What Western scholarship is saying about the Qur'an with Dr Hythem Sidky 

@Martin Ramsbottom We have 100% of the Quran from that time. Watch the video for details.

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What is the most obvious about the Quran is that it is from human intervention as a result of changes from time to time. The Hafs version of the Quran which is widely used by the Muslims in the world today was only issued in 1924 in Cairo which was sponsored by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia just after the fall of the Ottoman Empire in Turkey. The most important of the texual sources of Islamic beliefs is the Quran and second is the Hadith a collection of words and deeds of Muhammad and the third is the biography of Muhammad called the Sira. What the Hadiths tell us about the formation and compilation of the Quran is highly inconvenient. If Muslims pick up a copy of a Quran from any home around the world i doubt they will even find a difference between them.

Excellent. Thank you brother.

@@excelsior31107 >>>The Hafs version of the Quran which is widely used by the Muslims in the world today was only issued in 1924 in Cairo --------------- Those Quran were the PRINTED version.

Brother Josh. I hope it leads you to the right path and light 💡 of Islam. God willing.

God bless you!

Yes... this channel is also helping me to understand Islam. About 8 months ago, I knew nothing about Islam. I'm learning slowly. Peace of God to all

Which university are you learning at? Because I don't want you to waste your time learning wrong information.

@@mohyaldin6492 I am at a university in California. The professors of the Islamic classes are religious Muslims (Sunni) and they teach normative Islamic beliefs and the progression of Islamic Thought from the beginning to 1258 (in one class) and then continued from 1258 to the modern period. The professors are very passionate.

Great points Usman. Many thanks.

@@BloggingTheology -The Prophet (pbuh) warned Muslims that "anyone who kills a non-Muslim citizen will not smell the fragrance of paradise" (Nasai). This indicates his high regard for Christians and Jews whom the Quran entitled “Ahlul-Kitab” (People of the Book) repeatedly and in clear words. This is precisely why the Prophet (pbuh) strongly admonished his followers about the mistreatment with them: He said, "He who wrongs a Jew or a Christian will have myself as his accuser on the Day of Judgment" (Bukhari). Speaking generally about all non-Muslims living in an Islamic country, the Prophet said: "He who hurts a Dhimmi (non-Muslim citizen of an Islamic state) hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys Allah." (Reported by Imam Tabrani) The Prophet also declared: "Whoever hurts a non-Muslim, I am his adversary, and I shall be an adversary to him on the Day of Rising." (Reported by Al Khateeb) Another Hadith report quotes the Prophet (pbuh) as having said, "On the Day of Resurrection I shall dispute with anyone who oppresses a person from among the non-Muslims, or infringes on his right, or puts a responsibility on him which is beyond his capacity or takes something from him against his will." (Reported by Abu Dawood) Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was very much concerned about the protection of the rights of Jews and Christians, as well as other Ahl al-Zimmah (non-Muslim citizens of Islamic state) and religious minorities of the state that he established. A substantial and irrefutable proof of this is that during his lifetime in Arabia, Christians were protected even against foreign invading enemies. The Prophet (pbuh) particularly stressed that religious institutions of other communities should not be harmed. Monasteries, churches and synagogues must be respected, because the Quran itself respects them as the places of worship for the People of the Book, protected by God (Al-Hajj 22: 40). In accordance with this divine commandment, the Prophet (pbuh) concerned himself with the protection of the holy places of the Ahlul-Kitab (People of the Book). Once, a delegation from St. Catherine’s Monastery came to the Prophet (pbuh), requesting his protection. He granted them a charter of rights, which went down well in the Islamic history as the first written document for the protection of minority human rights and respect for their faiths. Here is the letter addressed by the Prophet (pbuh) to the religious leaders of Saint Catherine’s monastery on Mount Sinai who had sought the protection of the Muslims: "This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who follow Christianity, near and far, we are with them (We stand by them). Verily I, the servants of God, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil Allah’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they (Christians) are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval.(Marring a non-muslim is forbidden in Islam)) She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. None of Muslims is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day." -From several ancient and modern rolls preserved in the monastery's library, it has been authenticated that the Covenant of the Prophet (pbuh) played great role in the protection of special privileges for the monks... The monastery was under the protection of the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) himself and later under the Arab and Turkish leaders and Napoleon... This is precisely why it remains safe and intact even today. The historical Fatimid mosque built next to the Orthodox Church is still serving a glaring example of religious co-existence. The Sinai holy sites, which have also been mentioned in the Qur’an, are of paramount historical importance and authenticity... According to the historical records preserved at Sinai, the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) not only knew but also visited the Sinai priests.. It is recorded that when the delegation from Sinai requested a letter of protection from the Prophet (pbuh) in 626 AD, he granted and authorized the covenant by placing his hand upon it.. According to numerous sources, the Turkish Sultan Saleem I (in AD 1517) took the original letter of protection for safekeeping to the royal treasury in Constantinople.. However, he confirmed the monastery’s prerogatives and granted certified copies of this document to the monastery, each depicting the hand print of the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) in token of his having touched the original... This historical document of the Islam’s message of religious tolerance is still preserved in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul..The original document in Arabic can still be seen.. One of the websites working under the project of UNESCO (the United Nations’ Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) states: “The Letter of Protection is known as the Ahtiname, from the Arabic words ahd, which means “obligation,” and name, which means “document, testament.” The document has been instrumental in the protection of the monastery, and as a means of ensuring peaceful and cooperative relations between Christians and Muslims. . The continuous existence of the monastery during fourteen centuries of Islamic rule is a sign of the respect given to this Letter of Protection, and the principles of peace and cooperation that it is in Istanbul.So imagine.The christians are associating Jesus with Allah(the only God) sometimes by thinking that Jesus is God or the son of God.But Still Allah is kind upon them.So that they can come to the only right path(Islam).They should be ashamed that Allah is showing them kindness but they are associating Jesus with Allah.And the Hindus are praying infront of an idol.Shame!!And other religious are also associating someone with Allah.

