When ants went to war

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'Supersaf' AhmedMia, Ali Spagnola and Mehdi 'ElectroBOOM' Sadaghdar discuss a question about curious creature combat.
LATERAL is a weekly podcast about interesting questions and even more interesting answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit www.lateralcast.com
GUESTS:
'Supersaf' AhmedMia: ‪@SuperSaf‬, / supersaf
Ali Spagnola: ‪@alispagnola‬, / alispagnola
Mehdi 'ElectroBOOM' Sadaghdar: ‪@ElectroBOOM‬, / electroboomguy
HOST: Tom Scott.
QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
EDITED BY: Julie Hassett at The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
GRAPHICS: Chris Hanel at Support Class. Assistant: Dillon Pentz.
MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com).
QUESTION: Fredrik Jonsson.
FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
© Pad 26 Limited (www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2023.

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@DonPaliPalacios Год назад

Got very excited with the Neuromancer reference. The now sadly defunct podcast Futility Closet (a must-listen for every fan of lateral-thinking puzzles! It's available here on RU-vid) had a lateral-thinking puzzle on episode 363 about it: "A father and daughter read the same opening line from a novel. The father thinks the setting is a cloudy, overcast day, and the daughter think it's sunshine. Why?"

@Cloiss_ Год назад

oh wow that's such a cool puzzle

@MrSonny6155 Год назад

There has to be so many books out there with subtle descriptions like this warped by the change in era. Or maybe every book in time.

@paulheitkemper1559 Год назад

@Don I immediately thought of Futility Closet as well! In fact, my friend and I have both submitted puzzles that were featured there.

@qwertyTRiG Год назад

I miss Futility Closet. They were great. I actually found them through Tom Scott: I was looking for the Citation Needed episode on Ruth Belville, and found their episode instead.

@arctic.wizard Год назад

I'm Swedish and we also called it "war of the ants" so had to sit this one out.

@markusklyver6277 Год назад

Yeah I got it immediately too.

@korganrocks3995 Год назад

Myrkrig!

@roaringviking5693 Год назад

We always called it "myrornas krig" in my corner of Sweden, so literally "war of the ants".

@dr.blauerkraut Год назад

A Dane here. I haven't heard anyone call it "war of the ants" for a long time. it's mostly a term used by the older generations, which is actually an imperfect, however very accurate translation. I would say "ant war," or "myrekrig" in Danish.

@aphexpesuto Год назад

I concur. My parents usually called it "snow", but I believe I've heard a sibling call it "ant wars".

@writeordie5452 Год назад

Swede here - likewise. We too call it "Myrornas krig", but I haven't heard it used since probably the early 00s.

@trixter21992251 Год назад

we called it black dots versus white dots

@GokkeSokkenDK Год назад

Damn.. I'm 28 and I used the term myrekrig

@patrickmaurer2716 Год назад

In germany we also used to call it that ;)

@B14CK313 Год назад

I'm from Germany and know this as "Ameisenrennen" (ant race). Very interesting how different languages have the ant as common denominator here.

@berndbeispielmensch Год назад

I knew it as 'Ameisenfußball', ant soccer. But it still took me some time to make the connection. I haven't heard the term for many years.

@TheBrain2K Год назад

Interesting. I'm from Switzerland and have never heard either of those terms (Ameisenrennen or Ameisenfussball). We just called it snow (Schnee) as far as I remember. Especially in the context of interference or slightly out-of-tune, when it's static mixed in with the channel's actual signal.

@librasgirl08 6 месяцев назад

Never heard of those and I'm German. Just knew ant war.

@zwerko Год назад

One of the rare ones I knew immediately what they were about, even tho I never heard of 'war of the ants'...

@adamsbja Год назад

Yeah, I didn't know *right away* but the pin dropped so quickly I'd have had to bow out. As soon as Ali said "so 1% of it is from space" old science magazines I read as a kid popped into my brain.

@Thermalions Год назад

Same, the replaced by coloured rectangles gave it away. We always called it snow growing up.

@echosystemname2780 Год назад

neil gaiman uses the dead channel line in neverwhere both as a reference to neuromancer, but also acknowledging how that could be interpreted in a more modern time, because it is describing a bright cloudless day that the characters in neverwhere were experiencing, not the grey cloudy day from neuromancer.

@BBKing1977 Год назад

In Canada we often called it "snow" or simply "static". There's no way I would've guessed this one if Ali hadn't started leading in that direction. I was so lost before that.

