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What tree nurseries don't want you to do. Persimmon graft failure, graft your own scion to rootstock 

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I describe the difference between rootstock and scion wood, how do you know where the graft union is located. Should I graft a new scion persimmon wood to the growing rootstock after the graft died and rootstock grew in its place.

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@GardeningwithDucks
@GardeningwithDucks Год назад
Thanks for the video! I planted a Cardinal Persimmon from One Green World in October of last year. That plant made it through the winter and put on good growth this year. I was worried about their side graft at first- since I hadn't seen that type of graft before- but it's gone well so far. I'm also in zone 8b and actually within driving distance of the nursery, but I appreciated seeing your other video about the unboxing since we had sent an OGW order to my father-in-law earlier this year.
@flackfruit
@flackfruit Год назад
Thanks for the comment. I too ordered a Cardinal persimmon from OGW this last spring, unfortunately, it didn't make the summer. So I planted a flavor grenade pluot in its place. I was hoping it would take, but you win some and lose some. I hope it worked for your father-in-law. I would love to live that close to OGW, they do great work.
@DeanFamilyAcres
@DeanFamilyAcres Год назад
Looks like you have some good varieties. We're working to graft some scions too. FYI - You'll have less suckering if you pull the woodchips back from your trunk.
@flackfruit
@flackfruit Год назад
Thank you so much. I will give it a go. It gets so hot here that all grass/living cover dies. So I thought I would do woodchips to keep the ground temp down for the roots. But I think pulling it away from the trunk a few inches could be a good thing. Love your channel by the way!
@DeanFamilyAcres
@DeanFamilyAcres Год назад
@@flackfruit I think a few inches would be fine. I can imagine the heat, I’m sure necessitates drip and the shade cloth. Appreciate the feedback, trying our hand at grafting and other types of propagation this year. Looking forward to your progress!
@dalexfilms
@dalexfilms 22 дня назад
Correction: Comfrey is a nitrogen feeder, not fixer. The leaves make a good compost tea -- but they deplete the soil, not enrich it. Glad to know I'm not the only one who has lost grafted trees from a nursery. I also plan to use the rootstock in creative ways.
@flackfruit
@flackfruit 21 день назад
Good to know, thank you for the correction. Yes, most of my grafted varieties are thriving right now, since the rootstock is established.
@KathleenMcLynn-e7e
@KathleenMcLynn-e7e 2 месяца назад
So sorry you are dealing with such a low survival rate! Could it have something to do with the nursery? Don’t know that outfit, but FYI, Ty Ty Nursery has several names, ex. Best Price, Aaron’s, and has received a high percentage of bad reviews on one or two gardener sites. Might want to try another source to see. You are clearly putting some care & thought into your garden!👍🏼
@flackfruit
@flackfruit 2 месяца назад
Thank you, it was a couple of years ago, and the rootstock was great, now have 7 different grafted varieties on them. The grafts just didn't take from the nurseries.
@dapaozhang8565
@dapaozhang8565 Год назад
It is not a good idea to buy bare root persimmon tree. I bought 4 of them, 2 from Tyty, 2 from other nurseries. All of them gave growth from rootstock, with dead grafts. Then, I bought 4 potted ones, and all of them survived after I planted them.
@flackfruit
@flackfruit Год назад
That is good to know, I have planted 4 potted and they have died, I also have tried 8 bare root and 4 have survived..... so far. I have heard it is the variety, or how they are planted, or grafted, but I have heard that persimmons just don't do well compared to other trees. But I will stick with it. Love those persimmons.
@petera5560
@petera5560 Год назад
I won't buy bareroot trees anymore, success rate is poor, TyTY, Willis Orchard, etc just end up dying on me. I now only buy potted fruit trees with roots, if not I might as well graft my own trees.
@flackfruit
@flackfruit Год назад
That sucks, my experience has been similar, when I order bare root from back east (TyTy, Willis) they tend to die, the ones I order from the west (OGW, TOA) have all lived, don't know how that makes a difference, just an observation.
@CraftEccentricity
@CraftEccentricity 11 месяцев назад
I get all my fruit trees at Willis Orchard, and they are thriving and massive!
@LC-wv7tz
@LC-wv7tz 5 месяцев назад
Tyty is known to be terrible. Every grafted tree i bought from them failed and theu refused to honor their gurantee. Just terrible. Peaceful Heritage and Edible Landscaping on east coast have been lovely though. Amazing plants.​@flackfruit
@KathleenMcLynn-e7e
@KathleenMcLynn-e7e 2 месяца назад
Are you going to grow the root stock sprouts that you are pulling off?
@flackfruit
@flackfruit 2 месяца назад
No, just grafted to the rootstock in the ground, I have not had success with transplanting or repotting.
@AncientHippie
@AncientHippie 8 месяцев назад
I had the same success (or lack of) rate from that nursery.
@flackfruit
@flackfruit 8 месяцев назад
Craziness, maybe they need to ship them differently, or wait until they are more established before shipping them?
@CraftEccentricity
@CraftEccentricity 11 месяцев назад
Can I suggest every time you plant a tree shake 2 ounces of mycorrhizae on the roots and in the planting hole.
@flackfruit
@flackfruit 11 месяцев назад
You better believe it. I have tried that with some and not with others, I have not found a difference in doing it. But I have found if the root stock makes it grafting persimmon is more successful than replanting a new tree. I have tried it with 7 persimmons and so far had an 80% success rate with grafting. With replanting I had a 10% success rate.
@dapaozhang8565
@dapaozhang8565 Год назад
Several of the Bare root trees (persimmons, jujubes) I bought on line were really BARE ROOT, basically no root, or very little root. That is why they did not survive.
@flackfruit
@flackfruit Год назад
:(
@agpawpaw5912
@agpawpaw5912 Год назад
Does winter was cold? I’m in 6b, last winter was few days very cold. All my grafts died
@flackfruit
@flackfruit Год назад
That is no fun. I just grafted them a couple of weeks ago, waiting to see if they took, but I hear persimmon is harder to get grafts to take. We will see.
@TV-yj9mh
@TV-yj9mh Год назад
Low percentage survive
@flackfruit
@flackfruit Год назад
With the bare root persimmon, yes, but I got to give it a try for already established root stock.
@Suckitcommietwat
@Suckitcommietwat Год назад
You’ll promote anything
@flackfruit
@flackfruit Год назад
Only if it benefits getting good fruit. :)
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