When the Silliest Zelda Game Drops the BIGGEST LORE BOMB EVER 

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How do you use the earbuds if you don't have ears?

holy shit

They inadvertently canonized the tetraforce theory!

Or he could represent the dark Lorule Triforce too!

Please stop. It's too late in the day to have my mind blown like that.

Tetraforce Real 2024

This is reaching almost as much as Nulls claws

Nah i doubt it. If that was the case we wouldn't get monster guts or other body parts they leave behind. Its like how if you kill a deer it just poofs and leaves meat

I mean, Echoes of Wisdom takes place some way down the Downfall timeline. Possibly the only games after it are thr NES games. Before then, Null has, well, not been truly defeated.

​@@klop4228 The Desert Palace/Temple being in ruins and Link's ALttP house being gone, among other things, leads me to believe that it takes place a long while after A Link Between Worlds, so... yeah, the NES games are the only ones that can fit later on. That does make the situation with Lake Hylia pretty funny, though. After ALttP, Venus' Pond of Happiness got torn down and replaced with the House of Gales, only to eventually be restored with a new Great Fairy pond.

But in this game you also get loot from killing echoes incl stuff like monster stones right?, so that doesnt necessarily debunk the idea that enemies in other games could be echoes too right?

It drives me wild how certain key elements across games feel like they fit together but there's never quite enough Canon material to confirm it. But I guess that's why lore theorists get so much from these games.

This seems like a bit of a stretch. If they intended that, lorule probably would have been swallowed by rifts, not just fallen into dark

@@michaelmcfarland5903 yeah I agree. I guess after a certain amount of time due to Lorules condition Null could have easily broken out and swallowed everything but Lorules condition is just a result of the foundation of the world being destroyed.

​@@Doodle1678 Do remember that Lorule is a _parallel dimension_ to Hyrule's dimension, meaning it's possible there's a parallel Null who was already vanquished by incarnations of Ravio and Hilda or there may be no Null whatsoever hence why it didn't took advantage of Lorule's Triforce no longer existing.

@@javiervasquez625 that is a possibility. But to me Lorules history diverges from Hyrule during the imprisoning war when they destroyed the triforce rather than sealing it. Prior to that it’s identical to Hyrule but I guess Null could have broken out sooner in Lorules timeline

Great seeing you here loved your TOTK playthrough.

@@NintendoCapriSun yo what’s up Tim

+2

For the last few games yeah 💀

Void Termina.

My friend and I came up with a similar headcanon that in Wind Waker’s backstory, Din and Farore flooded the world while Nayru was asleep lol

I think it was just Farore that decorated the world with life stuff. Nayru made the natural laws.

😂

It seems to me that The first goddess created the prison. The second created life to act as guards to the prison. The third gave those guards the tools necessary to fight the prisoner should it escape.

@@k9commander that's actually a really interesting take on it. I like it

So i take it you've never played a Kirby game? (with some Pokemon on the side).

@@javiervasquez625 I've played all pokemon game series. But not Kirby. Pokemon is from gamefreak, Nintendo pays to use their games

​@@javiervasquez625 Kirby is technically from Hal, but I get what you mean.

Ever read Venom? Knull is the symbiote god. When universe was new there was nothing except Knull and he was happy… then these Celestials popped into his void, started making stuff, and Knull took it personally and waged war on the Celestials and their creations until eventually he was trapped in a planet of Knull’s own creation (the planet Klyntar which means “cage” in the symbiote language)

@@fangchick93 Doesn't matter guys, they're still franchises specifically made for Nintendo consoles.

Imagine Zelda pulled a Bowser's Inside Story and all three wielders of the triforce all joined forces.

Ganondorf is not stale. BUT the entire entity Ganon is. A lot of people dont differentiate the two because of OOT, where Ganondorf transforms into Ganon as the final boss. It's hard for casuals to draw that distinction.

@@GonKillua85i've been a fan my entire life and i still don't fully "get" the distinction lol

@@GonKillua85 Ok, what even IS the Distinction between Ganon & Ganondorf? as in Narrative-wise what difference does it make that he's in Gerudo or Demon form?

​@@Artista_Frustrado Dorf is scheming and machiavellian, Ganon is (usually) a mindless monster who attacks anything it sees with little signs of intelligence.

No lol, Kirby isn't the only game in existence to have deep lore or have you fight ancient evil abominations.

​@chrange9714 To be fair however, it is a Kirby staple at this point to have some dark matter that wants to destroy the world in almost every game. Another game that has a very similar trope is Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon, where spoilers: You also fight Dark Matter.

Void was totally a Kirby villain lol

yea null felt so kirby

​@@cheesewrap That's not even true, you fight Dark Matter in three games that's it. You fight a clone of it in PR and Void just takes on the look of one in Star Allies.

And Skyward Sword, with Demise having emerged from the ground with armies of monsters and been sealed back in the ground by Hylia.

It seems that Malladus, Demise, Vaati, Dark Link, etc. are all different expressions/forms/abstractions of Null's attempts to break free...

