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What Was Actually in Hamas’ Ceasefire Proposal? 

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As Israel moves to invade Rafah look at the potential peace agreement that was almost agreed to; why Netanyahu is invading Rafah anyway; and what might happen next.
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0:00 Intro
1:04 The Ceasefire Deal
3:48 Israel’s dilemma
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@JCNL871
@JCNL871 Месяц назад
Saudi Arabia is in no position to criticise Israel after turning Yemen into a graveyard
@edwardspain2881
@edwardspain2881 Месяц назад
The Houthi terrorist organization is still operational out of Yemen
@coaldoubt2879
@coaldoubt2879 Месяц назад
and the US*
@benji-pj4dp
@benji-pj4dp Месяц назад
In the hundreds of thousands including 80000 children staved according to help the children. Muslim world silent tho
@harlowida
@harlowida Месяц назад
What Saudis did is 0.001% of what Israelis are doing. Of course both backed by the US
@jazminew38
@jazminew38 Месяц назад
US, UK, IS, France, Germany, Saudi, UAE, Jordan and Bahrain ALL Z controlled and paid for by Z whether Christian, Jewish or Arab Z. All are Evil. Evil can never win! #FreePalestine #FreeUSfromIsrael #FreeTheWorldfromIsrael
@robertb6889
@robertb6889 Месяц назад
"You surrender - and we might give you some of your hostages back alive." Who the hell would accept that.
@kingeddiam2543
@kingeddiam2543 29 дней назад
If Israel actually cared about civilian lives then they would've agreed.
@Kuraru213
@Kuraru213 28 дней назад
​@@kingeddiam2543Do you know the word surrender? Surrending a war means accepting defeat. Theres no way Hamas would rule Israel government and abuse the people
@StevieFQ
@StevieFQ 28 дней назад
Dumbest statement i heard all day. If israel cared about civilians they would have built a system to prevent destruction by a malevolent outside force. Something like the patriot system, you know, the one that was developed a decade before the iron dome system. Now if hamas cared about the lives of civilians they would have not attacked a music festival. Or better yet, they wouldn’t us their own civilians as human shields. But that would be crazy, if the innocent civilians weren’t there to take the hit who would raid the next music festival?
@kingeddiam2543
@kingeddiam2543 28 дней назад
@@StevieFQ yeah you mean the system that let's an AI decide if the civilian casualties caused by a missile is enough for it to be worthwhile to shoot down? Literally placing a monetary value on human life? And I'm not trying to argue in favour of hamas, but arguing that hamas is worse than the IDF is ridiculous imo. Read any testimonial by the thousands of Palestinian hostages the IDF have taken and you'll see what I mean
@amineboum9493
@amineboum9493 28 дней назад
yeah , w8 until you hear what the zionists deal is abt
@lynox172
@lynox172 Месяц назад
Bruh that’s the worst deal I’ve ever heard and I’m German and read Versailles.
@hankjones3527
@hankjones3527 Месяц назад
😅 Fair comeback.
@matthewshapiro6870
@matthewshapiro6870 Месяц назад
fantastic comment
@lrmry
@lrmry Месяц назад
😂
@f-86zoomer37
@f-86zoomer37 Месяц назад
But you started WW1 destroyed all of Belgium and half of France, and then you lost, so literally any terms that weren't unconditional surrender were fair play. Don't start wars you can't win is the moral of history. Far worse has happened to entire countries that were aggressors and then lost.
@hankjones3527
@hankjones3527 Месяц назад
@f-86zoomer37 A great speech but ignores the fact most countries in Europe have at one stage gone on a conquest bender. Some successfully, others not so. The only difference with WW1 was that industrialisation of warfare had taken everyone by surprise.
@miguellopes7627
@miguellopes7627 Месяц назад
Equating living hostages to corpses of hostages is ridiculous, on the other hand is the idea of moving thousands of people to one corner of Gaza as the other is bombed, over and over again expected to be doable?
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Месяц назад
It’s about gaining control over the region. The only region Hamas has control is rafah.
@MichuKutty-bc1yl
@MichuKutty-bc1yl Месяц назад
There is no hostages in Israel.
@Booz2020
@Booz2020 Месяц назад
TAIWANESE Lives Matter 🇹🇼💯👀
@miguellopes7627
@miguellopes7627 Месяц назад
@@MichuKutty-bc1yl I was referring to Hamas' hostages, and their proposal of giving back corpses if they can't find the 30 hostages
@veeaxis3892
@veeaxis3892 Месяц назад
Moving every Gazan into Israel is a huge security risk and explains the 2005 withdrawal in the first place, and Egypt has essentially closed their border. Ending the war prematurely, letting Hamas remain in power after October 7th is unthinkable. Israel has little choice but to instruct civilians to move to safe areas within Gaza, unless anyone has a better suggestion.
@editorrbr2107
@editorrbr2107 Месяц назад
Absolutely mental. No one would have accepted that “deal”
@sapwho
@sapwho 29 дней назад
Israel literally agreed to it earlier
@g-rexsaurus794
@g-rexsaurus794 29 дней назад
@@sapwho Source?
@socialpast9924
@socialpast9924 29 дней назад
@@g-rexsaurus794literally in this video
@amineboum9493
@amineboum9493 28 дней назад
hamas cant accept other deals because they cant surrender to netanyahou claims , because if he destroys this resistance , he can take the rest og whats remaining (west bank0
@phiality9070
@phiality9070 27 дней назад
​@@socialpast9924 except isreal never agreed, it was hamas who agreed but Israel rejected.
@redinblood
@redinblood Месяц назад
Differences between the Israeli proposal and Hamas's proposal: - In Hamas's proposal, they do not commit in the first stage to release only living hostages, as Israel demanded, but it is noted that in the first stage, 33 hostages will be released - "alive or bodies," according to the criteria that meet humanitarian release. - Hamas wants to release 3 hostages every week, Israel wanted 3 hostages every three days. - The proposal states that the bodies will be delivered as a completion to the number 33. In Israel, they want the third stage of the deal to include returning bodies, and in the first two stages, only living hostages will be returned. - Different keys for the release of prisoners (30 and not 20 for each hostage, 50 and not 40 for a female soldier) - Regarding the release key for female soldiers, Hamas wants 30 lifetime prisoners (plus 20 prisoners whose remaining imprisonment time is up to ten years), Israel is willing to release 20 lifetime prisoners (plus 20 prisoners whose remaining imprisonment time is another ten years) - In Hamas's proposal, there is no Israeli veto right over the names of the lifetime prisoners, nor an option for extradition outside of Gaza, as Israel demanded - There is an agreement that by the seventh day, Hamas will transfer a list of the hostages it holds, but the document Hamas agreed to includes the phrase 'as far as possible' - Difference in the timing of the military withdrawal from Rashid Axis: The Israeli proposal speaks of a week after implementing the deal, and at the end of releasing all women, the Hamas presentation speaks of three days after, and not dependent on the release of the women - Hamas's proposal includes a commitment to reach agreements regarding the prisoner release key for men - soldiers and civilians - by day 35 - Hamas's proposal includes a clause that defines that the temporary ceasefire (the cessation of military activity) will continue in phase B until a full agreement is reached. Hamas's proposal does not include a clause about the 'end of the war' in the first phase - Hamas's proposal includes the release of all prisoners who were re-arrested after being released in the Gilad Shalit deal. This is not mentioned in the Israeli document - Hamas's proposal includes the removal of restrictions on the conditions of prisoners in Israeli jail imposed following 7/10. This is not mentioned in the Israeli document - Israel and Hamas agree on evacuating wounded Hamas members for treatment outside the Gaza Strip - but do not agree on the number (Hamas wants at least 50 per day) and also on the timing of the implementation of the move (Hamas wants from the first day, Israel agreed after two weeks) - Israel demanded that as part of the rehabilitation, Hamas must not rebuild its military infrastructure, as well as the importation of materials for military use. This was removed from the Hamas proposal - Guarantors to the agreement - The Israeli proposal includes Qatar, Egypt, and the USA. The Hamas proposal also includes the UN, in addition to Qatar, Egypt, and the USA.
