I would like to see Toys for Bob bring more Post-Naughty Dog content into a Crash Bandicoot 5 game. They could find a way to reintroduce Crunch and Nina since they are popular characters; in fact, Nina was gonna appear in a future update in Crash Team Rumble, but nothing about Crunch. For the Naughty Dog content, Koala Kong should make a return; Tiny as well since he was left out in Crash 4. Fun fact: an unused dialogue in the 100% ending of Crash 4 had Tiny, Pinstripe, Papu Papu, and Koala Kong picketing outside Toys for Bob's doors, but were under arrest for accidentally chaining themselves to the wrong building. This could mean we may get a chance to see these character appear in a sequel
Even the timeline, I remember it was said that PS2 games took place in another dimension but director of Crash 4, Paul Yen, confirmed in a 2021 GDC video that Crash 4 take place before the PS2 games. Makes me wonder if Crash 5 will take place after 4 or after MoM Edit: Or I wonder if they'll remake or reimagine the PS2 games...
@@teejay5160 True, but what I meant is that they take a PS2 game and change it from the ground up to the point where it's a completely different game. It's basically a way tp reintroduce the PS2 characters like Crunch and Nina
Eeehhh I don’t know about that. The way they talked behind the scenes gave an impression of vague-resentment for works they didn’t create. Outside of blink-&-miss easter eggs, The game itself feels like it wants to forget everything after the original trilogy exists and smugly elevate itself as “the Real Deal”, but doesn’t have the wumpas to outright say it. I’ve seen many point this out actually, (particularly since it came out right after nitro-fueled, a celebratory time capsule of the brand’s history). Instead c4 weirdly tried to play it both ways. It’s most likely C4 was intended to be a hard reboot, then Paul just tacked on the timeline bit on twitter once the crowd started expressing issues & gripes with that direction. :v
@@puffythedestroyer8878 Did you not watch the video with all the other ways the post-ND games are included? For still chronologically taking place right after Warped, it's about as much post-ND representation as you could reasonably ask for. Paul Yan stated the timeline thing at GDC 2021, not Twitter. And considering how relatively obscure that facet of info is years later, I'm not sure he was trying to calm down the crowd on that one. The fact of the matter is, that was what was said at the time before the game came out, it has now been rescinded. In terms of throwing theories, it's also entirely possible they just didn't want to outright say "it's a midquel" at the time because they didn't want people going in thinking they already knew how the ending was going to play out, technically even saying "they *may* have happened in alternate universes" even at the time.
It's About Time is the best Crash game since Crash Team Racing. Aside from the remasters/remakes of the ND games, of course. Toys For Bob did really well and I genuinely hope they make Crash 5. They deserve it, and any hate they get is silly and ridiculous.
The way I see the crash games are split into two branch timelines It’s About Time is set after the secret ending to Warped While every game Wrath of Cortex and onwards is after the main ending when uka uka says you forgot the gems
Why would Warped's story basically stop in the middle as both the good guys and bad guys inexplicably stop looking for the Gems until another game happens even though they were very determined to get them? Also, most recent video on my channel.
I liked how Crash on the Run reintroduced post naughty dog stuff like the titans (then again the game took place after Mind over Mutant from what I heard). In fact I wouldn’t mind if Titans returned in a Crash games with a Toys for Bob redesign
Eh, maybe someday, but I'd rather see another new game first, and I wonder if they'd be the ones to do it over at least some members from TT Oxford if possible.
@@yottadrive yeah I don't know if TFB should hypothetically handle it? Just because you could maybe try tearing TT away from LEGO games for five minutes.
Toys 4 Bob's entry was far superior than Vicarious Visions'. At least the one that was a real Crash game rather than an Activision mandated cheap cashgrab.
I think the problem is that Toys for Bob isn't tributing them enough. Like they don't explain classic Tawna's whereabouts or have the characters appear more in the flesh. Or actually explain the lore more. Just a post-Naughty Dog era character appearing in full would suffice. Compare this with the Dream Friends in Kirby Star Allies, and the differences are night and day.
