

@jtixtlan Месяц назад

@@melanieoreilly2565 Take pictures with your phone and give them file names and keep them in a folder.

@jtixtlan Месяц назад

@@melanieoreilly2565And don’t connect your cell phone to the company WiFi.

@Pinkkermit17 3 месяца назад

I am feeling like I am on the chopping block for months , my boss only speaks to me when he has to, the director who I been working with for years has been acting off when we talk , HR team has been making “grunting noises” ( best way to describe it ) when they see me, etc. I been with the company for many years and I dont know how to handle this. I been going through this deep depression , and feel at a lost. I just saw them literally terming another person in my same leadership level and they stood in a hallway whispering and joking about it. I know they will do the same about me. I am just a number.

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

Trust your gut instincts. You are not wrong. O can only sympathise. It really is a shitty position to be in

@anthonygonzales3523 Месяц назад

im literally in the same position too at my job rn, i'm on the brink of being fired if I make one more mistake because they talked to me in the past about my mistakes, and im afraid that im going to create new mistakes. lmao but yeah

@MzShonuff123 8 месяцев назад

Step 1: Ask yourself whether this job is one you wish to keep or do all this to keep Step 2: Apply for other jobs and start interviewing. Even if they don’t fire you, you might find a kickass new job. But start with Step 1; most jobs aren’t worth jumping through hoops to keep

@davidbrewer7937 8 месяцев назад

Print out any emails that might come in handy to prove your case in court. Make sure you clean up your personal stuff. Remove personal documents from your computer. Delete non work items. Keep a diary. Get ready, keep nothing more tfan a coffee cup on work. In Canada you can legally record key conversations under one oarty consent laws. Get job hunting... better to jump than be pushed, even if it is a transitionary job. When it happens, sign NOTHING, say NOTHING. When you gand in your phone, credit card, computer etc, demand a detailed, signed receipt with the date & time at the top.

@GTS300Coupe 8 месяцев назад

Very good advice thank you

@JStorm13 8 месяцев назад

Install a Deadman switch, so that if you're no longer there, everything goes wrong

@gerardsloan1593 8 месяцев назад

Start planning your exit. Update CV or resume. Start applying for other opportunities, try to put with your employer on the best terms as you may need to get a reference even if it is to confirm dates that you worked there, beware of quitting your job as you may not qualify for unemployment benefits. Even if your job is horrible, surely there are skills and experience gained from it? Customer service? Office admin? Working under pressure. Try to use the experience you gained and put a positive spin on it so you look like gold, that is what applications and interviews are for and what people do in applications and interviews anyway lol. Start budgeting until you have a regular income again. If you are experiencing what is being described in this video, you are not the only person who experienced that and there are countless others who have gone through even worse. You can use a bad experience to get something better, in every trouble a blessed. Hang in there. Have a good day reader.

@saitomsai4150 8 месяцев назад

Should you lie about your termination to your new job?

@gerardsloan1593 8 месяцев назад

@@saitomsai4150 ask an expert. However, if the company is only going to confirm dates you were there, you could say you worked a temp contract that wasn't renewed etc you could say it was a temporary contract that was renewed several times and at the (amount of time you were there) you and your employer agreed to not renew contract. However I think you should give your question to a professional and ask for their opinion feedback etc. I only gave you guideline. Thank you for your support, have a good day.

@majormarketing6552 8 месяцев назад

Always lie

@the.blue.raven7777 3 месяца назад

This advice is .... Why would the boss who want to out the door help you ? Ask for help to the boss? Why prefer to be fired ? It makes getting a new offer very difficult ? Explain that how ????

@z-a3594 8 месяцев назад

Documenting works when the issue is with someone who is not your boss. It would only work with the boss if he also has a target in his back.

@bethiciaprasek1008 8 месяцев назад

So great! I hear you and the excellent input you provide. I am on the other side and am trying to coach employee but may have to do a PIP. It makes me sick to think of it. If we cannot work together to improve the situation then I plan to refer her to your RU-vid channel after sad dismissal. It has been a year and she still requires more time and energy from me than it would for me to do her tasks. Or perhaps I should be PIP'ed for my inability to manager her. Even though I am working on my management skills, etc. I fear she will not survive well as we move through a recent merger unless I am able to properly communicate to her solid expectations. Have already started weekly meetings (with her) to address this.

