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One stereotype that always gets me is that we are all drunks. I usually get so mad that i need to get absolutely shitfaced for a week

My only polarbear story is actually a dad joke in finnish. Jos on kaksi karhua ja toinen lähtee, niin jääkarhu.

When foreigners ask "Is Lapland open today?" ... I don't know whether to laugh, cry or have an apoplectic seizure.

Years and years ago people from the internet said that the Finnish sauna is a lie, that nobody could ever go into a 100 C sauna because your blood starts to boil... They actually think that humans are lizards or something.

Ok, another annoying thing: when foreign media does a pseudo Russian accent for characters that are supposed to be Finnish.

My cousin is married to an American woman (US). I always remember when they were a new couple, not even engaged yet, and I had a conversation with this lovely lady when she was visiting Finland. She asked me if we have polar bears in Finland and I just answered that we do have them in the Zoo. She asked if we have any wild polar bears and I said that no, they're only in the Zoo. After that we just changed the subject and didn't talk about polar bears anymore. A year later she was visiting Finland again and somehow we started to talk about how we Finns are protecting the Saimaa Ringed Seal from extinction. She admired us how we have learned from the history about what we had done to the polar bears. Turned out, that she thought that originally there were wild polar bears in Finland and we Finns had just hunted all of them down to the point there were none left anymore... 23 years later we still laugh about that innocent misconception sometimes. She and my cousin are still together. They have lived in Finland for 15 years now, because they want to raise their children here. She's one of my best friends now.

I'm swedishspeaking and found Finnish classes in school very difficult, the grammar was just mind boggling. I grew up in a very predominantly swedish speaking area, and very seldom had to speak finnish, and almost never even dared to try because of the complexity. I then moved to Sweden to study, and somehow I forgot most of the Finnish grammar, and when I moved back I just spoke a lot more finnish. I'm probably making lots of errors but since I don't remember any rules anymore I just speak. Most of the time finnish people seem to understand me ;) my friend used to say, just put the words in a line one after the other and let them (the listeners) do the conjugations ;). I guess one thing that irks me as a Swedish speaking finn especially when in Sweden is that most people there think everyone in Finland is a native finnish speaker. People used to give me praise for my Swedish skills, and then be perplexed when I told them I've spoken swedish my whole life - that it's mine and a quarter of a million people's mother tongue and proceed to tell them a brief history of Finland's Swedish speaking areas, remind them that we were the same country for 700 years and then get a blank stare and the question, "so when did your parents move from Sweden?" 😂

About learning local language. If you don't understand the language, you are always outsider. The local language is like a sea for a fish. Without any language skills, you are like a scuba diver at coral reef; You can make some observations, but you don't really feel, what is happening. If you adopt some language skills, however limited, you start to being a fish. This applies any language, any country.

One that bugs me as a person living in Southern Finland, is that many tourists come to Helsinki during October-December and are disappointed they don't see the northern lights. I always just want to say "well, duh, what would you expect seeing when there is barely even snow in Helsinki? You need to go to Lapland for that, and if you are lucky, you might see them". And then they are always like "where is the snow? isn't it supposed to be a winter wonderland here?" again, Lapland for that :'DDd

That Finnish would sound like Russian. How many times I’ve explained that your language, whether it’s English, Portuguese, French, you name it… is closer to Russian than Finnish is. And after all the lecturing about Finnish not being a Indo-European language, they still might claim that it does sound somewhat similar… 🤦‍♀️

On schools: We got so damn proud about becoming world famous for having good schools that we got complacent and stopped improving them. While we have stagnated many countries have probably overtaken us.

I used to live in Australia 20 years and a lot of ppl asked me "If Finland is a part of Russia". Some told me oh you speak russian. You are slavs etc.

Spot on with that Kiva Koulu -system. I agree 100 %. I found the person who developed it and she said that they never meant it to be used the way it is used. For example my daughter was forced to sign an agreement with the bullies that she had forgiven them although she didn't want to forgive anything. She was pressured to do this by the teachers and no one informed me as a parent.

Once one british girl asked me in worry, what happens to reindeers when its summer in Finland, when she learned that we dont have just winter in here.

