Hence why North America needs a huge overhaul in their perspective on commuting I think the young are starting realize being dependent on a car is quite expensive and inefficient for society
Yes it's true I have heard people in thiere late teens early twenties stating that they don't want a car. Too expensive. When I was a kid I never heard such a comment.
It won't be comparable to the older generation. Life is becoming more expensive, since we have more population and mass influx of migration. Clearly alternatives are better...
@@livethefuture2492 yeah because Europe had Germans exporting their trains to nearby neighbours. While East Asia had Japan exporting their bullet trains since 1970s...
OBVIOUSLY you are two IDIOTS That's Broadway ARBUTUS goes north and south I'm always suprise The drive people have conscientious verbiage who had no idea a train track existed Now the clown infiltrated Walk path with thundering bikes of autobahn I have a big surprise for all you FILTHY racers
The key thing here will be a bus exchange/loop. It is the end of the main section of the Broadway Business District. Years from now it could tie into another transit line (light rail perhaps?) running north/south.
I was in Vancouver for the first time this year, and literally three different people (all unprompted) spoke to me about the Skytrain extension as if it were a mythical creature I might just be lucky to see during my lifetime. Thanks for explaining why!
I've been living in Vancouver since the early 90s, and it indeed has changed. Back then it was just the expo line. Then shortly after we got the millennium line. Then we got the Canada line for the Olympics. Then numerous skytrains stations been destroyed and renovated on the expo line. Then the millennium line been extended to go into Coquitlam. Now they're extending the millennium line on the other end to go to Arbutus. We also got a light rail line recently called the West Coast Express that travels from downtown Vancouver to Mission City.
Why would UBC fund a skytrain but when they can spend money on quality art installations like "The Shadow" at a huge bargin! Only 390K for an art project that could have been conceived and implemented for free as a prank by the engineering department in a single night.
The current extension is useful though as a downtown bypass, route to VGH, and it will help a lot of people get to the airport. Also, there were a lot of talking points from anti-skytrain people about "No skytrain for rich entitled students", so it was politically easier to only do a chunk of it. It looks now like the UBC extension has support from most of the relevant authorities, we'll see if it translates to actual results.
There's plans for a gondola from Production Way Station. Even a SkyTrain doesn't have enough acceleration to make it up the mountain - not without ten floors of escalators.
Here in LA, we're going through a similar situation. Route 720 on Wilshire is the busiest bus route in the US. It runs between Downtown and Santa Monica and suffers from overcrowding. One of our subways is going to be extended to Westwood, with stops at the busiest points along the way (Miracle Mile, Restaurant Row (La Cienega), Rodeo, and Century City). It's main intention is to reduce congestion on route 720, but many question why it can't be extended all the way to Santa Monica, where there is still travel demand, but ridership is lower, similar to UBC.
3:58 on the right the dude in the background got honked at while he was crossing the street and the way he let the car go before him was so dramatic xD
It looks like pure politics. If the third of bus 99's users go to UBC, and extending the sky train to UBC will cost one third. That means extending the sky train to UBC has the same feasibility as the first two thirds. More over, they will rid completely of bus 99 , situation will be more complex 2040, and most likely will cost less as one contract.
I moved from Vancouver to Australia 10 years ago, and your awesome videos make me feel like I'm still there (and still bitching about transportation issues!). Great work!
What city did you move to in Australia? I live near Brisbane, and the public transport isn't that great, well not as good as Vancouver's seems to be anyways.
Nope all lies Most PEOPLE of higher income drive dont u looker runnin neighborhood Stop this farce now SHOULD be TITLE my dream is not reality NO PLANS ARBUTUS BROADWAY THATS IT 2 .5 CARS WEST OF GRANVILLE SAY NO MAKES NO SENSE RIP UP ENOUGH RHODIES
South Korea literally has station for every major university. We can keep telling ourselves we are the best in North America. To be frank, our benchmark is a joke. I get it, we planned our cities wrong from the start and now we are paying the cost for it but seriously we have the money. we just keep wasting it in the wrong places and for some reason it takes decades longer to build anything here compared to korea or japan. The inefficiency of this country is ridiculous.
Here is the thing, most of the people go to UBC have Upass, TransLink basically don't want to waste money on UBC students who they can't make money from!