Kinda reminds me how in real world religions classical gods represented civilization if often suppressing or overthrowing ancient gods representing the scary and chaotic natural world.

This is also the prologue of The Wind Waker with Ganondorf literally escaping the Sacred Realm from _beneath the ground._ This rises the question of wether the Sacred Realm itself could be the Void in which Null was sealed away and if the Sacred Realm could also be the place where Demise and Malladus got imprisoned.

​@@javiervasquez625 Would be odd to hide the Prime Energy in a temple inside the void, though? (Remember, in OoT it was in the Temple of Light, in the Sacred Realm.) Also, remember that in aLttP (which takes place before this game, given you see ruins of aLttP locations in EoW), you spend about 70% of the game running around in the Sacred Realm, rescuing maidens trapped in the Sacred Realm etc. to defeat Ganon. I doubt Null would have let anything so concrete survive in the Void for nearly that long (and longer, given Ganon was supposed to have been there a good while _before_ you ever gain access to the Dark World - which, to be completely clear in case you forgot, _is_ the Sacred Realm).

Oh yes!! How long did we have to wait to get a unforseen and cool twist in a new Zelda game

@@MatthiasW97 It's definitely been a long time man! I'm so glad to see it happen again

I think Arlo might have fallen into the trap many of us have, and just been overwhelmed by the major 3D titles. They do tend to suck up the oxygen.

Technically skyward sword is kinda the origin of the evil that inhabits ganondorf, but apart from that, yeah. In fact, for whatever reason, phantom hourglass and spirit tracks were my only exposure to zelda as a kid, so i didnt actually fight gannon for ages.

...Ehhh including Zelda II, Skyward Sword and the Oracle games in that list feels like getting away with a technicality. Those games still use Ganon as a hugely important narrative device, so they 100% count. The Oracle games especially since playing the linked ending is kind of the whole point.

Ganon was the villian of zelda 2. The whole game is about his resurrection being prevented. Demise is technically Ganon before he was reborn as a gerudo

I think it's more that the dynamic between Zelda Link and Ganon is such a main part of the overall Lore of Hyrule that it's very hard to expand or flesh out the world or explore other story threads without it just feeling like a fun side story with no consequences. BotW and TotK as much as I loved them as games got away with retreading that main story twice in a row.

Well, I can't imagine he'd just stand around and wait to be rescued.

Didn't they state he saved a few other kids that got sucked up into the rifts who ALSO lost their voices as a result? Or was that prior to him rescuing zelda? Either way dude definitely was in the fight, just probably elsewhere in hyrule shutting down smaller rifts.

@@darcidious99That was prior to rescuing Zelda

@@darcidious99 That was prior. He was trapped in the Stilled Realm from the first bout against Ganon to nearly the end of the game. But before the game began, he had gone on a full adventure leading to the 20 hearts and full Mysterious Crystal powerups on his weapons.

@@Marandahir Actually, I don't think he did have the full Mysterious Crystal powerups on his kit, I think they were only level 2. Which makes sense, because you can get Level 2 upgrades from the start, but level 3 upgrades come later. But the general point is right - Link definitely has had an adventure to get to the start of the game.

yeah Null simply devoured everything that falls into the void

My theory is that the entire world is made out of echos to begin with.

Well they DO properly rescue people that fall into rifts, it's just objects they make echoes of.

The Still World isn't just a series of pocket dimensions, but rather an entire separate world that is only accessible when Null attacks Hyrule and creates a rift, destroying the barrier between the two worlds. Although when Zelda and Tri release the other tri and seal that rift and restore the barrier all of the living things that fell within are retrieved, the inanimate matter remains suspended in the Still World, and it is probably easier for the tri to just make perfect copies of everything and replace what was swallowed than retrieve every single brick and grain of sand. The echoes that the tri make aren't like the echoes that Zelda creates by channeling Tri's abilities, they are perfect, permanent replicas

And by having an incredible final boss theme

Hell, maybe the reason why the series' continuity is so freaking confusing is because Null keeps busting loose and devouring everything, so the goddesses box him up again and let the Tri re-stock the universe with echoes. Only the Tri don't always remember all the details or grasp their significance, so every game or two we get a new ZeldaVerse with the same signature themes and play elements, but an altered backstory, cast, and/or geography (Tri 1: "Hey, I forget... did the last version of Zora have frog faces or fins?" Tri 2: "I dunno, let's try some of each just to be on the safe side....").

​@@sharondornhoff7563 Nah, i find that way too convoluted and unnecessarily teasing on Nintendo's part if they're attempting to further confuse the fandom with nonsensical lore.

If only they added two sentences with Null's lore we couldve had an explanation to the entire series and its adaptions

What happens when x parasite eats a whole planet?

Bingo!

I've said for many years that Zelda lore seems to a degree to acknowledge that it's a video game, in that many of the ancient magics/powers have digital theming to them, and being like Fi basically being a digital assistant built into the sword.

That would be cool symbolism.