Год назад

Same in Catalan.

@unexpected2475 Год назад

I grew up calling it static as well (also canadian). I guess I'm only barely old enough to know what it is.

@AFNacapella Год назад

"There's only snow on the TV!" "What?!" "it's the winter olympics" classic joke from when I grew up

@DerZocker2000000 11 месяцев назад

i'm from austria, so a german speaking country, and it is sometimes reffered to as "ameisenfußball"

@JonBerry555 9 месяцев назад

so do us Americans (at least in Illinois)

@faenethlorhalien Год назад

In Spain we used to call it "nieve", meaning "snow".

@colonelb Год назад

I'm in my 40s and grew up in the 80s/90s and remember this well. My older sister actually tricked me when I was 4 and told me that it was "ant races" and had me watch to try and find the winner, that kept me busy for longer than it should have, lol.

@TheVoidSinger Год назад

got that one immediately... but I'm old so "tv snow" was a thing I was very familiar with growing up

@thomasbawden1321 Год назад

So William Gibson, author of Neuromancer, did an AMA on reddit. He had to be shown how reddit worked because he had never used the internet. When asked why he was so bad with technology he answered "have you read my books?"

@F41nt13 Год назад

Here in Hungary we call it hangyafoci, which means antfootball. Finally a question I could answer immediatelly :D

@edgarleft Год назад

Here before the thumbnail has been updated.

@klabence Год назад

Somehow the auto-thumbnail was Tom waving though.

@demithefiend Год назад

ditto

@der.Schtefan Год назад

What was it before?

@edgarleft Год назад

@@der.Schtefan I believe it was the thumbnail of the previous video.

@RiedlerMusics Год назад

I got this one about halfway through :) Really proud of myself rn. And yes, here in austria we call it "Schnee" - which translates to snow. We used to joke that the ORF (austrian federal broadcasting corporation) was sending their 24/7 snow broadcast sometimes. Well, that was before analogue TV was discontinued in 2011 and we never bothered to upgrade because there was this little thing called "internet streaming" now.

@tobiasrosenkranz Год назад

In Germany that program is also called "Reinhold Messner im Schneesturm" (Reinhold Messner in a blizard). 😆

@AnnaNicole. Год назад

“Salt and pepper wars” is my term for it.

@StrangeChickandPuppo Год назад

This was the first one that I figured out juuuust before the others in the panel

@Epinardscaramel Год назад

For once, I got that one immediately 🤗 Every clue fit

@camfunme Год назад

Here in Australia, we call it snow.

@Chazbc Год назад

Oh, I know this one! Dave Matthews Band!

@ryanclark6402 Год назад

I’m actually ashamed to have laughed at this. Well done, fellow poster. :)

@confusedbystander2898 Год назад

Colorcoded subtitles? What a G!

@merilahna Год назад

as a finnish person hearing "ant football" immediately gave this one away for me. fun fun

@DerMarkus1982 Год назад

0:22 TV "no signal" static! (Nowadays it's whatever the OEM put into the firmware of their "TV" devices.)

@herbstwerk Год назад

Yub, "The sky above the port was the colour of television, tuned to a dead channel." was of the first things that went through my mind after reading the question.

@jannepeltonen2036 Год назад

"Lumisade" ( "snow" as in when the snow is falling, "*snow rain") in Finnish.

@seraphina985 Год назад

Seems like rain is more of a generic term for precipitation in Finnish then? Then again I suppose that isn't so different to the metaphorical use of weather related words eg rain to describe just about anything other than precipitation that is falling too. A rain of ash or hail of arrows for example.

@UngodlyFreak Год назад

I also vaguely remember someone calling it "muurahaissota" ("ant war") when I was a child in late 90s, but "lumisade" was more common.

@TurboLingaLanguages 7 месяцев назад

Ahhh... memories of playing with the rabbit ears (antennae) on the back of the TV to get the picture to tune better. It was 1975.

@faltrion Год назад

Beeing from Sweden and beeing older, I grew up with the 'war of the ants'. So I managed to get this, within just a few seconds :-)

@metallsnubben Год назад

Haha basically: read video title -> "is this about...?" -> click video -> "yeah it is"

@NeovanGoth Год назад

Greetings from Germany! We called it "Ameisenfußball" (ant football)

@DumbDrum Год назад

Saf got it right off the bat - it was the TV behind you Tom!