@Info-God 8 месяцев назад

If the company is small you will sense it your colleagues are back stabbing you. How? The owner starts to ignore you, even question how you do things or worse how dare you. Does not matter how well you do the job. Laid off without cause = Don't like your attitude of not being an ass kisser.

@Wesley_H 8 месяцев назад

Keep a fire extinguisher under your desk. When the boss calls you into the office, or walks to your cubicle with the pink slip, grab it and pull the pin. When you get the bad news, let ‘er rip. Return to your desk without a word and resume your work. When a coworker asks what the hell just happened, tell them the boss tried to fire you, but you took exception to it.

@talleyman2744 8 месяцев назад

Unrelated to the actual termination and job transition, but if you know your days are numbered at a company, I would suggest increasing your 401k contribution % too until they cut you loose if you can afford it. You won't be able to contribute to it while unemployed, and it will take time to roll it over elsewhere for further contribution. Plus if they offer a match you might be able to squeeze a little more money out of them while you are on the payroll.

@Daniel-gs5wv 8 месяцев назад

emphasis on the if you can afford it part, if you think the budget is tight do the opposite because liquid cash is king in those situations

@monterreymxisfun3627 8 месяцев назад

If you're a protected class, file an EEOC discrimination charge. At the very least you can get a cash settlement out the door. An ADA accommodation can make you PIP-resistant. Sue; don't quit. Utilize a free consultation with in employment attorney if you're feeling powerless.

@RickJohnson 8 месяцев назад

Sometimes, if you've gotten to the stage of a PIP in an organization looking to manage you out, the requirements for the PIP may be difficult or impossible to achieve, despite their assurances to the contrary!

@hag12100 8 месяцев назад

A "PIP" is essentially the last warning. You're like two paycheck out the door if you're lucky on that. More likely sooner. Regardless, when I got beyond two warning in my prior jobs, I was fired. That's how it is in hourly jobs. Thanks to A Life After Layoffs Job Seeker Boot-camp, I got a real career instead of hourly mundane work.

@StefTechSurfer 8 месяцев назад

Stuff like this makes me want to do a startup.

@pagecurie5512 8 месяцев назад

@Brian Can you make a video on what to say during an interview when we have been fired? I always thought it was best to resign before the company lets us go but you said to stay to get unemployment so I'm confused

@mjb2709 8 месяцев назад

Great advice to try and save your job.... however.... If you’re failing because of your work ethic only then no work place will ever work out in the long run. If you’re failing because of toxicity due to supervisors, lack of experience/ training then it’s on the company and they are deflecting their shortfalls on you so get out as fast as you can, they will on make your life horrible no matter what improvement plans they put in place.

@LatinaChef1986 8 месяцев назад

I should’ve done that.

@jakoblindelof92 3 месяца назад

I got fired after 1 week at work. In hindsight I saw it coming. The boss became slightly akward, silent, did not joke around with me as much as he did the first 2 days. It was a small company with 5 employees. After 1 week (thursday to thursday) he wanted to speak with me in his room (massive red flag, unless the meeting is planned you are in trouble). Well I was fired because they had a gutfeeling that I was wrong for the job. To this day I do not know what I did wrong, I was on time and had conversations during lessons. I am sure it was mostly my fault, but the feedback was not the best. Gutfeeling is way to vague tbh.

@albundy3929 8 месяцев назад

make a complaint to HR about some type of harrassment from a suprerior. let them try to fire you now without looking like retaliation.

@BriannaMemis_Breezy1 8 месяцев назад

Toiling as a corporate lacky, as you constantly describe, is no way to live.

@batsy941 8 месяцев назад

Take your employer to court. I did the same thing. Give it your all if its unfair. In fact give them hell so they think 10 times doing to someone else. Bullying harassment is never tolerated

@TheScienceNerddAkemi 8 месяцев назад

Hey Brian, are you going to make videos that lean more towards the freelancing/self-employed side of things? I think it'd be very interesting!

@ALifeAfterLayoff 8 месяцев назад

What topics are you most interested, specifically?

