When did doctors become experts at cutting weight? 

I always get the impression that when the camera goes off and the mic gets cut, Chael continues to pontificate like this on his own for the rest of the day without an audience.

No, doctors aren't experts in weight cutting. They are however experts in the possibility and effects of short and long-term health complications caused by the sudden and drastic impact on the body and brains ability to handle extreme fluid loss in a very short amount of time. An Oncologist isn't required to have cancer his or herself to be able to see, diagnose and make reasonable predictions and precautions based on what they see in a cancer sufferer. I honestly can't work out if this a troll or not.

The ONE FC is the right way to do it. Just test the body's hydration level and not let people cut. Everyone went up a weight class. Chael is right, wrestling, they solved this decades ago.

As someone who has been a ringside doctor are UFC event who has cut weight myself with world champion fighters I agree with Chsely 100 percent on this.

Chael "I offer to you" Sonnen

Doctors are not experts at cutting weight. They are EXPERTS in maintaining health and preventing/treating complications. Even most nurses and medical students have seen and managed (or at least watched) many cases of severe dehydration, hypotension (low blood pressure), tachycardia (fast heart) and other conditions like sepsis or emergencies which have very similar signs/symptoms with extreme weight cutting complications. They know (or at least they should) know when and how to intervene to maintain homeostasis and organ perfusion. The flip side of the situation is that the doctor does not intervene, Yoel is rushed to the ED with severe dehydration and electrolyte imbalances and has organ damage (eg kidneys/brain) or worse suffers and arrhythmia (abnormal heart rhythm) and dies. Then what??? The doctor is there for a reason. Let him do his job, the doctor does not care how many extra hours the commission gives for a fighter to cut weight. If the doctor is concerned then thats it.. Times over

Who needs a doctor when youre the real American gangster!

Chael is right once again. Doctors know a lot when they are playing in their own field. But when it comes to losing fat, gaining muscle, or ridding yourself of water, no! Ask a pro bodybuilder for those topics. They do it for a living.

I'v just realised Chael is the guy they tried to put in the hole.

Bro Science > Science

NCAA also does hydration testing. That's a key element that you're missing.

Always a great presentation. Thank you!

Same day weigh in makes 100% sense

Excellent subject! Well done and well articulated!

CHAEL QUICK VIDEO IDEA: Reach in MMA is flawed. Measuring from fingertip-to-fingertip doesn't accurately describe one's reach because people have different body types. Two people may have the same span from fingertip-to-fingertip but one person might have a wider body frame and shorter arms.

Crying Shame I can't Thumbs up this Greatest of all Chael Rants (aka First Rate Education) more than once. I have watched (more importantly, I Listened) to this 3 times now and learn something new each time. Thank you Chael

Wooooooooow An all American wrestler.....revolutionizing the way to look at weight cutting You sir, are my new hero, Goddamn dude, i am really impressed with this talk

Chael can't WAIT to pick literally anything apart even if he's not 100% on the money

Chael brings up good points and has a right to be in this conversation as he is a living breathing example of all this shit and has done it for years

Just as Max is being rightfully pulled out form Ortega fight because of a stroke/concussion, Chael releases this... :) Ahhh, he really is a special type of an analyst :)

I wrestled in college. I was in NAIA, but it was the same weigh in procedures as NCAA. There is A LOT of weight cutting. If it is an open tournament, you can wrestle in a higher weight class if you miss weight. Chael is not being completely honest or things were different when he competed, or he has brain damage. But what do I know? This man has never lost a single second of a single round of a single fight. He knows it all!!!

a doc doesn't have to go through a heart operation to perform a heart operation :/

I think you should look into a condition called Low Laten inhibition or LLI. I have this and think you may have it as well. Should explain a lot once you are aware of it. Love your show and channel!

Gotta Love "The American Gangster" Chael P Sonnen..The Man, The Myth, The Legend. You are my Doctor Chael, Id let you advise me Anytime

John Peretti decided there were going to be gloves and weightclasses not some commission. Extreme fighting was a weightclass event from the very beginning and they also introduced the gloves to it.

