WHEEL 2 WHEEL | BMW M3 vs M340i - Cannibalism at its Finest 

M3 but probably the m340 x drive for the Canadian winters if that was an option.

@@zainb2261 it will be on the new m3 it sounds like

I fell in love of the M3 because of Need for Speed Most Wanted. I just wish to get one soon

@@tomahawkfourth9254 far and away the best NFS 💯 the e46 is my next car 🤘

@@dwnshft Nice! I got a parking sign for a BMW from my uncle and honestly if I did buy one I wanna just put that in my garage.

I appreciate the feedback Rob! A couple other people have said the same thing so I will cut it down moving forward. Thanks for watching!

Correct

Eric W i drive in michigan winter in an m3

@@medogabr9952 with snows I would imagine?

Downshift all sznz

@@medogabr9952 that's bold 👀

Because of awd

Medo Gabr audi has beeter real awd called “quatro” and bmw still beat its a$$...so, normal m340i it’s under 12.5

daniel robles no clue what your trying to say. Fix ur english

Medo Gabr fix your brain, i don’t speak Scholar shooting

daniel robles you need to go to grammar school

Who does 0-60 in real life. 30-100 is a better indication and the M3 destroys the 340i there.

Awesome!

I feel that with any mid level 3 series, you’re gonna wanna do a suspension upgrade. The wheel gap and body roll gets to you very quickly. But honestly, with the engine performance being very close on the M340i, I feel that having all of the extra features would be a nice trade off. That is until the new M3 comes out hahah

@@dylanx13x92 agree. A suspension upgrade would do wonders for the 340

@@dylanx13x92 agree. A suspension upgrade would do wonders for the 340

Downshift I think some 340i owners might want to also upgrade the wheels ... when I had the M340i for a week I felt that the rear tires looked too skinny and it would handle better and look better with meatier tires

Hopefully it's good... The X3 M was a fail but there's still hope

HONDA RULES how was the X3 M a fail? tf are you talking about all of the reviews praise it

@@n52gremlin15 I haven't read any reviews that praise it 😂 they all recommend the GLC63S over it

HONDA RULES show me one. all of the ones i find about the x3 are saying how good it is and how it doesn’t even feel like a crossover

@@n52gremlin15 the topgear.com review. They're one of the few who are completely unbiased. Same with caranddriver

That's what I'd think normally. But after driving testing the m340i here in Aus at an overpriced $100k it was very nice and managed a 4s 0-100kph time. - So, the m3 version will be $50k+ more aint worth it. both over-expensive here with our luxury tax we have to pay to attempt to save a car industry we have not had here for years

I’ve been in both and I mutch prefer the m340i. Getting out of the m3 and into the m340i is a drastic difference and the m3 looks 20 years older than the m340i. In real life the m340i the performance is nearly the same but the m3 is better but the m340i is so much better.

What did you with? I’m from nyc also and i can’t decide between the two

@@styellz1548 I also cant decide. Was looking at an f80 and a 2021 Bmw m340i. Cannot make up my mind and need some advice

@@robrub2410any update? I think the M340 is far superior car on the road. Yes, if you’re on a race track the M3 will kill it BUT in most real world situations, the M340 is better.

Nyc also, took the f80. Winter nd all no regrets

Yep and the new G80's are about the same weight now as the M340i.

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Looool, m340i still way more faster than your pony, kid....

Haha mustard gt

No bro. I raced a mustang gt and beat it.

Have you considered Sdrive on it before deciding on Xdrive? If yes, what was your reasoning before choosing Xdrive? Thanks! I'm doing a bit of research to figure out which is better for me.

Semi Reality 100%. Had a ZF in my 4 series before I moved to an M4 and totally agree. Taken me a while to figure out the best setup for my driving style where the ZF was just intuitive and easy to drive every time. Love the M4 though and wouldn’t go back. My advice to anyone who is “on the fence” is take the M car every time if you can. If you even slightly want one then, cost aside, the standard car is just not for you!

@@PrinceBarin77 considering between a 435i and M4. Mostly for daily, is the M4 comfortable enough for long journey? What's the biggest difference in experience between these two?

