When NOT To Call Deer 

Impossible!!! On all the hunting shows as soon as they rattle they just come running!! 🤣 🤣 🤣

Wise man once told me "a lot of lures are meant to catch fishermen" and that has always stuck with me cuz it's so true.

Sorry to hear about your father, I am sure he was a great guy. Lost mine 10 years ago and I still think of him and miss him, hope that feeling never goes away. Been deer hunting 40+ years and only take a grunt tube and only use it when I see a buck when I'm sure he is bypassing me, and the old saying, never grunt when a deer is looking at you is painfully true!

First season bowhunting (second season hunting in general) and I've watched a lot of your videos these last few months to further my understanding of it all. I just took my first deer ever (7 point buck) on state land (Michigan) yesterday, hunting from the ground without a blind, no calls. We had a 20 point temp drop into the 30s, full moon, and rain 2 days leading up to the morning of the hunt. What an experience to say the least. Going into each scout/sit, I've utilized a lot of your methods taught! Will definitely stay tuned to your channel!

One of the best realistic videos on this subject I have ever seen. Real world experience at its best . The scent and call industry must be pissed 😂🤣👍

Another great video. It’s s so refreshing to hear a straight forward nonsense approach to hunting white tails. No gimmicks, just solid techniques.

Crazy good information! Thank you so much for all of your experience and wisdom. There’s not a ton of these informational videos on RU-vid. So when I find one I feel like I struck gold. I watch a lot of The Hunting Public and learned a lot but just got my first bow last year and still learning. Hope all is well!

I’ve found exactly what you said was very true. My favorite caller in thick brush is a turkey caller that masks my movements and deer favor areas with turkeys as they often will move together.

I gave all three of my kids when starting out: a bow, a stand or blind and a grunt call. I taught them to only use the grunt call on a buck that you don't think he is going to present a shot opportunity. I have over the years experimented with all but your advice here is spot on. I've scared the crap out of my fair share. LOL. It's better to just sit quietly and hope to not alert any of the deer's senses. If you do get lucky enough to get a deer to come to a call, he is doing so on high alert and his senses are working O.T.

I completely can attests to the situational nature of the “Snort-Wheeze” I once had a mature 4X4 buck come in escorting a doe and her fawn. The doe and fawn walked across a little field toward my blind to come to the feed site, the buck went straight through the trees for the food... I snort wheezed, and he IMMEDIATELY bristled up and marched his tail toward my blind because his doe and fawn were behind me. I let him walk. I knew there was a bigger buck (which I might add, I got him!) An extremely situational call, the snort-wheeze. Greetings from Saskatchewan Canada 🇨🇦

Good timing, Jeff, got my cup of coffee done and started on the bagel! Good morning fellow hunters! Side note on snort wheeze One evening i sneezed in stand and that spooked a doe i never knew was there. To save the sit, i immediately blew my grunt call. That made a huge buck stick his head up and do the "Predator" clicking noise. Super super aggressive. He never gave me a shot in the thick stuff but it was unreal to hear that noise come from a deer. I will never forget it.

Your channel has been some of the best info for a novice hunter! Appreciate the videos

Best deer hunting advice i ever got was from lt. Dan. He used to tell us to sit down! And shut up!

I just want to take the time to thank you for all your videos. You have educated me in being a better hunter. I have had more success in my hunts since I started watching your videos.

Awesome instructional video. Hunting pressure is the key to almost all calling conditions.

I just got a buck yesterday here in Connecticut. Passed in front of me about 70 yrds out. Went behind me heading to a field. I grunted Once and then I SHUT UP! He ate it up and came 20yds. First one for the season. Great channel I'm always learning something . Keep it up

I got my trophy buck with a snort wheeze last year was really cool watching him March in it’s good/humbling to know that won’t work with every buck thank you

Fresh cup of coffee, kids are fed and playing, time to relax and watch your awesome videos. They get me so pumped up for the early season coming on the 2nd!

Your detailed examples of when and where you use/don't use each hunting aid are "spot-on!"

I've had zero luck with calling out "Here, deer!! Here, deer!" Add it to the list.

The Can I used the first time and it called in a deer. Was the most exciting time in my short hunting experience.

Perfect timing for this. I have been searching daily for information on early season calling. I have always left calls away until November. Great video, good luck hunting everyone!