@TheScienceNerddAkemi 8 месяцев назад

@@ALifeAfterLayoff To be honest, I really haven't thought of any specific topics. Maybe the pros and cons of freelance vs. W-2 work, the best places to find freelance work or something along those lines?

@eventdomain1 4 месяца назад

As soon as you make a stand against any conflict, you've just lost any chance of advancement etc, even if you win, so you might as well get legal.

@BronzeDragon133 8 месяцев назад

As layoffs seem to be accelerating as you speak... I enjoy my job, enjoy the company, and really like my coworkers. I'd be very unhappy to be laid off.

@luissxmas 8 месяцев назад

Always keep records of your employment from job hunting to the last days -keep pre-email hiring, contract employment, copies of policies you’ve signed. -keep email from your boss even if doesn’t look like a writing-up -document the good and the bad stuff that may happened during employement -document when thing get heat between boss or collegues (and HR)

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

Smart move

@StefTechSurfer 8 месяцев назад

5:41, it's not the same in Australia but it still pays to stay.

@VakmanCA 7 месяцев назад

Good advices but you will burnout pretty quick doing it. Just invest all your time finding another job.

@ryandunn9812 8 месяцев назад

Has anyone ever recovered from a PIP? Might has well just find a new job at that point because they are 90% going to fire you.

@MGTOWGuy 5 дней назад

I'm one of the older, pensioned employees at my job. They don't do pensions anymore for new hires, and every year I work adds more to my pension benefits. At a result, quitting is probably not the best thing. It is getting rough the last few years, watching new hires pour in and get treated better than me.

@imberrysandy 8 месяцев назад

I printed out my emails and screenshot messages from slack.... just in case. And I was right, mass layoff AND my ex employer was fighting everyones unemployment claims.

@genx7006 8 месяцев назад

I printed out screenshots too...unfortunately, they were of me goofing off.

@StefTechSurfer 8 месяцев назад

Do you have videos on IP Rights in employment contracts?

@lucianosschlieper 8 месяцев назад

I reported my manager 12 days before termination. My report had fiscal documents, pictures, videos and audios showing the stealing of around 300k BRL. My termination was because I noticed it. It has been 45 days and I received a msg from a coworker telling me the owner of the group came to visit the business. My ex manager is super fkd. I received a compensation mount of 25k, 10k+ than I should and a "thank you" note. And I already have another job with a better pay. I made a LinkedIn thanks to you and was found there. Thank you.

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

Brilliant

@randyblackwolf 3 месяца назад

I was recently dropped down to part-time due to my "doctor restrictions" (disabled veteran), they hired a guy to replace my position, they moved me to another position. In the meantime they gave me a new schedule, constantly ask me to come in outside of my scheduled time to help my replacement, but I don't. I feel like the dynamic has changed, and I have been looking for new jobs, applied for VR&E as well. I'm wondering if I could "just cause" quit or need to wait to be let go?

@demetrisemper227 8 месяцев назад

I recently had my 1st mid annual review in the corporate world, the review said Im am doing great starting out in my job and I do good work on paper, but the review went on to exaggerate my quiet personality to make it seem like I do not have social intelligence, in other words they were trying to create a false narrative about me, I work in foster care, where the turnover is insane, any advice on how to handle false narratives? or deal with people not liking you on a personal level even though you do your job well

@malkies6341 6 месяцев назад

What is your story supposed to be if it was sneaky retaliation they set me up to fail so they could try to fire me for performance.

@commonsenseking6386 8 месяцев назад

Check the unemployment law in your state, I received unemployment when I resigned because I proved to the judge at my hearing, I was on my last warning, tried to transfer to other departments but was denied, in writing. You have to show you did everything to keep your job for lieu of discharge.

@CT-yc4gd 3 месяца назад

I remember back in 08. Our Assistant Manager was an absolute prick. Called me names. Questioned my worth ethic to my face. I complained to HR about his hostile attitude. Jack shit happened. Tried for unemployment after I quit. Denied. Go starve on the street a-hole. When I brought a labor lawyer into the mix, suddenly the GM and HR backed up and said they were willing to give me 3 months severance if I let the case go. Took it and got another job 2 months later.

