Never heard of ya Tee-Jay, glancing at your videos though, I am very glad Ron did a shout out. You appear to have a lot of promising videos. Keep it up!
Thanks Ron, I just saw a new and complete set on discount and this is how I came to this review. very helpful review and teardown. These are the wonders of RU-vid and people like you. Thanks again.
Thank you so much for taking me inside the cabinet. I'm seriously craving a speaker purchase for my first floor-standers. The Debut series always had my attention but now I think it will have my wallet.
Hey Ron Great advice about not taking your speakers apart! Love these teardown videos. Nice looking speaker components for speakers at their price point. Love those cast baskets on the drivers. Nice sized magnets, like the vented pole piece. Like that crossover. I think magnetic grills rock. Great looking cabinet finish. I LOVE to see that internal bracing. Nice looking cabinet construction. Thanks for another great video Ron.
Very nice, thank you! It saves me a tear- down of my Debut reference speakers! Tip: leave the tweeter grills off; these speakers sound even better without them.
Fantastic, Ron, thank you! Kind of thinking those spikes wouldn't be long enough to go through my carpet and carpet pad all the way to the concrete in my basement, which would suck, but I can't tell exactly how long they can get fully extended out. Can't wait to see the review!
Great video Ron! Love your excitement about this speaker. I think we all are given the dbr 62 has been so well reviewed.would like to know if plugging the back lower section port does anything to the overall balance.
Some people are so pessimistic. What reason they have to give a thumbs down is absurd. keep it up Ron. By the way, I know you love dissapearing tweeters. Please review some Dynaudio, they have that exact trait that you like.
it might be worth spending slightly more and getting a better sorted speaker, they compete in a Very crowded price segment. Focals new Chora also just out.
The top holes under the baskets are vents. They allow better airflow to cool the outer windings of the coil rather than with just a conventional pole vent, like these also have, to improve thermal power handling. Impressive to see on a hifi driver, that venting technique is more common on bigger high power PA drivers!
If it’s like adding acoustic treatment to a very tiny tiny room then no - fluffy stuff only affects the higher frequencies. It not likely the stuff on there does much at all.
Ron, love what you do. Your enthusiasm is easy to catch. I wonder where you got your accent? You seem to forget your mid-word Ts. Instead of button, you say bu-on. Kills me. 😁
What's the purpose of tearing apart a speaker, when you can't convert what you see to knowledge? The purpose of the vents between the spider and the magnet is to limit compressing by letting the air flow more easerly.
looking to buy these speakers for stereo 2 channel listening - excited to see your review and THEN i will decide!!! looking for warm neutral sounding speakers.
Hi Ron, nice video. Can you tell me the value of the electrolytic cap that's not 220uF on that crossover board? Planning to get a pair of them and upgrading them caps right off the bat.
So, Ron, I followed your advice and did NOT take apart *my* speakers ... but my best friend is pretty pissed at me. ;) Totally joking thanks for your work you have inspired me to want more out of my rigs and carefully consider some of my future purchases. Keep Safe.
Great video as always Ron! Keep up the great work. I just ordered dbr62's. Was thinking about ordering these as well. On a side note, do you think adding no-rez would improve sound quality over the polyfill?
@@itstinksgood9033doud these are not that sophisticated and also there’s just no way poly fill does much if anything. If I’m wrong explain what it is doing!
Did you try it? What is no-rez made out of exactly? Seems fluffy stuff is a scam mostly so would be interesting to test if it does much, especially not to lower frequencies.
Basically, the same as Kevlar, but Kevlar is a proprietary name. The have their own version. I'm sure the properties are not identical, but very similar.
I think the bookshelf woofer is larger. These look like 5 and quarter inchs. I expected the mid range and low to be more different but it seems they are the same. Not sure how that could be optimal. Well see!
@@jondonnelly4831 Not sure how it could be optimal? Supposing that they are the same design (all 3 cone drivers). Just spit-ballin' here; If starting with a well executed two-way design, two more of the same drivers could be employed simply as an augmented two-way, or a transitional multi-way, ... whereby the drivers sum their outputs across the lowest octaves, yet each driver (bottom to top) is low passed at a different frequency, to roll off the upper most coverage freq based on distance from the primary driver, and path length difference from the floor (integration/summation issues). There would be benefits to be had either way... ie., custom for their application, or all 3 essentially identical. For any given crossover freq, the supplemental drivers added to the highpass'd (or not) primary driver, the summed output yields an extended LF response. The supplemental woofers both extend the frequency range and reduce the displacement load on the primary driver. Thus lower intermod thru the critical midband, and greater LF displacement capability.