Very helpful. I haven't been hunting much yet, 6 years in. I've had success the past two years early november with a grunt call - 2-3 grunts in a row, wait 20 mins. Haven't seen any bucks at the time, but trying to call them from their beds and the marsh. I still don't really know what I'm doing, so your channel has helped a lot. Greetings from East Troy WI!

Just wanted to say thank you. My dad really isn’t into hunting but I love it. I’m tracking this 12 point and this video just made a lot of sense and is very educational. You just got a sub man keep making them I’m learning from the internet

I wish this video was around when I started bow hunting 15 years ago. I wasted so much time, effort and money doing all of the things mentioned. Thanks for putting this out to the community. It's nice to see someone not towing the line of bullshit to help sell needless products.

Thanks Mr Jeff I have been hunting white tail for about 30 years now there's not a mistake I have not made and I have killed my fair share and your videos are awesome and I agree with you on everything that you said in this video Thanks very much for your time.

As a PA hunter, all this information is spot on.

THIS!!!Gotta like the topic Jeff,some of my most memorable hunts have involved calls. What you use and when you use it is most important.I have used a Doe bleat ,doe grunt in conjunction with a Fawn whine from Nov 7th until Nov 16th, over many years and have called many bucks in SE Michigan.Many times a buck grunt will frighten a buck away especially less than 3 YO's.It has worked for me,and i consider calls to be another tool to use.NEVER OVER CALL! SPOT ON!!!

Thanks for sharing. Some good information. I had an interesting experience once while I was ground hunting in a river bottom. I had a doe bleat "Can" and I made a couple of soft doe bleats and then put it away. Several minutes later, a squirrel, way off in the distance, started barking and whining. I knew something was up and I was on high alert. The rifle I had with me was resting on a bipod and was snugged up against my shoulder. It was a 45-70 loaded with a 405 grain lead bullet. As I was peering over the scope I caught some movement about 20 yards out. It was a Coyote that had heard the call and was sneaking in to get a chance at a meal. It was going to be his last supper. By the way, 45-70 is a great Coyote round. LOL

This advice has really helped me a lot. I always bring a grunt call with me when I go hunting but only blow it once every 15 to 30 minutes or even an hour and I've had success bringing in bucks with it.

Shot my biggest buck to date 173” with a doe bleat, and a grunt sequence. Came in lip curling and scraping and rubbing trees what a show!

You are awesome... This is how I've hunted for many years. The one doe bleat I use (only sometimes)is the can, but there's a trick to it that I'm not sharing. Stay clean and ambush.

Jeff, my 2020 buck, Slim, had the same personality as Venty in that he was very passive. 4 years of post season pics never showed a single broken tine. I never laid eyes on him until 4 days before I arrowed him on November 1st and he was dangerously close to getting my downwind so I grunted and he tucked tail and slipped away. It was key info I used when he appeared 4 days later and I was patient to let him make the mistake of turning in my direction vs forcing the issue.

Great information. Thank you so much for helping me learn how to hunt the mature bucks!

Good info. I've had the best luck with soft contact grunts. One or two every 15 -20 minutes.

That is one thing I was doing right. I never use those toys other than an occasional grunt call. Thanks for the helpful videos. The amount of knowledge one can obtain from your videos is amazing. Keep up the good work!

Great info. I agree with the "when" to use...even then you have to be cautious. I tell the people that come hunt my land, don't call from the box stand...because it's not a 360 view...only call from the open stand/tree stand...and that's after browsing the entire area. Now I just try to make sure I cover my scent in and out....I love this video. Still and quiet is the best advice I got on bucks. I grunt or bleat when I have a 360 degree view....and that's only sometimes. My best hunts have been getting in my stand, getting still and quiet. Last season, I was out specifically to do some doe management. Nothing on me, to attract or whatever, strictly just set up to get this one doe in particular. Like the camera's had shown, here she comes. She turns and gives me that perfect shot, I get on her, safety off....I hear leaves and branches to my right...Huge 11-point, got his eyes on that doe as well. she starts to make her way back across the field. Im in the woods, the buck doesnt cross the field but he walks the edge of the woods to circle, but crosses right in front of me. I drop him. In the woods just still and quiet, no calling, scents or whatever. Good hunting !! Great video! Definitely have a subscriber here....

Last season I called in a beautiful buck running a doe down. Was very exciting and the first time in about 15 years that worked for me. Unfortunately he came in behind me and didn't offer me a shot. But loved that experience.