I like how your accent is slowly changing to be more and more finnish

The stereotype that drives me nuts is when I tell people I'm Finnish, and they start talking like the Swedish chef from the muppets. This happens surprisingly often I gently correct them by telling them, "You're not doing a bad Finnish accent, you're doing a bad Swedish accent, it's insulting, and you're an idjut."

About Finland not being a small country, for Americans I like to compare it to the US. If Finland was one of their states it would be the 5th largest by area (behind Alaska, Texas, California and Montana).

My Wife is Finnish and we are currently living in Texas is been quite a educational adventure being here, the amount of ignorance here is mind melting. We been asked numerous times how long does it take to drive from Finland to Texas. To which I answer " we'll depends on how fast I wanna push my James Bond Lotus Submarine, 18 hrs give or take. Or we go to buy drinks or cigarettes and we show passport. And they go ahhh do you have another ID? And I have to explain that there's no higher form of ID than a passport unless they want a DNA 🧬 sample. They're always very puzzle they never have any idea where Finland is or what Finland is for that matter. They usually be like Ohh Finland...and you can tell they have no clue and never heard of Finland before.

When I was working in Italy one of the locals ask "do all the finns carry a gun?" ??? That was because all those polar bears. Another one said "you must have a hard time to be in here". I asked why and he said "you come from the country where is always a winter and in here is 30°". 🙄

Finnish language is very easy as a child i learned it in 1 year. But to learn English it took me 20 years

No polar bears, but a warlrus who made a visit :D

There are plenty of obvious reasons for some of the stereotypes. For example, once an American or Western European tourist arrives in Helsinki by ferry or cruise ship, the first thing they see is the Russian Orthodox cathedral (Uspenski Cathedral). When a tourist approaches the most famous landmark, Helsinki Cathedral (lutheran church) by the senate square, they see the statue of Russian Czar, Alexander II in the middle of the square. It is surrounded by historical buildings that look very "Russian". This is because the same architects who built important public buildings in St. Peterburg, Russia also designed some of the major public buildings of Helsinki in the 19th century. Most importantly, the Government palace and the Helsinki University main building. During the first cold war, whenever American fiction filmmakers needed outdoor shots of "Leningrad", they filmed in Helsinki. The Finnish political position between the east and the west, with close relations with USSR also made some Anglo-Saxon people put Finland in the category of a Soviet Satellite, like Poland, Hungary or Czechoslovakia. I once saw some old American map of northern Europe where Helsinki was written "Helsinskiy", like it was a name of a Russian city. Until 1993, the international vehicle registration code of Finland used to be SF (for Suomi - Finland, the country name in both official languages), but it was sometimes understood as "Soviet Finland". And about the four seasons in Finland: We must understand that the overwhelming majority of the world's population live in regions that have a dry season and rainy season, or just one season, but no significant difference in temperatures throughout the year. Therefore, for those people, it may be difficult to understand how the same place that sometimes has freezing cold temperatures below -40°C in winter can have hot temperatures above +30°C.

I moved to Finland with two senior dogs, and we love it here ❤️❤️ Anyone who says that Finns are quiet should come live in Kuopio 🙈 i moved from Espoo to Kuopio this year, and they can talk so much 🤣🤣🤣 i love Kuopio ☀️❤️

My quick googling and maths says that Finland's land area is 38,9% larger than the UK

I find that the best way to learn a language is through immersion (at least after you've learned the bare basics). Be that through books, TV shows or news articles. Back when I was a teen (some 20 years ago), I started reading books in English, and this improved my English tremendously.

Learning Finnish is difficult, the main thing is that one tries to learn it. We know it can take a decade, so no hurry. But one of the most common complaints is that we Finns don't let you guys speak Finnish, we instantly switch to English. I have friend who moved here in the early 90s.. we still speak English to each other cause it just works better that way.

There's no excuse not to try to learn the language... I'm Finnish, but I had to learn Finnish Sign Language to better communicate with my deaf now ex-gf of many years. It was difficult sure, but in the end, what are you going to do, not even try? You'll figure it out, I know it!

I'm increasingly fed up with how OTHER FINNS constantly talk up the stereotype of us being socially crippled. There's a kernel of truth to the idea that Finns are on average less talkative than most others, but the internet just exaggerates so much.

