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Paint Perspective Podcast episode 50, featuring what we REALLY think about VALLEJO...
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This week we discuss one of the biggest brands in miniature painting… Vallejo. But ss seasoned painters what do we REALLY think of the brand and their products?
In this episode, we discuss our experiences with Vallejo, their paint ranges and products - and perhaps bust a few myths about them.
Expect to learn what we look for in a quality paint, some things to know and avoid, and whether or not they deserve a spot in your painting arsenal (beginner or pro).
Also in this episode, we discuss the rise of spudchop, free warhammer and the infamous barrel-gate! Also expect to hear some of our listeners comments, question of the week and of course our parting hobby hacks!
(Main topic at 20:51)
0:00:00 Intro
0:00:34 Teacher James
0:03:48 The gift of time
0:05:42 SPUDCHOP!
0:10:11 Childhood arts & crafts
0:11:55 Free Warhammer
0:14:04 The ‘big jam’ agenda
0:15:16 Barrel Gate
0:20:51 What we REALLY think about VALLEJO
0:22:07 Accessibility
0:26:34 Name system
0:31:24 Paint quality
0:35:58 Airbrush paints
0:41:01 Primers
0:44:43 Other air products
0:47:58 Model Colour Consistency
0:50:26 Hobby products
0:57:01 QOTW: When are you not a beginner?
1:02:11 HH: Ditching paper towels
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@SiegeStudios 3 месяца назад

Keep these episode weekly, and free, by leaving a 5 star review over at Apple Podcasts: shorturl.at/fCIT8 We'll read the best ones out on the show!

@alexwembridge5961 3 месяца назад

Here's me thinking all the idiots not subscribed, and lo and behold, I was one of them. Now subscribed obviously.

@regularbear 3 месяца назад

The Vallejo paint names being confusing is a bad take. "What color is that? WAAGH flesh" vs "What color is that? Flat Green"

@lim4091 3 месяца назад

Totally agree. My guy, what the fuck is an abaddon? Doesn’t make any sense whatsoever

@Elfhelm 3 месяца назад

They are only confusing for 5 minutes if you have nevery used any paint other than Citadel; like dudes, you are painting for a decade now, venture a bit and expand horizons

@regularbear 3 месяца назад

@@somerandomguy180 exactly. If you want sci-fi fantasy names just use Vallejo Game color

@Hudston 2 месяца назад

I don't know, I think XV-88 is pretty self explanatory! 😉

@MisterF946 3 месяца назад

Seige Studios podcast - 20% excellent advice. 80% arguing about what they said last week.

@kylekeenan3485 3 месяца назад

Wouldn't have it any other way 🤣

@HappyDuude 3 месяца назад

Confused on vallejo primer - have used it through both airbrush, and in extreme case, brush on - and had zero issues. I usually let any primer cure, or aersol degas, for a day. Edit - on plastic

@ObjectiveMedia Месяц назад

Id like to point out the fact that vallejo are an extremely rare example of truly environmentally responsible, global company. They’re the only major paint/art supply companies that refuse to use toxic petrochemicals in their products (hence the slightly different primer formulation/behaviour - I actually prefer vallejo primer over any other I’ve tried personally). Not only that but their products are amazing in terms of performance and consistency. Easily the best paint company out there imo.

@mooresimon2586 2 месяца назад

On the mini fridge, its actually a trick of the trade. Im a Cabinetmaker and have done a fair bit of spray painting in my time and have allways kept pre mixed lacquers in the fridge overnight to keep from curing, only way to store 2 pac lacquers after being mixed. A mini fridge in my hobby room makes perfectly good sense - I need one.

@leighbrown5430 3 месяца назад

Oh man I used to remember Beaties ! what nostalgia to hear that name again !

@epone3488 3 месяца назад

Valleojo colour names ARE useful IF you come from a Historical's painting background many of (if not all) use the names given by the historical organisation or the actual historic generic name for the color (remember uniforms of the 1800's were very colorful and each of those colours really used a actual colour name for the colour like "Prussian blue" "sea green" "dark red" and so on ) Then also naming of colours from WWI and WWII etc for more colour variations forming for naval and air sources (which is where Pale blue grey and Blue grey pale etc came from).

@kylekeenan3485 3 месяца назад

You make a great point for the model colour range, but the new GameColor range is aimed at fantasy users like us in 40k and those names aren't used in the same way.

@CPTmason509 3 месяца назад

Great show as always. It had become a thing i look forward to every week and putting it on helps me drive through the things Im not as excited to paint (like infinite glazing). Already looking forward to next episode!