@kwiatw
@kwiatw Месяц назад
If was representing Israel I wouldn't take this deal either. Terrible, biased, but not surprising, reporting from TLDR.
@redinblood
@redinblood Месяц назад
@@kwiatw I don’t think it’s a question of take the deal or leave it. Hamas’s offer is bad for Israel for sure, and the government shouldn’t accept it as it is, but it’s a step in the negotiations. There are more stuff agreed upon then disagreed upon. True, the disagreements are on major issues, but that’s why there is still a negotiation table this should sit at, with or without military action in Rafah.
@sheacunning9208
@sheacunning9208 Месяц назад
@@kwiatw It wouldn't be TLDR news if they weren't trying to paint israel in as bad news as possible. Also notice how their website feedback for bias always is mysteriously down everytime they release an israeli video. Almost as if we're allowed to point out bias on any story except Israeli stories.
@Serocco
@Serocco Месяц назад
​@@redinbloodYou know what's worse for Israel? Lying to Egypt and the US about accepting the deal then saying no and invading Rafah anyway.
@rachaelik
@rachaelik Месяц назад
​@@SeroccoYep. Nobody should ever believe Israel again.
@TheGhostOf2020
@TheGhostOf2020 Месяц назад
I nearly spit my drink out after hearing you say the first initial details of hamas’s proposal. The last 24 hours of the news cycle first seemed to imply that Hamas was agreeing to the proposal that was on the table and that Israel was walking away from it, then more reports on how it was a different agreement proposal that wasn’t even floated yet, and now hearing the specifics it’s hard to believe Hamas is being serious about diplomacy at all here. From a completely an objective standpoint the idea that one party would abandon all military gains and favorable positioning for a pinky promise of maybe releasing hostages piecemeal starting a month from now is absurd. Bilateral agreements are inherently built on proportional concessions and checks that incentivize both sides to hold their end of the agreement.
@zachweyrauch2988
@zachweyrauch2988 Месяц назад
What's proportional to a hostage?
@Newidhan
@Newidhan Месяц назад
@@zachweyrauch2988 apparently 20 imprisoned palestinians, anything from rock throwers to literal psychopathic murderers of whole families with a life-in-prison sentence
@mrmyth5846
@mrmyth5846 Месяц назад
Well stated! And spot on.
@AttaBek1422
@AttaBek1422 Месяц назад
Netanyahu: We want our hostages back Hamas: Here’s a deal to hand over the remaining hostages Netanyahu: Did I say hostages back? I actually meant destroying Hamas And lets not forget the Gaza settlement conferences his ministers keep attending…
@tjfirhfjejUTH24
@tjfirhfjejUTH24 Месяц назад
@@AttaBek1422except it’s literally not the remaining hostages lol
@ericcook7622
@ericcook7622 Месяц назад
Hamas accepted a deal that wasn’t on the table.
@yorksfolly1255
@yorksfolly1255 Месяц назад
It was a deal the USA brokerd
@archangel2633
@archangel2633 Месяц назад
​@@yorksfolly1255 well that's what Hamas claimed...
@pyrolight7568
@pyrolight7568 Месяц назад
@@yorksfolly1255 Which was not the original deal and was hot trash for Israel.
@bootypluderer
@bootypluderer Месяц назад
@@archangel2633 That's what the US claimed not just Hamas
@truelies5431
@truelies5431 Месяц назад
They were proposals by mediators and the US was one of those mediators.. the thing is if Natenyahu ends this war he's gonna be trailed by Israel for failing the country on oct the 7th and other corruption allegations... so invasion of rafah it is
@z0mb1e564
@z0mb1e564 Месяц назад
Yeah, I can see why Hamas would agree to that deal. They only have to send back corpses but they get all their people back.
@meretricioussimp7759
@meretricioussimp7759 Месяц назад
hamas doesnt really know how many hostages they have, and will have after the process. Hamas isnt a state, its in its current form a guarilla force, it really doesnt have the organizational and logistical capabilities of a state, their plan isnt to give 33 bodies, that wouldnt satisfy israel at all and nothing forces them to keep the ceasefire after that, its just a contingency to make sure israel cant back out if they come with 32 and the other is bombed on the way
@Physiker17
@Physiker17 Месяц назад
Are you insinuating Hamas would kill the rest of the hostages and then send the corpses back?
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Месяц назад
that is not the reason lol. The agreement stipulates the release of three hostages weekly. If one of the hostages is dead, the deal will be off. Think harder next time
@rafalpilat4229
@rafalpilat4229 Месяц назад
@@baiwuli6781 Its not. According to the "Deal" they can substitute hostages for corpses of hostages.
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Месяц назад
@@rafalpilat4229 I dont see this part in the video, but if that is true, then yeah i can see why.
@Apocalypse21OG
@Apocalypse21OG Месяц назад
2:27 So what is stopping them from giving 33 corpses
@tempejkl
@tempejkl Месяц назад
they’ll give all the living ones, and then the rest will be the dead.
@zaper2904
@zaper2904 Месяц назад
Nothing and that's exactly what they were planning to do.
@Gluzil
@Gluzil Месяц назад
@@immylon4608 why spread your bs like it is an elementry school's bathroom?
@thenamesianna
@thenamesianna Месяц назад
Yeah, I was wondering that
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Месяц назад
2:10 because they gonna give 3 hostages per week 🤨
@iwersonsch5131
@iwersonsch5131 Месяц назад
Could someone go over the differences between the Egyptian proposal that Israel accepted and the Egyptian proposal that Hamas accepted?
@gkbhai8962
@gkbhai8962 Месяц назад
Hamas "accepted" a proposal that didnt exist.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Месяц назад
​@@gkbhai8962 3:49
@vod96
@vod96 Месяц назад
Thats the thing, its not publicly available - for some reason, we know exactly what Hamas wants, but no idea what Israel wants.
@PeskyWabb1t
@PeskyWabb1t Месяц назад
egyot agreement leaves HAMAS in charge of Gaza. Israel has always maintained that regime change is part of their plan, so they arent going to agree to withdraw all their troops before that happens.
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Месяц назад
@@vod96Israel literally stated they want the hostages and Hamas lose control of Gaza so the Hamas attacks can stop.
@catgoot12
@catgoot12 Месяц назад
That is an awful deal
@XAUCADTrader
@XAUCADTrader Месяц назад
This dead or alive thing is a bit odd...
@andrewgutierrez4841
@andrewgutierrez4841 Месяц назад
"It's unlikely Netanyahu understand it the same way" is certainly one way to put it
@jamesbambury
@jamesbambury Месяц назад
I am sorry that was not a deal? That was a wishlist of everything hamass wants I am not shocked Israel did not agree.
@Sterren-ws6jc
@Sterren-ws6jc Месяц назад
Imagine starting a war, losing it and then making demands while hinting at a fact that most, if not all, hostages are already dead.
@jakel8627
@jakel8627 Месяц назад
They committed a massacre. Israel declared war.
@akramhaila4476
@akramhaila4476 Месяц назад
Nice try fed
@Lusitano9514
@Lusitano9514 Месяц назад
Israel in a nutshell
@alexeistrife56
@alexeistrife56 Месяц назад
Yeah, just like the Native Americans when they started all those wars with America and they begged to be be allowed to live on their lands. Don't start wars you can't win, buddies.
@maxqazwsxedc1050
@maxqazwsxedc1050 Месяц назад
I'm genuinely confused which side you're referring to
@user-ym3ry2fc7n
@user-ym3ry2fc7n Месяц назад
you cant brake a ceasefire 2 time in 2 months and then ask why no one agreeing to your ceasefire
@Dojafish
@Dojafish 28 дней назад
Are trying to side with the people who do fucking genocide? Literally Isreal won't agree with the ceasefire because they want Palestinians exterminated and all of the land for themselves.