And the result of that is: A)Uthman burning Qurans. B) hadiths claiming that some quranic verses were lost in battles and some of the companions had also forgotten some verses. C) till today, 37 Arabic Qurans with different meanings. If you say that the different Arabic qurans are the same and have no differences in MEANING then I can show you and prove you wrong.

@@kingofjudah6875 1. Uthman burned all Qurans that were not the same as original to maintain unity 2. Many companions forget verses because they are human. That is why there are tens of Hafiz who knew the whole thing to correct those who forget 3. There is one Quran in arabic, translations of meanings may be different because English is a different language than arabic.

@@kingofjudah6875this is the problem with u guys .getting some information from anti Islamic websites and putting forward those imbecile arguments to prove ur self right which is completely absurd .when will u guys learn .A large number of missionaries and self studies critics like u have been quoting Ismail tradition,or reports hadiths ,which support their claim stating the quaran was not written at the time of its revelation.this is a foolish claim and doesn’t make any sense .Reason the Quaran it self contains many passages which refer to it’s written form.three appear to be four chapters (Surah) of the Quran which refer to the Quaran’s written form explicitly. By no means !indeed it is a message of instruction therefore,whoever wills ,should remember on leaves held in honor exalted,purified in the hands of scribes noble and pious . Surah’ 80:11-16 Here we have references to those scribes who wrote the Quaran on leaves. Minister Abdullah Yusuf Ali his commentary wrote that at the time of the of the revelation of this Surah forty -two or forty five others Surahs had been written and kept by Muslims in Makkah (out of the total Surah 114 chapters ) May this is the glorious quaran ,on a tablet preserved.surah 85:21-22 Above verse is the ultimate proof on the written preservation of it even before the migration of the holy prophet. This is a glorious reading ,In a book well -kept ,Which none but the purified teach this is a revelation from the Lord o the worlds “ Surah 56:77-80 They said : tales of the ancient which he had caused to be written and they are dictated to him morning and evening.22:5 Evidence from Hadith Besides the above verses which refer to the Quaran written form ,there are a also number of hadiths which agree with the above versus : We used to complete the Quaran from small scraps in the presence of the messenger.(Hakim ,Mustadarak) The above Hadith also tells us that the prophet Muhammad was not unaware of the condition of the Quaran with his companions and that he used to guide them while compiling it .Also it tells us that Quaran also used to be compiled for the prophet Muhammad (pbuh),meaning that he had personal copy . Malik said that no one should carry the Mushaf by its strap ,not on a pillow ,unless he is clean ...(Mu’atta,Kitab Al -Nida’Li’L-Salam) So it’s cleared from these hadiths that the Quaran was available in a book form at the time of the prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) so ur stupid arguments are still dispelled.this is what will happen to people who trying to attempt to berate Islam through anti Islamic websites .feel pity on u . Narrated Qatadah:I asked Anas Ibnu Malik : who collected the Quaran at the time of the prophet ?He replied Four ,all of whom were from Ansar :Ubay Ibn Ka’ab,Mu’adh Ibn Jabal,Zayd Ibn Thabit and Abu zayd .(Bukhari ,Kitab Fada ‘ilu’l-Quaran) It is very clear it was available in a book form at the time of the prophet with those undeniable evidence. The Oral transmission of the Quaran Even until today ,many people around the world completely memorized the Quaran by heart .these people are known as Hafizun, which mean protectors of the Quaran .The real protector is Allah ,lord of all being , why they’re called protectors ,even the book format is lost ,we can easily restore yet by them .because they have memorized it by heart . Prophet had thousands of companion who completely memorized the Quaran. The first man to speak the Quaran loudly after the prophet Abdullah bin Masud .and its pass down to others . Abubakr recited the Publicity in front of his house (Sira Ibn Hisham) Coming back to ur stupidity,Abu Baker was very close friend