When World Views Collide 

I'm turning 60 this year. I spent the last 10 years reading the Bible over and over and over again searching for the truth. The lies fell to the wayside as the truth became more and more clear. Man invented God... not the other way around. The bible is one very messed up collection of confusion that has evolved into what it is today. I love how you describe truth. It's not something that a religious person can grasp because they actually believe that should they question the bible, they'll burn in hell for eternity. After nearly 60 years of religious indoctrination since birth. I am truly free! Free from the lies, free from making others rich from my tithes, free from trying to figure out how to get to heaven and free from the fear of hell. Hello Science! I have so much to learn and I can't get enough truth! I need to live to at least 100 to catch up! Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos. You are a REAL blessing. ❤

Recently my dad tried to make me pray to God, when i revealed to him that i don't believe in God, he became ashamed of me and refuses to talk to me. You have helped me realize that im not crazy for wanting to simply belive in the truth and evidence, thank you aron

I find that the dumbest are often the boldest in conversations.

As Aron goes gray, he is getting that Gandalf look. The wise wizard. It suits him.

Imagine someone calling you "unreasonable" while their entire perspective is based on believing every word in the Bible without any rational reasoning whatsoever.

“Believers define truth as whatever lies they want to believe, and define lies as whatever truths they want to reject.” Aron Ra - Awesome!!!!

I read the bible, cover to cover, when I was 9-10 ish. That’s the main reason I’m an atheist. Contrary to the claim that no-one can read the bible and not believe, I would claim the opposite. If you actually read all of it, it’s obviously both nonsense and horrifying.

I've heard intellectual honesty defined as "the willingness to accept unpleasant truths and reject comforting lies". I think that's something that is sorely lacking, not just in the devoutly religious but in the general population.

When you have facts you do not need faith, and when you have faith you don't care about facts.

This is typical of religious people who say what they think is true and run away when the narrative goes against them. Enjoy your trip my friend and keep up the fight against ignorance.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire

If it were real, faith wouldn't be necessary.

I'd like to comment about ignorance. My dad told me ignorance is nothing to be ashamed of because by its very definition it is temporary and fixable. We're all ignorant about something at some point in time or another. Not fixing one's own ignorance is the real problem and the word stupid is perfect for describing that state, hence, why I prefer not to use the word ignorant as a pejorative. Just my 2¢.

I know who you’re talking about Aron, I think it’s very respectful of you not to name them. Great video.👍🏾

It's scary to grasp the level of dishonesty believers must have to remain as they are.

I'm only now figuring these things out. At 65, it's hard to not feel that I've wasted my life.

Aron, your work helped my wife and I get out of the cult of religion. I am so grateful that you put in so much work in this and in showing how reality really is. My wife and I were both raised as Christians. I later morphed into Judaism and she actually went to Bob Jones university and was working there when we met. Since we were of different faith, we wanted to investigate honestly into our own, each other’s, and opposing beliefs. People like you and Paulogia helped us see all of it for what it really is and I think it really strengthened our relationship with each other in the end. Thank you.

You are the smartest most articulate person I've ever known of. Thank you. An avowed atheist since my early 20's, I'm 69 now. If there were a god, I'd expect him to make a public appearance, rather than condemn Muslims and non believers to hell.

How you have the patience to continuously talk with people like that is amazing to me. At some point I gotta get away for my own sanity! lol

They probably called you a liar because that's a big thing in religious dogma, especially Christianity. I had to learn about the "lies from the enemy" while growing up, both through general scripture at school and through Mormon stuff at the church my mum's a member of.

Aron, I read this AGES ago, and it's one of the sad truths about what you're doing: _It is impossible to debate a person who will not handicap themselves with a knowledge of the facts._ -- Anon.

I don't know how you manage to deal with those kind of people on daily basis...

He Speaks the 'True True'

I was born and raised in the Bible Belt many years ago. I was brought up in the church and remained in for life. I had questions when I entered adulthood but never really thought critically. I can see that now. I pushed doubts about science and faith away. But I can’t do that anymore and am reading and listening now, looking at my doubts and what science says. Now I’m interested in facts. Thank you for helping me on my journey.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates

Fundamentalist Christians project more than an IMAX movie theatre.

As a South Korean with very traditional family -- I grew up with "forced obedience." (One of those "do as you're told" type of bs) Even with that upbringing -- there's no way I'll willingly "obey" some nonexistent deity or any churches, etc.... I've tried religion... it just didn't work out. 🤷🏻‍♀️💯 Plus -- I can't deny facts & reality... that's the bottom line. 💯

Is it strange that the thought that the chemicals that make me (iron, carbon, magnesium, etc) will continue on after I'm gone is comforting to me? I know when I'm gone, I'm done. But it's like those parts of me are eternal, especially at a molecular level. We are made of Star Dust, and to Star Dust we return.

Talking about this perspective is so true and real. I was secular public schooled. Yet my critical thinking skills were maybe only 2 out of 10. I had not even heard of the critical thinking checkpoints i found online later in life. You are des ribing us!

I have a good test you can use, have them take thier bible and a highlighter. ask them to read through the bible and highlight anything that if removed would make the book better. if they can't find anything you know they are a monster, if they do the book has lost it's value as being from a god.

The “no response”, is an answer. Without saying anything, their silence says “Oh shit! I might actually be wrong about this! Better not admit it.”

I keep oscillating from belief to non-belief and somehow this time, I've managed to stick it out on the winning side. Your videos keep me sane, as you have obviously thought out your arguments and make stellar points. Thank you!