In IPF powerlifting there are 2 hour weigh-ins and people still cut some weight, but on average it's in the neighbourhood of 3-5% of bodyweight. There are some that cut more but not many. And that much weight is relatively easy to cut and recover. Some people can fluctuate by that much over the course of a normal week.

There should be a weight check when a deal is signed and weight checks throughout a training camp and a day of weigh in and a reasonable variation allowed. It would force people to fight at their walk around weight. I'm personally tired of every other card being ruined by a bad cut being pulled off the card.

drs see ppl dehydrated all the time and spend 8 years in school learning about the biology of the body ie why it needs water, what happens if it doesn't get water, etc. much more expertise than fixing a broken bone...also many drs served overseas, played sports, etc. it's not like there's one single path to be a Dr. you're allowed to participate in other things than just school and med lab so it's very likely that SOME drs can be pretty insightful on this topic. love ya Chael but c'mon man

This is chaels best and most unjustified rant ever

Here's the solution: Have a weigh in AND a weigh out. Problem solved! No more of this, "I fight at 155 but re-hydrate to 190" BS. You weigh in for your weight class the day before the fight, then you weigh out immediately after your fight. If you weigh 5 pounds over your weight class after the fight, then that's also considered missing weight and a DQ.

@chael sonnen. I love this vid the most. I forwarded this to my fellow docs who know my position on similar matters. Most people think doctors are the be all and end all of health. But I always tell them to take our consult with a grain of salt. In relation to your vid. I remind my colleagues the many inaccuracies in school and most of all, the last people you should ask regarding diet and exercise are doctors. Esp. exercise.

Really good point

I like the “There’s Something About Mary” reference, well done Chael.

I'm pretty sure the doctors the UFC employ will have knowledge of how bad dehydrating your body so much can cause

BEST Chael EVER!

He actually makes a really good point.

The movie he was referring to was something about Mary when he picks up the hitchhiker haha

Ben askrin gave a perfect way to regulate weight cut. Not allow dehydration by testing the amount of water in your urine right before weigh ins

Chael "gotta kick my legs up & feet on table" Sonnen. And even put my feet on other peoples table ie. old JRE episode

I totally get his point, and I agree about the weigh-in. However, presuming they are limited in expertise simply because they have never de-hydrated is ridiculous. Most lower-leg surgeons have never had a tib-fib fracture, but they do know about the negative effects of it and they even know how to fix it.

Hahaha, is he referring to the crazy guy who picks Stiller up on the road in Something About Mary with the “6 minute abs”?

"There's something about Mary" is the 7minute scene he's referring to. It's really funny.

Chael give us your opinion about all the drama that’s coming up leading to UFC 226

After this .. n many other chael got my mind

This scenario could be used in so many other ways when talking to “health professionals”. The people who have unwavering faith in a doctor are spasticated. Ask 5 different doctors the same question you’re going to get different answers

Chael is dropping some good points.

Brendan Schaub dressed up like a car salesman for his 4th of July podcast. I think that if you're Chael, however, then everyday is your own personal 4th of July!

chael has the best point and that is to eliminate weight cutting, and to weigh them in one hour prior to the fight...he's right this is six minute abs all over again

13:38 One of their names was billy sailor my parents were great friends with him. He died his freshman year he was wearing a sauna suit and was riding his bike to practice when he passed out

Smart man. Very smart.

Happy fourth..but like max sed ....the real fireworks are on sat the 7th

I would love to know what Tyron woodley walks into the cage weighing or even Till. Till had to weight 189lbs the morning of and had to cut weight again! Fighting as a 170lb fighter

The only "real" problem with wieght cutting is the new aggressive techniques just quagmire the divisions with fighters that belong in a higher weight class and sometimes even 2 wieght classes up. If cuts we're limited to % of overall it would add a new look to current divisions.

what if they did opening day fight week weigh-ins where the fighter must be 7-10 pounds of their agreed upon weight class and then do the official weigh in around lunch time of fight day leaving the fighter about 2-5 hours of rehydration and refueling before competition

Love how Chael sonnen references there’s something about Mary

As soon as they graduated lol.

