What would you want in an ASOIAF 2.0? 

My main wish for 2.0 is a more granulated point system. I feel they are making it harder for themselves to balance stuff within the 40 point system. At the moment most faction have a best in each point categorie and the other units rarely see play. If you double or 2.5x it will give room for more variation and it will be easier to adapt where necessary. Seperating renly and Stannis side more is another I would like to see, different decks for a start. Let stannis be the control and retaliation faction and give Renly proactive knights that can storm into battle.

I am looking to put my thoughts together in a future article on Frontline Gaming. However a big one for me is a narrative themed game mode. A campagin hexcrawl league ish thing would be awesome and super enjoyable.

I’d like to see some houses get a few more units and their own deck. Factions like Boltons and Tyrells. Also, I’d like to see some restrictions on Neutrals, kinda like how Legion does it. So Boltons could only be taken by Starks and Lannisters. When the game first came out, and when new factions only had a starter box… neutral options were essential. But now there are so many units and new factions come with a hero box and a few units… I don’t see the need for such an open neutral system

I would love to see a starter set with night walkers, night king and some undead

A buff to the crowns tactics zone 😂

I would love a "fire and blood" expansion with a royal house targaryen faction and huge dragons so much

1.- better balance, both internal within the faction and external removing outbalanced stuff. 2.- better written rules, without need to go to faqs, forums, discords, community discussion. 3.- quicker meta renovations with subtle patches to shift things up. 4.- New game modes making a larger pool of them. 5.- better relationship with the community.

A proper seige scenario with an actual castle wall and gate to assault. Defender wall with enough spaces to place a standard unit of twelve. Assault ladders where miniatures can be removed from the movement tray and placed on ladder rungs similar to how Heroscape utilized them. A completely new and exciting option that fits the Westeros theme and story arc.

Love your points! Would love to see campaign booklets with narrative scenarios just like the journey books for Middle-Earth SBG for example. How awesome would it be to play through the adventures of certain characters and factions!

Points. Change 40pts games to 75pts but it is still the same amount of units. just increase everything across the board so that there is more room to balance abilties with points cost. Right now anything 2pts or higher will always be forgotten unless it has relentless

Are there talks of a 2.0 update or is this just a wish list if we were to get one

I have three main complaints that can't be addressed without making 2.0 release and i hope that we would get them at some point. 1. Make the game 400 points instead of 40. Additional points of granularity would allow us to have a more precise balance of units and attachments. Attachments are specifically a target of this update as right now we don't use most of them as they are overpriced for their abilities. This update will effectively allow us to have 0.5 and 1.5 attachments. Attachments are cool and i want to see them in the game more often. 2. Hire community and marketing managers CMON. FFS. This game deserves better communication with devs and on upcoming releases. Let us know what is in the works. Engage us. I shouldn't be scavenging Facebook or Reddit for some vague hints to know what will be released in the next couple of months. 3. Rule cleanup. What is considered "targeting a unit"? If my order makes my attack apply token does it make the target of attack a target of order? When does NCU claim a zone? Most of the rules for this game are pretty straightforward, but there are some real headscratcher situations. Properly updated rules and FAQ should clear these up.

I am not sure if I want to see more tokens. The reason I have stayed away from games like Star Wars legion is that there are too many tokens.

A TRUE multiplayer/cross faction team up builds…

Things I’d like to see in ASOIAF: • Point cost advantage for ‘themed lists’. Eg An all Stark army units would be 1pt cheaper if the Commander is a Stark, but minor house allies (Karlstarks, Umber, etc) would be normally pointed. • Faction keyword that means that hero’s abilities only work on their own faction. Eg Mormont heroes or attachment abilities only works on Mormont units. • Campaign system that included the ability to have asymmetric battles • The ability to subvert or convert minor factions, eg Karlstarks get bribed to desert Starks by spending VPs before the battle • Minor factions heroes ‘unlock’ those units. Minor faction units are otherwise unavailable. • Siege battles. All factions would need siege engines • Larger ‘Epic’ Battle sizes, up to 100 pts? • Rules for (including pre-determined army lists) for ‘historic battles’. Robert and Ned’s rebellion at the trident? Battle of the Bastards? • Variable unit sizes. Eg Small - 2 Cavalry or 6 Infantry, Medium- 4 Cavalry or 12 infantry or large - 6 Cavalry or 18 Infantry. Maybe even ‘Hordes’ - 8 Cavalry or 24 Infantry in a unit for larger ‘epic’ battles or for horde armies like Dothraki riders or White Walkers. • White Walkers, Brothers without banners, The Vale (and other areas) added as factions.

