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When the watch is better than its specs... 

Bruce Williams
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#seikooversteinhart #seikoturtle
Today I showcase the brightest and loudest dive watch in my collection. This is the JDM limited edited SBDY023 Turtle. It has a soft and fluid sunburst orange dial, a Kanji date wheel and a lot of soul. It is an example of a watch that is powerful in design and presence, but lacking in some of the features or specs. The longer I've been in this hobby, the more I've been able to drop pre-conceived notions of value or 'worth-it' factor. I discover watches like this, and the hobby becomes more enjoyable. Have you found a watch like this? One that is much better than the sum of it's individual components?

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@chrisgravel7157
@chrisgravel7157 2 года назад
Agree 100% Turtle is such a cool Iconic design and the range of options and dials makes their is something for almost any tool watch fan. The Nemo is a bit much for me but I love the batman and latest dark manta.
@mhsvz6735
@mhsvz6735 2 года назад
After watching your first Nemo Turtle video years ago, I purchased my Nemo from Gnomon watches. I enjoy it for many of the reasons you stated and it will always remain in my collection. Thanks for another interesting video.
@lelimitededition4219
@lelimitededition4219 2 года назад
The best turtle ever in this combination, beautiful orange Hermes dial, really beautiful, build like a beast, real head Turner, limited quantity, appreciated by watch lovers and collectors, conversation starter, amazing👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
@scottlalonde2878
@scottlalonde2878 2 года назад
Seiko lineup him looks pretty cool. Thanks for sharing, Bruce
@patrickmilbank4105
@patrickmilbank4105 2 года назад
Great watch I hav the black dial srp 777 on strapcode oyster and love it I hav 5 other Seiko divers it’s something about Seiko that just grabs you great video
@chinwengkeong
@chinwengkeong 2 года назад
Love that orange dial! I feel the same way about my Orient Ray II Orange. Ranks really low on specs vs my other watches. But man it sucks me back in time after time after time. Enjoy it good health!
@marchorne7546
@marchorne7546 2 года назад
Great looking summer watch. I get what you're saying about enjoying this over higher spec'd pieces but I think you can when you have great quality in your collection as you do but if you were a 1 watch guy you'd want the spec's and quality.... even if it is a steinhart 🤫🤣
@mikefortney7879
@mikefortney7879 2 года назад
You do great videos. I am not a Seiko fan but enjoyed this review.
@blueshirtbuddah1665
@blueshirtbuddah1665 2 года назад
Great review Bruce!
@cr8460
@cr8460 2 года назад
Funny how our collecting preferences change. A year or two ago, you were a minimalist and Random Rob was exploding at the seams with watches. Fast forward to now, and your collection has expanded quite a bit and RR is on a one watch diet. Nice to see you bouncing around and enjoying things. :)
@Watchofthenorth
@Watchofthenorth 2 года назад
Love the turtle. Always gets the most wristtime. Its a icon!
@anthonystevens8683
@anthonystevens8683 2 года назад
Some interesting thoughts Bruce, it's always good to hear different opinions on different watches from the community. We all have different tastes and preferences and these change over time (pun intended). I have to agree that sometimes a watch that costs a lot less than a much more expensive watch may get more wrist time. Not just because of the look or how it wears on the wrist but maybe that something else that we may be drawn to for the mood that we are in. In my rotation my most expensive watch quite often gets less wrist time than say one of my G-Shocks but other times it may get many days more. Specs and perceived value are not everything for sure.
@olliefuture
@olliefuture 2 года назад
Really nice video, thanks Great watch aswell, can't believe you don't switch the bracelets.. seiko week point that. Awesome piece 👏
@eugenedickson2557
@eugenedickson2557 2 года назад
I just finished this video and felt compelled to take off my MM200R SPB187 and wear my Nemo SBDY023. Love this watch. I would buy a lime green dialed Turtle as well.
