my neighbor in wisconsin who milks said he is getting pretty much the same price for milk as he did 15 to 18 years ago! and he said isnt it funny how all these farm groups like farm bureau and NFO and family farm defenders and milk marketing board and beef board and corn or bean groups there ALL doing good BUT they NEVER fight for better or fair wages for farmers. i just myself dropped farm bureau i just threw my usda farm census away i am doing every thing i can right now selling extra equipment to pay off my debt i am no longer going in to my ag office to report any thing. i will now farm the way my dad and his dad and his dad did. i see NO future in farming with banks or so called groups who SAY they represent farmers and they do on certain things but NOT pay!!!
You ain't feeding America. You've been duped. Now, take all the poison being fed to the USA population like soy and corn syrup in everything, what in hell are you saying? Don't make me pull the statistics out at you. Hahahaha
It’s a sad thing that we are living in an entitled America. People think that they are owed what they want. They want it now instead of saving up to purchase what you want.
I'd say for CNH the axial flows seem to still have really solid parts availability. Just about everything from the 14-23 series interchanges with eachother which helps. We put new choper knives and 3 injector lines in on a 1666 last fall after it blew them in the middle of harvest. Dealer had them boxed up and ready for us by the time we got there.
I also sale hay and the biggest complaint and why I’ve seriously thought of quitting the hay business is the guys that bitch about the price of hay. Its the cost of all inputs are so stupidly high. Loved the rant had to comment!!
Just to think that's MECHANICAL parts too! Little electronic boards or sensors are thousands as well. Following prices from like the 80s to current day, expenses and costs are far HIGHER than what commodity prices move by percentage... a new '79 Ford pickup was under $10,000 when dad bought one new, now a new F150 with just "standard" features (not basic, but not premium) is over $50,000. What about grain prices following suit? Sure, we can make more bushels per acres than we could years ago through technology advancements and crop varieties, but what I'm concerned about is the QUALITY of each kernel for nutrition when trying to push yield yield yield...
As a deere mechanic im gonna tell you this. Deere is the best about not discontinuing parts. Ive worked on anything from x91100s to 8820s. Only found one part discontinued on the 8820 but they made a kit to retrofit it to a 9600/9610 style. On our farm ive had issues ordering parts for our 1 case tractor thats a 08. Its promptly becoming more of a trade off option then our other tractors. Just because we can never get what we need for it.
I dont know what the amswer is. Getting hard to find a niche that sticks. Theres simply not enough money in farming to sustain these bills. I wonder too what the hell i am doing.
Lonely Farmer Hope you well and not too overworked. Can i ask your advice based on your John Deere expertise? Based in Ireland, JD 6910 tractor, 6068 engine, Tractor and engine runs well, rear main crank seal leaking Am getting mixed messages as to whether to just do the seal or whether we are into a full engine rebuild. If engine going fine my thought is seal only? What would you advise? How often is the rear main seal failure caused by crankshaft bearings wearing? Keep going with the oats, doesn’t matter how they look Thank you Mick flynn ireland
My Uncle owns fairly substantial local contracting outfit.. Big tractors, balers, rakes the list goes on.. He lives in a normal house and drives a normal car.. . As a matter of fact, he rears some beef cattle to offset the cost of maintenance on some of the consumables like oil and diesel ... If he was laughing all the way to the bank, Id definately know about it..
I saturate couple small square bales in diesel & throw them in corn head (after pressure washing everything off) & run them through combine, shines everything up & keeps critters out. I also spray inside of grain tank with diesel & run what I can through augers.
I'm a horse person, make my own hay, and some to sell. I totally get the comment, people do not know what it takes to make it. A lot of them think it's like mowing the lawn. I make small squares, so more labor intensive as far as unloading goes. All my equipment is older, luckily parts are still available. But even then prices are up, paid $20 for basically a bent piece of high strength wire for my bale ejector.
Farmers are the only ones that sell wholesale and buy retail. Most often, they get told what they’ll get for their crops. Rarely do they get to set their own price. Buyers look for every excuse to knock the prices down when the product is delivered. As far as tractor, implement and truck parts goes, Deere and other manuctures & dealers know they can make huge profits on proprietary parts. The greed is a big factor in me getting out of the business. God Bless our farmers.
Atleast in Finland where i live. Those farmers that can afford to hold on to its grain over winter and start selling it in the spring makes the most money of its grain compared to a farmer who sell in instantly from the fields. Because the bid is the highest then cus its a shortages.