Solid info for those that haven’t had a lot of seat time hunting MI deer. It takes some restraint to not hunt like they do on TV, but how they hunt on TV does not work. Unless you go to southern Illinois or Iowa and then it’s just easy.

WHS has the best videos. 100%

Thank you for the information, really appreciate it. I'm a young hunter, 3rd year in and all these tips help!

Thanks Jeff: your info has helped me perfect my grunt use. I WAS over doing it

This was greatly needed for me who is a new hunter in PA! I screwed up a lot last couple of years trying to call.

Your grunt advice is perfect for many situations. Had a sales guy training me many years ago. Sidney would say; “You asked the question, so shut up and wait for the answer.” The grunt is the question, so shut up already. 😉

Thanks for the information! I’m relatively new to bow hunting and trying to absorb as much as possible.

Someone needs to bring the acorn cruncher back. Best deer call ever hands down! Nuff said!

Great advice Jeff ! I took your advice last year with hanging a grapevine and creating a mock scrape underneath. Within a day the deer were constantly licking the vine ! I was shocked it occurred as quickly as a day. Thanks and best of luck this season to everyone !

I agree 99.9%. My best hunts have been when I'm just hunting and not trying to call or get a bucks attention. Only once did I do a snort wheez to get a 160+ bucks attention and yes he turned around after he pissed on his hocks and he did come back to see what buck I was, he did hit the scrape 45 yards downhill to show his dominance and he looked uphill and he didn't see another buck and he turned around and walked away the way he came in. Best hunt of my hunting experience. I was in awe and glad I had the experience!! No I didn't take the shot but instead I took photos 🤷🏻‍♀️Great video Jeff.

I had a nice 8 come in chasing a doe up on a ridge. I gave a wheeze and buck stopped looked down near me and headed my way looking for a fight. Shot at 25 yards but he ducked the arrow. The wheezing works for the big boys but anything small will run away knowing their place in the pecking order. I learned to only use it when i see a bigger buck but isnt moving towards my shooting lanes and hopefully the wheeze will bring him in. Its really cool when it works

Thanks for these tips. First time properly hunting since I've had my kids. I missed it so much.

I totally agree with you Jeff.. ever since I quit using everything I’ve seen and harvested older bucks.. just me my bow and maybe a grunt tube.. stay still silent and as scent free as I possibly can. 👍🏻

I have tried all them and the grunt and shaking a tree works good for me

There’s a lot of was to distribute scent from your stand;use a sling shot ,put scent pad on an old arrow,even a frisbee can be used to put scent out around your stand with out leaving your stand

Thank you for this. I've been doing it wrong lol. Thanks for taking the time and explaining it all

I am glad to see this video. Very nice. I have stopped using deer urine and a lot of scents. I do my mock scrape setup by using my own urine. then once the deer start using the scrape and licking vine I leave it to them. He has been my better success than when I was using scents. I also make my own cover scent from using natural foliage including apples and berries in the area. I boil this to make a tea and strain it. I spray this on my clothes and on my stand area. This seems to work very well. Several deer stands right around my stand and walked by, even with the bad wind. I will tell you this story. I was sitting on a side hill with a tree behind my back. I was watching a small open area just down below me that deer have been going through frequently. While sitting I heard something coming down the hill behind me. All I had done was spray myself with my homemade natural cover scent. What I was hearing was 4 deer coming down by me. They ended up standing right beside me. They were so close would be able to touch them by just reaching out. The first big doe was sniffing me and around on the ground, the doe behind her did the dame, They had two young bucks with them both looked to be 2 yrs old. after about I would say 5 or 8 min they continued down the hill. They went right in the valley I was watching. I now stick to just this and has been working very well. I ended up harvesting the first doe that stopped and sniffed me. Thanks again for this great video

We just had any amazing snort/wheeze encounter on the way I to the stand this morning. Sounded like a raging bull. It was awesome, he was doing diagonal movements in the bush, then turned around coming back towards us. Very cool experience. Never saw him once, all taking place in the bush beside us as we walked the edge of a rye field.

Great tips. Agree with mostly everything you mention. Good hunting!