Seramics Well, I use the M4 as my daily, just like the 440i before it and I love it. But first, the downsides: it’s a much firmer ride, you feel much more of the road and you hear more of it too. Simply put, the car is not as comfortable as a normal 4 series - the question is whether it is too uncomfortable or loud for you which is very subjective. Personally, I soon forgot about it, probably due to all the positives. I should also say, on decent road surfaces, the M4 cruises much like its non-M sibling - on a long motorway journey, I don’t think you’ll notice much difference. That said, there is no lumbar support in the M (at least not in my comp pack) and I have noticed some lower back discomfort - it’s low car that isn’t always the easiest to enter and egress but the same is largely true of the 4. Other differences (personal preference): M4 is much faster, especially once rolling. Steering is much more precise (not necessarily any more feel but tighter and more sensitive). Brakes bite quicker and harder. These traits are among those which make the M4 a more involving and visceral driving experience. Also, the adjustments to steering, suspension, throttle and drivetrain are more nuanced - the 435i will have 4 modes (Efficient through to Sport Plus) but it’s a fairly narrow band of adjustment - this makes it easy to understand and use day to day. The M4 has more adjustments and it takes some time to work out the best combos - take my advice and leave Sport Plus alone until long after you have gotten used to the car. I made the mistake of test driving an M4 and assuming I needed Sport Plus everything to experience it at its best and I was so wrong: far too jittery for anything but the track. I left that first test drive with a very dim view of the car. Sport is plenty, at least to begin with! Positives: M4 looks stunning and has so much road presence. People stop to look at it. They ask you about it. They compliment it. It has character and heritage that a standard car doesn’t. Other M drivers give you a nod that you’ll appreciate. Driving it can be pure theatre - howling, snarling and brutally fast. But, it still carries 2 rear passengers and has a decent boot space which makes it a very practical sports car. I hesitated to buy an M4 for a long time but am so glad I did. I test drove a new M340i xdrive this week - lovely and a great family car (I recommend trying one) but, ultimately rather boring in comparison to the M. That is not a criticism - the M is not for everyone and, if I was doing 15k+ miles per year I don’t think the M would be right - it would probably be too harsh and certainly too expensive (I do less than 8k per year) but I was grinning all the way home in my M4...

Awesome thanks!

It's because of the 4wd system

im 3 years late lol but I would love a response what did you end up doing ? I have a q50 3.7 rn and am leaning towards a m3 need to test drive a m340 tho

@@ausvq I test drove a G80 RWD competition and m340i x-drive on the same day and ended up going with the m340i. It's just a more comfortable car to be in. In sport mode, the M3's throttle response around town is very difficult to use. It's overly twitchy and completely unusable in stop and go traffic and in comfort mode, it's granny response. The m340i was also very soft on the throttle response in eco mode but in sport+ mode, it was sharper and more responsive but not in an uncomfortable way. The suspension in the m340i was also much more comfotable but didnt' feel too hard like the M3 (the m340 had the m-sport adaptive suspension option). From a dig, they felt about the same. The traction control on the M3 is really good. It never lost it's composure but AWD on the m340i made launching the car and cornering effortless. Finally, and subjectively, the m340i just sounds SO much better than the M3. There is this deeper low end grunt that it has and a nice smooth top end higher up in the revs. The M3 has a much more nasally higher RPM howl that is a bit abrasive sounding. The M340i had the M-sport exhaust and I've read that makes a huge difference. Anyways, I ordered an m340i with the adaptive suspension, red vernasca leather interior, shadowline trim, m-sport exhaust and the cooling and high performance tire package which adds bigger brake calipers and rotors, MP4S tires and an extra oil cooler. I've got a few bucks stashed away for a JB4 and active autoworks downpipe and an intake. All in, it was about $70k but still 10 grand cheaper than a low mileage preowned F80 M3. No clue when the car will actually be ready but I'm not comitted to the purchase until I sign at the dealer so if something else comes along in the mean time, I may pass on the m340i but if I get it, it will be exactly how I want it and brand new... and to be totally honest, if I went all in on full M car, I would want to order new so I could get one of those exotic colors and a nicer interior other than black which is what most of the used ones have. Black interior is boring... especially on an M.

electrikoptik agreed

ZF transmission makes it sound better due to the shifts delays. BMW dual clutch whips through the gears thus not creating the rumble the ZF does.

I did, just not on screen. It's quick but not as violent as the M

Not true. The M340 is quicker than the m3 and the m4 0 to 60 times. 4.2 (by bmw meaning that it could be lower) and 4.4 m3 and m4 I've seen many people making those times.

M340 is faster then the m4.. Look at car and driver and r and t.. They got it to 3.79 on the x drive. M4 is hitting 4.0

Artashes Michigan m4 hits in 3.7 thanks

Awesome thanks for leaving the comment Dylan! Glad you like the content! More to come!

Glad you liked it!!

i dont think sooooo . This M340i is a beast

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Hahaha You're not wrong! Bigger and heavier every year. Not the proper formula for good driving feel

And i like it

E46 M3 the Best bmw if u ask me

@@navistormrage5057 the best BMW if you ask anyone with a brain 😜

Then you gotta pay Porsche money. BMW steering isn't what it was but it's direct

I agree it is direct, which helps a ton, but the lack of feedback is still a concern. More recent cars are getting better but they are still a long way off. Porsche was just an example by the way, money has nothing to do with it. Some of the top Ferrari cars have very numb steering, but the little inexpensive Mazda Miata is a dream to drive ;)

@@uspnightfire115 this is fair👍

You must be married to Karen..

@@rodgazinya nah lol I just appreciate my f30 335i msport on a more open road. If someone hops out its game over death.

I think I agree

@@dwnshft of course Man! Everyone knows this new gen m3 will be amazing in every aspect but JUST look at that complet body work. This car is out for more then 5 years & it still looks advanced.