Yet the "chaos" TotK Ganondof strived to achieved was one of _social darwinism_ where those who're strong and powerful dictate the fate of those who're weak and powerless, meanwhile Null sought the destruction of *Reality* itself devoid of existence. Their goals are very different from one another.

​@@javiervasquez625But it kinda makes sense that Ganon would misinterpret Null like this

@@juannaym8488 ...Why...? TotK Ganondorf's motivations were fleshed out by his harsh life in Gerudo Desert, plus he has no idea of who Null is to "misinterpret" a being he's never met.

Definetly not "coincidental" considering its a creation of Nintendo (who also created the Kirby series).

Yes that was implied.

​​@@javiervasquez625 Nintendo didn't create the Kirby series, Hal Lab did.

I absolutely loved the whole botw/totk story by itself. However, it just made things really confusing in the Zelda lore as a whole

Tears of the Kingdom's story has fantastic individual moments and revelations, but at the same time it does have far too many holes to completely overlook. I do wish the imagery and breath taking story moments got a little more credit than what they commonly receive.

completely in character too because they LOVE ancient mythology if the botw duology is anything to go off of LMAO

​@@yggdrasilsaltar They've been loving ancient mythology since like ever back in Ocarina of Time with all them dungeon architecture referencing cultures from across the world.

Yes, the Gerudo have always been based on middle Eastern cultures, Shika obviously Japanese. Hylians on European culture and Western cultures in general.

HAHAHAHA 😂😂

“Jazzy jumps!” To be fair, his narration is so contagious and full of joy🥰

And I’m all for it, that narrator definitely is having a real good time.

Oh my 😳

BAHAHA bro changed his career and I love it

The “man from the desert” schtick is pretty stale at this point, bro, especially after Demise opened up the possibilities to so much more. Both WW’s dorf and TP’s dorf exist as they do because they are literally the same individual as the one from Ocarina of Time, no reincarnation required, so the fact that they gave us a carbon copy paste of that same person but again in totk is pretty damn uninspired and boring. You can have more human incarnations of demise without making the same guy from scratch twice.

@@ellieporter3270 nothing is _forcing_ them to do the same "man from the desert shtick" every time, though. Nobody wants Ganondorf to gain newfound relevance in Zelda just so he can be Link's Bowser and kidnap the princess over and over- Ganondorf HIMSELF has the "possibilities" to be "so much more" if they would just try making a NEW one like they make a new Link and Zelda every time. Just because he's a wasted character _now_ doesn't mean he doesn't have any potential

@@ThePoltergust5000 I do agree actually, hence why I ended on the idea that you can still do human demise incarnations-whether you’d want to call them Ganondorf or something else depends on what story you want to tell. I just am/was fond of the idea of “Ganondorf” being specifically the one guy from OoT, but it really depends on execution, I just think TotK fumbled it bad.

@@ellieporter3270 gotcha, yeah. still holding out someday for a reincarnated-ganondorf-and-link-childhood-friends story... man that could be so good

Demise is theorized to be an avatar of null of some sort ("he and his army of demons broke through a fissure in the earth"). Well and if that is true, it would be natural for Null to have a Ganon-Echo.

😂

It's not. The first time the Triforce was used was in game was in Skyward Sword, which predates the Kingdom of Hyrule. In Echoes of Wisdom, there are a few things that indicate that this game takes place after A Link Between Worlds at least. It's likely called the "Prime Energy" because the Triforce name has been forgotten in this era.

They clearly know about the Triforce already. Link has it on his shield. It could simply be the difference between what the Goddesses call it and what the Hylians call it.

I kinda took it in the opposite direction. That this game takes place so far past any other Zelda game that everyone’s forgotten what the Triforce was called! We see ruins of old Link To The Past dungeons and there’s a wide variety of races living together, so this game can’t take place SUPER early in the timeline, even if Null and the creation of Hyrule still outline the very beginning.

In the Japanese version it’s called something more like ultimate power which is similar to how it’s been described in other games. The prime energy thing is just a weird translation..

Well, there is no Master Sword in this game, either. We don’t REALLY know what predated Hylia raising Skyloft and all, right? Do we really know there was no “Kingdom of Hyrule” before Skyward Sword? Also, we’ve never heard anything about rifts, or children being ‘stolen away’ before this game, where it’s implied that that has been a constant thing ever since Null was sealed. There really could be an argument for this game appearing at, or at least near, the beginning of the timeline!

Yes western narratives are moving away from it more but it doesnt always work as is seen with the MCU. They tend to make the protagonist too complex and basically make him immoral(revenge, justifying bad actions), while Eastern philosphy is more so seeking balance within the complexity of life(acceptance, you can't change everything).

Yeah. I do like that they want them all to connect in some way, but they're really just chapters in a grand adventure to me. Some good, some bad, but all zelda.

Officially, each Ganon is the same one (except possibly Tears of the Kingdom's Ganondorf who just plain doesn't fit into the timeline, and calls Breath of the Wild's Ganon into question). There'd be a lot less concern over how individual games (fail to) fit into the wider canon if Nintendo themselves hadn't insisted that they all fit into an official timeline that's totally existed for years - decades by this point - and what do you mean the Downfall Timeline seems like a clumsy attempt to patch over the cracks with something that doesn't hold up to a second thought?

well, its only a different Link and Zelda. with the exception of the BotW and TotK Ganon, all the others are the Ocarina of Time Ganon being revived or breaking some seal.

