I swear the character development of Vegeta and Goku is outstanding. This is some amazing writing and Im really liking where they are headed with the story.
@@Yldraggin True, but not in a bad way atleast I think. Toriyama reslly didn't like how heroic and serious they made him in Z, he really likes Goku's childlike personality like in the OG series. Only time we get to see him like he was in Z would be the amount of finesse he has while in MUI, other than that he's more of a "Can't wait to see what the rewards of my training look like." guy like kid Goku.
@@Zorisura goku does develop, constantly, but people confuse character development with dramatic character change which isn't always the case, if you pay attention he recently went through a pretty big change in his character facing against Moro
Or he thinks that fighting will just make the situation he's in worse (after cell games). Or he feels that he doesn't have the need to train anymore. Or he *FINALLY* realizes how bad of a father and husband he is, and becomes a family man.
@@zeeem4404 Wrong lmao it's easy to determine which form is which with color and dialogue, also he corrects himself right after 😂 also its because two and blue sound alike
I honestly love Gokus journey, rereading the DB and Z mangas and see where Goku started to where he is now in this chapter is honestly worth keeping up this series
@@mexman3316 I dunno man feels like its never gonna happen. Multitude of excuses that can pop up in two years is staggering. I would bet on at least 8-11 years till we get another series.
But not wen THE SAIYAN IS ON ANGEL LEVEL AND GOD LEVEL granolah has plot amor lmao like I fully agree with him goku train for years, and has actually died from the results of some of his battles but yet a cerealian who doesn’t even have god ki can match up to goku an vegeta idgaf wat the cerealian’s could do to the saiyans back in the day, they weren’t gods
I said before that this fight would end suddenly without a clear winner, and I'm starting to think Vegeta is gonna make my prediction come true. I think Vegeta's gonna figure out that he and Goku were fooled.
@@gavdragon2125 i bet its because of how long it would take to serialize into an anime , its been 3 years since the japanese release and we are only 1 and and a half arc in, the super anime before is i think it had 5 arcs. So if we say that a one whole arc takes 1 year to wrap up. It would take another another 4 years (which would be 7 year gap at minimum from season 1 to season2 of super) to have a 131 episodes of dbzs
@@spookytalesfromthebayou3390 yeah 4 years starting now plus the 3 years since release it would be 7 all which is nuts plus if they release weekly per episode it would take another 3 years assuming that the season 2 is 130 episodes ehich would make it a decade @@
When this gets animated, it will be good.. My grand kids Wil enjoy it, can't wait to tell them stories on how when I was young this was coming out in the manga.
You hit the nail on the head with saying Granolah is just a make a wish character. His design is awesome, back story is cool, but to simply gather TWO dragon balls and make a wish like that kind of turns me off. At least Moro (even if it borrowed a lot of instances from other arcs) was at least a menace and capable prior to his wish for youth.
*Granola will end up becoming either an ally, a victim of his own revenge, or martyr. He will probably end up powerless by being double crossed by the Heaters Gang, he will regain his strength and then sacrifice himself to clean up his mess.*
Goku doesn't want to train anymore!? Oh my, is it because he's finally grown as a person and realized that there's more to life than fighting, and that his time could be better spent with his loved ones and being a real father to goten and a real grandfather to pan, thus trying to make up for how bad a father he was with gohan!? ...no, that would mean that the writers actually had talent.
That or he maybe thinks he has reached his mazed potential ... Or just is getting tired of training and fighting its all hes done since he was a young boy
I mean, Granolah being on the highest level of "raw power" then super saiyan blue (or rather SSB+Kaioken 20 or Vegeta's SSB Evolution) would be the most "raw strength". Either that or Broly, if he is considered into this. Granolah not being on par with Ultra Instinct Goku makes a lot of sense actually. It's not a form or state of raw power.
Goku will never quit training because that's in his blood line of the saiyans because he likes to challenge himself to much and different opponents that way stronger than him. He's also the son of Bardok and Gine so there you go.
I think the white hair is an angel transformation that's more powerful than any super saiyan transformation. So having SSB UI Goku is weaker than the white haired UI. That's just how I see it and from this build up I think it's true.
I can see Goku end up becoming like Aomine from Kuroko’s basketball. Not training anymore because he’s already too good of a fighter until someone comes that can match his strength or be even stronger than him
A more accurate title would be: When Goku doesn't want to take his fights as seriously as he should. We all know that Goku trains his ass off. I mean that was the whole reason that he was able to use UI without needing to transform.
Actually it wasn't really the power of granola that almost put goku down but he was able to see his weak points by looking at his bloodflow and muscle movements and knew exactly where to strike
So does his wish only cover being the strongest when he made it, does his power rise to stay at the top? Does that include multipliers like transformations?
That's a lot of valid question, for now I guess we just can't tell. Being on par with Super Saiyan Blue would make a bit of sense, it's a transformation of power and KI control. Granolah being weaker than Ultra Instinct also makes sense, no one can just give you Ultra Instinct levels of fighting. It's a not a raw power form or state, it's basically the pinnacle of Martial Arts Fighting, which Granolah cannot just wish for.
"When this gets animated and turned into an actual show" We've been waiting three years, it seems like they don't give a damn. People in Japan only watch generic cat ear anime now.
@@iamlocus there have already been several arcs that have been completed in this manga, do you seriously think that dragon Ball was not animated until the buu arc was finished? You're an idiot.
He cant stack any form. This is a common misconception. It isnt like ssg plus ss1=ssblue Hes using ui the TECHNIQUE in other forms, to move subconciously even while not in the ui transformations. Whis mentions in the previous chapter that he should only use mui the form when pushed to his absolute limits.
@@niveditsingh6063 Goku did use Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken in the manga before well more like Perfected Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken but still he used against Jiren in the Tournament Of Power and against Moro in the Moro Arc when charged his Instant Transmission Kamehameha against him.