@@thedeahtkiller3 some do in the states too, but the buyer still tells you what they’ll pay or they just go to the next guy. They take a risk of the price going down too. It kills their cash flow if they’re sitting on it too long. Lots of farmers borrow money for future crop and depend on selling crop to repay loan. It’s a tough business, especially for the dry land farmers that depend on rain.
EVERYTHING is getting crazy high now. Everything. It's somewhat depressing to be honest. Did a harbor freight tool run a couple of days ago and spent close to a grand on 1 overflowing small cart. One of my lawyers just spent 17 grand for a Kubota zero turn mower. I bought a John Deere Z-225 zero turn with a blown engine but lots of other new (and expensive) parts for $300.00. Replacement $1100.00 Briggs and Stratton 19hp engine on its way. Bought a new jd 5075E 2wd with jd loader and cab and air for $29,000.00 2 years ago. SAME tractor is +/- 50 grand for a 2023 model.
@@onelonleyfarmer HVAC coils. Thank you for asking. Was on 33 years when I sold it.Stopped being "fun" in late 2021 and a group called me out of the blue and asked if I was interested in selling and retiring. Caught me on the right bad day....
It totally insane what oil costs are. Hydraulic oil for John Deere is absolutely without a doubt a total rip off. The parts situation it totally my blowing. Having to pay a king ransom for service calls on tractor issues that I cannot do. The whole thing is totally out of control and I don’t see any end to it
Green and yellow paint had it's price looong ago, not that any other color was "cheap". But real inflation can't be printed out by governments. If it makes you feel better, Europe is in the same hole. Just bought a track and sprocket for an excavator and had a mild heart attack. 4.680€. 2 years back it was 2.500€.
Have you looked at Claas combines? I know Agriteer in eastern PA had several nice used ones for sale. I know some people swear by them they seem like good machines. Can't speak to parts availability for them but since Claas isn't bought out by anyone it might be better than CNH or AGCO.
One of the biggest reasons I won’t row crop is I’m not going to be told what they (grain companies) will give me for my crops. I old and only do round bales of hay primarily for horse people and I’m doing ok for a small producer and I do charge for my hay and delivery services. The docking fee paid by farmers is the biggest rip off there is they load this grain in barges and train cars that are not temperature control and than in the gulf area it’s loaded on ships into yet another damp cargo hole. And they gonna charge a docking fee to dry this grain!
I totally agree with you on how expensive everything is. Me and my father-in-law bale hay for few cow that he has and horses that me and my wife Trail ride
Hey Wesley, do you know anything about Oliver 540, 4 row corn planters? Price is right for us, but on fence about spending money, don't need a lawn ornament. Thank you
Ate at Pizza Hut yesterday and a large Pizza with 3 toppings was $28.00……. Then listening to some young Congress woman telling everyone one we need to stop making plastic because it’s no good. And then another congressman asked if she had a cell phone and what did she think it was made of? Then he asked her what kind of shoes she had and on and he kept on and on. He finally said wanting to eliminate plastic is fine, but what is your solution to replace it……. No response. Not against people making more money, but there ARE jobs that just not worth a high salary. So now they make more and what did companies do they increased the price of their products to maintain their profit margins. Couldn’t see that coming right?!?!? So any gains they got are now lost due to higher priced goods.
Wes check the width on the JD 680s. I am pretty sure that a six row header will not cover the tires. We have good local support on red and green. The Green one of a huge chain of stores. Good parts availability but terrible service. The red is a smaller family owned two store chain with supper service. We do the majority of our own service work like you do. We switched to CIH combines 4 years ago and have had great luck with them. We are running 8240s. Bought both of them at farm auctions with under 1000 hours on them. Switched out our JD 9760s. We really like the CIH machines. Much simpler to work on and usually cheaper too. We are running 40 ft. drapers for grain and 12 row folding headers for corn.
Hate to say it but CNH has gone down hill when it comes to replacement parts I’m getting kinda fed up with them, then again some Deere dealers don’t want their parts people looking up “out dated” equipment parts either Good luck with rain we are dry her as well
My comment is all the CEO’s of these big companies keep on raising price so they can get their huge bonuses. They will eventually price out the middle class, that’s when it will get ugly.