The problem to me is the timeline is just more confusing than anything, I think the idea of having them all be "myths/legends" according to how botw/totk timeline views them makes sense since it gives them a chance to hit the reset button on the whole shoehorned timeline idea. Now they can start from scratch and either consider every game/sequel their own tale, or they can really commit to a timeline... Either way though I hope the story quality for 3d zelda improves because good lord totk/botw left a lot to be desired.

@@darcidious99 you don't even need to get into timeline shenanigans to note Ganon being the same one in most of the games. He's only mentioned as a new dude on the scene for ToTK flashbacks and in OoT. Every other game he's some old evil breaking loose or already been around. The games he's unsealed in usually have direct references to the 7 sages of OoT. The timeline shenanigans only come into it to explain how the same bastard dies seemingly for good in Zelda 1, Twilight Princess, and Wind Waker. Those are his one and only death, just his only one in each timeline. Actually after checking. It does seem the Ganon from four swords adventure is a reincarnation. So there are 3 Ganons, with OoT ganon being the villain of 6 games plus being the backdrop threat of Zelda 2.

Here’s the text for those who can’t pause: IS SUDDENLY IN FRONT OF ME. IT MOVES WITH LIGHTNING SPEED, SETTLED ANEW AND LOOKING STRAIGHT INTO MY EYES BEFORE A SINGLE BREATH PASSES MY LIPS. I HALT, FROZEN IN PLACE AS IT REGARDS ME WITH THAT SHIFTING, UNSEEABLE FACE. I CAN SENSE WITHOUT SEEING AN INTENSITY, AND THIS IS MATCHED IN THE CREATURE'S LOW VOICE. IT TELLS ME THAT IT SOUGHT THE TOWER AS WELL. IT ASKS ME IF REACHING THE TOWER IS TRULY WHAT I SEEK. EVEN IN MY FEAR I TAKE A MOMENT TO FEEL INSIDE MYSELF, PROBING THE QUESTION AND FOLLOWING THE PANGS OF MY OWN HEART...AND IT SEEMS THAT EACH TIME I EXPLORE THE IDEA, MY CONVICTION IS STRONGER STILL. I SAY THAT I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE CERTAIN OF ANYTHING IN MY LIFE. I WILL REACH THE TOWER. THE CREATURE SEEMS TO NOD AND TELLS ME TO FOLLOW. I LOOK BACK AT THE SHADOW FROM WHENCE THIS THING SPRUNG, THAT INKY BLACK ABYSS, AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS WHERE IT IS ABOUT TO BRING ME. I VERY NEARLY SCREAM AND BREAK INTO A SPRINT AT THE VERY THOUGHT OF ENTERING SUCH A FATHOMLESS PLACE...BUT THEN THE WORDS OF THE OLD MAN FLOAT GENTLY OVER MY EARS, THE REALM OF SHADOW. THIS CALMS ME, SOMEHOW. THEN I ONLY NOD, KNOWING INTUITIVELY THAT THIS IS ENOUGH. AND SUDDENLY I AM THERE, SURROUNDED BY PURE BLACK, DARKER THAN ANY PLACE ON THE EARTHLY PLANE, INFINITELY DEEPER THAN THE MERE ABSENCE OF LIGHT. THE CREATURE IS BESIDE ME, SOMEHOW STARK AGAINST THE BLACK, LOOKING FORWARD. I FOLLOW ITS GAZE AND BEGIN TO SEE OTHER CREATURES EMERGE AS