@@davidich3537 agreeeeee

Yeah, it does and I have an M340i.

Average Human very fair it’s been noted!

@@dwnshft just found your channel and super glad I did, very well done! Take what I said with a grain of salt just my own opinion brother!

Average Human no it’s all good, I appreciate the feedback always! Audio balancing issues have plagued me from the jump. Things are a little better now but still not perfect. As the channel grows I can invest in better equipment!

@@dwnshft I got you bro, just subbed. Keep doing what you love

Average Human much appreciated my friend! 🍻

Are you out of your mind? M3 entry still more expensive than m340i xdrive, don’t say things you don’t know.

@@Mrexotic110 it's about the same, give or take a thousand

Dj Sarandos I am saying fully loaded m340i, which is about 70k usd. BMW don’t sell f30 m3 any more, but you can check the c63 for a reference, which is about 65k usd.

@@chariotub1761 wtf, Mercedes have their own pricess, u ain't know nothing, I know that m3 isn't on sale anymore but M340i xdrive it's worth 56k. And m3 was around 65k.

@@djsarandos8138 around 9k difference isn't the same...

🤣 thanks

Mkay

Haha that seems to be the consensus

This video is more for a tech presentation, that's why TkBay uses it for his smartphone reviews

we get shafted by some may pedestrian laws. Just look at the butt of the Bugatti Chiron...

We usually just buy the euro clear ones anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@DaygoG isn't that illegal though? Points fines etc?

@@navijatt yea but so what. I also tint all my windows in 5% tint and we're not supposed to. Victimless crimes.

For my viewers ❤️

Completely agree but logistically it was impossible for the sake of this video. Soon though

Thanks man! I cleansed the channel earlier today and that video had to go I'm sorry. I'll be doing a new video on the M3 soon my friend. Thanks for watching!

@@dwnshft Awesome can't wait to see it!

Thanks! Yeah a couple months back I got a new mic so the quality has been a lot better

Yes, next video will have a drag race! Logistically it was pretty impossible with this video, sorry

J Oh this video is stupid because the new m3 didnt even come out yet that doesnt mean the f series is the better car he isnt giving the new chasis a fair chance by comparing that glorified m sport to a real m car

And now your m3 looks old and outdated and will get smoked by the new m3, probably by a m340i too😂

@@blackfish4674 my dad and one of my best friends both drive new m340's ..fast for sure but different dna.. not as visceral soty bub ..if all you care about is speed , buy a motorcycle or a tesla

Nate N every time

bikes in america are risky. i dnt have the stomach for bikes. i’ve had 5 people over the last 2 years i know die riding bikes .

BIG JDM One of my best friends died in car crash with less than 30mph. Sometimes cars take a lot more than 1 life. It’s kinda mind set of the certain person. Sometimes good and happy people go down without being reckless but I doubt it would had gone differently for them with a car. But good for you! I’m happy you taking care of yourself and others by not doing some that doesn’t suit you. There’s plenty of things I stay away for the same reasons but my life not gonna be the same without riding

Йордан Христов hey, in know way am i saying riding isn’t the ultimate dream for some. i respect it, i seen this girl in chicago 20 yrs old , in a huge bike club , good looking and all. coming back from downtown chicago at night riding the back of another guys bike on the 290. 6 bikes deep, the guy did something silly and hit the median and they both flew and landed on the ground in oncoming traffic, dead . the guy ended up getting ran over and the picture was graphic. from the chest up to the head , all knocked off. broke my heart, i’m sure it’s some great riders out there. i admire them and always make sure i’m not putting biker riders in danger when on the road. salute to you man.

You still watched the video..😘....bud

Thanks! I think you're right. Im working on getting a place to drag race

Russell Brown actually it’s not. That ZF is magic. Get some sports car with that gearbox and see yourself how it performs. That’s crazy how fast and power-efficient that transmission is.

I testdrove m340i today and this “new” zf8 is even a beast compared to my old 328if30. It shifts amazingly fast!!!!

Pedro Brognara that’s not saying much. There’s nothing special about a base level 3 series.

Pedro Brognara nice! It’s an amazing car

Same

One year later the new giant grill on the m3 isn't any better

Idk maybe I misspoke. Where?

@@dwnshft 5:36

He said bends... stop nitpicking most of yall girls are fat and not perfect lol

Thanks! Much appreciated 👍

Stefan Levine this will be kind of like the e90 gen where the 335 could EASILY be faster than the M3 with a flash tune. That v8 M3 is awesome but there is no torque so the turbo in the 335 puts the M to shame

Fair comment

DeCarlo Calloway 😂

Rapxxxure how many prizes has 0-60 won you over your lifetime with a dct ? I’ll wait

@@5abivt ah yes because its all about how much youve won and not about how much fun it is

Heeeyyyyy thanks 😂🤘

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It's a joke dude chill

M G in the X3M the S58 is NASTY. I’m gunna cry when the new M3 comes out

Vlad Inc. that’s gonna be a m only feature. M for marketing lol

You won’t be sorry

Thanks!! Glad to have you!