@watchesgadgetsandstuff
@watchesgadgetsandstuff 2 года назад
This is completely true. For me this is the Seiko SRPA87 - there are watches that might have not been expensive but just give you something special as a feeling when worn.
@bojodojo550
@bojodojo550 2 года назад
That ninja turtle is a grail watch and I’m envious every time I see old videos. Rob had to murder one for an SKX mod. Luckily Mimo carries the ninja samurai and I’m in love. Keep up the great work!
@seanthomez5869
@seanthomez5869 2 года назад
Bruce, I do not know how badly you need to hear this, but I like your hair lol. I also love this watch. I am currently eyeing a few. I have been looking for a good orange watch and the matte orange has never done it for me. Great review.
@StephenTomko
@StephenTomko 2 года назад
Agreed. I've been wanting to say the same thing for years. Great hair.
@martinharrison4245
@martinharrison4245 2 года назад
Great colourway. Love seikos, never had a turtle but it looks fab . When I look back at your videos Bruce you got a lot more excited about owning a 051 than you did the hulk or VC. And that's the thing about collecting watches, it's not about the cost, it's about how they make you feel. And seiko have a way of grabbing you, that nobody beats overall. Yes they are charging more now, but so are omega and rolex, if you can get one.
@D-CFI
@D-CFI 2 года назад
Right on Bruce! I wear this one when I feel like…we’ll, I just want to wear a bright orange Seiko🐢
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 2 года назад
Owned a couple of Turtles, A Pepsi and a Batman. Great watches. I had mine on a jubilee, it fits the classic shape better. I saw the blue coral Sumo in the video, can’t believe you sold it, it’s one of the best looking Seiko divers IMHO.
@paulthompson2147
@paulthompson2147 2 года назад
Great video Bruce. Think you nailed it with your opinions on the Turtle. Would love a Nemo one.
@martinkaplan1805
@martinkaplan1805 2 года назад
I get what you’re saying Bruce, and agree this model and colorway has something going for it.
@calicobasin
@calicobasin 2 года назад
Colorful dials seem to draw the eye to them all the time after looking and black dials all the time. Nice review of a nice watch. 🎰
@jeffwenger5610
@jeffwenger5610 2 года назад
I agree the Turtle is amazing, my first run green King Turtle gets alot of wrist time! I switched my stock bracelet to an Uncle Seiko Z199 jubilee bracelet, a game changer. It has a killer taper to a mega slim pressure clasp with a ridiculous amount of micro adjustments. The finish is slightly different but I really recommend it for a great Turtle braclet option.
@lappin6482
@lappin6482 2 года назад
beautiful 👌
@liamboncodin1785
@liamboncodin1785 2 года назад
would love to see this turtle with a black ceramic bezel insert. i hope seiko would release more divers with plain dials and utilitarian vibe like their old ones but with modern tech and specs
@cy4624
@cy4624 2 года назад
Agree with Bruce about Seiko wrist time and overall package over specs. Have so many well known Swiss brands A-Z that cost much more but , something just magical about Seikos that makes others collect dust.
@yz8096
@yz8096 2 года назад
Cool video. I agree with having "out of the ordinary" watches, especially in colorway. I think they did do an Orange Sunburst in the Monster a while back (SBDOC75). What color would I like to see? How 'bout one of these in something similar to the Zelos crimson red? I'd be all over that!
@timelesssneakersandwatches
@timelesssneakersandwatches 2 года назад
Something special about Seiko and the turtles. 😍😍
@hybridstrength5065
@hybridstrength5065 2 года назад
I totally agree. Seiko has a certain magic to it that many microbrands such as Steinhart simply lack.
@markwolfson2023
@markwolfson2023 2 года назад
What you are saying, is the uniqueness and value of a wrist watch does not always go up or down by its price point. Of course, which helps Seiko, they do not do homages of other brands (like the brand you mentioned).