My polar bear story: back when everyone still used messenger, I was chatting with some USAmericans with a friend of mine. They seemed to absolutely believe that we have igloos everywhere in Finland and that there are polar bears roaming the streets. We even convinced them that we keep them as pets and ride them to school. 😂

I have thought that those people who imagine that Finns are quiet and don't talk to other people, have never visited the provinces outside the Helsinki metropolitan area. Especially in central Finland, there is a lot of chattering, and speechless moments and silence are awkward if more than one person is present. The American professor Michael Berry called this phenomenon the Finnish "blah-blah-blah-culture" and many foreign students who studying in Central Finland have noticed that the reality has not matched the image and stereotype of us Finns because it is difficult to find a quiet moment and Finns talk too much and too long here. However, the thing that has surprised foreigners the most in Central Finland is that it is difficult to have your own turn to say something when the other might be talking about, for example, grandmother's sciatica or winter feeding of sparrows for tens of minutes or even half an hour before the other gets to speak. And the way I got to know this was to talk about it with random people in situations where we have met and at the same time have been guilty of this "blah-blah-blah-culture" sin myself.

And the penguins... It's even the wrong pole.. Penguins are down in the south.. 😄

I love Finland and lived there for a short while. I drove from England alone with just one good Finn friend helping me via telephone. A great journey and a wonderful experience. I hope one day to buy a Summer cottage there. Btw I was deported for overstaying the three month limit, I appealed but lost the appeal and came back......... reluctantly. Irish potatoes? I have never seen or tasted them so I'm guessing they are so good that Ireland keeps them for their selves 🙂

As a Finnish-American, I am often present at the moment someone first discovers that the verb "to finish" and "Finnish" sound the same, and they simply must try out their newly discovered wit. When Finns do it, I'm like "Sinäkin Brutukseni?"

I actually LOVE the polar bear thing. So hilarious. Ps. Ireland goes into Finland exactly 4 times (338,440 km2 vs 84,421 km2).

I had to wrestle three polar bears this morning just to get to work!

Comments I hated while I was living in Germany... When I was complaining about the cold weather they said I should be used to it as a Finn (even tho I had already been living there for many years). And yes, they also asked me if we had polar bears in Finland 😅

Back in the days, our cars had this SF sticker,which ment Suomi Finland right. Now, almost everybody else thought it ment Soviet Finland.. go figure

What comes to speaking Finnish.. I don't mind speaking English with people that have moved here from other countries. But, I do think it's a bit arrogant if you have lived here for years and still haven't learnt ANY Finnish. We know that Finnish is a difficult language for others to learn, so we don't expect for you to speak it fluently in like year or two. It's the effort that is appreciated - learn at least the basics and use them here and there. A simple Kiitos or Huomenta etc will make a Finn happy. 😊

I hate it when people always think of Finland as a cold country. I mean Finland isn't always cold. Just sometimes (around 1 third of the year).

I hate when people come to me and say "You finns are such hermits. Everyone avoids even the smallest social contacts" Like dude, respect the 5 meter distance.

Being Finnish traveling abroad is so fun i have yet to meet anyone with a negative perception of us, i have travelled alot, but i havent gone to Russia they might not be fans…

Just came in mind the evening 1990 in aliens bar in Peking China. Young lady from USA was there at one year pakback trip and when she heard at we was only weekend trip in China from Finland she ask why so? I say i cant stay longer because i have polarbear farm in Finland and cant get them stay alone longer. May be the story still lives.

I've never had Irish potatoes, so I can't comment, but Finnish potatoes are pretty damn good at least. 😉

For learning Finnish grammar, I have found the book “Finnish: An Essential Grammar” by Fred Karlsson to be very helpful. Also, it sounds like some of your hesitancy might stem from a fear of trying to converse with others in Finnish and making mistakes. I suggest that one of the first things you memorize in Finnish is how to state that you are learning Finnish, will probably make mistakes, and thank them for their patience and for speaking slowly. Some people might even be willing to gently correct you or provide feedback, if you’re comfortable with that and ask them to do that. Immersion is a crucial part of learning any language, and I think you’ll find that people will be kind and supportive once they know that you’re making an effort to learn their language. Best of luck!

idk about the "we have other seasons besides winter" thing. Even the summers in Finland feel very cold to me compared to where I mover from. :P

I am a Finnish person living in Latvia for more or less 10 years already and I have only begun recently to ´sort of´ break out my comfort zone in kind of forced way, to have none of my english speaking friends around me and just Google Translate on spot, memorize it, say it out loud - then people understand you and you memorize whatever you were saying. I have found it really fun way to improvise on spot and in situations - kind of real time little cheat sheet for access all time \,,/

When I first came to England a few decades ago, everyone asked me and my friend if it was difficult to get out of Finland and they all assumed we speak Russian. They only ever heard of Finland in connection with US and Russian peace talks during cold war. And we must be poor to accept work as domestic servants (called aupairs: it was the only way of getting a work permit while not being an expert). That was before EU even existed in its current form.

