If Hermione, Viktor, and Harry were to go out to eat as friends Hermione would be the one telling the waiter/waitress that Viktor and Harry didn't order pickles.
I will say one part I love about Krum in the movies is when he gets snarky with Rita Skeeter. "You have no business here. This tent is for champions... And friends."
He can't even talk to Hermione at first 😂. He like watches her from afar for a while before getting up the courage to talk to her. It's freaking adorable
Is krum/ it(the broship) ever picked up on later on? It would be cool to see hermit onion hay feeling jealous of thier shipness and casual quiddich banter all the while holding back death eaters with thier off hands!
This was a huge missed opportunity too. Cuz the ENTIRE book everyone, even the main characters think Krum is some stuck up playboy, but this moment with Harry shows that he’s actually insecure and shy, and him and Harry actually end up bonding a bit. Harry is Krum’s first friend who didn’t care about his Quidditch Stardom.
To be fair Harry didn’t have a normal life by wizard standards. Raised by abusive muggles after his family was murdered, got famous from not being murdered as a baby, suddenly thrown into the wizarding world without warning, then spending most of his adolescence trying not to get clapped by the Dark Lord who for some reason has declared a child as his nemesis. I don’t think he had the time for normal things like becoming a devoted Quidditch fan 😂
@@user-xd2oh2hd4fyeah mentions it but we hardly see it, they cut out so much from that whole movie ... S.P.E.W., Wonky, a lot of the characters personality, I honestly only watch it sometimes for the silly haircuts
That is such a cute line in the books, but it foes makes senes: Krum is older and he is an internatinal Quidditch Star, plus always seeming very stoic... I'm sure Harry pretty much considers him the height of cool, with his little 14 yo Brain
@@saiyasha848 it could have also been the fact that the tournament has canceled all Quidditch matches for that year (which is a HUGE stress reliever for Harry as he finds flying and the sport in general enjoyable) and finally getting to play with someone who knows what they're doing and loves the sport as much as he does just got him pumped. 😂
He saw something beautiful in her when most people were only looking at her appearance. Even Harry apologized about how much grief he and Ron gave her about her looks, despite defending her when Malfoy teased her. Viktor saw pretty ladies drool over him all the time, but Hermione was just a good person to him (and being muggle born, didn't really have the hype). Viktor was the FIRST person to tell her how special he thought she was.
Yeah, I think you're on point with that. Yet, paradixically, even if Hermione was nerdy and not-caring about her looks, Krum was like the first one to perceive her as a woman and not as a geeky friend that knows all the answers and helps us with homework. Also, that characteristics of "not needing to chase after someone" or simply not being desperate is helluva attractive and that is what strikes Krum about her. Firstly, when we see Krum being chased by these women, Hermione comments on it rather negatively, being suspicious of him walking around the castle like that and those girls being after him... But maybe she already thinks of him like those girls do, but she's just not willing to do the same thing. She's got her life, her passions, and a friend in need to stay alive in the tournament. However, when it is Krum who approaches her, she's all in for it. The tragedy, sadness and loneliness of Krum, international Quidditch star, is on point too. He's still a kid, young man, a teenager. Kind of gives off that Draco's vibe, but with more self-reflection and humility - Draco's is rather compensating his needs for attention and warm from the parents by taking advantage of other people and being arrogant. Great to see him change later on too.
@@theluminaryofthestars4181 JKR should have left out the whole "getting married" part from the books entirely. The final chapter was such a cringefest; there are fan fics that are less fan-ficcy.
I love how Rowling has said on Pottermore that the Potter family went with Krum to a future World Cup event because he was still considered a family friend. I imagine Krum teaching James Potter II Quidditch tips.
I love how salty he is at the wedding when harry tells him Ginny is already seeing someone "What is the point of being an international Quidditch Star if all the good girls are taken?!" He is so adorable
@@highdefinition450 I think he does, he clearly is an extremely good flyer and is very passionate about it, i just think that he was making a bit of a joke that being so good at ti should come with some perks, but whats the use if all the nice looking girls _are_ taken?