@DeluxeMan12345
@DeluxeMan12345 2 года назад
Nemo makes sense! Its orange and in water! For the rest, you are 500% right. Turtles are simply great. So are mm300. ;)
@hsoohoo001
@hsoohoo001 2 года назад
Love that Orange Turtle. As much as I want to consolidate my collection and flip some of my Seikos, I can't get myself to sell them. My enjoyment with them outweighs the little money you can get for them. I have 3 turtles, a sumo, a monster, a samurai, and a "Baby MM" (SPB079). My favorite is the "Silver Surfer Turtle" (SRPC23K1). It takes real disapline not to allow your Seikos to multiply.
@onewatchatatime3449
@onewatchatatime3449 2 года назад
I’m with you one a line green colour way.
@carlomiguelsy1595
@carlomiguelsy1595 2 года назад
Awesome idea. Do a video of a lost of watches you think fall under this theme!
@carlobighouse5434
@carlobighouse5434 2 года назад
It's nice. How many of us are afraid to spend more than 2-300 on a seiko due to fear of misalignment though. I know I just skipped on and spb143 and went for a sinn instead due to this (and the fact that no retailer wants to take a return for a misaligned bezel/chapter either).
@meowianoverlord4854
@meowianoverlord4854 2 года назад
Unfortunately, even the high end Seiko luxe has misalignment. Not to say other "luxury" brands don't have their issues. But, Seiko is just more constant with their bad QC.
@zimankhan7411
@zimankhan7411 2 года назад
I have a skx and a padi turtle and they are both spot on 12
@meowianoverlord4854
@meowianoverlord4854 2 года назад
@@zimankhan7411 Lucky you. What about the 6? Are they aligned?
@evh4611
@evh4611 2 года назад
I adore my Seiko SPB143
@brianmsahin
@brianmsahin 2 года назад
Totally agree!! That watch is a stunner. I would wear it ahead of most of my other watches. Have to say, Seiko should be a bit more courageous as regards timekeeping. I've never had a Seiko watch, or a Seiko movement in another watch, running at more than +9 spd. Mostly they're at +4 to +7 spd.. Btw As for dial colour I got a yellow Steeldive SD1975 tuna homage, absolutely stunning......aI totally agree that there should be more bright colours available, particularly for those bright summer months!
@andrewd7586
@andrewd7586 2 года назад
I have a good number of Seiko watches & I also have a Steinhart Ocean One. I’ll keep my Steinhart over buying this Seiko. 👍🏼
@watchmewatch9
@watchmewatch9 2 года назад
Thanks for your frankness Bruce. AND keep rocking that faux hawk! NEWS Update. Because of this video I just purchased one...coming from Japan. It will arrive early October. Can't wait!
@Hoppetakeyama
@Hoppetakeyama 2 года назад
There is a pink dial/bezel Seiko5 Sports limited edition here in Thailand. Seiko collabs with Thai street artist named Alex Face.
@doppelwrist4658
@doppelwrist4658 2 года назад
You should definitely do a video with a straight fringe. It would blow people’s minds!
@alankwok2826
@alankwok2826 2 года назад
Bruce, could you review a Seiko LX diver. :)
@M3LTUP
@M3LTUP 2 года назад
I like orange dial watches. I own a few of them. Not sure what it is about orange. Good video. Thanks.
@CtFshd1812
@CtFshd1812 2 года назад
sometimes the beauty of a watch lies in the imperfections
@samuelkim2611
@samuelkim2611 2 года назад
Bruce, would you let me know where I can get orange dial diver watch you presented ? Thank you so much !!!
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 2 года назад
Google is your friend.
@WINDINGCROWNS
@WINDINGCROWNS 2 года назад
I just bought the OEM blue strap for this watch for my PADI turtle. Prefer blue OEM rubber on my Padi diver. I am digging this Nemo.
@Brajin1
@Brajin1 2 года назад
I agree. I try have to have a solid week of Seiko’s once a month. I lucked out that my turtle, sumo, Willard, and snow flake baby tuna all line up hahahaha
@michaeledwardlenzi
@michaeledwardlenzi 2 года назад
The Turtle is my favorite Seiko. The SRP 777 could be my one watch collection.