THOUGH FROM A CLOUD OF SMOKE. AT THE SIGHT OF THE VERY FIRST I MUST STIFLE A SCREAM, AND EACH I LAY EYES UPON IS MORE SHAPELESS AND HORRIFYING THAN THE LAST. MY MIND STRUGGLES TO COMPREHEND WHAT IT IS SEEING. WHEN I AM SURROUNDED BY THESE THINGS THE FIRST CREATURE TURNS TO ME. IT SAYS THAT EVERY BEING IN THIS PLACE SOUGHT THE TOWER. THIS IS WHAT I WILL FIND AT JOURNEY'S END. AND NOW A NEW AND EVEN DEEPER HORROR GRIPS ME. AS I LOOK UPON THESE THINGS, THESE THINGS I CAN SCARCELY CALL CREATURES, I KNOW WITH CERTAINTY THAT ITS WORDS ARE TRUTH. THIS IS INDEED THE FATE THAT AWAITS ME IF | REACH THE TOWER. AND YET EVEN NOW, GAZING UPON THIS VOID, I CANNOT DIVORCE MYSELF FROM THE NEED TO CONTINUE, TO REACH IT AT ALL COSTS. IN THIS MOMENT I HAVE NEVER FELT MORE LOST OR AFRAID. MY VOICE WEAK, I SAY THAT I NEED TO LEAVE. I LOOK TO THE THING BESIDE ME AND I CANNOT SEE A SMILE BUT SOMEHOW I SENSE ONE. IT SAYS THAT IT ALREADY TOLD ME I WOULDN'T BE GOING ANYWHERE. AND SUDDENLY THE THINGS EMERGING FROM THE IMPOSSIBLE DARK ARE MOVING TOWARD ME. I CAN SENSE MALICE AND GLEE POURING FROM THEM LIKE A RIVER. I WISH TO RUN, BUT THERE IS NOWHERE TO RUN. I WISH TO FIGHT BUT CANNOT MOVE. THE THING THAT BROUGHT ME HERE LAUGHS AND LUNGES FORWARD...AND SUDDENLY THERE IS A FLASH OF BLINDING LIGHT, AS BRIGHT AS THE VOID IS DARK, AND I SHIELD MY EYES. WHEN I CAN MANAGE TO PEAK BETWEEN MY FINGERS I SEE THAT A GREAT SPLIT HAS OPENED UP IN THE REALM ITSELF, BLUE SKY AND DAYLIGHT POURING THROUGH, PURE WHITE AT THE EDGES. SOMETHING MOVES THROUGH THE GAP AND SUDDENLY THE THING BESIDE ME HAS SPLIT IN HALF, BOTH SIDES DISINTEGRATING IN WHITE LIGHT LIKE A THIN PAPER BURNED IN A HOT FIRE. IN ITS PLACE IS A FIGURE WITH FAMILIAR BRONZE ARMOR, HOLDING A SPEAR WITH WISPY WHITE SMOKE TRAILING FROM ITS TIP. BEFORE I CAN EVEN REACT K'LENN THROWS A BALL OF WHITE LIGHT TOWARD THE OTHER CREATURES AND IT EXPLODES IN ANOTHER DAZZLING FLASH. HALF OF THEM DISINTEGRATE, THE OTHERS COWERING AND FLEEING. K'LENN GRABS MY HAND AND ALL AT ONCE WE ARE BACK IN THE WORLD OUTSIDE SHADOW. BLUE SKY AND GREEN GRASS STRETCH IN EVERY DIRECTION. IT TAKES ME SEVERAL MINUTES TO REGAIN MY COMPOSURE, BUT K'LENN IS UNPHASED. EVENTUALLY I CATCH MY BREATH AND THANK HER. SO YOU HAVE SEEN IT, SHE SAYS. SEEN WHERE THE JOURNEY ENDS. I NOD. SHE ASKS IF I WILL RETURN TO HER STRONGHOLD. THE ALTERNATIVE, CONTINUING ON THIS QUEST, IS UNSPOKEN. WHAT I AM FEELING IS BEYOND WORDS. AND SOMEHOW, DESPITE WHAT I HAVE JUST SEEN, JUST SURVIVED.... SHAKE MY HEAD. MY QUEST MUST CONTINUE. I DO NOT KNOW WHY. BUT IT MUST. SHE NODS. HER MOUNT STREAKS DOWN FROM THE BLUE SKY AND SHE JUMPS ON AND SOARS OFF WITHOUT ANOTHER WORD. BEFORE THEY HAVE EVEN DISAPPEARED FROM VIEW I TURN TO LOOK AT THE TOWER OFF IN THE DISTANCE. I CAN SEE NO OTHER LANDMARKS. ONLY GRASS, SKY, AND THE TOWER. I TAKE ONE STEP AND THEN