@etekweb Год назад

I got this one! I think the hint that gave it to me was that "my background isn't entirely unrelated" comment. I looked at it and was like "that kinda looks like pixelation when a digital TV signal is interrupted..." Then my mind went back to analog and I put together the rest from there!

@dcltdw Год назад

I'm not _very_ surprised that Tom knows the first line of Neuromancer, but okay, a little bit surprised. Now I'm curious if he ever goes to sci-fi/fantasy conventions, or if that falls under the very reasonable question of "why would I ever want to do that?!?". :D

@dramaticaloverload 2 месяца назад

There's this cartoon called "Haunted Tales for Wicked Kids" where the protagonist says he's watching "a race between ants and rice" or something like that!

@ms.antithesis 2 месяца назад

as a kid we always called tv static "bee noises"

@vamposdecampos Год назад

"Fleas" in Romanian :) But since I've only ever said it or heard it in Romanian ("purici"), this took me a while.

@maruftim 10 месяцев назад

yepp got it straight, though here we call it either "ant's nest" or the tv is "covered by ants"

@DaTimmeh 2 месяца назад

1% from outerspace part got me so close to the answer, and I drifted further away with every passing moment from there. I was thinking about radiation interference from space but in regards to flipping bits, and affecting computers on a hardware level. Could not figure out how to connect that with any of the other info though.

@raphaelnikolaus0486 11 месяцев назад

"Ants in a snowstorm" is what we called it. Not sure, whether it was family exclusive or an actual regional expression. I'm from Cologne, Rhineland, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany - to give you the locations.

@holgerchristiansen4003 Год назад

I would have had to sit this one out. Can't remember when I last saw it, though.

@simonro9168 Год назад

When I (19 y/o) was in Elementary school here in Germany there was a big CRT that would get wheeled in for videos occasionally. We did call it ant war, which always lasted a while while the teachers tried to figure out how to select the right input and everything. Hence I immediately had a suspicion about the answer.

@whynotanyting Год назад

I've always thought blue was for missing inputs and static was from dead channels. At least, I feel like I had televisions that did that.

@algorithmizer Год назад

Tom has been out-technicality'd, the first horseman of apocalypse!

@gljames24 Год назад

The 1% from outer space immediately gave it away for me!

@tttITA10 Год назад

Imediate answer: that old black and white static from old tvs.

@markusklyver6277 Год назад

As I Swede this one was easypeasy

@ConnorHay 7 месяцев назад

My first one I got right off the bat. I’m so proud

@bogella2225 2 месяца назад

As a kid from wisconsin we said the Tv was snowing

@Qexilber Год назад

I knew that because in German it is also called "Ant war" by many people: Kampf der Ameisen. When I first heard that as a kid I was baffled by that fitting but creative name for that thing I had never heard a word for before. I still it utterly hilarious. The only other thing that I have heard used on a regular basis is "Rauschen" which is basically "noise".

@samtherat6 Год назад

Damn, I feel dumb. It’s so obvious.

@rockcollector Год назад

its not only in denmark, it was also used in sweden

@56independent42 Год назад

3:24 not quite. I was born in 2006 and watched TV before the UK switched to digital. Dad showed me the snow i liked every so often. But he did say it was just universe background radiation from the big bang and didn't mention anything about earth

@nathangamble125 Год назад

My guess: TV static.

@ardidsonriente2223 Год назад

Blind answer before viewing the full video. Pessible spoiler if I'm right! Its the old tv interference in the screen when there are no channels tuned?

@PlaAwa Год назад

and the rectangle part? is that what happens on digital tvs?

@AceSkates Год назад

woah! I guessed this straight up! That is the first time ever

@qwertyTRiG Год назад

I'm embarrassed that I didn't get this one; I've heard of it.

@uberubermensch Год назад

As someone who read Necromancer, it did take me a moment, beautiful.

@librasgirl08 6 месяцев назад

Oh I just heard the question and know the answer. We call it ant war in German, too.

@panda4247 11 месяцев назад

Never heard of ants. We called it "graining" (loteral translation of a made-up word) and "TV for chicken" because it resembled grains falling down

@miketree7715 Год назад

but why are untuned tv screens blue?

@munjee2 Год назад

We just called those "flies" in my household

@NPSao Год назад

I got it correct right after the question, horray!

@MrTandtrollet Год назад

Being Swedish this was immidiately obvious X-D

@MrFunreal Год назад

Woke up, found new video uploaded 7 minutes ago. Today is a good day

@The_goofball Год назад

Same but it was 14 minutes ago for me lol

@10thdoctor15 11 месяцев назад

Didn't know it was called 'war of the ants' or anything similar. I've heard it called snow, but it's mostly known as static. Got it from the 1% clue.