Not really a very apt comparison given the difference those series have narrative and character wise. Crash 4 I think does more than enough without overexplaining and bloating the installment with needless fanservice, feels like as much of a new installment as it does a homage to the series as a whole. Even comparing this to Kirby Star Allies, I'd actually argue it's a much weaker installment in comparison and its fanservice is much more shallow and surface level
@@ink1931 I disagree. While Crash 4 does have to stand on its own merits (and it does), a little of Crunch appearing in the flesh or just dropping namez would suffice. That ways, it could give some fans closure. But Crash 4 tries to not do more than winking and nudging. And while Kirby Star Allies ain't the best game, the sheer return of Adeleine alone placates every fan's problem wirh her absence. If anything, it serves as assurance that Kirby's friends are still there, even if just to patch up a clearly weak foundation. With that, how could you say KSA's fanservice is shallow and surface-level. That and Star Allies doesn't botch fanservice unlike Sonic Forces, Blazblue Cross Tag Battle, or Star Wars Battlefront 2. They let us play as Marx and call it a day.
Classic Tawna ??? Thats something explained in later Games, She Abandoned Crash for Pinstripe. No, I am not Joking, Thats Canon, And Explained way after Crash 3.
@@Teh69thSpartanBut you couldn't switch playing as her like in NST/IAT. It was Warped rules, which also had Coco briefly controllable on foot before riding Pura.
@@teejay5160 Mind Over Mutant had Coco as 'player two'. You could play as her the whole game, but you needed to tag in a second controller. It was the first instance of her being a 'skin' of Crash with all the same abilities and access throughout the game however, unless you count Bash.
If you look in the description the guy credited the source materials. He took two parts of two different longer videos. An uploaded just the part focusing on the topic of the title. It shouldn't be done... but honestly... those two channels are big enough. it's harmless. And as paradox now a 7 subscriber channel gave you the chance to discover two famous channels :D If you liked these clips... you may really enjoy the source videos... even if one of them is enormous ahaah Go check the description
@@drvincemd That's a bit disengenous; it's a mashup of clips from both his and B-Mask's reviews of the game. Did you not notice the different voice throughout half the video?
Great vidéo ! You deserve more subscribers, I hope your channels grows. Oh and, I've played this game a lot now and I've never seen the version of Road to Nowhere at 2:24. Did I miss a cool level ?
@@teejay5160 Bonus stages do not look like that and death routes are not in the game as far as I am aware, will try finding it in game but I'm very curious because I finished the game around 7 or 8 times now and I never ever found it
Won't lie, I'd love to see a collection of post-ND games, something along the lines of Wrath of Cortex, one or two of the GBA games, Twinsanity, and Crash Bash in one package would be a solid seller I think.
Could be a cool compromise between not having to fully recreate the games in place of a Crash 5 but at least giving some slight improvements/fixes here and there, but I do wonder if after remaking those four games if going back to rereleases might annoy some fans?
All things considered I feel like IaT is an S-tier Crash game. The challenge of the N-Sane relics are somatimes absolutely bonkers (rewards hidden offscreen wtf??) but 90% of the time they're actually fair, rewarding and pure skill dependant. I love the new artstyle, and while many people don't like the redesigns, I feel like this cartoony look will also help the game age better (N-sane trilogy visuals aready feel extremely outdated for me ngl while IAT holds up just the same). Things I really liked: - Very fun story. I expected this game to be just a nostalgy rush to childhood but ended up laughing way more than I was ready for. - Great character expansions, from both gameplay and personality perspective - New powers feel fresh and make platforming interesting without altering the core mechanics - Beautyful graphics with great controls. Crash in IAT probably has the best movement so far, and the double jump gives you plenty of room to correct mistakes and cover huge distances. Things I absolutely disliked: - N-verted levels are simply bloat. Some filters burned my eyes. Some were just pain (underwater Rush Hour, that's you) - Triple spin for time trials is extremely clunky. Even after I got the hang of it I felt like speed boots were far superior - They kinda tried to cram in way too many things to appeal for all fans, and I feel like many storylines and characters got done dirty. The N. Trophies bossfight legit feels unfinished. N. Brio is literally the same as he was in 96, same motivation, abilities, skillset, everything. - They massacred my boy N. Gin so bad. He was the funnies evil sidekick in the previous games, and now all his character was just shouting edgy lines about his punkrock show.
honestly i dont think they ignored post crash 3 its just that they implied it was a different time line since thats all 4 was about. i mean i dont know if its a different time line actually but i like to think it was
that transition into a plinkett review was utterly seamless XD ya man at first nsane trilogy was my preference but Crash4 won me over HARD It is underrated in the larger gaming scene imo.