@_Helicam_
@_Helicam_ Месяц назад
After negotiating with themself Hamas agreed to the deal they proposed.
@selecks6462
@selecks6462 Месяц назад
That deal makes no sense to me, from all the way over here it doesn't look like hamas has much a position to make any demands
@zehavi111
@zehavi111 Месяц назад
Apparently theu do because the west including TLDR shows their demands in a positive lights. The west is in a free fall
@theunholyburger9338
@theunholyburger9338 Месяц назад
They basically want Israel to leave rebuild Gaza and pretend this never happened.
@001sander2
@001sander2 Месяц назад
They have hundreds of Israeli prisoners. Those lives mean nothing to you huh.
@t34r
@t34r Месяц назад
​@@001sander2 In a strategic sense, this hostages are irrelevant. Hamas could release them all tomorrow and the war would still continue. After all why should the Israelis let Hamas off the hook for some hostages when they could just remove the threat that took hostages in the first place.
@user_xsr
@user_xsr Месяц назад
They do and they matters however they want prisoners to be released if im not mistaken. These are bo mb maker s, su i cide bombers and te rro rists which can create more and new attacks. It's a very difficult choice to make, what is ur take on that?​@@001sander2
@Ramschat
@Ramschat 26 дней назад
"This deal is a ruse meant to make it look like we rejected a deal and invaded instead of negotiating." *Rejects the deal and invades*
@samwinchester1326
@samwinchester1326 25 дней назад
The deal was ablosute garbage why the heck should 30 israeli lives be worth one Palestinian live? Why should israrl accept such crazy demands when they are winning the war?
@Flipflopflopper
@Flipflopflopper 16 дней назад
They proposed a deal that was stupid and impossible
@JoeeyTheeKangaroo
@JoeeyTheeKangaroo Месяц назад
I'm hearing a lot of 'Israel must do this' demands.
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 Месяц назад
Israel is the occupier.
@MichaelDavis-mk4me
@MichaelDavis-mk4me Месяц назад
@@deficrypto1234 Exactly, Israel has the strong hand here. Don't expect them to bend the knee to a foe with no territory left.
@yee2631
@yee2631 Месяц назад
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me I'd expect them to at least follow international law and not illegally settle the West Bank while carrying out a genocide in Gaza.
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Месяц назад
@@deficrypto1234 there are no settlers i gaza. gazas self run, by hamas. but please explain to me how sexual assault by hamas helps the Palestine cause. Oh wait you just wat all the jews to be ethnically cleaned Israel genocide advocate.
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Месяц назад
@@yee2631 oh the genocide the UN said not happened?
@jamsheedranderia2897
@jamsheedranderia2897 Месяц назад
What is funny is that hamas still thinks they can dictate terms after the conditions they are in😂
@beniu1305
@beniu1305 Месяц назад
how the hell do they think they can dictate terms when their only still standing building is in qatar where the hamas leaders live
@aymenyahyaoui1771
@aymenyahyaoui1771 Месяц назад
I mean you tell me who rules gaza and khan younes and forced the idf to retreat who still has the hostages by all mean we still have the hostages so yeah we can still dictate terms
@jamsheedranderia2897
@jamsheedranderia2897 Месяц назад
@@aymenyahyaoui1771 retreat?😂😂😂😂 what war you looking at you like terror sympatyzer gaza is rubble
@PhilipLaSnail
@PhilipLaSnail Месяц назад
@@aymenyahyaoui1771 I don't know how to tell you that in a serious way so I'll just read you the losses of each side in this war in the battle of khan younis for you to understand it better. Israel: 37 soldiers dead Hamas: 3,000~ terrorists dead when the numbers are 100x in your favor, you don't have a real reason to retreat but a diplomatic reason or a strategic reason. (These are the estimates of Hamas and Israel (both agree on it)
@rafalpilat4229
@rafalpilat4229 Месяц назад
They know well they cant dictate terms. They are proposing unrealistic terms on purpose, so they can say "We tried to make peace and Israel rejected." damaging Israels reputation on the world stage.
@georgeclarke2258
@georgeclarke2258 Месяц назад
Hamas seems to be negotiating as though they are winning. It doesn’t work that way
@dVector13
@dVector13 Месяц назад
You dont know how to negotiate, then.
@georgeclarke2258
@georgeclarke2258 Месяц назад
@@dVector13 this isn’t a business deal simp
@12Metatron
@12Metatron Месяц назад
​@dVector13 no usually the losing side has to make concessions. Otherwise the winning side could just continue and gain more than if they accepted
@doratar
@doratar Месяц назад
The first phase of hostage releasing in the original deal was only live ones, and the deal Hamas approved say that the hostages released could either be dead, or alive, according to Hamas's choice- This is one of the biggest gap between the deals Also, the Hamas deal is forcing Israel to stop the war, which is obviously not possible if the target of the war is to defend Israel from another October 7th
@aa-cy7eb
@aa-cy7eb Месяц назад
well hamas cant do a jesus move and resurrect the dead if israelis are killing them israelis proved to not care about israeli lives they didnt on oct 7th like 60% of 1200 were killed by israeli weaponry they care about one thing and its destruction of hamas and in long term establishing the greater israel which is every place that is named in bible that a jewish prophet walked on which looks like a global domination plan since its big chunk of trade routes can influence west and east complete huge percentage of world energy resources
@rafalpilat4229
@rafalpilat4229 Месяц назад
Lol, its not even a deal, just an egyptian proposal
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 Месяц назад
The conflict didnt start on October 7th. Furthermore, Israel killed 17k people in LEBANON. With ur reasoning, Lebanon should continue fighting to prevent that happening again. No one keeps fighting in a war to prevent casualties. If Arab armies can stop fighting after taking casualties, Israel can do the same. No double standards!
@person3231
@person3231 Месяц назад
@@deficrypto1234 A previous ceasefire was broken on Oct 7th by Hamas, they declared war on Israel firing dozens of rockets and breaking their way into Israel, so yes, the conflict was started on Oct 7th.
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 Месяц назад
@@person3231 Provide evidence of this pre-October 7th ceasefire please. Furthernore, Israel has a long history of breaking ceasefires. So, by your reasoning, Hamas can attack Israel when Israel breaks ceasefires, agree?
@devalapar7878
@devalapar7878 Месяц назад
The US and ISrael proposed a deal for months. Why didn't Hamas accept that? That would have released the hostages and there would have been a permanent ceasefire.
@aa-cy7eb
@aa-cy7eb Месяц назад
cuz the permanent ceasefire was hamas proposal genius not the u.s and israeli one israeli proposal boils down to give us the hostages back and we give you few more moments to live
@ejt3708
@ejt3708 Месяц назад
@@aa-cy7ebwow ur the genius i guess you luv death and torture
@phallusy6574
@phallusy6574 Месяц назад
Israel proposal was give hostages back and we will continue as we were. So... no.
@steinarnielsen8954
@steinarnielsen8954 Месяц назад
A "permanent" ceasefire once again broken by Hamas.
@SuperJibulus
@SuperJibulus 29 дней назад
It’s quite simple to understand why Israel are attacking Rafah… because Hamas started attacking Israel from Rafah. Not hard to understand.
@haresmahmood
@haresmahmood 28 дней назад
That doesn't explain why the Israeli forces declared southern Gaza including Rafah a safe zone for civilians and forced millians of them to relocate there at the start of the war
@SuperJibulus
@SuperJibulus 28 дней назад
@@haresmahmood it was a safe zone. They weren’t being attacked from Rafah, they were focussing on where Hamas were. It’s almost as if Hamas deliberately stay close to civilian populations and hide behind them. They moved to Rafah along with the innocent people and then started attacking from there. They’re disgusting cowards and I hope Israel achieves its mission of wiping them out. They make children stand near their weaponry after its position is given away because if Israel attack that strategic position it’ll mean they can report the killing of children. Hamas also have soldiers below the age of 18. There is no such thing as a “child soldier” in the west, so when their deaths are reported they’re reported as if they’re innocent children.