@@nyxie2877 That's very true, but I always read it as Viktor poking fun at Harry, cause of how obvious it was that he and Ginny liked each other. I may have been wrong, but that was my guess 🤷🏻♀️
Not to mention that he's hunched over and walk weird, clumsily almost. Yet becomes the most graceful human on a broom. Also is surprisingly studious. Not to mention how humble and down to earth he is about pretty much everything.
No it's not, that's a Russian accent 😫 we sound nothing like this when we speak bad English . Source: trust me, I've spoken bad English for years. Also I'm a linguist 😄
Viktor was actually an amazing human being. Had Harry said he was interested in Hermione he would have backed off instantly. Even when he found out about Ron he still backed off and just became a long time friend of Hermione, just dropped any chance at romance.
@@ovo5228mhm you can see that when harry (under disguise) tells Victor Genny is taken already, he voices his frustration yes but its not like he pushed the issue
In my language we write and pronounce her name as "Germiona", you read as written, no fancy pronunciation G as in gimmick, E as in Helen, A as... idk... it's not round sound ae its just A
I love this man so much. Like even when he couldn't date Hermione, he still wrote to her all the time while respecting her wants and feelings. Like the true mvp
okay i really really dont mean to burst your bubble here and it probably isnt a good idea to say something that might start an argument but theres a key detail about krum that everyone just seems to forget… and thats the fact that he is 18 while hermione is 14. Its easy to forget because “aw cute romance” but uh, hermione has barely hit puberty while krum is literally about to be an adult. Four years may not seem like a big deal but when you are a teenager it absolutely IS. ESPECIALLY considering the fact that Krum is famous and financially stable while hermione.. isnt? The power imbalance on paper is weird.
@squidpee they were both high-schoolers at the time though. Students together at the same school. They kissed once and that's it. It's not like he made her do anything she didn't want to. Don't make this a dark thing when it's not.
@@elliewellie_RU-vid They were both highschoolers at the same time, but I think that only adds to my point. Seniors date Freshmen all the time and it rarely ever ends well. They also didn't attend the same school but that's neither here nor there. I'm not trying to say Krum was sexually abusing her, because you are right, he never made her do anything she didn't want to do and they only kissed once. Yet, it's still weird. Sexual abuse isn't the only risk with those kind of relationships. Power imbalances are very incredibly bad for mental health and an age difference is probably one of the worst power imbalances. It would be so easy for Hermione to idolize Krum, and even if they had both had pure intentions and hermione was smart and krum was kind it would still be dangerous because of that age difference.
@squidpee I don't disagree that this happens but let's not project things onto kids that aren't happening. They only had a ~3 year age gap and were in the same school. It's a case by case thing where you should look at behavior and not make sweeping generalizations.
