@@JohnDoe-ns9yo Roy Jones Jr. has said he knew what moving up to heavyweight and moving back down would do to his body, but he viewed making history as more important and that is why he did it.
Lol. People talking. ROY WAS SO SO PASSED IT by this point. It's like how people take pride in beating Antonio barrera past his prime. 😂it's so desperate😂
Joe's run at the end of his career when he beat Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins and then Roy is what defined him as a fighter. So rare that all of a top champion's defining wins come at that stage but Joe did it. On top of that with his dad by his side all the way. There's a reason everyone in the UK loves Calzaghe.
@@xDreMack Joe Calzaghe beat a lot of guys everyone including me said he couldn't beat, but unlike others who can't accept it I did accept that I was wrong when I doubted him. He didn't hide anywhere. he beat people past their primes? nonsense.
@@xDreMackexactly, this dude Jeff doesn't know what he's talking about. Calzaghe wasn't avoided by Roy. Calzaghe spent most of his time in Europe scared to leave the East and fight where most of the popular boxing matches were fought, America. When talking about boxers that are the greatest of all-time of any particular weight class, nobody mentions Joe Calzaghe at all. His name is never brought up. Why? Because he was an overrated undefeated fighter. Had he fought Roy in his prime, Roy would have tore his behind up.
Calzaghe had a fight against Hopkins many years before there fight. Hopkins pulled out due to not enough pay. Even though it was mother than Calzaghe. Calzaghe was avoided
I honestly thought Roy would demolish Calzaghe. I wouldn't call Calzaghe an all time great, despite his record. When you fight a majority of your career in the UK you can't be an all time great. You have to travel and fight the best IN THEIR PRIME. Calazaghe fought all but 3 of his fights in the UK. That's the definition of a protected fighter. I respect Ricky Hatton for coming to America and fighting Mayweather and Pacquiao.
roy was over the hill by then... Thats why I say boxers get out before it's too late. Yall love it so much a scrub gets a win over you to boost their HOF resume. But in reality if they fought at Roy's prime. It's light work!
Joe Calzaghe is the most underrated boxer and one of the greatest. Never cherry picked fights and retires 47-0. I remember a fighter said he didn't punch hard and that he only threw slaps. His response was perfect,.. "well, I slapped my way to 32 KO's" This man averaged 1,000 punches per fight with an extremely high landing percentage.
He ducked Glen Jones, why he never fought him? And he fought those champs after their prime, Stop trying to give this man props for defeating over the hill fighters 🤦🏽♂️
Incredible to hear the commentator say "this might be the last time we see both fighters in the ring" and now looking to see Jones Jnr has fought 19 times since, as recent as this month. Sad to see.
@bs2000two Well we all know he's only doing it because financially he's in a bad way. I don't think its good for anyone's health to be taking punches to the head at 55 years old. Taking punches to the head for 40 years is going to take it's toll.
Yup the were only 2 years apart in age. But like most Jones fans they will search for reason why he lost, or they make it up. Jones was good but like all fighters his day came, and he was too stupid to quit and move on. Remember Jones challenged Calzaghe. Jones had plenty of opportunities to hurt Calzaghe, but he was too slow, and his power was gone. Joe is a punching machine.
Calzaghe is a “showboating specialist?” Please! Roy was the showboat king & he could back it up. Calzaghe has never had the respect he deserved. In this fight, he out-Jonesed Jones. If Calzaghe was American, we’d never hear the end of how great he was! They would be talking about him the way they talk about Ray Leonard or Marciano.
It's funny you say that because I actually wanted my title to be "when Calzaghe out-jonesed jones" but I felt the masses just wouldn't understand it. also I'm a big calzaghe fan. me and my grandad who's welsh may I add, would watch every calzaghe fight together and he'd tell me stories about Tommy Farr, good times!
Good times indeed. The best of times. I may be a little biased, I live in Newbridge Wales where, as I’m sure you know, Calzaghe lives. Everyone round here likes to try & convince anyone who’ll listen that he’s their neighbour 😂.
@@jperez_beast8599 he's faster than Roy and tougher. Be beat the euro guys Roy refuses to fight. He rather fight auxiliary cops at radio City music hall, coming out rapping not taking the opponent seriously. Then he quits vs Joe. Lmao
@@philipnickens8092 you think joe is faster than roy? you must be blind. Roy was the most athletic boxer ive ever seen. why would roy go overseas? why didnt joe come to america? theres nobody joe beat that roy wouldnt have beat easier. joe would get smashed by james toney. he barely beat a 40 year old bernard hopkins. Joe is the most overrated boxer ever.