of prophet.he was also successor not in prophethood ,he became the commander of Muslims .During his time a battle took place know to be battle of Yamamah .in this battle many people had memorized the Quaran were martyred.so he feared that the Quaran might not be lost ,so he ordered Zayd Ibn Thabit ,the personal scribe of the prophet to compile it .Zayd finished it successfully. It must be noted even if many companions who had memorized it were martyred,the complete Quaran in writing already existed . Following Hadith mentioned the collection of the Quaran under the caliphate of Abu Bakr Bukhari ,VI ,No .201 please check it out it’s a long one The reason why he ordered because he feared the Quaran could have been lost .thats why he ordered for a copy to be prepared . The collection under the Khalifah Uthman After Abubakr ,Kalifha Umar ruled,then Uthman was elected as a Kalifah .During this period Islam has spread to many areas .The Muslims were not Arabs ,couldn’t read the Quaran as it should have been read .they changed the meanings of the verses,and many variant readings sprung out .because the people were ignorant of Arabic .Old Arabic was written as lines ,now one can distinguish such and such alphabet easily By marks .but this was not the case those times .Thats why Caliphate Uthman immediately told a committee of scribes to write the Quaran in the dialect of the Queresh (original Arabic revelation at the time of the prophet) because that how it was revealed.When the scribes has prepared many copies from one which Abu Bakr had compiled ,each Copy was sent to each city under Muslims rule .Other copies Which Uthman were BURNED .Then from the standard copies ,more copies were made and this time there were also teachers of the people to teach them how to recite it with the original pure Qureshi pronunciation. Evidence :Bukhari VI,No.510 Reason for the burning Stupid people like u and Christian missionaries have been openly making allegations that Uthman ordered all copies of the Quaran to be burnt because of the varying content .this is not true Now suppose that there were at any time any variations in the Quaran other than those caused by scribal errors or failure of memory or due to some minor differences in script .that is ,suppose that some individuals or groups deliberately held onto a text of the Quaran that they knew was different from the one followed by others and that was country to country we find the same text of the Quaran?it is said that Uthman the third leader succeeding the prophet,ordered people to burn all the text of the Quaran which was different from certain text .but is it conceivable that people will submit to this order even if they thought Uthman’s text was not authentic text ? You guys have natural tendency to think that Muslims rulers must have always been tyrant dictators who could force the people to do anything.this is certainly not true of early leaders of Muslims ..he ordered to remain Qureshi dialect of it which we have in our hand which is the purest form of it that revealed at the time of the prophet. Go and read (Dr .Ahmad Shafaat,2000,”Journal of the Muslim research institute “Canada ) Some of the missionaries without proof proclaiming people didn’t like the act of burning .this is wrong proven by following: Zaid is reported to have “I saw companions of Muhammad saying By Allah Uthman has done well “(Nisaburi) Ibn Abi Dawud records Musab ibn Abi Waqas to have testified “ I saw the people assembled in a large number at Uthmans burning of the proscribed copies :not a one spoke against him “Ali commented “ if I were in a command in a place of Uthman I would have done the same (Zarkashi) As per above references.all companions agreed the act of burning of the copies other than the standard one .because they memorized it with the pure form from the prophet and they know how it should be pronounced. So ur imbecile claim is dispelled . Apart from this there is a mathematical coding of the Quaran which itself a miracle .experts say this could not have been come from a man due to the mathematical miracle it contains . Evidence ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WwHUcth-zzU.html And the oldest Quaran found in Birmingham ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jowQond7_UE.html So people like u will never ever Learn instead of criticizing just by searching anti Islamic websites 😂😂😂😂