@deplorablecovfefe9489 8 месяцев назад

I knew I was about to get fired when I knew I had my limit of write ups coming tomorrow. I'm a nightshift maintenance/repairman. I broke into the H.R. office through the ceiling at night and stole all the previous write-ups from my file. When I went to the meeting, they guessed I must have done it somehow, but the Japanese Owners were so amused at how I outsmarted H.R. that they let it go with a smirk....(and they didn't have any evidence anymore anyway...lol) my first write up...again.

@Gaming_Antics 8 месяцев назад

Well, aren’t you a ninja?

@novalinnhe 7 месяцев назад

What fanfiction is this

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

Brilliant!!

@steve6135 8 месяцев назад

If you quit they have to pay you out for your saved PTO time. If they fire you, they don’t. I learned that the hard way

@StishFicks 8 месяцев назад

My previous company had "unlimited PTO", so if I quit, they probably wouldn't pay me anything at all. Instead, I waited for them to lay me off. I got severance and unemployment which was enough for me until I was hired for a new job.

@genx7006 8 месяцев назад

I will always win in this scenario because I blow through all my PTO first chance I get.

@vladluteen2299 8 месяцев назад

That likely varies.

@StefTechSurfer 8 месяцев назад

I'm lucky I got another role within a month. Applied heaps though.

@StefTechSurfer 8 месяцев назад

Update: it sucks and severely underpaid with no benefits and start at 8am to 4:30pm. :(

@medianikophotography 8 месяцев назад

I tried to get things in order because I was joking around with my colleague and other colleagues took it out of context and got me done, they documented everything I was saying. I tried to fix things but they weren’t having it, they got rid of me

@markjerue9734 8 месяцев назад

Video idea - how to make a new contract with your boss to change your employment from at-will to something else, and what that might look like.

@lextacy2008 8 месяцев назад

What if firing myself? Do I need to prepare? Can I panic?

@cuivre2004 7 месяцев назад

Often times you are put into a tough spot in a job because you are the only one being put into the position of standing up for ethics and remaining legal and not at risk of a lawsuit, or worse- human death. That was a position I was put it- those that remained in their job allowed their ethics to be subjugated in order to "feed their family". Do you suggest people who are about to be fired bend like they do as well? Sometimes a workplace is SO beyond the word "toxic", it becomes an enterprise of fraud and illegality. This was pharmaceutical testing and development arena, not just benign software development where things clearly work or don't work.

@MacDKB 8 месяцев назад

I have access to the Director of operations of the company, & have already been speaking to him on social media. I was recently put on a PIP for the 1st time ever in my career of 18 years. I didn't realize how serious it is till watching this video. Should I reach out to this guy about what's going on, or is that likely to only make things worse? I'm looking like crazy for other work, but the market right now is BRUTAL.

@campandcook3118 8 месяцев назад

If you have conversations regularity, ask him

@Royal_G80 19 дней назад

Do employers provide reasons as to why you were fired?

@kris856 8 месяцев назад

fun fact - the short for PIP exists also in Poland, means, after translation, more or less National Workplace Inspection, and the most important role of this organization is to stand for the employee and check how the employer acts reffering to the employee, if the workplace is safe, legal, no health hazards, renumeration is not too low - against the agreed conditions and fe more - so that the employer is not imposing his power against the people whu are hired. So, the PIP is also considered to be a threat, bit in this case to the unfair employer LOL

@StefTechSurfer 8 месяцев назад

4:48 felt like they wanted me iut either way one time and the PIP was just a legal way out. Also fekt the demands of my boss woukd force me work after hours eveey day because he just simply wouldn't factor in customer cases take time and is a job in itself whike giving me other tasks. This company had 100% turn over before.

@StefTechSurfer 8 месяцев назад

Humans suck sometimes. Especially in the corporate sector.

@melanieoreilly2565 Месяц назад

It's the last uneven relationship on the face of the earth

@PianoTribe 8 месяцев назад

I don't get why you say we should be proactive, but also wait to be fired instead of quit a potentially toxic and dead-end work situation. Isn't quitting sometimes the proactive decision?

@ALifeAfterLayoff 8 месяцев назад

Quitting after you've found another job is proactive. Just quitting isn't.