I sold my manufacturing company last July ( and semi-retired) and forewarned the new owners about the criticality of rodent control to prevent vermin from munching on the wires for controls of the production machines. Insulation is soy based plastic and mice and rats love it and troubleshooting a chewed wire can run into thousands of dollars not including lost production time. They see me as a dumb ol' Texan and ignored my advice. And result was predictable...... They are going broke btw: too prideful to ask for my guidance and too stupid and inexperienced to see their continuing failures. One is from Chicago and the other is from Los Angeles. All good for me: I received full payment for my golden parachute and under my ownership the company was a cash cow that made me a wealthy man.
Risk with JD combine is the whole 'right to repair' they have fought against any farm-owner-mechanics, something glitches and your machine sits for days waiting on the service truck guy. Automotive business the regulations are to maintain repair parts for ten years, popular models or popular sub-systems get a lot of third party repair parts support.
New holland tr parts are slim to none, bone yards are picked clean for them. I have a tr 87 that needed a new hydraulic pump that runs the feederhouse up/down, i found one but it was the last one in this part of the country. So i upgraded to a nh cr 9040 combine, still have the tr till i get the cr9040 figured out, mostly the touch screen setting you have to remember to do.
I come from a farming background I have family that work for a long time in agriculture so I get where you are coming from it is hard work for very little reward
Lonely your are so right people don’t know what farmers have to do to make ten thousand dollars you’re still getting seventy prices the only thing that’s different are youre yields the old farmers would be flipping and doing summersaults if they could even getting close to the yields you’re getting today i remember if you got a hundred bushels to the acre they we’re happy now your average corn is between two to three hundred bushels so I appreciate all you farmers do to keep our stomach full thank you farmers for all you do with set backs break downs weather good or we bless you and thank you
Wes, I tell people who complain about what I charge for my services to go in business and do it themselves. They think it's just a machine and a few cutters, what they never realize is the $18,000/yr just for county property tax, the $1500/month for electricity, $1250/month in welding wire and gas,on and on and ALL of it is 2-3 times what it cost just two years ago.
1) How does the John Deere large agricultural equipment leasing work in OLF's part of the US? I have known contractors/ custom harvesters who have leased their large John Deere self propelled forage harvesters for years. The machines they leased were younger than their older self propelled forage harvesters that they own. The contractors/ custom harvesters were basically storing/ polishing/ intermittently running the machines for John Deere most of the year in a shed between harvest seasons. (New Holland has 8 row flip up/ folding corn heads, Capello has 6 row folding corn heads that reduce to 10 feet wide so are inside the combine wheel width) 2) It can be a good idea to go and test drive in a field during harvest any specific model combine/ forager the farmer/ contractor/ custom harvester intends to lease/ purchase. 3) Still looking for a 'Solbere' crop spray on corn study that has been done 4) i.The tractors of the future - the diesel and hydrogen dual fuel together is looking like an option. Volvo trucks and CMB tech (Belgium) are already doing diesel & hydrogen dual fuel for truck conversions. ii. A battery powered large milk tanker is only getting 80 miles/ charge with a 3 ton battery in the flattest valley dairy farm area. The battery is swappable for each milk collection run. 5)Morse, Syracuse New York has made drum handling equipment for 100 years.
Always hate it when a manufacture discontinues parts and support. I about fell out of my chair when you said you may purchase a John Deere combine Wes. Lol It really comes down to dealer support anymore. I'm 95% Deere and only because I have a dealer close. One thing to keep in mind is that a 680 is too big for a 6 row head. Borderline for an 8 row. Reason being is the capacity is too large for the amount of material coming in. You may be forced with going to a larger head and moving from field to field with a header trailer which adds expense of the header trailer. The newer machines literally take less than 5 minutes to hook up once to the field. So, something to keep in mind which you may or may not know.
Krone Stuff is $$$$ Along with JD stuff. Bought a harness recently for an 890, was 1500. But to save money on the auto lube system. Go with Lincoln SV valves, cheaper and actually like them better than the beka.
They sure are making those oil barrels thinner and thinner. I remember when you bounce off a tie like that and not make a dent in them. No matter what you do to make a dollar. Someone’s there to take $3. It’s a no win situation anymore.