The game rewards players who have 8+ activations (Free Folk) and punishes those who do not. Certain base faction decks have aged like milk (Targaryens and Starks) and need a revamp. Some units have become way too reliant and pretty much are required for every army (flayed men and Petyr). I would also and personally like to see Warhammer 40K apocalypse style game mode for those who have larger collections would be fun to see more units but that's just a pipe dream honestly.

I'd like to see a campaign version that accompanys a map that enables the smaller skirmish battles we have now but add in larger scale battles and a seige mode with an attacker and defender.

1 Keep the game as thematic as possible: - all unique abilities should stay only on NAMED CHARACTERS attachements or commanders (ex: boisterous charisma) - make all Named Characters (ncu/C/attachements) as close to their book character (ex: 1.6 Cersei/Walder/Joffrey feld more close to their lore characteristics then after 2021) 2. go from 40p list build to 100p by doublleing up the units/ncus point cost - but not for the normal attachements (ex: 1 Santinel Enforcer should stay on 1p for Tount - ability, but CotF/assault veteran will go to 2p for War Cry/ intimidating presence) Like that you can auto-ballance the point cost for units/ncus/attachements that feal like 6.5p/unit insted of 6 when you doubble up. you will find 11p units as you can find 12p or 13p for unit that today cost 6p That it will be so cool to see 😁 love the game, but is so hard to compeat against OP stuff… so, if possible, no more MoD/Starks 1.6/2021 Othell/Varamyr/2021.01 FF - kind of problems pls

More scenery. More realistic scenery set up. Buildings (raid on moa's Town, streets of flea bottom ect) . More scenarios.

Now this is epic

A blackfyre rebellion is what i would want for 2.0

Wholeheartedly agree! I hope we hear more from CMON on the future.

Yeah campaign mode is obvious. That would add a huge depth to the game. I would also love to see some unnamed commanders. One thing i loved in Warhammer Battle was the possibility to create your own general and heroes way more than playing special characters. It really gives you the feeling that this is YOUR army and that you are writing its story all along the games you are going through. The game is supposed to be fanfiction friendly and there a lot of lesser houses in most faction or other way to dig in the lore in order for the player to propose at least his own army leader. That would also go pretty well with a campaign mode. I would also love for the Stark to have at least one elite unite that is not tied to a lesser house. All basic units are 100% Stark, but every stronger units belong either to a lesser house ( Umber, Mormont, Kastark, etc .. ) or an ally like the tullys. The Starks are supposed to be a major house. Let them have one or two units that show that "yes, the starks can be dangerous on their own".

I'd love to see a complete rework to the panic system! Great video Chase

I feel like each unit should be able to act independently, as well as the NCU's having more to do. As well as incorporating cities, travel, alliances, gold, resources and trading.

Clean up timing and wording. Better community engagement, communication of release dates, and so on. Oh yeah, and make mammoths good again.

Would love to see a 2.0, and all 5 of your suggestions are welcome. I’d like to see a full rework of the terrain system. I’m not sure what I want to see, but a second edition would be a great way to make terrain more interactive and meaningful.

Ranged attacks getting more varied than just 6” and 12”. With the introduction of Frozen Shore Hunters we are seeing just how limiting this 2 range system is by forcing various missile weapons into only 2 range categories. Open the game up by exploring longer ranges like 18” for longbows and 24” for war machines. I’d also like to see a new terrain pack that includes different biomes and new sizes for forests. Even a shake up of scenarios like Here We Stand would be exciting for the game.

Compatibility with everything already released... and an Imperial Assault type special mission mode

While I don't believe a 2.0 is necessary at this time, I'm not opposed to exlporing untapped design spaces. Doran Ncu gave martells an alt win con via the tactics board to score vps. What if Greyjoys had to option to turn in pillage tokens for vps as an alt win con? I also have enjoyed the new tactics board spaces when they have been introduced in the past and feel theres room to expand the design there. I'm also curious about more variation to the wounds units have. We already have a little variation with bear riders, and solos that break the mold of 12 wounds per unit, but it would be neat if we could overstrengthen units. imagine pike units going from 3 ranks to 4 ranks deep. or overstrengthened lannister guards unit getting 5 models per rank, 3 ranks, 15 wounds total etc. Now that is something that could be neat to see, on the table.