@ltloxa1159 Год назад

We say this all the way over in the Swedish minority of Finland.

@davidioanhedges Год назад

We've given up our Cosmic Background Radiation detectors in preference to DVB ..... ....soon to be replaced by WiFi is Down ...

@alexrowaan7326 Год назад

I thought it was the squiggly eye floaties that you see sometimes, and I thought the "from out of this world" was because people presumably mistook them for UFOs

@dwarftoad Год назад

As someone Tom's age I knew it immediately, thought Mehdi might know it (how old is he?) but for anyone younger it would be far more obscure historical trivia!

@korganrocks3995 Год назад

Mehdi seems like the kind of guy who would have been too busy looking into the insides of the tv to actually watch the screen! 😄

@panda4247 11 месяцев назад

I am also roughly Tom's age, but never heard anything with ants. We called it TV for chicken, because it resembled grains falling down... Obviously it's hard to translate literally made up words, but we also had word that could be translated as "graining"

@uplink-on-yt 11 месяцев назад

"The sky was the colour of a television tuned to a dead channel" It was black with a randomly moving text box (with or without a border) that said "no signal"? I mean, this will definitely happen once sky ads become reality.

@lilywashere27 Год назад

Why did I know this? I can't remember where I learned it

@1me3 Год назад

He is editing a thumbnail right now

@alvinadark3507 Год назад

Swiss here, I only knew it as Ant race

@emile_jeanne Год назад

Why is there one chapter called "KRANKENTHEJANKEN 3 BITS"

@SmallBlogV8 Год назад

I actually got one before they did!! Woo!

@undefined40 8 месяцев назад

we just called it "weißes Rauschen" (white noise)

@JennaGetsCreative Год назад

Fun fact, people like me with Visual Snow Syndrome see that overlaid on everything.

@pohjanvanamo Год назад

It's tv static, isn't it? Ant football 😅 Haven't watched the video yet, only the question. Brb.

@pohjanvanamo Год назад

Hey, yey, it was. Yeah... snowing too. Ah, those were the days xD

@ClonedGamer001 Год назад

Is that a BR from Halo in the thumbnail or am I crazy?

@aidanbrumsickle 4 месяца назад

I'm guessing... analog TV static.

@zigarettenbruch6999 Год назад

I was thinking the same thing as Medhi... Everything on Earth is from space! Ha!

@m4rcyonstation93 Год назад

nice thumbnail

@LymusIll Год назад

"naturally occurring" was quite the misdirection

@kenzieduckmoo Год назад

this episode was super short, like 30 minutes.

@askiiart Год назад

Come on people, no Hunter X Hunter references yet?

@pedro1492 Год назад

Zerg vs Zerg FFA

@tonywackett326 Год назад

I'll be disappointed if Mehdi doesn't shock himself.

@somecreeep Год назад

Mosquito races!

@TrabberShir Год назад

... your CRT does not in any way detect the CMBR. One accidental word took your final sentence from "poor wording but technically true, to completely false. "Cosmic background radiation" would have been okay, poor wording in my opinion, but technically true. Adding the word "microwave" just made that sentence completely incorrect.

@firstcynic92 Год назад

Another one that I figured out in a couple of seconds, just from the question. Seems to me these are getting easier.

@gamesetmatt23 Год назад

Yeah, agree. Got this one pretty quickly.

@myles_c5062 Год назад

we usually call it ''snowflake screen'' in China

@rogiermaas Год назад

Yey! I'm the one thousandth person to like this video! ;-)

@arikwolf3777 Год назад

Okay, this is the third time in a row I knew the answer. Should I be worried? P.S. I called it _Ant Wars._

@peterknutsen3070 Год назад

I've never heard it called "myrekrig" here in Denmark. It's "sne", snow.

@57thorns Год назад

"Myrornas krig" is definitely used in Sweden though. So I had this after about ten seconds of the video.

@peterknutsen3070 Год назад

@@57thorns I was able to guess it about 5-10 seconds into the video too. But I've never heard the myrekrig thing. I'm from 1977 and I've lived my entire life in eastern Denmark, mostly in or near Copenhagen.

@dr.blauerkraut Год назад

It's mostly used by the older generations, my dad still calls it that. Sometimes he says "flimmer" as well tho