I'd say the characters never looked this good ever before. N-sane got Crash and Cortex right but the rest looked atrocious. Especially Dingodile, Pura and Coco, these 3 literally looked more like reanimated taxidermy than real characters. Crash in the 90s was inspired by classic Looney Tunes cartoons and on the original concepts of him were drawn to resemble those. Obviously it was impossible in the time to perfectly capture that whacky, cartoony look in games, but literally every later adaptation somehow looked over this and Crash 4 in 2020 was the first one to actually go back to the original plans and 100% nail the look of all characters. I'd even say this is what Crash was meant to look like in 96 if not for technical limitations. The only thing I'd criticize is that Cortex looks way too young. But the rest are spot on.
@@alchemy5750 The characters are HEAVILY retooled in Crash 4. N Gin looks 'handsome', Brio looks like a simian, Crash looks buff with huge shoulders, Cortex looks more like his Titans self, Coco looks chibi, etc. Sure they got they the cartoony styling down better than the remakes, but the latter at least tampered less with the core sillouettes of the characters. If TFB wanted to do their own thing, fine, nearly every other developer has done such, but they shouldn't have treated it like a natural follow on of the originals, especially when other games like Crash Nitro Kart did a way better job doing that. That's my issue with Crash 4, it references the series but more in the same way as an adaptation of separate canon does, but TFB want it to be seen as a direct and loyal sequel to what ND done, over any other entry after them in fact.
I don't really see the what's wrong with the characters. Dingodile and Coco looks better than before. Crash still looks as good as before. My only problems might be N Tropy, who really went into a weird direction. And maybe N. Brio, who looks far too unstable/crazy compared to crash2. However I do agree they made some levels way too long, and it makes getting all the gems/relics really unfun on some of the end game levels. Not a big fan of several N verted gimmicks that just hurt the eyes either (at least on switch)
@@bouledeflipper I'm curious why you said N Tropy, who had arguably the least drastic redesign. He looks fairly the same besides a couple cartoony nuances being missing like his long wavy eyebrows, while everyone else has noticable proportion and silouette changes, even Crash with his huge shoulders and lankier body. Not that I'm protesting, just wanna know what was particularly weird about Tropy and not for the others? I agree on the level design however, the length of levels along with the hurting graphical tricks making it hard to trek through them makes each one feel like a slog. The far away camera and occasionally bad depth perception (which is still apparent in the normal levels, N Verted just makes it WORSE) especially makes it feel like the game is actively trying to stop you enjoying yourself rather than making a fun addictive challenge.
@@Joseph_Drew_III Crash 4 can be seen as in-between Warped and Wrath pretty easily. We won't know unless we get a new mainline Crash game, and you know, that probably won't happen rn :v
@@Joseph_Drew_III Not quite. Basically according to a GDC 2021 presentation by Paul Yan, the other games come after Crash 4 in its chronological timeline despite earlier statements. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sXr0Dfb1VhU.html
@@teejay5160 I said "post-ND" instead of just "ND". I'm aware of the Warped follow-up but the preparation for future stories is missing and there are even some pointless things. Twinsanity doesn't have Alt Tawna, so IAT should show other Alt characters. IAT Cortex in the final ending should reveal his plans to create Crunch later, as TWoC is the first 6th gen Crash Bandicoot game (not the first post-ND Crash Bandicoot game tho).
@@yottadrive I meant because it takes place after Warped that some post-ND references are gonna be more limited. And they don't have to set up the other games at the end just to have gaps bridged, this story can just exist in between and those can just exist later.
I love how the game acts as if coco and Tawna are buddies even though we have literally never seen them in the same room together let alone interacting with each other
I really don't get why they even included alt Tawna. She looks and feels out of place and wasn't that memorable of a character to begin with. I kinda get they wanted a girl among the new playable characters cause yk, Crash was always a "for both girls and boys" game, but you literally already had Nina Cortex with the exact same ability as alt Tawna already estabilished long ago (grappling hook), and a way cooler design and story. Nina would've been better, and you can't change my mind about this one.