Well I live up the far North of Finland so I will say that they would rather walk with their dog than a person! Making friends is easy but socialising is another matter…..mostly just gatherings and events.

Speaking of the fake Irish accent I MUST say that I absolutely hate it when somebody does the fake norse accent (like skyrim and such) and really thinks that everybody from the nordics talk like that, horrific

10:32 You were very close with 3 or 5 - it’s four times. Finland is slightly smaller than Germany and a bit bigger than Poland - quite surprisingly.

Just conjure up some Sisu from Ukko & speak Finnish loudly like thunder (Ukkonen)!! Make sure everyone around hears. They will be impressed with your efforts. Remember there is no such thing as quiet Ukkonen.

I was so happy to see that you mentioned my comment! Something I feel I didn't clarify enough in the original: There is absolutely nothing wrong with not being able to speak Finnish, and my comment is by no means targeted at you - my annoyance has to do specifically with a lack of effort, or with people discouraging people to learn Finnish. I don't live in Finland but I occasionally encounter locals who are really enthusiastic about the language and the moment they mention that, some other local makes a comment about how they should learn a different language instead, because "Finnish is really difficult" (which it is) and because "they all speak English anyways" (we have a high average level, it doesn't mean it's a language everyone knows or feels comfortable in). In those moments I feel like we're being punished for having studied hard to learn a language.

I find it annoying that most food show in TV from Finnish cuisine always choose poronkäristys for one example of Finnish food. I live in middle of Finland and have eat poronkäristys like less than 10 times in my 45 years of life. There plenty of better and more common foods in Finland.

I'm in the same boat as you regarding being comfortable with my non finnish and my kids starting school soon. I'm sure we'll be forced to use finnish more then. 😊 Good choice with the skyrim tavern music btw. The bit about the potatoes had me in stitches.

My fiance tried doulingo. After basic phrases it just says good luck 🤣. She's been having a far easier time with Swedish.

This one really pisses me off; ''Finns were just 'stone age' like people or just primitive like living around forest before Sweden came to 'civilize' Finland''

I have a good one related to polarbears that i have asked few times. How many penquins polar bears eat a day (on average).... 😉

That first point about language annoys me for any language(as an English person). That's why if I have a international friends I like to try and learn their language even just a little,(and it also makes you appreciate the effort they go to juggle more than one language). Though by the same token they will ask me to use English to help theirs get better 😅 nooo speak [insert language here] at me! I reckon we should be put through our paces and make us have to tinker in language more

Duolingo is probably the worst ways to learn Finnish, I'd suggest to take those Finnish language courses available to immigrants, they're usually really comprehensive and good quality. Also they should be completely free or very little cost to you.

About Duolingo; Evan Edinger made a good video on how to make the most of it, helped me in learning norwegian - it's called "I did duolingo for 2000 days in a row"

If anyone ever says to you that Finnish people eat squirrels, it’s probably my fault 😬😅

Tnx for nice vlog. I like your interest of finnish mythology, etymology and words overall. It shows interest and respect toward the culture and language. I tried duolingo myself.. it sucks ;D you are immersing finnish, your language understanding is good and grownig, so when you start to be able to speak finnish just speak it. That is how finnish kids speak so good english - they never studied it.

So like ur stuff in here.. keep up the good stuff. If u ever Come to Hellsinki I Will get u beer and jallu. I would like to see how u reackt to jaloviina or other finnish drinks.. 😀 if u are up 1 of those thing.