@SuperJibulus
@SuperJibulus 28 дней назад
@@haresmahmood I responded but the RU-vid bot system removed my comment, maybe you can see it in a notification. No point in continuing the discussion if online censorship removes the comments.
@NivGeva
@NivGeva 28 дней назад
Because they wanted to start attacking the city of Gaza itself and its area where the Hamas headquarters were and many more stategic places. Now, most of Hamas brigades who are left stay in Rafah, and also many Hamas terrorists/fighters from other brigades evecuated to Rafah hiding between civilians, so Israel want to get there to keep eliminating Hamas.​@haresmahmood
@serrael-182
@serrael-182 27 дней назад
​@@haresmahmoodit perfectly is doing that. To reach every part of gaza civilians need to move more than one time. Your welcome to explaining you logic.
@jamieconnor3505
@jamieconnor3505 Месяц назад
Problem is, from Israel's POV, leaving Hamas around is asking to be attacked again in the future. It's a risk the government there is likely not willing to take
@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 Месяц назад
Just get better fences
@andrewpritt8739
@andrewpritt8739 Месяц назад
yeah true
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 Месяц назад
Bibi's government funded Hamas in secret
@tombo416
@tombo416 Месяц назад
So why did they try to frame this entire thing around hostages if they never really cared in the first place? Why couldn’t they just be honest and say they want to wipe Palestine out instead of trying to gain sympathy 😂
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Месяц назад
It's a risk they willingly took when they have been funding Hamas for years and ignored the warnings of Oct 7th
@danw2502
@danw2502 Месяц назад
"Hamas agreed to a cease fire deal" is a WILD oversimplification . that's the same as saying i agreed to a deal to buy your channel for 1$
@serrael-182
@serrael-182 27 дней назад
They made an offer for a deal on their conditions with a weird timing.
@danw2502
@danw2502 27 дней назад
​ they want to stop the rapah offensive, that's the only leverage they have
@hartlytartly
@hartlytartly Месяц назад
I wouldn't have accepted that deal if I were Israel either.
@anoooouur7304
@anoooouur7304 Месяц назад
Israel itself did that deal, and then refused it.
@Adam-wg2rf
@Adam-wg2rf Месяц назад
​​@@anoooouur7304it was not what egypt said it was a hamas edit to their side of the deal that's why israel said no
@rafalpilat4229
@rafalpilat4229 Месяц назад
@@anoooouur7304 No they didnt, did you watch the video? The "Deal" was not a deal at all but a proposal by egypt.
@bigg.grizzlybear2670
@bigg.grizzlybear2670 Месяц назад
@@anoooouur7304 WHATTT !!!
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Месяц назад
@@anoooouur7304 show me any evidence at all israel took that deal
@Newidhan
@Newidhan Месяц назад
I don't get why israel is painted as the unreasonable party. The ceasefire deal Hamas 'agreed' to essentially means rollback the clock to October 8 and give Hamas everything they want. It's not a ceasefire, it's a demand for Israeli surrender
@seanonraet8327
@seanonraet8327 Месяц назад
It's a demand that they go home and stop bombing civilians and blocking aid?
@inwalters
@inwalters Месяц назад
@@arturferrao7353 They're already there, so that would be tough.
@applepiepieapple5464
@applepiepieapple5464 Месяц назад
Found the mossad agent 🫵
@pistolsniper6281
@pistolsniper6281 Месяц назад
@@arturferrao7353I don’t see how the hostage release is in anyway fair,like how could you think that
@DonaldPrizwan
@DonaldPrizwan Месяц назад
@@arturferrao7353 way to strawman the dudes argument. or maybe you arent intelligent enough to understand that when he said "israeli surrender" he meant in the context of the gaza offensive. this type of behaviour is common in the super left in america right now. it honestly reminds me of debating with theists. you should cut it out, makes you look foolish.
@alexlaza5301
@alexlaza5301 Месяц назад
I am for ceasefire. But this "Ceasefire Proposal" sounds more like a surrender proposal for Israel.
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Месяц назад
there is no ceasefire possible. two sides hate eachother. one must win.
@serrael-182
@serrael-182 27 дней назад
Its not a matter of hate for israel but security... if they would truly hate they would kill 2 million people in gaza in ons week.​@@007kingifrit
@Alexx481
@Alexx481 26 дней назад
​@@007kingifrit Israel will win
@goodlookingcorpse
@goodlookingcorpse Месяц назад
I find it striking that Hamas can say, "We agree to give back the hostages. Well, unless we've killed them all", and a large part of the world will treat this as a good-faith effort at peaceful coexistence.
@dannydxm
@dannydxm Месяц назад
Tells you all you need to know about their supporter's level of morality and intelligence.
@cristinakasselas555
@cristinakasselas555 Месяц назад
I have no idea where that came from ! Hamas added at the deal the released of the West Bank civilians hostages that idf got without any charges including children ! They asked as well for the civilians hostages in the israelis prisons that died, and the idf DO NOT GIVE THEIR BODIES BACK TO THE FAMILIES - that's the point ! Turkyie just arrested some israelis that are accused ( that's what turkish say ) of organs traffic
@magnifiedentertainment7160
@magnifiedentertainment7160 Месяц назад
That hamas deal is ridiculous they are in no place to make demands!
@hope_seeker
@hope_seeker Месяц назад
Hamas says this because of bombings. Israel kills the hostages constantly
@cristinakasselas555
@cristinakasselas555 Месяц назад
hamas added to the deal that all the palestinians civilians held in the israelis cages without any charges to be realised ! And all the bodies of all the palestinians that died in prison to be retuned to the families ! That are the corpses ! Read haaretz instead to listen to interpretations
@ironbolt2678
@ironbolt2678 Месяц назад
It semms funny that Hamas, losing side which provoked a war makes demands like they were celebrating victory in Jerusalem. I hate wars, I cannot understand why someone would want to kill anyone. However, when you play grown up-games, you face grown-up consequences.
@yusteryumeister4601
@yusteryumeister4601 Месяц назад
Nobody disputes that, im concerned that the 'grown-up consequences' are being given mostly to innocent people who are dying
@rubensalsa8128
@rubensalsa8128 Месяц назад
'I hate wars' , two seconds later : 'fk around and find out'. Jesus man, the civilians have nothing to do with the 'grown-up consequences' youre basically jerking off to in the corner. They didn't make the calls, all of the hamas leaders aren't even in Gaza, they're in Qatar chilling whilst all this is happening.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Месяц назад
Because it's the same way Nasser was able to politically win in the Suez crisis despite being militarily defeated
@vod96
@vod96 Месяц назад
Welcome to the last 80 years of the Israeli - Palestinian conflict. Get comfortable
@zUJ7EjVD
@zUJ7EjVD Месяц назад
Saying Hamas started this is a bit wrong. Sure, they started the latest "ramping up" of the war, but Israel has been slowly waging war against Palestine for decades. Death by a thousand cuts doesn't make it any less atrocious.
@Elongated_Muskrat
@Elongated_Muskrat Месяц назад
So it was more like a list of demands from Hamas?
@akashzz4347
@akashzz4347 Месяц назад
not even a fool would accept this deal.
@TheJackb45
@TheJackb45 Месяц назад
a good deal is when both parties feel they have been fooled
@alfredjo-kx1gl
@alfredjo-kx1gl Месяц назад
well Israel had already accepted it
@infidelheretic923
@infidelheretic923 Месяц назад
​@@alfredjo-kx1gl Not so. Another nation accepted it on their behalf.