@@elliewellie_RU-vid it was a 4 year age gap and when you are a teenager thats a big deal. They are fundementally at different brain development stages. She turned 14 that year. Hes literally old enough to participate in a death competition when shes not but suddenly its okay when he wants to take a 14 year old out on dates and stuff?? It does need generalization because in all cases its weird and also because fiction impacts reality. It may have been okay and wholesome in that case but if a 14 year old girl read the books and got the impression that was okay and got abused because of it thats not okay. Thats the problem, these are books for kids who are impressionable, thats why twilight is so detrimental because normalizing this stuff puts people in danger. Like yes the fault is always the abuser but its negligent at best to allow these kinds of relationships to be romanticized. I dont care that its wholesome or not dangerous in this case; it still can have a negative impact
Krum in the movies: dumb, brutish, jock, who's perfectly okay with the fact that his school is known for producing eviler wizards, and loves his fame Krum in the books: sweetheart, shows a fair amount of intelligence, hates his fame as much or almost as much as Harry hates his, attracted to girls who don't give him attention who also happen to be hated by the pureblood community (Hermione a muggleborn and Ginny a bloodtratior), and literally almost fights Mr. Lovegood because he associates the deathly hallows symbol with someone as bad/worse than voldemont in terms of blood supremacy
As someone who only ever watched the movies Harry and Hermione was a relationship I never got. Like, i had no idea what they were supposed to be, and I dunno if that’s because im stupid or the movies just don’t make it very clear
Have you thought about the fact that Viktor Krum cares more about a 14year old girl he just meant a few months ago more than anyone else, this means no friends or family that he cares enough about. For Cedric it was his girlfriend, Harry his best friend (practically brother) and for Fleur her sister, yet Viktor Krum cares more about this girl than anyone he has ever met. Edit: We're forgetting the wizards can apparate so they could have easily gotten Krums parents and all his friends were already at Hogwarts for the Triwizard Tournament
Fortunately Hermione is 15 when they meet since she's almost a year older than Harry so the age gap with Krum is not as creepy xD But yes it would be a bit sad although I think it's not really "the person most dear to you" like the song says, that's just a poetic exaggeration, they just use whoever is available closely. Since Fleur didn't really care about anyone here they had to get her sister but Krum at least genuinely cared about Hermione.
Don't forget how Karkaroff only treats him special because of his skills, and he is 100% aware how people's love only last until he wins games (he's not even good-looking). His entire life is like an illusion made on marketing and fame. He loves Hermione so much because he knows she can see through all this bs. He is also a child talent milked for business and possibly overworked. I always assumed that by how he had to spend so much time on the broom he has problems walking on solid ground, also he can barely socialize with people because that side of him could never develop in a healthy way, exactly a thing very well sheltered and overworked child talents experience. Then again a thing he loves Hermione for, cause Hermione is a very hard-working, talented witch, who has shown difficulties fitting in at a younger age!
I love Viktor Krum in the books. We see that beyond being a great quidditch player and a worldwide star, he is still a person, he has feelings, setbacks and insecurities. It is sometimes useful to have someone to remind us that they (sportsmen, influencers, famous people) are still normal persons, like you and me
krum in the books was one of my favourite characters, he was so sweet. his whole personality was "oh, your not stealing the love of my life. okay! lets play some quidditch!"
@@brittanylewandowski6200 it's only a 3 year age gap and it's not like krum was purposely trying to date teens younger than him 💀 stop portraying him as a pedophile.
If harry and Krum did decide to play quidich in the books it would spiral to a full blown quiddich match thanks to Fred and George getting the word out and Dumbledore would let it happen
fr, He was kind, loyal, fair... It was a real testament at how good a person was, that the _only_ reason harry coud find to dislike him, and even that not for very long, is because he was able to ask Cho out faster then Harry did. And even after that, you didn't get the feeling he actually _disliked_ Cedric, he was just salty about Cho.
My boy! But for real. Even the most minor characters got properly fleshed out by teams of editors and supportive writers in the books after the third, but the movies went backwards and dumbed them down for screen time and for (very mild girl-power vibes) political purposes.
I don't blame you. The way the movie was setting him up, I thought for sure there'd be a "surprise" twist where he's the bad guy all along. Usually teenage romance drama movies introduce jock whom the protagonist doesn't like just to make him the surprise villain. However, in the books you wouldn't think he's the bad guy because even though he's very popular, he doesn't really seek the popularity.
@@sevenrings9450 I wouldn't say "jock". Harry is more of an everyman personality so anyone can project themselves onto him. He's an underdog but other than that, he doesn't really have a specific personality. He plays sports but that by itself doesn't make him a typical jock. He still gets bullied, has a hard time finding a date to the Yule Ball, and he really tries to get good grades even though he doesn't.
I mean, that is the impression that everyone else got of him at first on the books took and then you as the reader get to actually spend some time with him and realize he is just socially inept. It's like the movies stayed on that phase of the character and never bothered to go beyond.