After Roy came back down from heavyweight he was never the same. He was just 4-3 between Ruiz and this fight. And overall after Ruiz he was just 18-9. Before Ruiz he was 48-1 (with the one lost being a DQ for late punch)
Around this time period boxing was in a good place ,i remember pavlik beating taylor ,hopkins was the underdog and beat pavlik,mayeather was in his prime and so was pacquiao,cotto was doing his thing and calzaghe was doing his thing and retired undefeated.
Both Jones and Hopkins were diminished fighters when they fought Calzaghe. He was a great fighter, but don't try to gauge his greatness by fights he had with two hall-of-famers well past their primes. It disrespects all three.
Jones was completely shot, Hopkins wasn’t. Hopkins Went on to have what many consider the best win of his career literally right after this, and then had a historic run at light heavyweight.
@CarlNipmuc I said many, not most; Trinidad or Pavlik are both considered to be the best by most fans who have followed his career, and choosing his defining win depends on what you value more. He definitely schooled Trinidad more decisively, I’ll give you that, but if you ask me, the Pavlik win is WAY more impressive. Trinidad was a lot smaller and Bhop was in his athletic prime. He demolished a Pavlik after a loss to Calzaghe, winning upset of the year as a 43 YEAR OLD. The most insane thing about Bernard is he basically has two hall of fame careers in one man, as you and I have illustrated here: he has one of the most dominant middleweight runs ever, but then he’s ALSO the oldest champion ever after what he accomplished at light heavyweight. He is unbelievable
Calzaghe is one of the most underrated boxers of all time. He was like a white Sugar Ray Leonard who I personally believe was the Greatest of all pound for pound.
Good morning as much as l love Roy Joe and Collins were always calling him out. Agreed they were both on the slide. Joe less than Roy. However Joe won the fight and let us just respect Joe for what he accomplished.
@@sizzlechestmcmurphy4365the only reason is because you Americans love to downplay the british boxing pedigree and put your own fighters on a pedi stool as is clearly proven by the bias in this video. Joe beat both of em at the end of the day.
It's the same reason Andre Ward isn't mentioned amongst the greats it's because neither of them have big name defeats on their resume. They are both victim of the era they came up in it is what it is.
I like Roy jokes more than Hopkins and calzage. Like to watch. But I don’t like this narrative that jones was too old to fight them because he hadn’t progressed his basic skills when he feel out of his athletic prime, while these guys had while they were the same age or older. But yet jones gets a pass. Odd double standard just jones was more spectacular and bankable
Calaze was retireing after this fight he was just happy to have all the wins no loses and now his last fight ducked nobody,he liked Jones,he didnt do it to embar. Jones.
Calzaghe was talking big ish but Roy was already done. In a prime for prime, Calzaghe gets washed. Dispute Jones being past his prime, he couldn’t knock him out. SMH 🤦🏾♂️ We will not tolerate any Jones disrespect.
Why the hell does Mayweather glorify his undefeated career and act like he the only fighter to retire on top and undefeated where this guy did the same just wanted to mention that, but Roy Jones Jr will always be P4P GOAT
Mayweather wouldn't have retired undefeated if he fought the best during the 80's and 90's and he always seemed to fight boxers past their best or not at their best.
Calzaghe had a style that was very difficult to prepare for: Aggressive fighter with tremendous hand speed and stamina from a southpaw stance. Due to nagging hand injury issues Instead of relying on power he instead went to just rain punches on you and take the decision on points .
Jones was definitely a shell of his former self, but Calzaghe was a bad boy too. Would have be great to see those two go at it a couple of years earlier.
Jones was just spam against Calzhage and would have been whenever they fought as Joe Calzhage would have been nearer his prime too..Joe was a class above ,Undefeated world Champion for over 10 years .brilliant guy .
Let's try to be honest and fair to both men. Both men, as world class fighters, had past their prime. Some fighters age faster than others depending on how many wars that they have been in or how they took care of their body between fights. It was a match between two aging fighters. That night, Joe was the better fighter.
Look Joe Calzhage is arguably the best Supper middle weight of all time. But through no fault of his own his legacy will never be compared to that of Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins or james toney. Idk why but based of the researxh ive done it was Joes team that didnt allow the fights to happen when those boys were in their respective primes. I dont fault Joe for that The only guy i wouldve given Calzaghe a shot to beat in their prime is Hopkins jjst due to the style match up. James Toney too slick and too much power. Roy too much of everything. Speed, Power in both hands, reflexes. Roy In his prime looked like a god amongst men. Sad that we didnt getbthose fughts when we shouldve.
Jones would never have beaten Calzaghe. His punch output was unmatched. Jones did not like applied pressure. In Calzhaghe’s case, an onslaught you can’t get away from.
Ive said it before and ill say it again. Roy is an athlete with some boxing skills and not a boxer who is athletic! Roy beat the breaks off cats more due to his speed and power. Once cats started to match his speed with better boxing skills, he didn't want to fight them. Roy went to bouce around the weight classes looking for bums with belts to fight in order to pad his record.