I agree. If Nintendo developed the story, Ganon would've been the villain again. Just like how Bowser's the villain of (almost) every Mario game.

Why not, Demise can also be a rival to Ganondorf. I would like a (3d) game where you can play as Zelda, Link and Ganondorf. Seperately AND simultaneously. But first i rather have a remake of OOT story developed with current technology and maybe with actual dialogue for Link.

Here’s the text: “IS SUDDENLY IN FRONT OF ME. IT MOVES WITH LIGHTNING SPEED, SETTLED ANEW AND LOOKING STRAIGHT INTO MY EYES BEFORE A SINGLE BREATH PASSES MY LIPS. I HALT, FROZEN IN PLACE AS IT REGARDS ME WITH THAT SHIFTING, UNSEEABLE FACE. I CAN SENSE WITHOUT SEEING AN INTENSITY, AND THIS IS MATCHED IN THE CREATURE'S LOW VOICE. IT TELLS ME THAT IT SOUGHT THE TOWER AS WELL. IT ASKS ME IF REACHING THE TOWER IS TRULY WHAT I SEEK. EVEN IN MY FEAR I TAKE A MOMENT TO FEEL INSIDE MYSELF, PROBING THE QUESTION AND FOLLOWING THE PANGS OF MY OWN HEART...AND IT SEEMS THAT EACH TIME I EXPLORE THE IDEA, MY CONVICTION IS STRONGER STILL. I SAY THAT I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE CERTAIN OF ANYTHING IN MY LIFE. I WILL REACH THE TOWER. THE CREATURE SEEMS TO NOD AND TELLS ME TO FOLLOW. I LOOK BACK AT THE SHADOW FROM WHENCE THIS THING SPRUNG, THAT INKY BLACK ABYSS, AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS WHERE IT IS ABOUT TO BRING ME. I VERY NEARLY SCREAM AND BREAK INTO A SPRINT AT THE VERY THOUGHT OF ENTERING SUCH A FATHOMLESS PLACE...BUT THEN THE WORDS OF THE OLD MAN FLOAT GENTLY OVER MY EARS, THE REALM OF SHADOW. THIS CALMS ME, SOMEHOW. THEN I ONLY NOD, KNOWING INTUITIVELY THAT THIS IS ENOUGH. AND SUDDENLY I AM THERE. SURROUNDED BY PURE BLACK, DARKER THAN ANY PLACE ON THE EARTHLY PLANE, INFINITELY DEEPER THAN THE MERE ABSENCE OF LIGHT. THE CREATURE IS BESIDE ME, SOMEHOW STARK AGAINST THE BLACK, LOOKING FORWARD. I FOLLOW ITS GAZE AND BEGIN TO SEE OTHER CREATURES EMERGE AS THOUGH FROM A CLOUD OF SMOKE. AT THE SIGHT OF THE VERY FIRST I MUST STIFLE A SCREAM, AND EACH I LAY EYES UPON IS MORE SHAPELESS AND HORRIFYING THAN THE LAST. MY MIND STRUGGLES TO COMPREHEND WHAT IT IS SEEING. WHEN I AM SURROUNDED BY THESE THINGS THE FIRST CREATURE TURNS TO ME. IT SAYS THAT EVERY BEING IN THIS PLACE SOUGHT THE TOWER. THIS IS WHAT I WILL FIND AT JOURNEY'S END, AND NOW A NEW AND EVEN DEEPER HORROR GRIPS ME. AS I LOOK UPON THESE THINGS, THESE THINGS I CAN SCARCELY CALL CREATURES, I KNOW WITH CERTAINTY THAT ITS WORDS ARE TRUTH. THIS IS INDEED THE FATE THAT AWAITS ME IF I REACH THE TOWER, AND YET EVEN NOW, GAZING UPON THIS VOID, I CANNOT DIVORCE MYSELF FROM THE NEED TO CONTINUE, TO REACH IT AT ALL COSTS. IN THIS MOMENT I HAVE NEVER FELT MORE LOST OR AFRAID. MY VOICE WEAK, I SAY THAT I NEED TO LEAVE. I LOOK TO THE THING BESIDE ME AND I CANNOT SEE A SMILE BUT SOMEHOW I SENSE ONE. IT SAYS THAT IT ALREADY TOLD ME I WOULDN'T BE GOING ANYWHERE. AND SUDDENLY THE THINGS EMERGING FROM THE IMPOSSIBLE DARK ARE MOVING TOWARD ME. I CAN SENSE MALICE AND GLEE POURING FROM THEM LIKE A RIVER. I WISH TO RUN, BUT THERE IS NOWHERE TO RUN. WISH TO FIGHT BUT CANNOT MOVE. THE THING THAT BROUGHT ME HERE LAUGHS AND LUNGES FORWARD...AND SUDDENLY THERE IS A FLASH OF BLINDING LIGHT, AS BRIGHT AS THE VOID IS DARK, AND I SHIELD MY EYES. WHEN I CAN MANAGE TO PEAK BETWEEN MY FINGERS I SEE THAT A GREAT SPLIT HAS OPENED UP IN THE REALM ITSELF, BLUE SKY AND DAYLIGHT POURING THROUGH, PURE WHITE AT THE EDGES. SOMETHING MOVES THROUGH THE GAP AND SUDDENLY THE THING BESIDE ME HAS SPLIT IN HALF, BOTH SIDES DISINTEGRATING IN WHITE LIGHT LIKE A THIN PAPER BURNED IN A HOT FIRE, IN ITS PLACE IS A FIGURE WITH FAMILIAR BRONZE ARMOR, HOLDING A SPEAR WITH WISPY WHITE SMOKE TRAILING FROM ITS TIP. BEFORE I CAN EVEN REACT K'LENN THROWS A BALL OF WHITE LIGHT TOWARD THE OTHER CREATURES AND IT EXPLODES IN ANOTHER DAZZLING FLASH. HALF OF THEM DISINTEGRATE, THE OTHERS COWERING AND FLEEING. K'LENN GRABS MY HAND AND ALL AT ONCE WE ARE BACK IN THE WORLD OUTSIDE SHADOW. BLUE SKY AND GREEN GRASS STRETCH IN EVERY DIRECTION, IT TAKES ME SEVERAL MINUTES TO REGAIN MY COMPOSURE, BUT K'LENN IS UNPHASED, EVENTUALLY | CATCH MY BREATH AND THANK HER. SO YOU HAVE SEEN IT. SHE SAYS. SEEN WHERE THE JOURNEY ENDS. I NOD. SHE ASKS IF I WILL RETURN TO HER STRONGHOLD. THE ALTERNATIVE, CONTINUING ON THIS QUEST, IS UNSPOKEN. WHAT I AM FEELING IS BEYOND WORDS. AND SOMEHOW, DESPITE WHAT I HAVE JUST SEEN, JUST SURVIVED.../ SHAKE MY HEAD. MY QUEST MUST CONTINUE. I DO NOT KNOW WHY, BUT IT MUST. SHE NODS. HER MOUNT STREAKS DOWN FROM THE BLUE SKY AND SHE JUMPS ON AND SOARS OFF WITHOUT ANOTHER WORD. BEFORE THEY HAVE EVEN DISAPPEARED FROM VIEW I TURN TO LOOK AT THE TOWER OFF IN THE DISTANCE. I CAN SEE NO OTHER LANDMARKS, ONLY GRASS, SKY, AND THE TOWER. I TAKE ONE STEP AND THEN” (sorry it’s all uppercase that’s just how my phone copied it)