Love your videos. I really tune in in the fall when I'm hunting. My uncle is around your age and has taught me everything you say. But its been years since we've hunted together and it's always good to hear the info that's stood the test of time before I hit the woods

Absolutely awesome video (as all yours generally are). I just sent this link to my friend. The grunt call has been my major go to when I spot a mature buck, they are either going to buy into it and walk in, or look around and see nothing and keep going about their business. Of course the times where they go about their business I always wish I had my decoy there for them to see. That being said, my decoy has spooked more deer than lured them in, in fact it has lured no deer in. I think it would work in those situations where the buck is looking for the buck that makes the grunt and there isn't one there, at least it would up the odds. But I haven't used the decoy this year simply because the odds of it spooking deer are greater than the odds of it pulling one in.

Instant follow when I know them UP locations you speak of.

I absolutely killed my honey hole last year by building a massive enclosed stand in September. Called on October 8th and a nice buck peeled off out of there. I used a grunt tube and fully extended the pipe (deep throaty grunt). He ran away over 1km blowing every 200m. No noise is better. After watching you videos I took on your tips. Already have a 10-point back in the same spot on camera this year.

Thanks I enjoyed the video I really needed to figure out about this and it’s a good thing that RU-vid recommended this for me!

Times that I've witnessed a deer wheeze is when one is running away after I've spooked them... Great information out of all your videos, new subscriber

Taking my 9 yr old son out this yr. Picking videos for him to watch. Funny when you said Readstown for thats home.

6 Days out here in Middle TN! Going to put your tips/advice to work another year. As always Thanks for the videos. 🤙

Extremely valuable information! Thanks a lot!

Great info Jeff the calls suck you in if you're anything close to obsessive-compulsive

I hope to get my first buck this season by following your guidelines. i dont have the best hunting areas but im going to do my best and i really appreciate the tips. You are a very skilled Hunter. Cheers from upstate NY

Thank you! Took me a very long time to figure out that when you use calls you are almost always positioning the deer to come to your down wind side.

Snort wheeze has called in multiple deer for me. Haven’t experienced a wheeze scaring a buck as of right now but im newer to snort wheeze as well. Thanks for the tips!

Thank you for taking the time to explain all your tips I started watching your channel this summer and I have two deer this year so far on trying your strategies looking forward to creating a food plot this year thank you again

Watched a few if your videos and when you mentioned readstown that made me watch a few more 😂 I'm in Viroqua and hunt 10 minutes past readstown

I remember when I didn’t need a big pack to hunt deer. That was when I hunted mostly private land. The last few years I’ve been hauling my elk pack filled with my clothes because I’m walking at least 3/4 a mile back. Then, strapping on sticks and stand to move every 24 hours at least. I enjoy the work! My season is more rewarding and fulfilling these days and I shoot plenty of mature animals. I appreciate the wisdom shared on this channel

Thanks for sharing. Very helpful tips

Man I agree with you 100%. That's so you are spot on. I could put a lot more in there but I think you summed it up pretty well

Love your content I try to watch every thing you put up. I've been following your information for about 2 years now and I love it. Keep up the great work sorry to hear about your father. Don't worry about these stupid comments people have made. I guess they are just lonely and need attention.

Great video. Learned a lot from this

I have brought in numerous big bucks with a grunt call especially in standing corn when I see the rack in there. Also Primos can call will bring in a buck that is looking for a new doe to breed. Most of the time I will let out 3 doe bleets then hit the grunt tube a couple of times next. Works like a champ. All of your five on your chart actually work as long as the hunter knows what time and how to incorporate them at different phases of the rut.

I really have had great luck using Tinks intense sticks.

Great video! Your info makes total sense. Thanks so much.

Great information Jeff! Great timing as here in pa season opens Oct 2.best of luck to ya this year! Thanks again.

I have hunted for several years and am one that likes to experiment with calls and making my own scents.The most positive things I have had great turnouts with are the grunt,decoy at the right time and the bleat.

I agree with this gentleman completely with one exception. Huge believer in scents use. I can't tell you the number I have had bucks respond to " tinks 69" . Shot bucks right in the middle of full lip curl many times. For cover I use skunk around stand after talking to wildlife photographer who has had several published photos and he was a big believer in skunk. As an aside Mississippi state researchers have now found that rattling is effective all season long and in fact slightly more effective in late season. This shocked me. Happy hunting!

Subscribed. Love the content on this channel!I never run out of videos to watch. Just to make sure I’m understanding correctly. As far as timing for these types of attractants. Which would you say are most effective early season? I’ve always been reluctant to use any type of blind calling or decoys early season but thought about experimenting with a decoy and a grunt tube. Here in CT the season opened up on the 15th. Thoughts

Thanks, I really enjoyed this video.

i like to use the Montana style decoys for early bow season when im on a mission to cull does. you get the doe that will come in to challenge and swak

Thank you for the advice Sir!!!