JazakAllah Khiran!

Only Allah will reward you and Paul Williams for clearing some of my inner thoughts regarding this issue!

Thank you very much for your spectacular input. I think this side of the history of preservation of the Quran is mostly ignored by the western scholars. I would love to know about seven qirrat in details. Would you please suggest me relevant resources?

@Avner Konnig It is not Allah, it is the British Empire, in Balfour declaration. What Allah has promised them is in effect, check 3:112

@@shamimahsan2525 I was unable to find decent online resources in English, there are several articles in English and online lectures, however it was not as I accept them to be, since most of them by non Arabs, Just to make it simple, Qirat, Ahruf, refer to a single issue, dialects. Arabic tribe dialects that involves different word (happened 3 times in the Quran) or different pronunciation to the same word (pronunciation in here means vowels), however rarely it would result in a change of meaning, usually it is a very, very close meaning. To give you an example, the word Malik and Malek discussed in this video, in Arabic they come from the same root, for Arabic speakers it does not reflect a huge change in meaning as it would when translated to English (king vs Owner), notice that King and owner in Arabic is (Mlek, Malek). Let me know if I can be in more help to you.

Glad it was helpful!

He is a Muslim.

Glad you enjoyed it

And its always a pleasure to watch your sincere and respectful debates

@@Hamza00011 Thank you.

@@EngagingWithIslam You are one of the cunts who promote the view that quran have many variation which contradict each other.I guess you have learned some real knowledge from the interview, lol.

LIES TO CHILDREN---- MUSLIMS ARE CHILDREN BEING LIED TO

Glad you liked it

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@@BloggingTheology please brother paul can you invite Al Mudarabah youtube, Chanel, he has good knowledge on these topics jazakAllahhukhair .

what happened to you brother?

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@@matthewpaulson6497 do u have any academic knowledge to make such a preposterous statement.Dr Hythem is a professional and gone through all the aspects before he made the claim .first bring anyone from ur side to claim that the Bible is preserved 100 %😂😂😂

@@matthewpaulson6497 altogether we have 100% of the Quran within the first 100 years. In comparison there is only a manuscript of the size of a credit card within the first 120/170 years of Xtianity :-)

@@matthewpaulson6497 We can make the whole qur'an like today just from manuscripts dating back to the Prophet peace be upon him.

Alhamdulillahi Rabal Alameen 💚💚💚

Glad it was helpful!