@alfredjo-kx1gl
@alfredjo-kx1gl Месяц назад
@@infidelheretic923 cool buddy your opinion doesn't really matter but Israel literally agreed to it and secretary of state wanted to blame hamas so bad and was like hamas can end the war right now, when they accepted it it shook the americans and israelies bcz they were not expecting it, and hence the media blackout
@dswiftie8991
@dswiftie8991 Месяц назад
@@alfredjo-kx1glisrael didn’t accept this deal. It accepted a different deal that was suggested by Egypt 2 days earlier, but Hamas made changes and added new conditions that Israel never agreed to, and then said they “accepted “ the deal. It was a clear ruse meant to put israel in a bad light and you clearly fell for it.
@kjhajueg_2731
@kjhajueg_2731 Месяц назад
Your report is not correct. Netaniyahu or any other, Israeli side did not agree at any stage to the ambiguity "live or dead" hostages and not to the number of 33 of those. This basically means that Hamas can return 3 bodies every week and say that they respect this agreement.
@g-forcemapping8454
@g-forcemapping8454 29 дней назад
Also Israel wanted 3 bodies every 3 days.
@TheOutsider-vc1hy
@TheOutsider-vc1hy Месяц назад
Can't figure out why Israel would've said no to this... 'proposal'. /sarcasm. Seriously, why would Israel agree to these ridiculous terms that don't even release no where near all the hostages, and then Hamas having the audacity of demanding Palestinian prisoners' freedom for the bodies of said hostages.
@lrmry
@lrmry Месяц назад
Hamas agreed to a deal they negotiated with themselves 🤦‍♀️
@BENCHARSK1
@BENCHARSK1 Месяц назад
I really appreciate you guys so much, theres so many political commentator RU-vidrs now that will say completely different things about what should be just facts of the matter, i read the deal and i dont like how everyone is completely misrepresentating it to pander to there side, keep going and much love from Canada.
@Paraneoz
@Paraneoz Месяц назад
No wonder they said no if that's the deal, crazy to make such demands when youre on the loosing end.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Месяц назад
3:59
@oooshafiqooo
@oooshafiqooo Месяц назад
they accepted bruh. but then they dont what?
@yayfly7349
@yayfly7349 Месяц назад
maybe ask Hamas to actually spend their funds on bomb shelters rather than building more tunnels or military setups in hospitals
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j Месяц назад
​Whataboutism. That's like telling Ukraine to divert military aid to building more bunkers
@myoko343
@myoko343 Месяц назад
Israel is losing in the long run. It's image is forever tarnished and a pariah state. It is in free fall babe. WHat a beautiful thing
@lforlight
@lforlight 26 дней назад
Israel won't agree to a deal that leaves Hamas standing in the end of the war. Hamas won't agree to a deal that doesn't force Israel to stop fighting while Hamas is still in power. Both sides have said so, and so no deal can be had. It's painfully obvious that whatever Hamas claimed to agree to hasn't come from Israel, and therefore is simply proposing an offer rather than accepting one.
@shohamgodel
@shohamgodel Месяц назад
This is not "His invention of Gaza." I strongly oppose Netanyahu, but this is an Israeli response that is widely supported.
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Месяц назад
Please tell me next how this excuses saying Israel must be genocided
@user-bs9hm6gg9i
@user-bs9hm6gg9i Месяц назад
why shouldnt it be supported? us and britain interventions in iraq and aphganistan alone caused way more civilian deaths,thousands of miles away from europe let alone the us...we are protecting our homes and prevent another 1929 hebron and safed massacre or 1941 farhud or seyfo like the assyriacs faced.
@krombopulos_michael
@krombopulos_michael Месяц назад
I don't think they were trying to single him out as being the only Israeli wanting to invade, they're just saying that because he is the leader of Israel. If you had a video about Ukraine trying to take back a city controlled by Russia, they could call it "Zelensky's counter offensive" or "Ukraine's counteroffensive" and it would mean the same thing.
@GracefulBanana
@GracefulBanana Месяц назад
WIDELY SUPPORTED? By who 😭
@litterbox2010
@litterbox2010 Месяц назад
It doesn't matter if something evil is popular or 'widely supported'. That doesn't justify the evil.
@Max11B
@Max11B Месяц назад
Hamas proposal was a joke. They don’t want a ceasefire. To say otherwise is a joke also
@XquizitRush
@XquizitRush Месяц назад
Actually they do, but they way overestimated their negotiating power with Israel, thinking that World pressure would lead to Israel's acceptance to their ridiculous proposal.
@Max11B
@Max11B Месяц назад
@@XquizitRush yeah I’m sure 😂
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Месяц назад
@user-et7wb3ct3o isreal's ceasefires are essentially exactly what we said to germany in ww2. surrender unconditionally. not unreasonable at all given how evil hamas is
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 Месяц назад
Trying to buy time and try to help PR but doing it at the last moment to different terms that the other party didn’t agree to looks desperate. To be fair, they aren’t exactly winning so a desperate situation is a rather apt description
@NDNBMirli
@NDNBMirli Месяц назад
So now you call palestinians nazi​@@007kingifrit
@Atheist_Indian
@Atheist_Indian Месяц назад
Leaving Hamas is like letting a snake live in your bed , Israel must not do that
@Jennyeq
@Jennyeq Месяц назад
humanity must not let that happen. Yesterday they are coming after the Jews, tomorrow they'll come after the other 'non believers'.
@Atheist_Indian
@Atheist_Indian Месяц назад
@@Jennyeq As a Kafir , well said brother
@jayrogan1835
@jayrogan1835 Месяц назад
Then this isnt the right way of doing it. Israel has only galvanized Hamas support and if there goal was to truly eradicate hamas it would not be through the displacement of 2 million people and the death of 30,836 civilians.
@Atheist_Indian
@Atheist_Indian Месяц назад
@@jayrogan1835 then what are the other options available to Israel , can you tell me
@harlowida
@harlowida Месяц назад
Israel is the snake in this case. They’ve killed thousands of children and women
@rmmvw
@rmmvw Месяц назад
It's VERY telling that Hamas wants a ceasefire and not a treaty/truce. Shows that they're wanting to go back in and fight again. Peace is never an option.
@bapo224
@bapo224 Месяц назад
Did you not watch the video? Stage 3 is clearly meant as permanent peace... Israel is literally the one that keeps proposing temporary ceasefires for 24 and 48 hour periods...
@moharshad6882
@moharshad6882 Месяц назад
Exactly, it’s an idealogy, an idealogy of hate, what do u thinks ganna happend after this war? After all these innocent Palestinians dying, losing their family members and getting there house bombed? It’s ganna grow, see this is the problem u Americans/westerners don’t get, u all think Israel wants peace with Palestinians but that’s not true at all, they wanna take Gaza and West Bank, they wanna push these Palestinians out
@limodemh5468
@limodemh5468 Месяц назад
0:46 You said "peace agreement", but it is not a peace agreement with the Palestinians. What was proposed was a ceasefire for a few years, Hamas will receive aid from all over the world and will attack again after this. With his stated and practical goal of destroying Israel then there was no peace. Recently there was an interview (from a month ago) with the leader of Hamas who clearly says that this step is only to promote the destruction of Israel.
@cristinakasselas555
@cristinakasselas555 Месяц назад
''Hamas will receive aid '' is that ILEGAL under the international law ? Or are we still fooling that only israel is the one to right to defence ?! Beside Blinken was the one spiting on every channels on Fri that hamas HAVE TO ACCEPT the offer as is a great one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then when they add their demands and accept the deal, put up with the CIA they are the villain ! We all can see it on display we don't need anymore translation
@adamelghalmi9771
@adamelghalmi9771 Месяц назад
it literally isnt... the deal was for a permanent ceasefire, and cessation of all hostilities for the forseeable future
@iselmon
@iselmon Месяц назад
@@adamelghalmi9771 There was a permanent ceasefire in place before 7/10. Hamas' word is worth shit.