@@georgerustic3817 Because SFU is an area that's otherwise quite inaccessible. If you're, literally, going up a mountain to get to university, there'd better be a skytrain involved. Also, the skytrain to SFU doesn't actually go up to the university, it takes you about halfway up, then you continue the rest of the journey by bus. UBC is far West, but it's not inaccessible by any means.
The UPass is something students pay for in their University fees on an opt-out basis. It is steeply discounted but it is not zero. If the 99 is already being operated at a frequency that serves the dense(ish) employment and residential land use between Commercial Drive and Arbutus, then that modest fee students are paying is likely appropriate to the marginal operating costs of simply running it out to UBC. UBC is also a very large employer as a research university; their ridership demographic is considerably wider than students. There is also an argument to be made for developing ridership habits in students, who are more of a captive market at that stage in life, that may persist beyond graduation when they may choose to be discretionary riders in their post-university careers. If service is reliable, safe, comfortable, connects them to many meaningful places (live, work, and play), and makes a good value proposition versus buying/using a car (an immediately depreciating asset), those thousands of students who graduate each year may choose to become full-price paying customers. How effective this is depends on the qualities I just mentioned but Translink can best demonstrate such qualities through first-hand experience and habit development when students are more obligated to them; it is much harder to convince someone whose primary daily experience is already a private automobile.
The biggest issue is not the money, it is the powerful people who live around UBC, the politicians, and million-dollar mansion owners. The point Grey communication strongly against the public come to their community. They are afraid of the homeless and the drug trafficking problems often come with the Skytrain.
And what happens when all of those UBC students get off the train at Arbutus with several times more passengers than a 99 bus can carry? It will be absolute chaos!
You should make a more contemporary video about TransLink and all its SkyTrain projects. Not only to we have the Broadway Extension underway, but now we have a Langley Extension being studied!
It should have been built 30 years ago. It is a perfect example of CHRONIC CANADIAN LACK OF FORESIGHT. Plus, of course, Ottawa's neglect of The West. The tyranny of Ontario/Quebec. .
Most likely, Broadway isn’t wide enough for them to cost effectively fit an eleevated line in without causing too much disturbance during construction and operation, along with that they’ll really want to get the transfer point at City Hall with the Canada line which would be much more complicated and likely expensive if they had to do an elevated to underground transfer instead of just an underground transfer
Translink exists to curry favour with the suburban cities while short-changing Vancouver. If there was any justice in the world this line would already exist and there'd be a parallel line along 41st and Marine Drive.
I live in Mexico my city is very big and public transport is inefficient sometimes I have to wait 1h for a fucking bus without any sit and so fucking hot and that place it's a bit dangerous And the government increased the price 35% but it is practically 40% cause you can't get that easy 0.50 mexican pesos so you have to give them 40% >:(
They were supposed to continue the SkyTrain from VCC Clark station... I heard it was going to go to UBC when I was in the 7th grade.... 15 years ago....
There are also a lot of NIMBYs with a lot of money in Kits and Point Grey who don't want their neighbourhoods to be "ruined" by rapid transit. You can bet they are fighting tooth and nail against this... The irony is that having rapid transit will actually increase their property values.
I thought the Skytrain extension should at the very least go to Broadway and Alma, where bus service could at least pick up UBC students and shuttle them from there. Financially there might be a lot of arguments against running a line through the UBC highway, (unless it was a cheaper “at grade” streetcar from there. But it should go hand in hand with a four to six storey density increase along Broadway from Arbutus to Alma. The days of just a ground floor retail space with nothing above it along Broadway should have ended 20 years ago. Some of the new buildings around Broadway and Balaclava on the north side of the street should be the future of Broadway.
The new wrinkle in the plan is the development of the old military site at Jericho. With a proposal of 30,000 people living in mixed housing there so the line would have to take that into consideration.
Hey guys, I wish you all the best. I am retired now but back in 1963, I wanted to attend BCIT but it was a year or two out. I went to Oregon State and got my education there.
From the sound of it, Translink is making the right decision. The problem isn't the amount of time it takes for people to get to UBC, the problem is that the bus system can't cope with the demand.
Makes sense to me. Your video explained why translink is building to arbutus. If ubc wants to fully fund the extension out to campus that’s fine but I see no rush to extend sky train into an area still filled with single family homes. Other areas with higher density and commercial should be (and are) the priority.
I don't think "priority" should be the priority. Why do some people matter more? Why prioritize the many at the expense of the few? What if our goal was just a well run, well connected city?