I say instead of changing the weight cutting process change the punishments for missing weight. For example, miss weight once 50 percent of your purse, a second time forced to move weight division and fined 50 percent of your purse

As I get older and the shroud of perfection is lifted off of the many types professions I would have never questioned, as I deemed them unquestionable, I realize that many of them can and do make an inrdinate amount of mistakes and even show a lack of knowledge in their profession . And a GP, general practitioner, more often than not are far too incompetent for their position. I cant tell u the number of times I have visited a GP only to be shocked at their level of both incompetence and lack caring. They seem to always have one eye on the clock trying to rush each patient out under 14 minutes to get 4 patients in each hour. They almost show a disdain for their work at times because they are not a specialist and making the big bucks....

chael is right, get rid of weight cutting, if u can fight, fight at your regular weight, that weight cutting can take a toll on fighters n u don't really see their full fighting potential, because they always drained physically n mentally . I thought chael was just a loud mouth, but after watching some of his videos, he makes a lot of senses on a lot of topics

Chael as President

4:29 god i love chael

Either do same day weigh-ins and have fighters stop cutting weight, or only cutting a few lbs. Or... The beginning of Fight Week have the weigh-ins at the beginning of the week. And allow the fighters to have 5 days to replenish themselves. That way there is no excuse to weight issues.

It's all about liability and lawsuits.

Have a weigh-in the week before the fight. Then one more the day of or before the fight. If you're not under the weight for both then you don't fight.

They are the enforcement when it comes to assessing your current health according to your blood panels.

The movie is “There’s something about Mary”..great movie!

As a wrestler what Chael is saying is true. Same day weigh ins eliminates harsh weight cuts. If they do a harsh weight cut then the oerformance will not be good simple as that.

as a former wrestler and the fact I'm going to be a doctor, I feel like I'd be good at the job, I might be able to give advice to teams that don't know what you are doing. my main concern would be if the fighter would be able to rehydrate in the 30-36 hours they have before the fight.

Wow, i was going into this thinking I was going to disagree but i just cant. Chael hit it on the head.

Wait. So fighters dont have a Dr (from anyone) to consult on fight week? Because that Dr would have an ass ton of expeirence and would be great resource for the overall health of the fighter.

Dr. Chael P. Sonnen at it's finest ..

Why aren’t hydration tests mentioned?

Dehydration is a component in even the most basic of EMT educations. So yes, medical doctors are experts on the effects of dehydration, and the means to correct said condition.

thank you Chael, just because you took some BS class in post secondary dont make you smarter than everyone! I went strait to working and 4 years later im almost making 100k, while most of the kids that i went to high-school with who went the college/uni route are struggling to get entry level work!

Chael for UFC President

The athletic commissions' inability to make fast, clear, and decisive decisions in regards to rule-sets in MMA is embarrassing to the sport, dangerous to the fighters, and ultimately dangerous to the sport as a whole. For example, the concept of MMA constantly growing is reliant on marketability and making the sport more universally accepted to new audiences. MMA is big in north America, but it still has ALOT of growing to do in order to compete with sports like soccer, cricket, to name a few. If some body dies from a weight cut, could you imagine the press and media coverage for the event? It would get national news (which the sport currently does not receive outside major sports broadcasting). It would be like an nfl player dying on the field from a tackle. That would be the worst thing that could happen to the sport, because it would immediately put a black eye on MMA in the eyes of people who don't know much about it (who the sport relies on for future growth in a linear fashion). One could argue that the sport, in its infancy, was already being demonized and labelled a blood sport for serial killers and rapists, but isn't it more unlikely that the world would accept the sport had some one died, than back when the sport was still relatively taboo and unknown to the masses? I seriously think this could ruin the sport from growing bigger than it already is, and would provide a black eye that could never heal. And it's not up to the athlete's judgement to decide when is enough, because they are looking for any edge they can get (just look at the olympics and doping). Rather, it's ultimately up to the commission's ability to make fast decisions before some body dies, make the rules made clear and universal across all commissions, and to be more decisive in their decision making by being more serious about every rule they set out (which includes standing by their decisions and not "flip-flopping", and go all-the-way with their decisions instead of a "half-this-way, half-that-way" approach). Am I the only one on this?

6 minute abs movie he was talking about is something about mary lol. Classic. Actually 7 min abs though. Look up scene.