The pronouncing of hermione’s name is so accurate lol Just like how dumbledore was pronounced as “dumbly-dore” by beauxbatons Also how they made the schools in the movie a one sex thing kind of annoys me
@@brennathecatlover4360 no, there were beauxbaton boys. First to step out thay pegasus pulled carriage was a boy and the dates harry and ron had ran off to dance with beauxbaton boys
I thought it was supposed to reflect the idiocy of the headmasters of both of the foreign schools: Beauxbatons' headmistress rejected Hagrid out of social norm bull, showing that she only cares about appearances and so brought only the cutest women along Durmstrang's headmaster is basically the representation of different conservative and hate groups in the world most of which treat women as weaker/inferior to men and so brought only men as a show of force.
When I read Harry Potter for the first time I remember how happy I was that there were Bulgarian characters in the goblet of fire (because I’m Bulgarian) and goblet of fire just became my favourite book.
I always thought he was meant to be written as a "weird" guy. Like almost a creep guy? Just like, Luna in the books is so much weirder than movie Luna, just like how book Malfoy is so much meaner than movie Malfoy
@@hicat808 nah I disagree, I don't think he was ever meant to be a creep, just a famous, awkward teenager who hated that people liked him for his quidditch talent, not him as a person. And I that was what drew him to Hermione, she didn't care about quidditch and she is smart and attractive. In the movie he is just a block of uninteresting stone that Hermione somehow fell for.
Well Ron took 2 to 3ish more Years to really do that :P One of the most frustrating things in the books because everyone with half a functioning Braincell knew since the second Book that they will love each other but it took waaaaaaaaay too long for them to commit to their Fate :P
@@ChrysanthemumWine he tells Rita to leave the tent think that's his one line like its " this tent is for champions and friends leave" something like that
In the English books, Ron asks Hermione who that "novel" is for that she is writing. Meaning it was a long letter. In the Dutch books, that was mistranslated as an actual romantic novel, which seemed so cute.
If you're curious the name wasn't random. Victor Krum (the last name) is named after Khan Krum, one of Bulgaria's greatest leaders, famous for expanding the nation's territories and one of first to apply laws that were strict but just. You've got one heck of a duck there, haha :)
Or the fact that his performance during the Quidditch World Cup was completely omitted from the movie. But in the books he's quite literate and enjoys reading, and spending time with Hermione. He gets very jealous when Ron and Hermione are dancing at Bill and Fleur's wedding. Update: He also proceeds to talk about how nice looking ginny is To Harry and got upset because. Apparently, "What is the point of being an international Quidditch player, if all the best looking girls are taken?"
Krum is my baby I love him so much in the book. He's shy, really sweet and is just so happy to have a friend in the books. But also a very very skilled wizard, he was critical in the Battle of Hogwarts and could defend against several death eaters at once.
They didn't have any time in GoF for side character development. To be fair, I can't imagine how I would have found any, trying to get all that action into two and a half hours. Other than cutting some major events (maybe a task or two.) But you know fans would have complained.
@@harringt100 I mostly agree, but adding a few personality traits like viktor's misprononciation of hermione's name, or other verbal / physical traits doesn't take time away from the movie. For example, quirrel's shaking voice (that definitely not the accurate term, but as a french I have no idea what it is) is a slight character trait carried out from the books, it doesn't tke time away from the movie, but it helps to define the character. Another example is maugrey's eye constantly moving, giving him a crazy appearance
Honestly I can really see them connecting based on how simular they are in so many ways. I bet he'd be great at helping Harry just be normal for a little while and not force him to talk about horrifyingly traumatic events to satisfy personal curiosity, but when Harry chose to talk, he would listen and give advice to the best of his ability.
Tbh i adored viktor because he literary just wanted people to like him for him. He was warmed by people interested in him because looks and fame but he wanted a true company
Book Krum is just so sweet and wholesome. Why’d the movies have to do him dirty like that 😭 although I love the part where he gets mad at Rita for coming into the champion’s tent