@@alchemy5750 My guess is that they wanted to appeal to the classic fanbase as much as possible, even though no mention of original tawna is very weird and sad
Alt. Tawna was unnecessary in my opinion. the NST redesign of Tawna was already good enough for her to be adventuring in? They shoulda just used regular Tawna. Or if you want a girl with a different design then Ami and Isabella were right there with almost zero characterization...
@@TroboTicTac The news of them considering a Microsoft/Activision partnership, rumoured to be currently working on Spyro 4 and presumably going straight to Crash 5 afterwards???
@@teejay5160On one hand, I want to believe you that this will happen. On the other hand… you’ve seen what’s happened to Tango, i highly doubt Microsoft either doesn’t meddle with the game, or kicks out TFB or Activision after Spyro 4 or Crash 5 is made if this doesn’t happen though, I’ll take back what I said, but as of right now I don’t trust Microsoft not to pulling something scummy like that
@@noisereaper662 They're odd fans then. I have my small issues (like the boxes) but I love crash to def & this game is pretty awesome for the most part. Small note but Dingo's design is the best it's ever been ⚘️
Alt Tawna clinging to Crash and Coco soley because they remind her of people she knew is very creepy and sociopathic lol. Yet they want this character to be liked so badly. She truly is the captain marvel of Crasg bandicoot.
I think it's more they thought they'd appeal to fans of Tawna not by actually giving her proper spotlight....but by making a completely new character to replace her. It's not like a one off 'Evil Crash' counterpart thing like in Twinsanity, she's blatantly designed to be a main character over the original now. Basically the equivelent of 'You don't need her anymore, we made a BETTER one'. :P
I think the issue with the references is more that TFB's format feels more like a lite adaptation of them, a reference in their own style that is meant to be in place of them than a follow on to them. That would be fine in an actual adaptation that commonly have loads of those little nods, like Toys For Bob's own rendition of Crash, but this was plainly marketed as THE true sequel to the Crash games, the new ongoing direction for Crash that's more loyal than anything else before it. I think that's the same reason the Spyro Reignited redesigns were so contentious. They would have been okay as 'Toys For Bob's Spyro' a personalized take for a spin off like so many others done before, but they were for a REMAKE, a 'return to roots'. They were placing their own heavy overhaul as 1:1 enough to be a representation of the classics over the classics themselves, basically they wanna rewrite history in their own image (ironic given Crash 4's story). Remember that TFB originally stated Crash 4 was a different timeline from those later games which the others placed in what was likely a defunct timeline that would never be used again. They changed that to Crash 4 being a midquel, but it comes off a bit like backstepping when they realised ripping on the post-ND era wasn't cool anymore and replacing it with a 'better' canon that maybe reimagined the better bits once in a while maybe wouldn't go down as well as they thought (Nitro Fuelled just before it being a love letter to the whole franchise probably played a lot into that, fans were starting to accept the franchise warts and all rather than demanding a wiped and 'better' version). And even then if all the games afterwards are following Crash 4 it will remain a midquel format, thus the other games are still defunct. That's actually a rather unpleasant narrative consistency in TFB's games, 'we made a BETTER version'. We made a BETTER mask quad team. We made a BETTER Tawna, Coco and Tropy are a BETTER hero and villain than Crash and Cortex.' Everything not only feels more like a substitute rather than a continuation of stuff before, but it's main substance seems to be that it's SOOOO much better than that old, lame stuff we had to settle with before.
Honestly, idrc about them paying respect to the post ND titles. Most of them have at least one or two good ideas to spare. But for the most part, lack consistency with the spirit and style of the original games because they were trying too hard to evolve Crash with the times. Crash 4 isn't much different in that regard. Sure, it plays like the classics, but... that's literally the only thing it gets right. And even there, it has glaring issues. Not that gameplay isn't the most important, but I was never a fan of Crash purely for the gameplay. So, I'm still waiting for a new game that can actually satisfy me completely.
That was something TFB were also developing (from an early state) alongside Crash 4 and their upcoming Microsoft collab doesn't quite mean that they jumped ship.
I can't believe how much of a mess the levels are... after Skylanders they had such a long history of practice and that annoys me to crazyiness i am also disappointed Tawna doesnt get alternate costumes and Cocos personality stinks