He looks like gigachad

@@albatross7 yeah his cheekbones are very strong

Please do more research. There is alternate evidence that the Quran is NOT preserved. Further they have non Arabic words in the Quran opens up new questions

@@nasserhameed3828 are you a murtad ?

@@nasserhameed3828 who cares if there's alternataes "evidence" we care about what's right, there could be 100 dogs barking but we will only hear the lion

@@iamannocent2913 how do you know what's right. Did you question the claim What research did you carry out.?

@@nasserhameed3828 The Quran puts a challenge that has been going on for centuries. Find one single clear contradictory statement in The Quran and you have proven The Quran to be not preserved. Fortunately, up until today no one has found it. All of the claims made by the islamophobes are always taking verses out of context. There is no non arabic word in The Quran. However, there are non arabic names, for example Ibrahim.

Good night!

Good morning, mate! Did you watch the entire video?

@@rafayshakeel4812 I did indeed!

@@matthewpaulson6497 No one claimed memorization was “THE” criteria to determine which books are holy. Also No one claimed that the Quran should only be transmitted orally. The only person who made those claims was you. Obviously the content of a particular book is one criteria of determining the claim of the book being holy, and if enough people believe in that book as holy, then this book is holy for those people. It is also obvious to everyone why it was a common sense decision for the Committee that was commissioned by Othman to write down the Quran. Those are obvious common sense issues Apparently you are only correct in saying that silly people say silly things as exemplified by your own comments

@@matthewpaulson6497 Why didnt the Torah get memorised? Maybe you should put that question to the Jews. The commitment to memory of the text goes to show how seriously the early muslims took revelation to be. It was decided to commit the Quran to a text form when many ‘Hafidhs’ (those who memorised the Quran completely) died in the battles against the Byzantine and Persian empires. Yet although the text is in written form, even to this day there are several million muslims that have committed the text to memory. Such that if you destroyed every copy of the Quran you could compile it again with complete accuracy within an hour (say using 30 memorisers each dictating a 1/30 part each). The memorisation of the text has been continuous and uninterrupted from the time it was revealed. The written format is for the wider public who may or may not have memorised the text either partially or in its entirety. No other religion on the planet has taken their scriptural text and its preservation as seriously as the muslims have done. Indeed if you really believe you are given the word of God why would you not hold it in the importance it deserves?

@@matthewpaulson6497 the Torah wasn't memorised and was also subjected to change (original text) by the Jew's.....thus it wasn't preserved in its original form.....neither by memory or original text......according to a sound hadith......the community of Moses (pbuh) (the bani Israel who later began to call themselves Jew's) we're responsible for preservation of the revelation and failed.....both the Torah and the injeel (Bible) don't exist in their original form......I.e.....they've been changed (word omitting/word addition).....

السلام عليكم ورحمه الله Yes this cannot be overstated. This is the point that the orientalist/westerner misses.

Real talk......100%

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But some of the comments are not very polite or respectful. However I'm happy you feel so encouraged. I watch Blogging Theology to learn about Islam. Peace of God to you....

Yes I learn not only from Paul but from the comment section. May God reward this Gentleman!

@@johnbrzykcy3076 Good for you brother. Manner is #1 in any person.

Glad you enjoyed it!

None of the Qira'at variants introduces any material change to the intended meaning. The Birmingham Manuscript & the History of Writing the Early Mushaf (Quran) Episode 1 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vlko8BmXYjA.html

Yeah, love all his quests so far!

Yes... I agree this was a very "concise video of Quranic manuscripts" and I'm a Christian believer.

Hum then you will love this series about quran preservation ru-vid.com/group/PL2dRQaGGWZOCmQU0I0kWYb-_LNxqD0qnE

You notice the admin did not put like in your comments but liked comments that cheer leading his play interview . Beware of these western man when they try to be experts in Arabic with out having traditional Quranic experts to dispute their findings . And allow Beware of Paul he is just a infiltrate .