@devongallant6023
@devongallant6023 2 года назад
Somebody’s having a Seiko phase.
@WatchWitt
@WatchWitt 2 года назад
The orange sunburst dial is stunning. I think the darker chapter ring is ok, but was a little thrown off that the 20 min sweep on the bezel was a THIRD orange color. It does seem to work if you don’t focus on it, though. Weird.
@charntechakraisri6302
@charntechakraisri6302 2 года назад
Seiko did a pink bezel and pink markers + lume on a collaboration between seiko 5 model and alex face.
@NicholasSadlier
@NicholasSadlier 2 года назад
Loving that orange! I do hate the nicknames given to the main Seiko divers - they do not endear me to the brand lol. (I'm OK with Nemo as I had a beautiful black cat by that name lol)
@time4passions612
@time4passions612 2 года назад
you should really check out the new seiko tortoise! i just swapped my save the ocean turtle 1st gen for the green land tortoise and I dont regret it. the turtle always felt too big for my 6.5 inch wrist and this new land tortoise just fits me right... also i think the tortoise is now seikos best value proposition for under 500: you get 200m screw down crown, sapphire crystal, applied indeces (yes not stamped through the dial!), good blue lumebrite, good alignment (finally!) and really nice finishing on hands and the applied logo. you really need to review this lttle value beast ;)
@craigwoolbert2443
@craigwoolbert2443 2 года назад
Now it's going to be my watch- LOL!!!!!
@stevefox8605
@stevefox8605 2 года назад
Had a Turtle years ago and gifted it to a friend, miss it now even though I have an Aquis... So which would be my best pick - King Turtle, MM200 or Willard? Cheers mate 👍🏻
@tydish
@tydish 2 года назад
I think the regular turtles available are the best to be honest. Willard is really an overpriced turtle. The king ones are pricey for just sapphire and ceramic. And all those kings come with the candy bar cyclops, which are a total turn off to me. They just intrupt the view of the dial. I've really grown to hate them on most watches.
@stevefox8605
@stevefox8605 2 года назад
@@tydish yeah, not a fan of the cyclops, but I am old & eyes aren't as good as they used to be...do love the Willard style, not too fussed about the price - more concerned that if I step back down a tier I may notice the lack of quality & end up not wearing it. Thank you for your advice, much appreciated mate 👍🏻
@tydish
@tydish 2 года назад
@@stevefox8605 if money's not a issue then yes the Willard looks really good. I have a Pepsi turtle with a upgraded oyster band from strap code, which really elevates the look of the watch.
@michaeldefillipo6833
@michaeldefillipo6833 2 года назад
Great review , totally agree with the wrist time, happens to me with my Seiko 7002- 7009 , no sapphire , no ceramic, but a lot of character and a neat patina on the lume. Keep up the gold work with your entertaining and educational reviews. Keep safe take care.
@gregundead3642
@gregundead3642 2 года назад
Great subjective:)
@NorthSea0il
@NorthSea0il 2 года назад
This watch should be nicknamed the "Michelangelo" or "Mikey" for short. As in the Ninja Turtles... Mikey's the one that wears the orange eye mask.
@weldmishref
@weldmishref 2 года назад
If those areas are to improve then it will be atleast $1000 - SLA's or the LX line are top notch but I like this turtle being just like that... its a beater divers with beautiful sunburst! I would wear this more than any of my expensive models. Now I have a question: I am about 2 watches which I can't decide between them (now this is funny) forget about the price difference ok... This JDM turtle or the SLA057J1? hey I'm a deep Seiko fan so yeah I'm confused between the two. Thanks in advance.
@fatalfred
@fatalfred 2 года назад
I love my Seikos and gotten used to all their "issues" such as the misalignment, and movement inaccuracies, as you mentioned. I thought I would get a "better" watch and picked up a Tudor BB58 and what do you know.... I get one with on a misaligned bezel AND and misaligned 6'oclock index! I take it back to Rolex Service Center and they said the same thing you mentioned. "Its within spec...." Talk about bad luck!