@davidmuir6603 День назад

As I understand it, Game colour was brought about when GW were looking for a new paint maker for Citadel paints but the deal went through so they already had the R&D done so they brought out the Game Colour range

@DJC_8819 4 дня назад

Oh mate, Beatties in Colchester in the 90s....great shop...what a blast from the past

@758richy 3 месяца назад

46:44 I think something important to note with the flow improver chat is that Flow Improver, and AIRBRUSH Flow Improver, are two different things with different chemical makeups and properties. While you can use Airbrush Flow Improver with a brush just fine, you should not use the the flow improver made for regular brushes through an airbrush as it actually makes the paint stick together and not atomise properly, which is counter to how an airbrush works. This is another one of those unfortunate naming conventions in this hobby where much like the Pale Blue/Grey vs. Pale Grey/Blue; Flow Improver and Airbrush Flow Improver just aren't the same thing.

@ObjectiveMedia Месяц назад

Interesting take that Ive never heard before. Gona have to look into this now.

@sonicwingnut 3 месяца назад

I'm quite glad to hear people using airbrush paints as pre-thinned brush paints - my local Travelling Man was selling off all their citadel air paints for like 50p each so I bought a massive bag of them and was quite pleased using a few of them straight out of the pot.

@wizkidme 3 месяца назад

heard this mentioned somewhere, but I'm less sure that GW's paint names are there due to trademarking. I think its much more so that a customer looking up how to paint up their space marines ends up googling terms that will only bring up GW paints, instead of introducing them to the dozen other brands that are out there competing

@MB-fv4mf 2 месяца назад

Good theory but it’s been confirmed that they did due to trademarking. Check painting phase - contrast paint episode

@MunchyDragon 2 месяца назад

I use a Tea towel for drying brush and getting paint off for drybrushing (think I have used the same one for 4 years still need to be gentle with it but it will absorb excess moisture with a dab on the towel as its designed to do that on much bigger scale)

@DJRockford83 3 месяца назад

I used to make model planes and the serial number thing makes perfect sense so you get the exact historically accurate base colour. I've recently started using AK intense colours and i think I'll stick with them for a while for minis, they've got the right balance of properties for mini paint

@758richy 3 месяца назад

I've been using AK paints for awhile now, and man, I just find them to be so much better than any other paints I've used. Except for that magic Vallejo Black... that particular black is yet to be surpassed.

@bluecapgun785 3 месяца назад

Hey guys! Thanks for responding to my comparison of painting and cooking! Cheers. In regards to which potato would be best, I am uniquely qualified to answer this question... as an Atlantic Canadian, who's worked predominantly in pubs, I both remember painting with potatoes in school, and have worked with hundreds of pounds of taters. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that Russet potatos make the best best painting medium/wet palette/dunking bucket. They're starchy and dense, and they tend to stay firm longer than other potatoes. We need to see that potato competition video now!

@jimvesal6012 3 месяца назад

Vallejo has really bad distribution in North Armerica, so I have found it much harder to find than other brands,

@horriblypink 3 месяца назад

It got bad all our LGS stores have discounted stock.

@aspect0 3 месяца назад

i use my airbrush on a low PSI to dust my models if i need to, and it can also help non-aggressively dry acrylic paint from a distance

@yellowbellytabletop 2 месяца назад

Great podcast. As a massive Model Color fan I do feel they would benefit from agitators. I use glass beads in mine. Also, having bought a vortex mixer this year, I have found that some of the range are so heavy and thick a vortex mixer improves their workability massively.

@Bunyip_Studios 3 месяца назад

Beatties Kingston-upon-Thames was the GOAT!! They had everything you could want, the place was huge!! Just started playing around with the Xpress Color range, I'm new to the whole "contrast" style of painting so we'll see how it goes. So far pretty impressed with working time and finish. Going to look at getting the Game Color range in to complement the Xpress Colors

@Kantohammer 2 месяца назад

There's two types of free minis at the GW store. One is the painting demo model. You can choose between a stormcast or a space marine. You get to keep it when you're done. The other is the mini of the month. Each store has a limited supply and you just ask for one when you go in. They are usually a single model from a recent release, so they make for great conversions or test models. For example, I turned the deathwing knight into a chapter-agnostic terminator ancient. I also used the free cryptguard mini to make a crypt ghast courtier without having to sacrifice one of my crypt ghouls.

@kylekeenan3485 3 месяца назад

FYI the GameColor range, has more vibrant and varying tones designed specifically for fantasy painting. If your a 40k player wanting colourful brighter paints, then Game Color is for you! The ModelColor is for more traditional model painting but can equally be used for 40k, if your prefer a more muted colour tone. Also note that the new ModelColor range is comming out soon, so its worth waiting to see the reviews on those.