It also makes sense in universe, names change all the time.

And then they have the nerve to sue palworld.

@@RetroGoosen-ux8tyhilarious 😂

As soon as Arlo said "Null" I was like.... that's Knull. And then they basically do his being contained within Klyntar

@@gameinsane4718 Don't forget the Profound Darkness from the Phantasy Star series... SPOILERS FOR PHANTASY STAR 4 ...the entity of cosmic destruction that was sealed away by its counterpart, The Great Light, after a massive battle, with the Algol solar system that the original series took place in being created as a lock on its prison, which it tries to destroy by sending out tendrils of its consciousness in the form of the Dark Force whenever it weakens every millennium.

Null is a pretty easy name choice for an endless devourer from the primordial void, Dimension 20 has that too

Most lore versed fans believe that's the specific term used by the _Golden Goddesses,_ whereas the mortals of the Zelda world refer to it as the Triforce. It's nothing more than a simple change of terminology between the goddesses and the people they created.

Mind you, Null exists _outside Time and Space,_ meaning it's possible there can only be ONE Null at all times regardless of the existence of split timelines. When the Null from Echoes of Wisdom was destroyed, that prevented it from threathening any other potential timeline.

When did Vaati showed up in the downfall timeline???

Tbh I'm not reading all that

@@rubberwoody Tbh it was for Arlo not for you! ;)

@@NintenSegaPlay Sorry, the fate of the Four Sword did, not Vaati himself. The Four Sword created shadow links at the end of the Palace of the Four Sword bonus dungeon in A Link to the Past & Four Swords. My bad, I misspoke there!

BioWare isn't exactly BioWare after what EA did to them lol

BioWare of 2010, creator of the Mass Effect and Dragon Age trilogies, is long dead.

​@@Novarchareskalso KOTOR. RIP bioware

They've been easing up on that a bit tbf

If you like 2d Zelda you should definitely play it!

@@KGDavis-fi2tq now I *have* to buy it lol

I'd recommend buying it from a game store, preferably used but even new aint bad. Its a good game, but personally I cant see myself replaying it ever again. If you do wanna keep it, there ya go, but if ya dont you can always return it for some credit or something.

@@darcidious99 Yeah support local mom&pops store

Because I have too much time on my hands, it reads: TOWARD THE OTHER CREATURES AND IT EXPLODES IN ANOTHER DAZZLING FLASH. HALF OF THEM DISINTEGRATE, THE OTHERS COWERING AND FLEEING, K'LENN GRABS MY HAND AND ALL AT ONCE WE ARE BACK IN THE WORLD OUTSIDE SHADOW, BLUE SKY AND GREEN GRASS STRETCH IN EVERY DIRECTION, IT TAKES ME SEVERAL MINUTES TO REGAIN MY COMPOSURE, BUT K'LENN IS UNPHASED. EVENTUALLY I CATCH MY BREATH AND THANK HER. SO YOU HAVE SEEN IT, SHE SAYS. SEEN WHERE THE JOURNEY ENDS, I NOD. SHE ASKS IF I WILL RETURN TO HER STRONGHOLD. THE ALTERNATIVE, CONTINUING ON THIS QUEST, IS UNSPOKEN. WHAT I AM FEELING IS BEYOND WORDS. AND SOMEHOW, DESPITE WHAT I HAVE JUST SEEN, JUST SURVIVED...I SHAKE MY HEAD. MY QUEST MUST CONTINUE. I DO NOT KNOW WHY. BUT IT MUST. SHE NODS, HER MOUNT STREAKS DOWN FROM THE BLUE SKY AND SHE JUMPS ON AND SOARS OFF WITHOUT ANOTHER WORD. BEFORE THEY HAVE EVEN DISAPPEARED FROM VIEW I TURN TO LOOK AT THE TOWER OFF IN THE DISTANCE. I CAN SEE NO OTHER LANDMARKS. ONLY GRASS, SKY, AND THE TOWER. I TAKE ONE STEP AND THEN And then it cuts off. No clue what that’s about. 🤷‍♀️

...geez, Arlo's really losing his touch with his sponsor stuff...