I want to see something that makes Armies with only 5 or 6 activations viable to play. Like allow them to reactivate units that have been activated but instead of a full maneuver they only shift and if attacking they use their lowest attack profile and cannot use tactics card and orders…. Oh and please nerf Mance Ryder!

A non-rank and file variant, so I could use tons of miniatures.

as many said before, firstly a points system overhaul. Scale everything up x10 so finetuning of points is possible. With that unit attachments can also be revisited. The activations war is still way too important in my opinion so you are better off never taking any attachments (a shame to miss out on all that flavour and hustle that went into the design)

Dance of Dragons spinoff! Trial of Seven minigame spinoff! Robert's Rebellion era heroes boxes!

Given how they can change everything around now without a full 2.0, I'd assume it would bring in some sizable changes. So one also has to assume, they want some sizable changes if they do that. I'd expand the points system to out by x10, so a regular sized battle now would be 400 points, and the designers have a little more granularity in what things cost. Then I would expand the sides of the standard battlefield out so it's 6' wide and increase the standard army sizes to at least 500 points. You could expand the tactics board to six spots too, the spaces don't need to get more powerful, it doesn't have to be as prominent in the game. They created a nice, tight battle game, but I think if they wanted to change it to have more appeal to wargamers at large it needs to be a little less tight, the armies themselves have to be more important and the battlefield needs to come across more like a battlefield than the center of a boxing ring where you just smash into each other. Though that might be too much change for the people who already like it.

Hot take, but I think they should revisit the alternative list construction rules. It was poorly received, but I get the sense people are more willing to shake things up now than they were when that idea got floated. The timing wasn’t right then (CMON stuff), but given that people are asking for a Neutral allowance reduction, activation pass tokens, and more attachment play, there may be more tolerance now for stricter list parameters.

Tokens? Careful what you wish for, lest they go full-frontal Fantasy Flight on you.

Restore GJ to pre S2. Make neutrals an actual faction that can compete. For example- when in a full neutral list, FM is 7/6/4. Have an actual tournament handbook/guide. Offer incentives for stores to run leagues (a la Friday Night magic). And finally- everytime BL says “FFOP!” He gets hit with an (empty) ranger hunters box.

i hope the get ride of Expert Duelist. Its the worst!! its just feel bad...

i want the undead army

40 point army? Lol...hubby and I play 120 point armies on a 6x4 mat.

I would like a rework to the points attachments are costed. Pretty much only 1 point attachments are playable other then 3 point Relentless. I’d like all 2 point attachments reduced by a half point. Also any unpopular units could be reduced by a half point until they are worth playing. 🤷🏾‍♂️

If there was a campaign let the miniatures be off the board and use them similar to Star Wars legion

I'm surprised that CMON has a paucity of printed materials re this game.

Easier to use more attachments.

If a better pointsystem (like 100p) isnt in v2.0, i want more effort put into slowly buffing or nerfing units and balance them.

Bigger games. Bigger games. Bigger games.

Let's hear it! What would you like to see in an ASOIAF 2.0?

Don't agree with almost any if these changes. Don't want to be forced to buy more models to play or buy multiples of units. Maybe a slight increase in model count, but not much. And personally have no interest in a multiplayer format. That being said, one of my biggest desires is that I wish they would change the tray sizes. The trays are too big and clumsy, it makes maneuvering feel awkward and the fact there is only a single size any given unit can be makes the movement part too dumbed down. They should decrease the empty space on the trays between individual models to shrink them down and make units more maneuverable. This would, in turn, also make playing games with additional units more interesting, because as it stands, with 4-5 units on each side, the trays are so large there's not much room left on 4x4 for interesting tactical movement to matter. Beyond just changing the dimensions of the movement trays, units should be able to be fielded in varying sizes with varying configurations of trays. At minimum, infantry should be able to be fielded in 8/12/16, or 6/12/18 man configurations and Cavalry as 3/4/6. Much more than a large battle ruleset with an alternate tactics board, I would love a skirmish, model to model ruleset with more free form movement and a few customization options for heroes and warriors. That's also the best place for a campaign style ruleset. Mordheim-esque with warriors participating in tourneys, helping or hindering local villages, hiring services as sellswords, or protecting baggage trains as part of a larger conflcit.

Skirmish rules, FFS. Want to see real terrain in the table. I am not interested in a game designed for competitive matches at tournaments.