@probablynotagodpaints 3 месяца назад

As I listen to this I’m painting a base for Mortarion that I made out of Epic Basing bits, milliput and Vallejo texture paste; and the only problem I’ve ever had with Vallejo primer is letting it sit too long and it becoming quite chunky, as a primer though I think it’s excellent, and doesn’t scrape off easily. AK primer, on the other hand, I was able to remove by gently brushing with my fingertips, it looked like I’d sanded it.

@ianfalzonmoon 3 месяца назад

I wanted to thank you! You helped me find the love I was missing. We have been together for a couple of months now and I couldn't be happier. Ice yellow I love you. You highlight and colour my life ❤ thanks guys

@ashes2ashesuk 3 месяца назад

The only problems I had with the Vallejo Primer were while I was learning to use the Airbrush and it was more about blockages. It needs to cure, then once it has it just stays on the mini, at least until it's stripped off. In the first hour after it's applied however, it's very prone to come off.

@alexwembridge5961 3 месяца назад

Great episode, and the rapport between you three really makes it. You touched on this in your essential paints episode but it would be great to hear your best in class for certain colours/materials i.e. Brown leather, without giving too many paint recipe secrets away.

@dan_johnson 3 месяца назад

my hack for dust on miniatures is to use my airbrush compressor and hose to blast off the dust - just turn it on and cover the end with your thumb while it spins up for a minute then give the models a quite blast. Avoids brush hairs etc you might get from a makeup brush.

@The111thGuardsman 3 месяца назад

Just listened on Spotify, congrats on episode 50! I started listening in October time last year and I'm finally caught up! I started really getting into Vallejo paints around a year or two ago, but when I first got an airbrush I bought a bottle of black surface primer and I think it's great, it's the only air paint I use regularly and I still have that same bottle, about 4 years on. Love the podcast and appreciate all the little tips you put out, I've learned a couple things and I can't wait to take part in the monthly painting challenge now I'm caught up. However, is the full run down posted anywhere permanently so I don't have to go back through the episodes and find the full rundown if I ever want to know what next month's is? Cheers! Charlie

@riran_86 3 месяца назад

@SiegeStudios 3 месяца назад

Thank you! Glad you're enjoying it. We're going to put the list in every episode description from now on 🙂

@brettwarner719 3 месяца назад

Vallejo Metal Color has the best metallics on the markets. Vince V isnt wrong.

@HappyDuude 3 месяца назад

Vincey V had a good hobby hack for excess moisture too - using lint free wipes for nails - used in nail art, designed to wick away excess moisture

@johnturner112 2 месяца назад

Rumor was that Game Color was meant to be supplied to GW in the early 1990s when they refreshed their paint range. For whatever reason, that partnership didn't happen, but they had almost a complete compatible set out on the market very quickly.

@beetle5000 2 месяца назад

If you have your airbrush setup you can use that as a duster for your minis too but it’s usually a makeup brush I use also 😎👌

@jaylansdowne17 2 месяца назад

In regards to the primer not sticking is cleaning a sprue with warm soapy water something the team would recommend

@RyanF1313 3 месяца назад

It’s a good idea if you would test air brush primers 🎉

@kgp277 3 месяца назад

Ah gosh, took a breather and forgot how much I missed this podcast! That shoulder pad though. 😂

@jamescurtis2112 3 месяца назад

Your comments on which potato to use in your sudchop episode. I'd aviod mashed potato, & use a hard waxy one to aid the paint transfer onto the mini. You could also use baked potato skin as a fish bowl candle replacement.

@paulplaysgames3828 3 месяца назад

What a shop beatties was, my dad used to take me in every weekend to buy airfix models and hung them on bedroom wall

@rich347 3 месяца назад

Hmm, I've used the vallejo black & grey airbrush primers and have no issues with them. They only time I've chipped some off is when I gouged it with my thumbnail. Maybe there are different factories that produce the product for different areas in the world? Also, I have been really loving Pro Acryl lately. The matte finish is superlative. What do you fine gentleman think of their paints?

@DIGITALDOGMUCK 3 месяца назад

Can't believe you don't get more likes and stuff. Awesome content as always. Love these videos. Keep up the good work guys 🙂

@ronanobrien88 3 месяца назад

100% use the big brush from the makeup set for dusting models. even find myself cleaning my monitor bezels and other random stuff on my desk!

@CrashBangSlam 3 месяца назад

Recently James talked about painting while on holiday. Would love to hear what sort of compact kit he takes with him when he wants to paint outside the studio.