You can use the < and > buttons to go frame by frame when it's paused. I don't get what it's a reference to though

@@colindoyle4370 Who said it is a "reference"? Arlo is no stranger to original content in his sponsored bits.

BEFORE A SINGLE BREATH PASSES MY LIPS

Here is the transcription of the text in the image: --- "Is suddenly in front of me. It moves with lightning speed, settled anew and looking straight into my eyes before a single breath passes my lips. I halt, frozen in place as it regards me with that shifting, unseeable face. I can sense without seeing an intensity, and this is matched in the creature’s low voice. It tells me that I sought the tower as well. It asks me if reaching the tower is truly what I seek. Even if my fear I take a moment to feel inside myself, probing the question and following the paths of my own heart… and it seems that each time I explore the idea, my conviction is stronger still. I say that I have never been more certain of anything in my life. I *will* reach the tower. The creature seems to nod and tells me to follow. I look back at the shadow from whence this thing sprung, that inky black abyss, and I know that it is where it is about to bring me. I very nearly scream and break into a sprint at the very thought of entering such a fathomless place… but then the words of the old man float gently over my ears, *The Realm of Shadow.* This place… somehow. Then I only nod, knowing intuitively that this is enough. And suddenly I am there, surrounded by a pure black, darker than any place on the earthly plane, infinitely deeper than the mere absence of light. The creature is beside me, somehow stark against the black, looking forward. I follow its gaze and begin to see other creatures emerge as though from a cloud of smoke. At the sight of the very first I must stifle a scream, and each I lay eyes upon is more shapeless and horrifying than the last. My mind struggles to comprehend what it is seeing. When I am surrounded by these things the first creature turns to me. It says that every being in this place sought the tower. This is what I will find at journey's end. And now a new and deeper horror grips me. As I look upon these things, these things I can scarcely call creatures, I know with certainty that its words are truth. This is indeed the fate that awaits me if I reach the tower. And yet even now, gazing upon this void, I cannot divorce myself from the need to continue, to reach it at all costs. In this moment I have never felt lost or afraid. My voice weak, I say that I need to leave. I look to the thing beside me and I cannot see a smile but somehow I sense one. It says that it already told me I wouldn’t go anywhere. And suddenly the things emerging from the impossible dark are moving toward me. I can sense malice and glee pouring from them like a river. I wish to run, but there is nowhere to run. I wish to fight but cannot move. The thing that brought me here laughs and lunges forward… and then suddenly there is a flash of blinding light, as bright as the void is dark, and I shield my eyes. When I can manage to peak between my fingers I see that a great split has opened up in the realm itself, blue sky and daylight pouring through, pure white at the edges. Something moves through the gap and suddenly the thing beside me has split in half, both sides disintegrating in white light like a thin paper burned in a hot fire. In its place is a figure with familiar bronze armor, holding a spear with wispy white smoke trailing from its tip. Before I can react, K’Lenn throws a ball of white light toward the other creatures and it explodes in another dazzling flash. Half of them disintegrate, the others cowering and fleeing. K’Lenn grabs my hand and all at once we are back in the world outside shadow. Blue sky and green grass stretch in every direction. It takes me several minutes to regain my composure, but K’Lenn is unfazed. Eventually I catch my breath and thank her. So you were right, it seems, show me where the journey ends. I nod. She asks if I will return to her stronghold. The alternative, continuing on this quest, is unspoken. What I am feeling is beyond words. None, despite what I have just seen, just survived… I shake my head. My quest must continue. I do not know why but it must. She nods. Her mount streaks down from the blue sky and she bounds onto it without another word. Before they have even disappeared from view I turn to look at the tower off in the distance. I can see no other landmarks, only grass, sky and the tower. I take one step, and then..."

Is Arlo writing a book or something? Cause I would read what he’s writing (after reading the transcription) Also, he doesn’t do Today’s Recommendation, so he is probably making it (or someone he knows

@@tomhoward4906 So Arlo just threw in a snippet of the novel he's writing...?

Agreed! The Zelda timeline was made to sell copies of the historia and not genuinely create interconnected story

This. It's fun for fans to theorize, but I've never believed the game devs paid much attention to it.

It's actually a pretty easy idea to justify, especially when you consider that so much of what the Zelda community knows about Demise is inaccurate translation information. In the Japanese, it's never actually stated Ganon is the reincarnation of Demise, just that Demise's hatred for the goddess will live on past him. Demon's are called a "tribe" not a "race" and the Demon king is never actually named, just referred to as "The One of the End" or "Bringer of Demise/apocalypse" I personally subscribe to the idea that totk Ganondorf would have been the Demon king from Skyward Sword, if not for Zelda changing history and diverting the timeline.

Cooking? Who f@#$ing cares and stop stealing black, American vernacular. That is not how you use that

The entire ending of EoW reminded me of the Windfish egg because of the theme and colors, and I loved it

@@Glitchyy07 That wasn't a coincidence either...

@@L337M4573RK yeah I know, I just wanted to share how I thought it was cool