I think he gave one example, but others would be for example ʿibādu / ʿinda (slaves / with) in 43:19 or fa-tabayyanu / fa-tathabbatu (investigate/ascertain) in Q4.94. This is due to differences in consonantal dotting giving different root words, but they fit the same undotted rasm (a requirement for canonical readings).

Yes it is of great benefit to all students of the Qur'an!

Glad you enjoyed it Sherif.

Glad it was helpful!

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You can learn more about quran preservation here ru-vid.com/group/PL2dRQaGGWZOCmQU0I0kWYb-_LNxqD0qnE

None of the Qira'at variants introduces any material change to the intended meaning. The Birmingham Manuscript & the History of Writing the Early Mushaf (Quran) Episode 1 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vlko8BmXYjA.html

I'm a Christian believer but I also appreciate this. Peace

You can learn more about the preservation of the quran here ru-vid.com/group/PL2dRQaGGWZOCmQU0I0kWYb-_LNxqD0qnE

Then it came back at around 30mins

looks like you didnt keep watching after 19 min 🤣🤣🤣 the differences are the qiraat (recitations) that all go back to the prophet, AKA thats what the Quran is.

You can check his other interview with Prof. John brown. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KOsc-uI9Lro.html

I agree we need to listen to this scholar. But as a Christian believer, I already believe Jesus (PBUH and praise) reveals the "truth." Peace of God to you....

@@johnbrzykcy3076 *Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him; in the next world he shall be among the losers.* Quran 3: 85

i bet they dont even know what the word 'TRUTH' actually means.. -Cause they loved lies and have been lied to since day 1..#sadreality# but its okay..cant expect big from christian people that follows an impostor like 'paul the dreamer'..a man that never once met jesus..lol..#funny x-tians#

@@thinkislamcheckmychannel Thanks. Actually I don't desire "another religion than Islam." I don't even like the word "religion." But I understand what you are saying and that verse from the Quran is a warning to people of other religions. I don't believe Jesus ( PBUH) came to establish any new religion, although Christianity did indeed become a powerful and influential religion. I feel no attraction to "desire" Islam but I do want to submit to the One God that Jesus preached. Peace of God to you and yours.....

@@justarshad8354 To be honest, I struggle myself to "know what the word 'TRUTH" actually means." I do believe that Jesus (PBUH) understood truth Himself because He embodied truth in His prayers, teaching and His life. Anyhow... I'm no scholar but keep learning ( slowly )!

@Menachem ali salam/peace. There is nothing harmful if a goat ate a piece of Quran page. Because from the beginning of the revelation it is/was memorised by many people. Losing only a piece of an already memorized page (by many people) is nothing big.

@Menachem ali you can't understand it because of your hatred. There are no missing verses. There are copying errors, reading differences (local and dialectal differences) simply because of the nature of the language. Think about the different dialects of english and "regional" spelling differences. The book and written form may have some typos and etc. Back then they didn't have ctrl+f, they didn't have computers... It does not harm the protection of the Quran because for 1500 years it is "MEMORISED" completely. How can't you understand this ? How old are you ? It is simple as that. It is memorised and recited 5 times a day, ubiquitously. The message is preserved whether you are willing to accept it or not. You are rejecting the scientific evidence but you are not aware of it.

There is more here ru-vid.com/group/PL2dRQaGGWZOCmQU0I0kWYb-_LNxqD0qnE

@@doghun4416 And plus akhi we have absolutely no reason to accept the goat eating incident. There are 4 people that have narrated this particular event. 3 of the isnaads say about the abrogation of the verse of stoning. Only one on them being ibn ishaq in it (which we know he is a weak narrator in this case) mentions that a goat ate it. 3 authentic doesn't mention it but the fourth with a weak chain mentions goat eating. Just like we know Ibn Ishaq is a historian and takes everything he hears. He says many times in his narrations ''I heard from someone'' without saying the actual name.

Yes!