@kylekeenan3485 3 месяца назад

I use the frontier wargaming "Paint Case 2.0", its amazing - I have my 5 models, 50 paints, all my tools, magnifying headset, wet pallette, even a power bank to power the light that came with the case. The only thing I don't have is the water for the water pot. I can highly recommend it. It has upped the amount of painting I do because I have no excuse for not bringing my stuff with me anymore 😁

@CrashBangSlam 3 месяца назад

@@kylekeenan3485 I’ve been thinking about getting it. How ergonomic is it in the long run? Could you comfortably use it as your main painting setup day in and day out, if you’re living in a small apartment?

@scottmason8537 3 месяца назад

I use to use the Vallejo air range with brush when I was doing fifo work mainly dude to being lazy and not liking thinning my paints

@Bobyoudontneeemyname 3 месяца назад

Game color was a direct copy of citadel, color for color almost. I think it (and coat darms) was even what prompted gw to give em such whacky names, as vallejo was using similar names.

@Yavinprints 3 месяца назад

Here's another IKEA tip for you on dust... they sell loads of cheap glass display domes, i have a few different ones on my desk and shelf next to it to keep things WIP from getting dust.

@alexwembridge5961 3 месяца назад

Not sure where I heard it first but thought the wet palette in the fridge was just standard legit advice for keeping it fresh. Although the specific wet palette mini fridge may be a bit too far.

@UntiltedName 3 месяца назад

The free model of the month is just that. But it is first come, first serve. The model changes every month, usually related to some new release. The other free model you can get is the demo model that is either a marine or a stormcast guy. That model it used to show new people the basics of painting.

@aaronjacobs462 2 месяца назад

O my god beates used to love that shop as a kid

@robperkins2085 3 месяца назад

Quality episode as always gents! Thanks!

@Davy.J.Y 2 месяца назад

I love Vallejo paints, they are a pleasure to use.

@fakestreetspirit 3 месяца назад

Potatoes for terrain is the obvious one. Could the starch work as medium?

@jamalhussain9162 3 месяца назад

question and advice, what dropper bottle do you recommend as I'm currently looking?

@CourtneyRoberts1982 3 месяца назад

This is me asking again what the "right" dropper bottle is. Azon is filled with loads of them and I see Army Painter makes some too. What's the communities bottle of choice?

@jorgemontero6384 3 месяца назад

The free mini of the month policies change by location. Some places want you to assemble there, so you don't sell the sprue. Others want you to even try to paint there. And yet there are stores that just lay them on the counter and you can take it and go. Just like there's GW stores where there is no playing, and others where the same people are using the tables at all times.

@maxgregor3201 3 месяца назад

Just putting this out there use a piece of pasta in a kit bash challenge! Extra points for how many varieties of pasta are used!

@bornincrimson 3 месяца назад

At this rate I am looking forward to the miniature finger painting challenge, followed by the rainbow parachute color theory class and naptime.

@Nightss 3 месяца назад

Ready for another banger (not car-related terminology) episode!

@michalanz2612 2 месяца назад

Love the show! I'm really trying to improve my painting and want to try a PDF tutorial. However, there is only a limited list on the store and no Aeldari. Patreon apparently gives access to 300+ tutorials, do you have a list somewhere of what that includes? I'd love to support the channel, but can only really justify it if I get a Visarch, harlequin hq or other Aeldari tutorials to try out. Thanks!

@SiegeStudios 2 месяца назад

We have a tutorial directory on our discord server which is free to join and linked in the description of this video!

@kurisi5563 2 месяца назад

My local store refused to give me a free model of the month lol

@RequiemWraith 3 месяца назад

To echo Joe, I don't think it really matters what level someone is at, it's more important to be aware of your abilities and limitations, and to be actively working on expanding your abilities and reducing your limitations.

@alexwembridge5961 3 месяца назад

I think it only really comes into play where you're going to try something way out of your skill range without the basics sorted, and therefore making it way harder for yourself. Saw a post asking for NNM feedback was basecoat was super thick, and clearly someone just starting out. In that case, probbaly best to set aside the nnm for now and get solid thin basecoats down. But agree is all aspects.

@Mithiras 3 месяца назад

22:35 vallejo is not accessible in canada/USA at all. It's a huge pain in the ass to get. Ak, army painter, pro acryl, gw are the easiest where I am currently to get.

@georgelonghurst2672 3 месяца назад

what do you think of two thin coats ? do you use any of the range ?