It's not true that Finns don't like meeting new people. I believe that there are these not so social people in every country. Some of the Finns, in my opinion, consider it strangely a matter of pride and create an image that Finns are not social. I talk to almost new people every day and the neighbors have come to ask e.g. I borrow playing cards, sugar, etc., even though I live in an apartment building and have made a lot of good friends. It is a myth that all Finns today are somehow shy. For some, maybe speaking English is somehow difficult and they are so ashamed of it that they don't like to meet foreigners and try to get to know them. But if someone annoys me, it's the fact that a Finn says "Finns don't talk, and they don't like to talk to strangers".. Although this doesn't apply to everyone. It just depends on the person

During my school years i was trained to be a Kiva koulu intermediator (The course was for one day and the point was how to solve bullying by basically make the bullies and the bullied sign a "deal" without any punishment to the bullies) In my experience 9\10 times it didnt do anything except be humiliating to the bullied. Then i decided to use a different approach mind you this was not condoned by the school. I just said to the smirking bullies that if you continue this i will kick your asses and it worked a bit. I was so sick and tired of the school not doing fucking anything concrete to solve the problem. I was myself bullied because of my larger size and it only stopped when i took matters in to my own hands broke one of the bullies noses. I do not condone the use of violence except as a means of self-defence but at that point i had had it and saw no other option. Also in the school one of my friends had tro change schools because of bullying and a another one took his own life at the age of 13.

Have you seen Kummeli's sketch "Music Quiz - Irish O Irish"? It's great how Finns can distinguish the difference between the Irish and the English, right?

lt should not surprise anyone that folks think that it is always cold in Finland; growing up there, l was always telling my friends that when l am big, l will move to a warmer country. As for the polar bear stories, and igloo-dwelling lnuit: l've heard 'em too, but that's just stupidity.

If you're going to learn Finnish, Duolingo isn't the way to go, maybe for vocabulary, but I recommend Pimsleur, it will build your confidence in speaking it, only the first lesson is free though...so at least you can try it Love the videos, watching from Cavan!

actually we have had polar bears here in Finland 🐻‍❄ at Korkeasaari Zoo and Ranua Zoo 😉

My middle school got some visitors from Greece at some point, their visit happened to coincide with the coldest winter of said decade, and the coldest week of said winter. Their down jackets wouldn't have been enough during late autumn, let alone during actual winter. For some reason they still decided to huddle together outside like penguins instead of waiting inside the school buildings. We weren't allowed to, but they would've been. They asked me about polar bears. I managed to convince them that we had had some, but they had moved further north since it was currently too warm in the south for them. (I'd like to remind you of what was said in the first paragraph, it's important. 😁) Also: we definitely don't have snow all year around, that's ridiculous! It only snows during midsummer every 5 years or so! Also also: we do build igloos in our yard, but that's only every other year.

when you google is Finland part of Scandinavia the answer is indecisive, so people thinking that it is, is completely understandable honestly. As a Finn I've always considered Finland scandinavian (first result on google) "How many countries in Scandinavia? Geographically, there are 3 Scandinavian countries (Denmark, Sweden, and Norway). Culturally, there are 6 Scandinavian countries Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Finland and The Faroe Islands." even the 2 first picture results are one of a map without Finland included, and the second one with Finland included

How would you rate the Irish in The Boondock Saints?

Don’t feel bad about not knowing about the school system or extended school bullying problem in Finland, as it is really a rabbit hole.

Yeah, Finland is not part of Scandinavia. I did not know people were so nuts as to think Finns had polar bears as pets. Then again, the more I hear people, the lower my expectations of them become. Like very low. Scandinavia is like a PhD level false compared to polar bears as pets. Oulu even advertises of being the capital of Northern Scandinavia. Can you think of any capital that is outside its own region, because I cannot. So, that's a stretch, like most things in Finland are.

Regarding Finland and Scandinavia: If I wanted to be a bit provocative, I'd say that I think there's a decent number of us Finns who have kind of a "special snowflake" mentality regarding Finnish culture and identity. They seem to believe that the connections to Sweden start with the time of Swedish rule, and this is incorrect. The Western Finns (i.e. The people who were originally called Finns to begin with) began to intermingle with the northern Germanic and Baltic peoples in rhe Bronze age, i.e. about 2500 years before Swedish rule. I'm not trying to argue that the Finns and the Swedes are identical (they aren't) but the two are heavily intertwined and have been for a LONG time, and the same can be said regarding Finns and Estonia.

That russian thing pissis me of totally. We dont have anything common with east neighbours ( nicely said ). Only just few old monuments in Helsinki and one unnecessery church looking like that.