I remember going on that B-Line when I was commuting from home in Surrey to UBC. Such huge lineups, I would always see people jamming themselves in as the last person... Which I have definitely done when running late!
Im not even from Vancouver but visiting UBC I realized the sky train has to go through the rich neighborhoods which will never concede to the idea of the Sky Train
I worked at whole foods on broadway and Cambie about 6 years ago. One day I was working in one of the stock rooms behind the dairy cooler and guess what. There’s an entire “Skytrain” station entrance roughed into this stock room. I asked my manager what it was and he told me straight up. That’s for when the skytrain gets extended to UBC soon. Sounds like they’ve already made these plan way before that new building on the corner of broadway and Cambie was ever built. True story ask any grocery clerk who works at whole foods at broadway and Cambie.
People claim that Vancouver is world class city but the transit system is a complete joke. Please take a look at transit systems in Taipei and Hong Kong and see how extensive their transit systems are.
what is the population density of Taipei and Hong Kong? what is the population of Taipei and Hong Kong? For a fair comparison, you gotta compare Vancouver to other cities like Seattle or Portland. Among North American cities, Vancouver's transit is among top 5, maybe top 3. North American cities are very car dependant. It is just how it is.
Great video, well put together and very informative. Before watching my estimations were roughly 2030 if it ever happens...But in 2040? Wow, this city does move rather slow and extra slow the traffic will be for the 2-3 years building it.
They’re actually building it right now. Very exciting. Another development is they put more resources to the R4 line in 41st, and now in UBC I think R4 is even more popular than 99. R4 is insanely overcrowded now though.
This is just like the San Francisco Central Subway that planned to extend the T line to Fisherman's Wharf. However, this current phase will only be four more stations to Chinatown at a cost of $1.578 billion.
Hi! Can I ask you a writing question? How do you guys do your research? How do you find out the things you didn't know that you didn't know? Great channel!
Why do Canadians hate LRT so much? The US seems to be in love with those things and more and more keep cropping up and expanding. And it works for them fine and made a lot of cities in the US less car dependent.
RedLight GreenArrow i don’t know if you have been on a Canadian skytrain but it’s way more efficient and faster than an LRT... and the the light rail in Seattle sucks big time as it disrupts traffic and is too slow
Never never higher tax bracket Never let that happen FOCUS FOCUS ON 16 AVENUE TO UBC BROADWAY A NON STARTER YOU CAN ENJOY THE BEST PLACE IN VANCOUVER #WESBROOK ON THE SPIRIT no salish name,simple wesbrook Broadway and arbutua STATION be call hunters place Not the ungodly name BroArb, this ain't coquitlan
The transit authority of South East Queensland (within the state of Queensland, Australia) is also called TransLink, so it's really weird hearing their name in a video about Canadian transport.
3 yrs later, update from UBC in 2020 seems it may take a while… Honolulu HART (Transit Authority) copy the idea of SkyTrain (city councils took a trip to YVR) now cost over-run and incomplete 5 miles. I bet ours will take a while too!
How can one expect anything in greater Van regarding transportation to be handled with any common sense at all when looking at the complete debacle of the last 4 decades? I could write a thesis on this but would have to tear all my hair out in the process. Not worth it. The whole mess is without doubt the most incompetent display of decision making the Province has ever seen. Skytrain to Port Moody? Trans Canada Hwy#1 only two lanes out of the city in 2019? Lions Gate Bridge a complete joke. The Massey Tunnel fiasco. No Skytrain to UBC or SFU. Iron Workers Bridge log jam. The Patullo Bridge disaster waiting to happen. No extension Skytrain east of KG Hwy in Surrey for over 40 years and counting. The Viaduct mess in Vanvouver. The idiotic bike lanes everywhere in a Rain Forest climate. I could go on all day but I'm getting woozy... City priority? Paint sidewalk crossings with rainbows! Awesome...
I don't see the problem - even if UBC does not pay the difference. With the Skytrain going to Arbutus (where most people presently taking the bus will use) - that leaves a reduction in usage of the 99B bus by (according to this video) of about 2/3. That is a ton. And - no offense - but 10 or 15 extra minutes to commute is practically nothing. I know people who spend more than 2 hours commuting each day, each way. I know some that spend/spent over 3 each way. And UBC students are whining about an extra 15 minutes? Please. I did enjoy the video though.