I've used plain doe urine (non estrus) in a scent hanger pretty effectively all season

My favorite scent blocker is the wind

I've hunted high pressure areas for years. A distress call works for does. One half second grunt has brought young bucks in from 300+ yards to within 30 yards of my stand.. Scents and decoys have only had the effect of alert snorts. Making a mock scrape has brought deer to me while not even hunting. Chase grunt have brought in my 2 best bucks.

Very good information helpful confirms some of my thoughts.

I’m other people not knowing what they doing are spoken bucks I like how he picked everything you are told to use

Good morning Jeff and great Info

Great info, thank you!

Thanks again for your strategy Jeff, I been so stupid!

Great video. I agree with almost everything you said. The exception is the scent. I have NEVER had old Indian Buck Lure to spook an animal. The other scents have a place and time and if you use them wrong they WILL spook deer. Back in the 80's skunk scent was a big thing. Problem was a deer knows if a skunk sprays he was alarmed at something. Another problem was if you used too much skunk scent and got an updraft you could get sick. LOL, Don't ask how I know.

I've seen and heard one Snort/Wheeze on stand in MI. 2-3 small bucks were following a Hot Doe and 8 pt about 20 yards away during the pre rut. The dominant 8 pt. didn't want those punks following him and his doe. He turned around, postured and Snort Wheezed.

I’d like to hear your thoughts on the wydenscent and scentfire units, the electronic scent units they have out now hope you do a video on them

THANK YOU FOR SUCH AN AMAZING VIDEO ! YOU PUT OUT THERE EVERYTHING A HUNTER NEEDS , TO KNOW ! I'M SO USED TO HUNTING WITH A 30-06 RIFLE, IN TEXAS ! ALL MY DEERS THAT I WOULD SHOOT WERE AT LEAST 300 TO EVEN 500yrs ! SO NOW THAT I LIVE IN MINNESOTA. IT'S DIFFRENT TO GET ACCUSTOME TO SHOOTING WITH A SHOT GUN ! AND LET ME TELL YA ! IT'S FREEKING COLD, AT 4:30am AND JUST SITTING THERE LIKE STATUE ! AND WAITTING FOR THE BIG ONE TO COME A LONG ! THIS WILL BE MY SECOND YEAR TRYING AGAIN . LAST YEAR I WAS SITTING ON MY CHAIR WAITING FOR IT TO BE 6:30 am SUNRISE ! WELL I LOOKED AT MY WATCH, AND IT WAS 5:45am, AND LOOKED UP AND HEAR COMES A GOOD SIZE DOE, WALKING STRAIGHT TOWARDS ME . I COULD SEE IT AT ABOUT 40yrds. AND I STOOD SO STILL , YOU WOULD'VE THOUGHT I WAS A BIG PEACE OF BOULDER ! IT ACTUALLY WALKED RIGHT UP TO ME, ME NOT MOVING AT ALL, WHEN IT STOPPED INFRONT ME OF ABOUT 5yrs AND I'M NOT LYING ! IT PICKED UP HER HEAD TRYING TO SMELL SOMETHING ! IT STAYED THERE FOR ABOUT A 2 MINUTES, AND THEN TURNED HER BODY SIDE WAYS, AND STARED TO SNIFF AGAIN ! HECK I COULD'VE TAKEN OUT MY RAMBOW KNIFE AND KILLED IT ! 2 OR 3 MINUTES PASSED, AND ALL I WAS MOVING WAS MY EYEBALLS, AND THEN IT TOOK OFF, SLOWLY AND AWAY IT WENT ! AND THAT WAS MY FIRST DAY OF HUNTING WITH A SHOT GUN ! IF IT WOULD'VED BEEN ATLEAST 6:20am I WOULD'VE SHOT IT ! BUT THE LAW STATES THAT IT HAS TO BE 6:30 am !!! LETS SEE IF THAT SON BITCH COME OVER AGAIN ! YOU'LL BE IN MY FREZER THIS TIME ! LOL !! THANK AGAIN FOR YOUR AWESOME ADVISE !!!

I had a snoort wheeze about 10 feet away directed at me in the pitch dark pre-dawn once. Couldn't see anything yet and I was on the ground against a rock with my shotgun. I had to yell out to get him to leave me alone. "Scared" is an understatement.