Support or eliminate weight cutting. Monitored IVs & time, or disqualification trending penalty escalation. Weigh fighters outside the cage and give them bonus points or penalties. Weight classes are fascinatingly deceptive - an interesting aspect of some sports; I’m confident it could be more safely done to greater extremes. Desiccating organic life is like overloading any supply chain - passing certain thresholds will break it, but short of that or an emergency, it’ll probably be mostly ok, in general. If football compelled extreme water-weight cutting without sufficient rehydration, the play quality would drop profoundly and so would the players' health - record breaking broken bodies, brains, and life function. I’m also an anti-fan of willful unreason such as is often found by the sufficiently perceptive in the deficiently honest/humble. Doctors, and other’s granted consensus authoritative status, more often than not (IME) play ego defense games when their implicit/explicit claim of sufficient expertise meets acutely exposed ignorance about some authoritative declaration..people in general tend to be this way..notice?

Originally, I thought he was having a go a doctors stopping weigh cuts but after watching the vid I realized that Chael's point is that it makes more sense to stop weight cutting as a practice rather than regulate it. And he's right. Doctors aren't authorities on weight cutting and they aren't supposed to be. Medically, the only safe option is to have no weight cutting at all. It would be better for the fans and the fighters to not have it anymore. Less cancelled fights and less size disparity between fighters. Nobody cares who the near-suicide-through-dehydration champion of the world is.

The problem is the fighters and the doctors won't reach a compromise, they talk at each other not to each other So you listen to the person with the more reputable vocation when it comes to peoples wellbeing. OR since you won't discuss like adults, you'll be told like children

Always been against weight ins I have wrestled, did judo and also a fighter weight ins are a joke they need to get rid of them a lot of people use that to their advantage for example I weigh 220lbs I can cut down to 180 and have a huge advantage over the smaller weight class

What do u think about Ortega refusing to fight jermey Stevens

Subscribed 20 minutes ago after hearing him on other shows but hearing this dude talk about how years of education and experience isn’t good enough for overseeing medical matters is too much

chael sonnen is the Bro Fessor of MMA period ... everyone should have a Sonnen PHD before stepping into UFC

america needs chael as president

This man loves to hear himself speak.

One of Chael's gifts in life is the ability to take a bullshit argument and make it sound convincing. With his rant about medical professionals, he did that very well. But that doesn't change the fact that it was a bullshit argument. Even though doctors never cut weight themselves, they don't need to in order to understand what is going to happen. That is what studies are for. None of us need to put a gun to our head and pull the trigger in order to understand what the result will be. The same argument applies to this circumstance. Props to Chael though. The man is one helluva troll.

21 mins hell yeah

ONE FC hydration testing

He had inside info on max Holloway

Chael Sonnen's brain> Doctors and scientists brain

Chael's idea is coming to Bellator and the UFC, the question is when. The NCAA got rid of dehydration in 1997 and One FC got rid of it in 2015, in both cases after competitors died. It is silly that these organizations are waiting for someone else to die before they sign on.

There is excessive weight cuts in wrestling tho? 8-15 pound weight cuts in d1 wrestling is regular

The weigh in 1st time could be to see his walking around weight. The second could be to see how much he's dehydrating. Idk but some boxer said it best, we should fight and normal playing fields. You shouldn't fight near the weight that you are. Saw this fight mungia vs Ali and not Mohammed Ali. Mungia seen like a natural 168 or heavier fighter. He cut the weight to 154 and hammered Ali. No chance.

Max after fail weight cut was in bed saying "someone fucking get Chael please"

One rule that I’ve opened my eyes on are leg kicks. I never want to see a leg kick. When I want to see a leg kick, it’s in the same vein, the same level, as seeing soccer kicks to a grounded opponent. It’s just anti-entertainment, unlike soccer kicks.

Chael "But I Am Voicing To You That There's A Deeper Conversation There" Sonnen.

"Hey doc, have you ever had brain cancer?" "well, no" "Hey doc, have you ever helped someone get brain cancer?" "well, no" "pfft, how the hell can doctors claim theyre experts on brain cancer?!?"

awesome insight

theres a big difference between "been there, done that" knowledge and pinheaded school "knowledge"