Your corn planted into standing oats looks great. ... This is my first year with winter rye so I tested disking it in at planting vs planting green to terminate after emergence -- and then we didn't get rain for five weeks. Most of the rye I disked before planting has dissolved from active soil and let weeds in (likely would have been ok in a normal spring). Where I left rye standing I knocked it flat after the corn finally emerged from some recent rains and see the standing rye kept the weeds back from establishment or leggy and easy to flatten, and now has a mat like I rolled out the weed barrier fabric. Standing and flat rye stops rain-drop-compaction problems too (I'm on clay). So overall I'm a believer and from here on out it's just refining the process. ... Make sure to flatten the rye/oats before the corn really gets going because the standing grain throws enough shade the corn stretches up weak and spindly like the weeds struggled.
Good luck with rain, higher prices and finding the equipment you need. If legislation changes you may be in the grass fed beef direct business. Joel Salitin and others just testified to reduce stupid laws for farmers.
keep farming that way! 10 years from now when everyone else starts trying to figure out how to do it that way too, you will be out yielding them and they will be asking you how to do it.
Same experience when I had my lawn service years ago,, customers grosely underestimated the cost of the equipment I was using. My prices were quite reasonable and possibly a little low,,, I was often complimented on how good of a job I was doing,, my customers liked me and trusted me. I was also delivering pizza full time and I was burned out from no free time so I quit the lawn service.
New Holland has systematically discontinued a LOT of parts. Parts that are normal wear and tear. Appears to me they really don't care. I couldn't believe you were picking up those oil drums. 438 lbs. Suggest saving your back, once you injure it you may be out for life
Most all manufacturers are stopping support of younger and younger (30 to even 20 year old) equipment AND IT SUCKS. No reason for it other than making people buy new or newer equipment. For me it's simple: don't buy a manufacturers equipment line if they create problems for long term ownership.
My cats won't even lick Ritz crackers. I stopped eating them all together and threw them out. Saltines, pickle chips, they'll even try Siete "no-grain" stuff... not Ritz. They stopped being interested in Pringles too. Will still gnarf bread pieces, chimichonga and burrito tortilla and all. I think people don't realize that not only have the food prices gone up but the quality and purity of the food has also gone down.
@@rt3box6tx74definitely. my dad's aunt bought scones in aldi, and as someone who baked and knew quality of cheap food she decided to see how long it would last. It sat on her counter for 5 or 6 years maybe, and looked no different from the day she put it there.
I think an S series Deere would be too big for you. My suggestion would be a 60 or 70 series Deere. Real shame that a perfectly suitable combine will be put down because of a lack of parts. Maybe CNH management will get clued in and realize that a farmer is not going to be dumb enough to buy their new equipment when they just got screwed on the old one they already own. "once bitten - twice shy". I hope some after-market company is able to eventually back fill the void. BTW, I would hang on to the TR even if you get something else because I suspect the trade value will be so low that you will generate more cash by running it. Even if you have to store it outside with a tarp over it because the salvage yard won't be storing it inside.
We move our 8 row right through town on the combine because it’s just about the same width, I’d prefer a 12 row, I’d rather get it off the field quicker, plus ur burning fuel and they handle a 12 row easy but that’s me, nice Deeres down here
they don't want you to farm, nor be independent. public worldwide trading! well, that's all great until it isn't and we need local year round supplies.. ;)
Yep it's not cheap to be a farmer and it's getting worse every year and ppl think us farmers are getting free money but nothing free in this world someone always going to pay for it
I ran in to a problem getting parts for a motor grader around the same year as your combine and Volvo told me they are only required to carry parts for 20 year old or newer machines
I don’t think mr. Trump would make a blind bit of difference to the price of parts, we have a conservative government and it is just as bad over here in fact I went on a parts run on Wednesday and spent almost 70 grand what’s worse is that we have all of it fitted as of an hour ago, so it took 70 grand to keep two men busy for two and a half days! May be my neighbour is right when you need a new set of tyres trade it cos repayments are cheaper than repairs.
at 23:00, you mention that a 12 row head would harvest corn faster than you can handle it. It should be the capacity of the combine that determines the output, not the width of the head. (ie. wider head on same combine = slower ground speed)
no no you misunderstood everything else wouldn't handle it. bins-dryer-trucks. I just do not have the facility to do what im doing. the mill is 99 miles away so im limited on hauling.
@@onelonleyfarmer I understood what you meant. My point is that the width of the head does not determine the combine's output. It is the combine's internal ability to thrash, separate, and move the grain that determines the throughput.
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