@pablopopovich1762
@pablopopovich1762 2 года назад
So what did you do? Keep it? Sell it? Pay for repair?
@fatalfred
@fatalfred 2 года назад
@@pablopopovich1762 Good Question. Its literally just a month since I bought it, and it took like 3 years to acquire, believe it or not....so I want to spend more time with it. W So, the guy suggested I wait for the next service which he said will be between 5-10 years to replace the dial and that way the labour cost will be included with a full overhaul not just a dial swap....Anyway, I just got it back after a week so I want to try and get more wrist time and hope I can enjoy it despite its flaws.
@pablopopovich1762
@pablopopovich1762 2 года назад
That’s a good plan. Was it a 3 year wait or 3 years to save? It would take me that long to save the money for that watch.
@peteduran2545
@peteduran2545 2 года назад
I agree with you, the magnifier needs to go. Great color on the dial.
@JP-lf6zl
@JP-lf6zl 2 года назад
Bruce your hair is fine, no worries.
@homer5742
@homer5742 2 года назад
💚
@CWJY68
@CWJY68 2 года назад
I agree with you bruce. I rather seiko turtle than a steinhart or any homages.
@samayoa95
@samayoa95 2 года назад
I thought it was named after Captain Nemo from the books Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Seas & The Mysterious Island?
@luiscastro5456
@luiscastro5456 2 года назад
Why is this color of Prospex more expensive than the other models?
@dingodave3966
@dingodave3966 2 года назад
I’m still here.. lol
@iangraham705
@iangraham705 2 года назад
Some watches just work…..I’ve got that silver/blue 5kx you have and have a similar view on it. Just keep wearing it…
@WCC7
@WCC7 2 года назад
ceramic bezels are soulless and sapphire and screw links are overrated. great video bruce!
@vitrymaxime09
@vitrymaxime09 2 года назад
Maybe the disney caracter and this watch are named after captn nemo, a Jules Verne caracter
@jroobz
@jroobz 2 года назад
This watch looks like IRN BRU to me 🤔
@DougE.phresh
@DougE.phresh 2 года назад
Specs are great and all, but for me to love a watch it needs to have character, for better or worse
@cy4624
@cy4624 2 года назад
1000%. When I started collecting, I used to buy on specs then realized they collected dust in the drawer. I get far more value from the package that just make you sing, irregardless of the specs.
@DougE.phresh
@DougE.phresh 2 года назад
@@cy4624 exactly!
@Milofchg
@Milofchg 2 года назад
It's called a Nemo Dial.... still a Turtle
@asiantimepieces
@asiantimepieces 2 года назад
I would love that watch if it had real markers instead of stickers. I just can’t.
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 2 года назад
Stickers?
@asiantimepieces
@asiantimepieces 2 года назад
@@e28forever30 Most of affordable seiko divers have markers that looks like stickers. It cheapens the look of the watch even they are nice otherwise.
@j8sdx
@j8sdx 2 года назад
Only the JDM kanji model is limited to 500, this does not include the others that were released in rest of asia. Same situation for example with the black ninja turtle
@Ax07605
@Ax07605 2 года назад
This thing should be named the Michelangelo or the Mikey from teenage mutant ninja turtles. Ninjas Japan, turtle turtles, orange cause that's Mikey's mask color come on watch fam.
@chri82s
@chri82s 2 года назад
€541,67 retail Japan price. Going upwards of €700 retail internationally. No way freaking way for a 4R36.
@squale9291
@squale9291 2 года назад
Totally agree, at that price point you almost enter the Squale 1521/Onda or Doxa Sub 200 territory. I love Seikos and I have 4 of them but the situation is starting to become a little bit unacceptable as far as I'm concerned
@chri82s
@chri82s 2 года назад
@@squale9291 It's not Seiko asking these prices. It's the companies 'reselling' this Japanese watches.