@deficrypto1234
@deficrypto1234 Месяц назад
Provide evidence of the Hamas leader stating they are promoting the destruction of Israel.
@dVector13
@dVector13 Месяц назад
Love how you quote hamas leadership on destroying israel. I wonder what your thoughts are on Ben-Gvir's equally ludicrous statements regarding palestine?
@riderramblings
@riderramblings Месяц назад
Could you do a video on why no one is discussing or producing videos etc. about the other atrocities happening in the Middle East and Africa? It seems these atrocities are, in some cases, many thousands of times worse than what is happening in Israel.
@theanarchist4312
@theanarchist4312 Месяц назад
theres atrocities in israel?
@kunikloy477
@kunikloy477 Месяц назад
So according to Hamas, 1 isrealis worth 50 Palestinians?
@mrcocoloco7200
@mrcocoloco7200 24 дня назад
Yes
@timothygallagher978
@timothygallagher978 Месяц назад
Wow, you really hit the "three things" of "three things". Normally it boils down to "the way we see it comes down to three things" or "two reasons". Straight up every video has the inevitable "three things" moment.
@ragglefraggle9111
@ragglefraggle9111 Месяц назад
The only reason Hamas ever made any sort of agreement was because they would be expelled from Qatar otherwise
@gershonmat4162
@gershonmat4162 Месяц назад
Oh shit here we go again, toxic comments in 1... 2...3
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 Месяц назад
Don’t forget the obligatory bots
@gangstadrz9326
@gangstadrz9326 24 дня назад
Poop
@TheRealPingu
@TheRealPingu Месяц назад
The theatre of war.
@michaelkoss24
@michaelkoss24 Месяц назад
Just curious - why did you not do a similar video on the multiple ceasefire deals rejected by Hamas over the past several weeks. Seems that is rather pertinent to how we got to this situation. Your reporting makes it seem as though Israel has not been at the negotiating table. Regretful TLDR now chooses to paint a biased picture, I had really enjoyed your reporting in the past but it seems, I should probably re-evaluate my trust in what your organisation puts out there if cherry picking facts is your method.
@ejt3708
@ejt3708 Месяц назад
Yep. Seems biased. Not really interested in buying Nebula for that noise!
@eliziv8805
@eliziv8805 Месяц назад
He is obviously biased against Israel. Just like most leftist Europeans. Israel must fight for its life and win!
@jamessloven2204
@jamessloven2204 Месяц назад
It is kind of ridiculous that it is portrayed as Israel escalating the war. Hamas is proposing a deal as if they have won the war, and not as if they are being destroyed for committing crimes against humanity.
@andithanoj8372
@andithanoj8372 Месяц назад
Crimes against humanity😂😂😂​@@jamessloven2204
@taylorbolduc1763
@taylorbolduc1763 Месяц назад
Hamas isnt in a position to negotiate. Anything less than unconditional surrender shouldnt be acceptable to Israel
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 Месяц назад
they are winning though
@getblacked1351
@getblacked1351 Месяц назад
​@@0MVR_0 how?
@Mudi106
@Mudi106 Месяц назад
​@@getblacked1351have you seen how many Palestine flags are flying around the world and how much israel is becoming a pariah state? Palestine was almost forgotten by the West, and now students in the West are protesting in favor of Palestine.
@getblacked1351
@getblacked1351 Месяц назад
@@Mudi106 and that did nothing
@frgwyn3760
@frgwyn3760 Месяц назад
@@getblacked1351it is slowly, browns university so far has stopped its ties with Israel. It’s hard though.
@CIS101
@CIS101 Месяц назад
Just prior to 2:44 that should be "fewer details" because details are countable or potentially countable. So for example less water, or fewer water molecules.
@Hemalkukurkure
@Hemalkukurkure Месяц назад
Hamas's expectations of israel to accept their "proposal" Is ludicrous at best and flat out dumb at worst
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Месяц назад
It's a clever move that ordinary citizens like you will never be able to understand. By making this "proposal", Israel can no longer blame Hamas for not releasing hostages, because now they made a proposal. If Israel refuses the proposal, it will make Israel look like a warmonger and it will lose further more international support.
@Hemalkukurkure
@Hemalkukurkure Месяц назад
@@baiwuli6781 but Israel can blame hamas for this "proposal"
@baiwuli6781
@baiwuli6781 Месяц назад
@@Hemalkukurkure blame hamas for what ? for showing the intention to end (at least temporary) the war and release hostages ? This is how most people will be see it. It's not wise to do that.
@Hemalkukurkure
@Hemalkukurkure Месяц назад
@@baiwuli6781 so u admit that hamas gaslights ppl?
@entertainment-mj1rv
@entertainment-mj1rv Месяц назад
if someone came to your house, occupied 80% of it killed half your family and while trying to kill the rest? would you say the same thing?
Месяц назад
What am I missing, but... If Hamas cares about their ppl they should just unconditionally surrender.
@Sirstarya
@Sirstarya Месяц назад
Here is the neat point they don’t
@runiccurse990
@runiccurse990 Месяц назад
Why didn't the Soviets and UK just unconditionally surrender to the Nazis
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Месяц назад
@@runiccurse990 the difference is those were countries capable of winning. hamas isn't capable of winning
@jhingoorpatima237
@jhingoorpatima237 Месяц назад
No one care about people in the world but themselves !!!
@VYZD846
@VYZD846 Месяц назад
They don’t 😂
@user-yg7fv3jo8v
@user-yg7fv3jo8v Месяц назад
FACT: On October 7th, Palestinians celebrated in the streets, distributed cakes, and helped kidnap Israelis to Gaza, into the tunnels. They also, in exchange for money, kept the kidnapped individuals in their homes to blend them into the population.
@arturferrao7353
@arturferrao7353 Месяц назад
Any evidence for this claim? Or is just like the beheaded babies and military bases under hospitals?
@cosmiccentaur
@cosmiccentaur Месяц назад
Israeli bot found
@harlowida
@harlowida Месяц назад
Sure hasbara bot. We all know Israelis support the death of 13,000 children
@sowetoninja9398
@sowetoninja9398 Месяц назад
Also, majority of them agreed with Hamas tactics in a survey launched in Gaza. Look at how their kindergarten centers and schools are run, they are full of hate
@phallusy6574
@phallusy6574 Месяц назад
Do the Israelis not do similar or worse? The "settlers"?
@Wholiganu
@Wholiganu 28 дней назад
I find it disgusting that you say that the Rafah assault will damage Israel's standing instead of pointing out it has led to hundreds of deaths with many more to come.
@callformotivation
@callformotivation Месяц назад
Is it me or Netanyahu is wearing the kippah more now than ever before?
@domkieran8077
@domkieran8077 Месяц назад
hah I noticed this video was the first time I saw him wearing one!
@LA-cm9uo
@LA-cm9uo Месяц назад
yes and many israelis are turning back to their faith
@jonathanpriel5013
@jonathanpriel5013 Месяц назад
It is a picture from the Holocaust memorial day ceremony. It is common for secular jews to wear kippa in such ceremonies.
@phallusy6574
@phallusy6574 Месяц назад
he's pulling his hair out
@ilansimon3962
@ilansimon3962 Месяц назад
False… He puts one on only in ceremonies such as the holocaust Memorial Day and next week Memorial Day.
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta Месяц назад
Something tells me Hamas really didn't want a deal buuut, losing that last big area might just kill their movement. Hence suddenly they act nice.
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 Месяц назад
And possibly losing their safe position of being hosted in Qatar
@ConnorCocoas
@ConnorCocoas Месяц назад
And they’re not even “acting”very well
@jorehir
@jorehir Месяц назад
A ridiculous proposal, as if Hamas was on the winning side...