@Cranacti 2 месяца назад

I’ll accept my royalties for Spudchop in the form of pro painted shoulder pads 😉

@ESO-ONE 2 месяца назад

I remember Beaties

@karlmoore1837 3 месяца назад

I have found Vallejo to be the best all rounder out there. Model color and game color range are good. More so the game color. I do find there are too many ranges they do and that is just not on, adds too much confusion.

@riran_86 3 месяца назад

Metal Colour has always been highly recommended to me, but it always seems far too thin to use with a brush. I just feel like I'm constantly having to fight it separating and the result is quite inconsistent. Probably a poor workman blaming tool situation tbf

@UntiltedName 3 месяца назад

It's better for covering large surface areas with fat dry brushes. For example a knight skeleton, or parts of a tank. I can do it well enough on a plasticard sheet to where I can air brush half of it, and makeup-dry brush the other half and not be able to tell which side was what. Don't use it for detail work it is way too runny for that. Don't put it on a wet pallet. Only put out a little at a time on a regular pallet, as you need it.

@spilbobaggins 3 месяца назад

Mix the gold with gold pigments and it'll be the best gold you've ever used.

@Bobyoudontneeemyname 3 месяца назад

I use on fine work all the time, i do use a dry pallete and only one drop at a time though.

@iammattc1 Месяц назад

Just use PART of the potato Chip chop.

@SavageBloodWolf 2 месяца назад

Next! 😅

@donkratos5627 3 месяца назад

IRISH POTATO FAMINE EXPLAINED ☝️🧐 James painting Blood Angels in the 1850’s‼️

@Natedecamp 3 месяца назад

Naah. My pile of shame, at least the built models, are sitting on the shelves attached to my desk. So i can always see the painting to do list lol.

@ravenRedwake 3 месяца назад

I haven’t used any of the new new army painter stuff (fanatics?) but their old stuff felt and covered like craft paint. Vallejo has been pretty consistent, I have the colors (and multiples of them) for my armies’ color schemes, basically building trinaries for each color that I use. I try to avoid paint sets because they’re kinda too much shit you don’t need.

@darksheepvids 3 месяца назад

I use VALLEJO for warhammer and models , I agree the names are confusing so I always use the number . The comment of the air paint is also some thing I have found , I dont even use some colours if they are not in the air range . For primers Badger Stynylrez holds the best out of all the acrylic primers I have used and many people feel that way . How ever if you want some thing tough as nails use mr surfacer or tamiya

@Elfhelm 3 месяца назад

Flat red, transparent yellow, sunny skin tone, sooo confusing 🤣

@TheDanever 2 месяца назад

What’s everyone’s go to for a medium for Vallejo paints?

@TheDanever 2 месяца назад

Vallejo flow improver? Never thought of using that

@toferkrz946 2 месяца назад

I just use geedub's Lahmian Medium for everything. It's expensive, but I haven't found a better alternative as of yet.

@richardcahill1234 2 месяца назад

Model Colour Silver is the worst paint I have ever used. Right in the bin.

@rkc61595 3 месяца назад

Heyo

@user-ho6uk4ov4y 3 месяца назад

No you just go in the store and grab a model for free its in a box at the front counter and you walk out. I bring a couple mates and get more then one.

@adaml2910 3 месяца назад

I hate my painting, I don't know why I even bother :(

@BOOMSHOTKPOW 3 месяца назад

Remember that most of what you see online are people who do this professionally, and this hobby is most of what they do with their free time with yeeeeaaaaars of experience behind them. Don't be so hard on yourself keep it up!

@simonbailey585 3 месяца назад

It takes time, and practice, but you do get better. Seriously just start by getting it neat and the rest will follow. You will get there. 😁

@JustPaintz 3 месяца назад

I'm not a great painter but i'm now starting to like my work. Keep at it!

@DJRockford83 3 месяца назад

Do slapchop, pretty much instant results, takes a lot of the pain out of it

@758richy 3 месяца назад

If you like the slapchop look, that's an easy way to get decent results. It is a very distinct look to anyone with a bit of painting experience and not to everyone's taste, but depending on why you're painting, it's a great way to get stuff on the tabletop looking decent. Otherwise, patience and practice goes a long way. As the Seige boys often point out, this hobby has become obsessed with speed, and I know people who will paint a squad of 5 models in an evening or two and then feel down that it doesn't look as good as a single model that took anywhere from dozens to 100+ hours to paint. When it comes to improving, there's certain basics which will usually improve passively with just repetition and painting normally, but that has a certain ceiling to it where you won't improve much further without the intent of actually trying to improve. If you want to learn more advanced techniques then you often need to put the intent behind actually learning and practicing those techniques and being ok with messing up. And again, patience is massive. For example, if you want super smooth glazes, there's no real shortcut, it just takes ages.