@squale9291
@squale9291 2 года назад
@@chri82s Of course, I was speaking about the general market. Furthermore, as far as I'm concerned, I would never spend 550 euros on a fully priced seiko turtle or samurai anyways
@theenavybluemonster
@theenavybluemonster 2 года назад
I really like this watch but it’s Donkey colors (Denver Broncos). I’m a Chiefs fan. I dig limited editions. Also, I’d never buy a steinhart or a San Martin or a Islander or etc. Original designs have a price and should be respected.
@BoboBloxham
@BoboBloxham 2 года назад
In my opinion, most watch guys have terrible opinions 😂 I said it before, at least you have hands on experience with the things upon which you share your opinion.
@alexlai2186
@alexlai2186 2 года назад
Too many great watches, too less wrist time
@ocb05
@ocb05 2 года назад
It is real authentic Seiko alright. Misalignment even in JDM.
@wsp4me23
@wsp4me23 2 года назад
100% 7 days a week and twice on Sunday would I take my nemo over a Steinhart. Not even a discussion. And my Squale Heritage for that matter.
@craigwoolbert2443
@craigwoolbert2443 2 года назад
The Turtle will probably my very first Seiko. Over a Steinhart- God lord yes! I must have a watch with a soul.
@liambyrne3488
@liambyrne3488 2 года назад
The seiko movement tolerances are greatly exaggerated. Seiko tend to err on the generously humble side of specifications, it's a cultural thing. Not to say that you might be very unlucky and pick up a dud once in a while, but in my experience most 4r35/36 movements fluctuate around the 10 - 15 seconds fast at worst.
@cy4624
@cy4624 2 года назад
Yeah, most I have ran under 5 S/D, many ran 0-1. Had 1 or 2 duds out of over 30
@joed3613
@joed3613 2 года назад
They have decades of experience making watches and they still can't get alignment right. Why. Is. That?
@michaelriera6277
@michaelriera6277 2 года назад
Agree with Seiko you pay for original design not necessarily specs. If you want specs get an Orient or Steinhart both offering very derivative boring designs. Disagree on Seiko having poor Quality Control. Based on the price point they have determined an acceptable tolerance with their specs. You may not like the acceptable variation but that has nothing to do with their QC.
@TheSexyoyster
@TheSexyoyster 2 года назад
I'm sorry but I would buy Heimdallr over Seiko. Seiko watches nowadays are way overpriced and quality control is also bad. And one more thing, I would never want to take my Seamaster 300M off my wrist for any other watches that I own including my Rolex Datejust Tuxedo.
@Davitamon76
@Davitamon76 2 года назад
The Nemo is in my opinion thé worst in the whole of the Turtle range. By far!. I dreamed/hoped for a orange version and even played around in photoshop , made some versions and even e-mailed Seiko. When I saw what they did with it.... I was sooo dissapointed. I just think it's all wrong.The Turtle is my nr.1 pick when it comes to Seiko divers and what the brand represent to me. Hell, it's proberbly my favorite diver in general. full stop. I'm not saying it's the best. It's not, but I connect to it more than any other watch.But the Nemo.....🤢🤮
@liambyrne3488
@liambyrne3488 2 года назад
The seiko movement tolerances are greatly exaggerated. Seiko tend to err on the generously humble side of specifications, it's a cultural thing. Not to say that you might be very unlucky and pick up a dud once in a while, but in my experience most 4r35/36 movements fluctuate around the 10 - 15 seconds fast at worst.
@BoboBloxham
@BoboBloxham 2 года назад
I think they've set the tolerances in making their movements such that manufacturing couldn't be any cheaper. Giving it a wide berth in stated accuracy isn't an act of Japanese modesty, is a carefully calculated strategy to cut their costs and let their profits run.
@cy4624
@cy4624 2 года назад
@@BoboBloxham when you consider they charge less for a completely inhouse manufactured watch vs just a buckle from the big brands, their profit margins are not that high.
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