@@spenser6353 I didnt say anything about giving credit, just prime Jones vs prime Joe, I think he beats Hopkins even in his prime, but would lean Roy in his, jmo...
Joe was great no doubt, and this is just a boxing fans opinion! Joe beat some fantastic fighters and some legends too! But he did not beat the best fighters in their prime!! Although, to be fair Joe seemed to have been in his prime for 15 years! for most it is as short a 3-5 years. I also think he avoided Collin’s for a few years while he was in his prime, Collin’s just got old and retired! Pity. that would have been a war of intellect and physical talent. I don’t believe he would have beaten Roy if both meet in their “prime”….at any weight.
I often ponder what might have been if Roy had retired after his first fight with Tarver. People would be talking about him as if he was born on another planet!
@@BoxingAfterDarkironically guys like that who never really dodged a challenge are also the same guys who don’t know when, or even how, to hang em up. Evander comes to mind. Toney. Barkley. Ali. Duran. The list goes on. What made them formidable is the same stuff that kept them going
So true. and funny enough, most of them guys are my favourite fighters of all time! Sadly I feel most of the time, Money is the main motivator due to bad spending in their prime years!
Jones was pass his prime at this time. It would have have been a great fight before Jones went up to heavyweight and came back down. He was not the same fighter after getting heavyweight belt.
What made roy Jones great was his reflexs and clearly he didnt have those cat like reflexes....some fighter's just dont know when its time to leave and thats why taver knock him out that being said that dude didnt beat the real roy jones him nor taver
@@robertpegg7251 Joe didnt fight anyone while Roy and Hopkins were fighting the best. Then he got dropped and barely beat them after waiting all those years. Whats a USA champion?
Even though they were both humiliated by Joe, you have to give credit to Jones & Hopkins for eventually finding the courage to step up & face the ultimate test.
@@JoeJokes-l8jcalling the guy a tomato can is crazy. Considering he beat RJJ, Hopkins, and Jeff Lacy. Sure RJJ Wasser his beset that RJJ woulda beat other guys in that division still, plus Hopkins‘s prime was like his 40s-50s 😂
Another of Roy's pointless fights post-prime. He was 5 years past his best! 40 years old! Benn, Eubank, Collins, Calzaghe all ducked him in the 90s. RJJ would've destroyed them all.
@@Gustavo__157 keep coping bud roy got his ass whooped by an out of prime joe easily. dude would get manhandled by joe and kod like tarver did to him in their primes
@@sizzlechestmcmurphy4365lol He's Welsh, he fought everywhere...unlike Mayweather,Hopkins & Jones who never left the US in their primes. You silly boy!
Calzhage would have destroyed Jones at any time .Jones was made for Calzhage who was a class above .Joe gave all who faced him a boxing lesson ,Jones was no different. And this with a damaged crumbling hand ..Which is why he retired Undefeated
@armandomorelos2500 I guess I put prime Roy in a special elite category. I think most fans of the sport recognize his talents and style as unique and a once in a lifetime type thing. I don't think you can teach anyone to fight like he did. He was like ichiro was to hitting In baseball
A split decision even though Joe was forced to chase him around the ring for 12 rounds. Hopkins wasn’t interested in engaging in a more open fight, as he knew full well he’d get his ass handed to him if he did - hometown officiating at it worst.
When fighters camp out at 1 weight, fine. And beat anyone who has climbed I. Weight? Fine. No let's see u climb in weight. Not so fun when the rabbit has a gun.
Lol. Roy waa 40 and Bhop was 43. Borh way past their primes when then fought Joe. No body will even put Joe's name in the same sentence with these two fighters. Roy Jones was a one of a kind from.25-33yrs old. The lost to Tarver was the end for Roy.
His record speaks for itself - the only good names in his record are hopkins and jones who were both past their prime, and mikkel kessler. He fought mostly bums
You dont know anything about boxing - to call a over 10years undefeated World ,(Not just USA) Champion a tomato can is indicative of your lack of judgment .Calzhagi humbled Jones as he did every other fighter .If Joe had been a USA fighter he would have been worshipped ..Joe was Welsh (British) and all time great -still undefeated
Roy jones solo sabia pelear dando un golpe sorpresa.pero el problema fue que su oponente tenia el poder de absorber su pegada y roy jone solo era un peledor que se mofaba de sus oponentes porque poseia una gran velocidad y pegada pero muy cobarde para tirar cuando lo castigaban y solo usaba el efecto sorpresa de un solo golpe y calzachi le demostro que para el tenia que ser mas fuerte y calzachi no se como se pronuncia pero el hombre lo desmoralizo y lo humillo a su antojó.
That white boxer was on some kind of drug. He was at 80 to 90% throughout the whole fight. With no work of exhaustion that white boy was on some kind of drug.