Hey Ron after watching your video I went and took my speakers apart. I put them back together but there's no sound coming out. I did exactly like you done showed me. What did I do wrong? Why didn't you warn me? Hey how are you supposed to jam those tube connectors in there anyway?
I can't wait for someone to send you a set of Paradigm bookshelf Premier and towers. =D !! .. If you are impressed with subtle engineering designs and performance. =) ..
These or the Focal Chora. Not gonna lie these seem like they are cheaper than they are, but its all about the sound. Fyne audio 501s ain't much more in the U.K. Can't wait to see your review.
10p resistors, I don't understand how mid and bass are not specialised but the same unlesss... They are the same and the tweeter is playing down into the mids and speaker is actually just a 2 way pretending to be a 3.
I really want to give them a try. But two factors. They take a ton of power to get them going and sound great. Plus they don't have enough low end for my taste. So you will have to add some powered subs. My setup doesn't have the room for separate subs. So I need a pair of towers that can go low. Around the same price point. Was looking at something by KLH.
Hey Ron regarding the vents; not only are they to dissipate heat energy, acoustic energy is of significant concern too. Manufacturers at the highest end of high end drivers (Seas, Scan-Speak, Accuton), are implementing the most drastic of steps to address these challenges. Smaller Neodymium motors allow for a wide open path for energy to be dealt with in ways that couldn't happen before. Scan Speak opens up the thermal and acoustic pathway nicely with advances in their high performance midrange; www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-4-midrange/scanspeak-illuminator-12mu/8731t-00-4-midrange/ The ultimate cost-no-object approach is what Accuton is doing with their open back, ring magnet, 7" ceramic midrange; www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/woofers/accuton-c168-6-990-7-ceramic-cone-mid/bass/ When you have the Accuton in your hands the engineering ingenuity really is special.
@@Newrecordday2013 It could just be your lighting, open ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EqJC-CAj-zc.html and pause both of these videos at one second. You can see the whites are darker, for example check the white speaker on the shelf to the left.
That cabinet looks like a love child of a transmission line and a bass-reflex construction. Serious engineering... Except some of mediocre elements of the crossover. You may need some help from GR research for improvement.
Yeah for what these costs and the hype about the designer, its kinda penny pinching. Still people are losing their shit over the bookshelf version, giant killers... can't say i see any evidence of it.
I would replace all wires with Cheap Cat5 solid core cables. Cheap home depot silver 7 percent solder. Tellurium copper speaker connectors. ICAS knowledge will best all the thousands of BS audiophile components, cables, etc.
Mr. Jones will talk to anyone about how he built his speaker any why, on camera! So why aren’t we just talking about how they sound with types of equipment rather that the whole year down thing. I love to listen to music. I’ll go to college if I want a degree! I think your going after a different support group than what you started into this for Ron. Sorry but as I say this is not the fun part of music and equipment. Tons of great stuff out there today, just enjoy it! Something for everyone and you don’t have to tear it apart to be okay with it!
The good news is, I do tear downs and reviews. Win win for everyone. Just don’t watch the tear down videos if you don’t appreciate them. See, that was easy, wasn’t it?!
Really? Warranty aside, loudspeakers don't require an engineering degree to dissemble. If you can use a screwdriver and build IKEA furniture, you can totally take a peek at your speakers guts.
Comparing these to the build quality of the Monitor Audio Silver 200 (A similar size and priced speaker) these are about £300 too expensive. The Silver 200's are better built in every way, inside and outside, and are cheaper than the Elac's, even the outriggers are quality solid metal affairs on the silver 200's. The quality of components in the X-over are also much better on the Monitor Audio's as is the high quality acoustic damping throughout the internals. These Elacs might sound OK but at £1100 UK no thanks, Elac are having a laugh.
Sand cast resistor, cheap! Iron core inductors and Electrolytic caps?.. Even cheaper… awful parts just like 95% of commercial products. Looks great on the outside but the mess is all inside.
A.J. is using 3 air core inductors and 2 poly caps where it counts. Just so you know, it doesn't look great on the outside either but for the cost, it will walk anything in it's price range!