وش الاميزنق فيه وابو مصير جالس يجيب مصادر الاتراك وتارك العرب وش قالوا!! الاتراك عثوا فالعباد والبلاد وحرقوا الكتب والقرى، مصادرهم ماناخذ منها

لا تعليق مادمت مناطقي وألفاظك مخيسة .. أبو مصير قال

@@user-kd1uh1kr4b مالت عليك منبطح واحد، حسبت فيك نخوة اثرك بالقاع!!

@@SAJANOVA ههههه تريد تدرس عن القران من مصادر فرنسية؟؟ هو القران نزل بالجزيرة العربية بديهيا يجب أن ندرس اقدم المصادر وهي تلك التي جاءت من هذه المنطقة. يا اخي اصحى على حالك انت في سبات عميق معرفة الحق لاتحتاج الى الحقد والكراهية. حكم عقلك

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Why do you say that "this feat would have been impossible for new testament scribes..."?

@@johnbrzykcy3076 First of all, when Mark was already written down, the authors of Mathew and Luke had access to some earlier scripts such as L, M, and Q, as well as Mark and they, picked and merged some of the info to form their own gospel. Now the scribes that copied, for instance, Mathew, made some mistakes, and then scribes that copied from the previous scribes probably made the same mistakes and added their own mistakes (You shouldn't underestimate the number of mistakes that could possibly be made when writing ancient greek letters side by side. I will not be dealing with forced anti-adoptionist changes such as Luke 3:22 or 9:35 for the sake of time). The earlier copies were either thrown away or confiscated by Roman authorities and so there is basically nothing to measure the tenacity of the later copies. Now since the bible does not have an oral transmission (unlike the Quran), not having the earlier copies implies losing the originals. When writing his book "the orthodox corruption of scripture", Bart still believed that the originals were at hand. Now, most new testament critics, including Bart, are not convinced that the originals can even possibly be construced. This is partly because of the problem of the hereditary nature of the bible as well as the little number of manuscripts present in the first 100 years. (For instance, P52 was dated to about c.110 earlier but now it pushed to about c.180. P90 and P104 are both second-century manuscripts). So yeah, it is a completely different beast we are dealing with when we look at the new testament.

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BarakAllahou fik, brother

You tell stories to yourself ....

May Allah reward you for sharing the description.

This particular explanation of the 7 ahruf is among the weaker ones - the various hadith that deals with Umar and Ubayy in separate instances of noticing people reciting the Qur'an differently, and being told by Muhammad that all recitations are correct, involved people all from the same tribe. Differences in dialect do can't explain this away. Also, there are no known complete (or near complete) manuscripts from the time of Uthman in existence. At best, there are a few folios of heavily disputed dating which are nothing to do with the copies you mention. In any case, however much others many have commended him from it - neither Uthman had any divine instruction to burn allegedly divinely delivered materials, nor did any of the people applauding him. Allah delivered the Qur'an in 7 ahruf and Uthman corrupted that which was delivered - there is no getting away from this if you believe in the Islamic narrative.

Very good research on your part. JazakAllah Khiran for your thorough comment. I took a snap your comment for future reference.

None of the Qira'at variants introduces any material change to the intended meaning. The Birmingham Manuscript & the History of Writing the Early Mushaf (Quran) Episode 1 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vlko8BmXYjA.html

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J Smith knows more about Islam than everyone here put together!! U cannot give a detailed genuine study of a subject if u cannot accept that any of it could be wrong!!! Scholar's who can only go so far but can't cross the red line are as good as useless!! I presume Paul is either a Muslim or a western scholar who has realised that pleading Muslim makes big bucks!! Selling out humanity to the devil..

@@virgotruthseeker3003 do you know how many times Jay failed his PhD?

@@arefinkamal7654 haha probably for telling the truth!!! Every single Islamic scholar seems to b professional liars so wouldn't surprise me at all!!!!!

@@virgotruthseeker3003 or Smith is just incompetent.

None of the Qira'at variants introduces any material change to the intended meaning. The Birmingham Manuscript & the History of Writing the Early Mushaf (Quran) Episode 1 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vlko8BmXYjA.html

That is why I believe that the Quran is a miracle.