That scandinavia part always makes me facepalm so hard that someday i might hit my face so hard that my nose will be back of my head.🤦‍♂️

I hate when people think that the entire Finland is like Lapland and that there are reindeer everywhere. Even some Finns don't know where Lapland is. But those kind of things are understandable since people don't really care about things that are far away and tend to believe whatever information they come across instead of looking it up. I don't really know the southern Finland properly myself. Also on the language topic: I think learning a language is just about using it. If you start using finnish you will learn it no matter how bad you initially are. That's the reason why Finns don't learn to speak Swedish or English despite both being mandatory languages in school. They just don't feel the need to use it. I used to think that the younger generation would all be good at English thanks to the internet but then I got a younger coworker who's worse at it than my old man.

Hey, you live this god deserted nothern cold town calld OULU?? I also.. and I think I saw you once running in .. to BEER!... or not??

My Grandfather was born in Finland! He never really talked about it sadly.

The social media can be very black and white. There’s no ’the rye bread’. There’s a variety of them and I don’t like most of them, but the ones I do are a thing I would miss, if I’d live abroad. The ’Finland is a part of Russia’ I kind of understand, but I think it’s about the differences of the quality of the education systems in different countries.

6:25 "polar bears" "bear in mind" :)

I don't really get angry about the Scandinavia thing, it'a a pretty natural mistake to made and as a Nordic country apart from the (first official) language we are nearly identical. But Russia, god... I have crossed that border and it is like two different worlds. Truly dramatic.

Hahaha we don't have polar bears, that's Norway's thing, and no, reindeer do not wander in cities.

lumilinko (snowblower) is good way to learn finnish. Push that junk around, and ya learn the most important finnish words that we use day to day. No need for duolingo.

You could replace the polar bear with a walrus in the thumbnail!

2:23 this is 100% true.

Not sure if it counts as a stereotype, but what bugs me is every time English speaking comedians try to do a "Finnish accent" it's just a Swedish accent. Our accents sound nothing alike, and nobody bothers to look it up and get it right. They could take two minutes to listen to our rally or formula drivers or something. I just think our accent is funny, and it makes me sad nobody appreciates it :(

the clear untruth that finnish language is hard to learn 😏

I hate that were being seen as the happiest country in the world. Im miserable! Now, the obvious jokes aside 😂 it's just so weird to me that so many people are super adamant that the Nordic countries are all socialist. Last time I checked we're not.

The person who made the comment about KivaKoulu has misundetstood it completely. The program doesn't promise that there won't be any bullying. It is a tool for schools to teach kids not to bully. Like everything else in learning some learn it and some don't.

We finns do have had hunger times so there are no more polarbears. Even normal bears are eaten because hunger.

Do Finns hate the "Barley anybody lives in Finland" stereotype? I know Finland has a smaller population compared to other countries in Europe but i'm wondering that

As a potato eater I value a good home grown Estonian potato my grandparents used to grow when they were alive

Personally I don't fit into the stereotypical finnish character: I don't drink coffee, and even the few beer cans in my fridge sometimes seem to reach their "best before" date before I drink them...

When foreigners don´t know that santa is from korvatunturi. I found out recently the guy from coca cola who was tasked to design their santa for their adverts was a finn :O

About Finland not being part of Scandinavia: I have not met a single person in-person in Finland who cares about this. I have talked about this with many friends (most with university degree, so educated folks) and no-one really cares. Actually, I might even use this myself even if I know it's technically incorrect. Somehow it seems more clear to say that than just "generic" Nordic countries, even if that isn't any more generic really. And to be honest, small part of the Scandinavian mountains comes to Finland but not to Denmark. So who actually should be booted from group? Not Finland 😉

To be fair some parts of russia are just like Finland but there are logical reasons for it

Since you mentioned stereotypes, here is a universal stereotype of the #Irish people. It's unfortunate I didn't meet any such people when I visited #Ireland years ago. Kummeli Musavisa Irish O Irish ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QXHFrxqnFBc.html

When people are trying to make over positive/rosy picture of Finland. That in Finland everyone has their own bouncy castles and it's government truly cares of it's people. That in it self doesn't increase my blood pressure, but what makes is when "they" are silencing people who wants to reveal the unpleasant truth. (You shouldn't say that! People get the "wrong picture" from us!) 😒