@N7-WAR-HOUND
@N7-WAR-HOUND Месяц назад
Hamas agreed to a deal that was not on the table. It’s a ploy to put pressure on Israel. But history has shown Israel no amount of pressure will stop this war. Slow it yes but not stop it
@insertname5371
@insertname5371 Месяц назад
Ok can we all agree it’s hella sus they made a higher exchange rate for female prisoners?
@bentrinker1937
@bentrinker1937 Месяц назад
It’s sus they want to exchange the ppl they kidnapped the night not even be alive for 50 convicted prisoners.
@moaqyigl
@moaqyigl Месяц назад
its actually higher for female *soldiers*, the reason its specified this way is becouse this deal does not include any male soldiers at all, but they want 50 for soldiers and 30 for civilians.
@cosmicjester6341
@cosmicjester6341 Месяц назад
It's psychological warfare. Hamas is using rape and violence against women as means to their end.
@oriontigley5089
@oriontigley5089 Месяц назад
It's very telling
@MichaelDavis-mk4me
@MichaelDavis-mk4me Месяц назад
Females have much more use for Hamas soldiers, they wouldn't mind keeping them. It's horrible, but it's the truth.
@Ominous_Walrus
@Ominous_Walrus Месяц назад
The poster pointing at rafah at 00:14 looks like a poster that was dropped on allied soldiers in dunkirk.
@sudiptokumar986
@sudiptokumar986 29 дней назад
The problem is that you can say that it's the same deal Israel proposed. But the question is when? At that time Israel did not attack and Hamas did not accept. Now the wheel has turned. And the same can not be applied.
@kumbaya69421
@kumbaya69421 Месяц назад
Not going to lie. Why sre Hamas acting like they have the upper hand here??
@serrael-182
@serrael-182 27 дней назад
Because thsnks to lefties and muslims all over the world they somehow have good chances.
@ClamTheClammy
@ClamTheClammy Месяц назад
They are not in a position to negotiate 😅
@dannydenison6253
@dannydenison6253 Месяц назад
You have no idea how precarious of a position this Jnocide has put Israel in. They could see a vast swing in opinions Due to the ICC, ICJ, and public sentiment in general. They are on the route of the apartide south african government. Pressure is low now, but building extremely rapidly. Every major move risks being the Catalyst.
@santostv.
@santostv. Месяц назад
I agree, but doesn’t change the fact that both sides are religious fanatics idiots that don’t care about their people.
@cyclomb
@cyclomb Месяц назад
Israel doesn’t care about hostages 🤷🏻‍♂️
@cristinakasselas555
@cristinakasselas555 Месяц назад
Oh but they are ! Just like the americans did it with Neldon Madela, all the guerilla fighters, the talibans the left over of the soviets and on and on and on ! Just like that !
@willpickering5829
@willpickering5829 Месяц назад
@@dannydenison6253Seems like you’ve already made your conclusions and Israel has nothing to lose in that regard; might as well continue to Rafah then.
@user_xsr
@user_xsr Месяц назад
Under qatar, egypt and UN. Ha, yea right
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 Месяц назад
They are mediator?
@infidelheretic923
@infidelheretic923 Месяц назад
New proposal. Hamas dies or surrenders. Then ceasefire. How's that?
@Tybold63
@Tybold63 Месяц назад
Something like that yes..
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 Месяц назад
That not ceasefire
@davidaway753
@davidaway753 Месяц назад
They wouldn't be able to throw their gays off the rooftops if there will be no rooftops left in Gaza.
@EKFN117
@EKFN117 Месяц назад
I Wonder how many gay people died as a result of Israeli war effort....
@EKFN117
@EKFN117 Месяц назад
I wonder how many gay people have been killed from Israeli bombing....
@echidnaralsei1473
@echidnaralsei1473 Месяц назад
werent those clips of isis? that was like over at iraq-syria
@EKFN117
@EKFN117 Месяц назад
I wonder how many gay people were buried as a result of the Israeli war effort......
@llaammeerr2506
@llaammeerr2506 Месяц назад
​@@EKFN117but unlike hamas, israel wasn't targetting gay people
@PedroOjeda
@PedroOjeda Месяц назад
Can you site the poll for Israeli and use of force in Gaza?
@yanivgammeter7999
@yanivgammeter7999 Месяц назад
Hamas didnt accept an Israeli ceasefire proposal. They received, modified and accepted their own modified proposal. No agreement between two parties works like that. Imagine you make an offer on a house, and the owner doubles the price and accepts the modified offer. Hamas aren't serious. There only goal is to destroy Israeli credibility, with no fear for their own because they're already a terrorist group. Btw anyone can find their modified ceasefire "agreement", it's in Arabic though, so you have to translate it if you dont speak Arabic.
@BS-jw7nf
@BS-jw7nf Месяц назад
Good video, thanks tldr
@ejt3708
@ejt3708 Месяц назад
Don't agree. TLDR has framed the "deal" as something Israel agreed to. You only hear that they never agreed by implication. Confusing and Pro-Hamas storyline.
@christopherk140
@christopherk140 Месяц назад
What a one sided deal?????? NO DEAL BY ANYONE SANE!
@madhatter2465
@madhatter2465 Месяц назад
Don't you get it! There are none left
@kami_in_the_skye
@kami_in_the_skye Месяц назад
Because Israel already inadvertently took them all out themselves turning Gaza to rubble because they never actually gave a damn about the hostages in the first place.
@lrmry
@lrmry Месяц назад
Obviously false- they’ve provided proof of life for several
@harelswissa9821
@harelswissa9821 28 дней назад
Israel agreed 3 weeks ago on a deal, the deal Hamas agreed on was NOT the same one presented to Israel, the key difference is that Hamas is not required to bring living people, he can exchange 33 bodies and keep the living hostages
@Deepakkumar-pn6vw
@Deepakkumar-pn6vw Месяц назад
Crafting such an agreement shows Hamas hasn't been satisfied yet with Palestinian sufferings.
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 Месяц назад
Where to?😂 Raffa is on the Egypt border
@andrewpritt8739
@andrewpritt8739 Месяц назад
did you look at the map theres the coast☠
@advakart4208
@advakart4208 Месяц назад
@@andrewpritt8739 are they supposed to swim to cyprus?
@ykwia1
@ykwia1 Месяц назад
To the east. He mentioned this
@AhmedAli-cf8oz
@AhmedAli-cf8oz Месяц назад
Then why Jews didn't go to British and went to colonize Palestine when British was at their borders
@andrewpritt8739
@andrewpritt8739 Месяц назад
@@advakart4208 Coastal cities big brain?
@psychoticcapybara9362
@psychoticcapybara9362 Месяц назад
Sounds like a very one sided agreement.
@muhammadhabibieamiro3639
@muhammadhabibieamiro3639 Месяц назад
Here we go again
@egylord2623
@egylord2623 Месяц назад
I have a lot of respect for this channel but the title and thumbnail are misleading. The current title/thumbnail make it look as if the ceasefire deal/negotiations were a factor in deciding whether to invade. The truth is, as stated by Netanyahu in a public address a few days ago, Israel planned to invade Rafah regardless of whether a ceasefire deal is reached or not. Do not (even if unintentionally) justify for Israel.
@krieg_guardsman9548
@krieg_guardsman9548 Месяц назад
Not going to lie that deal sucked. Can't even get living hostages in the first part.
@eranhaim9913
@eranhaim9913 Месяц назад
yet the US pressures Israel to accept this deal cause Biden is about to lose the elections. the US flips like a steak and can't be trusted long term. also" "I agree to getting all my friends out of prison, retain my regime, rearm and rebuild all the tunnels to do it all over again in the not so distant future, I also agree to getting BJ from Taylor Swift, and getting 2 unicorns that sing in Arabic" - hamas, probably
@KelticStingray
@KelticStingray Месяц назад
Theres probably very few hostages left.
@lordlorian81
@lordlorian81 Месяц назад
Plan that hamas agreed on Is full capitulation of israel or something like that Israel would never agree to something like that
@heleneklompas5084
@heleneklompas5084 Месяц назад
Hamas deal can not be recognized. As other 7 Oct-like attacks. As well as Hamas attempts to blame Israel for not accepting bizarre deals
@Gallalad1
@Gallalad1 Месяц назад
I find it interesting that Hamas only accepted the deal the moment Israel began to start the operation and was giving civilians time to evacuate. They had plenty of time before. It reeks of bad faith
@entertainment-mj1rv
@entertainment-mj1rv Месяц назад
bad faith? coming from Israel, who want to expel all Palestinians from their lands? bullshit
@jakegarvin7634
@jakegarvin7634 27 дней назад
Is it just me or does that ceasefire deal sound kind've insulting?
@shojimoko
@shojimoko 28 дней назад
This is sound like demand from losing side lol
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff Месяц назад
Hamas have played their last game with the joke of a proposal. They don't seem to know or don't care that they are losing. They'd rather every Gazan die than surrender and/or give up power. This is par for the course with them.
@gideonmele1556
@gideonmele1556 Месяц назад
IIRC it had been officially stated by them as such and would essentially be PR for their cause. Mid-2000’s since. Add in that their polling numbers weren’t doing too well just before October
@jakethegardenrake8418
@jakethegardenrake8418 Месяц назад
I appreciate that you guys seem to have no political bias whatsoever, keeping it strictly to informative news. Very professional
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 Месяц назад
They are anti-Israel. They call Israel settlements in Judea and Samaria (Israel sovereign territory under international law) "illegal"
@GracefulBanana
@GracefulBanana Месяц назад
They seem very biased towards Israel to me but better than most publications in that regard so I guess I’ll get what I can take
@Joel86543
@Joel86543 Месяц назад
​@@GracefulBananaIt only looks biased to you because you are probably used to seeing pro Palestinian news. A person whatching pro Israel news would say this is pro Palestinian. It really comes down to what your normal is
@Monkey_D_Luffy56
@Monkey_D_Luffy56 Месяц назад
​@@GracefulBanana you are probably well educated about this situation and I want to ask you something since you are " UNBIASED " I'm just curious, really curious. . . why would Hamas kill a bunch of people then celebrate and then take innocent people ( children, women, etc etc ) as hostages? What's their goal?
@kwader_1404
@kwader_1404 Месяц назад
And civillian children who will pay the price
@BertWithoutErnie
@BertWithoutErnie Месяц назад
Maybe hamas have their plans thats why they triggered it. Who knows 💁
@leejackson3268
@leejackson3268 Месяц назад
hamas wants their own people to die because this gets them PR. that's why they use them as human shields
@ThePandafriend
@ThePandafriend 29 дней назад
​@@leejackson3268 We need to stop promoting the "human shields" narrative. Yes, a portion could be considered "human shields", but many bring their children to places for which bombings are anounced deliberately. The Islamic mindset is pretty insane. Many are happily becoming "martyrs". If they would value life there would be way less civilian casualties. Just listen to what Muslims are saying, especially what they are saying in Arabic.
@troigheohinneirghe7378
@troigheohinneirghe7378 28 дней назад
Why quote "Siege of Gaza"? Is it not a siege?
@user-lp2zn3ux1x
@user-lp2zn3ux1x Месяц назад
I want a ceasefire but Israel is right-there is not much in this deal for them.
@yuvalharel3537
@yuvalharel3537 Месяц назад
2:10 you forgot to mention that those 18 hostages are dead
@kobusvanstaden3747
@kobusvanstaden3747 Месяц назад
Spelling errors are creeping in more often. Solider instead of soldier
@steffenberr6760
@steffenberr6760 Месяц назад
Around 30k civilian deaths is the best case scenario if evacuation is impossible. Thats comparable to the battle of mosul. The thought of the Soviets not invading berlin to finish off the nazis because “wont somebody think of the poor civilians” would have been laughable.
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 Месяц назад
What about Famine?
@user-bs9hm6gg9i
@user-bs9hm6gg9i Месяц назад
@@tiglishnobody8750 so far the only famine takes place in yemen where 80 thousand children starved to death. no mess protests and exaggerated coverage by qatari funded media on that .check the reports again(not ones done by the UN and its tens of islamist dictatorial regimes) and you will see there is no famine in gaza. they warned of famine in gaza years before 7th of october. suprise suprise -no famine there . like they have been sying since the 1920s the hebrews have a plan to take over al aqsa mosque...
@harlowida
@harlowida Месяц назад
The only n*zis here are the isr*lis and your number on mosul is complete and utter lie. And unlike ww2 we’ve something called Geneva convention and human rights
@steffenberr6760
@steffenberr6760 Месяц назад
@@tiglishnobody8750 thats what happens when a war starts and the neighboring country wont allow civilians evacuations. If you dont like it then dont start wars. Of course people like you are only protesting now because its clear hamas will lose. If you truly cared for civilians people like you would have condemned what started the war as this was always going to be the inevitable outcome
@harlowida
@harlowida Месяц назад
Dude says “best case scenario” to 30k human beings dead out of which 13k are children. The only Nazis here are the Israelis and unlike ww2, we’ve something called the Geneva convention now. You can’t just go on a bloody rampage on women and children. And you’re completely lying about mosul. Typical Zionist
@Fei_Rei
@Fei_Rei Месяц назад
You need to clarify what is Khan Yunis looks like? For Rafah, you can still has building as shelter from rain, wind, heat or cold. Plus, there is no existing Humanitarian center in Khan Yunis but probably new center at the flat destroyed place. Also, 1.5m people need to move from Rafah to Khan Yunis either by 'car', donkey/horse or walking. They need to walk for tens of kilometer on the uncertain safety road until they reach 'safer zone' in Khan Yunis. Gaza already at famine, it will be worst if they force to move to nowhere safe every single time the IDF order them to do evacuate.
@bapo224
@bapo224 Месяц назад
Yeah like Israel really expected them to just teleport to Khan Younis and what are 1.5m people gonna do at that pile of rubble?
@dannydenison6253
@dannydenison6253 Месяц назад
Exactly just another way to pretend its not what it is. An ethnic cleansing via Jnocide. Its always been an ethnic cleansing, 70+ years of it.
@JTP1999
@JTP1999 Месяц назад
​@@bapo224 Don't blame Israel for Hamas' inability to care for it's civilians.
@cristinakasselas555
@cristinakasselas555 Месяц назад
@@JTP1999 israel is responsible for all for the pas 75 years ! And we all see it as facts and people talk now days not like in germany 1938, besides until 1987 hamas was not even existed, and until 2000 ans something were not on the government position
@Trash_prince
@Trash_prince Месяц назад
@@cristinakasselas555 They independent since 2005, biggest mistake Israel did was to pull out of Gaza
@kashcash2876
@kashcash2876 Месяц назад
Like Mosad Yousef said, " There is NO deal with the devil" And the audacity of Hamas to make demands after their Oct 7 massacre is appalling
@louie8346
@louie8346 Месяц назад
My brain hurts trying to make sense of this. Time to watch cats
@tronskywalker3633
@tronskywalker3633 Месяц назад
3:40 israel never exchanged dead prisoners. In international law this is actually prohibited to deal with the dead.
@AhmedAli-cf8oz
@AhmedAli-cf8oz Месяц назад
Share with me what part of international law say this and remember that international law say Israel is a terrorist entity years and years ago
@armintargaryen9216
@armintargaryen9216 Месяц назад
Not commenting on the fact itself, but when has International Law stopped Israel?
@shevthegreb757
@shevthegreb757 Месяц назад
@@armintargaryen9216It stopped them from invading rafah earlier.
@shaeleable
@shaeleable Месяц назад
@@armintargaryen9216 when did it stop hamass?
@smalltime0
@smalltime0 Месяц назад
@@shaeleable Hamas isn't a state actor in Israel's eyes
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