I'd rather have questions that can't be answered, then answers that can't be questioned. Feynman

Say it loud! I was about 15 years old when I really started to think about what I was taught in the Mennonite Church, of which I was a confirmed member. For years later I enlisted in the Army and discovered a totally foreign world. I came to the position of requiring evidence for my opinions.

I think that religious people seriously believe that if we discard their stories then they can discard our evidence. They do not realize that we have facts on our side. They want so badly for this to be an even playing field of one religion against another because they cannot grapple with the fact that we can show them to be wrong.

Great job, I enjoy your work.

I wouldn't call my atheism a "world view", merely a lack of belief in a deity. Believers like to call it a world view, but I reject that.

"Faith is believing in something that you know ain't so." Mark Twain

You described the essential difference between science and religion, and it is one reason I shun religion .

I find you as a very patient man in order to deal with the type of folk you do on a regular basis, I do not agree with all of your positions, but I do know you have a highly intelligent, intricate mind. The world needs more people like you, people who have the guts to stand up for education and reason. Most believers I think unfortunately have no idea that their position is as dishonest as it is in reality due to indoctrination, and the widespread misinformation mainstream religion delivers to naïve congregations. Because pastors' paychecks depend on dishonesty, it may be a while before reason prevails to willful ignorance.

So true, so true. And yet it seems I'm to recognize the suuperiorty of their views, out of hand. . . As if they are rational and I've lost my senses.

A common thing on Facebook from apologists is for them to pretend they know what is going on in someone's head when they never even met the person. I have a hard time imagining something more dishonest.

The street preacher fan didn't understand why people laugh at the carnival barker, going on to request that I watch his "movie" and tell him one lie. RU-vid was being RU-vid that day and deleted some of my responses for no apparent reason, as it does, but I pointed him to a long autopsy of the "film" from a decade ago, and told him that if he merely does a search ion this site he'll find hours and hours and hours more.

I'm Irish, and I agreed with everything you were saying until the "no such thing as Leprechauns" line. 😮 let's just pretend you didn't say that. lol, 🤣

AronRa- keep up the great work!! I always come back to you for ammunition!! Thanks Brother.

I need these 15 minute sermons about once or twice a week.

Discussing things with people, who believe that "nuh-uh" is an argument, is playing chess with a pigeon.

Your videos help me relax Aron. I luckily have parents who claim to believe in god and do go to church regularly, do not treat me or my brothers (all atheists) differently just because we are atheists. I know not everyone is as lucky. Still, your videos are educational, humorous (in the positive dry way), and respectful. Thank you my friend

Many people would rather believe a pretty lie than accept the brutal truth.

Aron, love your vids brother. In Canada we seem not to talk about religion at all. Even the abortion debate is on mute. The JWs are even quiet! Looking forward to next nock on the door, because of your inspiration. My biggest beef would be the treatment of women as 2nd class to men. Keep it up! Darren, Halifax, NS

It is a poignantly curious thing that the word "lie" is in the middle of the word beLIEve!

Anytime a "newbie" in the creationist/religious debate comes on board, just grab the "Creationist Bingo Card" and start checking them off. They'll go through every single one of them.

Brian: "Why aren't women allowed to go to stonings?" Brian's Mum (on her way to a stoning, stopping to purchase a false beard): "It is written, that's why." Monty Python hits the nail on the head. When only very few people were literate, they were perceived as very clever and wise, so what they wrote was easily viewed as some sort of revelation of truth. They must be intermediaries with some mysterious higher power. "It is written" no longer has that mystique. It is written that Daz washes whitest, not to mention endless crap on ye olde internette. So what's the reasoning now? Why is a tiny fraction of what is written deemed to be "revelation", but the rest of it not?

I just want to say thank you for all you do and for your help on my path.

There being no god is a conclusion I have come to finding that there is no evidence for a god.

Someone told me to read "Reasonable Faith" by William Craig... That turned out to be the most unreasonable book I'd ever read.

I know people that believe god started evolution so humans would evolve to worship him. 🤦‍♂

Great sermon!! Amun

it was a long and painful path for me. i grew up in the churches

Thank you Mr. Aron Ra. What you do is impacting many and the debates you put yourself through just for us is awesome.

Belief promises you everything and gives you nothing, disbelief promises nothing and gives you everything.

Hadiths come from Imams = echo chambers of the past. Christianity has those, too... priests in a box that expunges you from your neglect, carelessness or... even evil. It's atrocious.

Every point you made is just what I recently experienced when debating a believer.

Aron, I can't thank you enough for breaking the shackles of religion and setting me free from lies and lies. Now at 66, I'm seeing from true perspective rather than allow religious charlatans to be at the driving seat. Great thans for your videos.

I left during high school, made the mistake of asking questions. I had to navigate the racial angle being black, familial strife, intra community shaming, etc. I came upon Sam Harris, Dawkins, Krauss (before his incident), Hitchens and yourself. I thank you for helping me stay strong 💪🏿. Keep up the great work

An engineering degree stopped my faith. The best thing I’ve ever done!

Gawd what a dee eye cee kay. Gettin' flashbacks to when I had to deal with those bullies. Hey Aron, I do truly believe that a person's measure is proved by their enemies. You sure are proving your true worth. Keep on keeping on!

"It's difficult to free fools from the chains they learned to revere." VOLTAIRE

I have a neighbor always talking about and hell and being saved, I told him I was agnostic. I don't believe he knows what it means, and honestly Id be wasting my time/energy trying to educate him

20 seconds ago 43 views youve got a handful of loyal fans there...

Great work Aron. Please keep at it.

I just wouldn’t challenge religious believers because they don’t care what I think.

Speaking of admitting that you're wrong, I'm glad you came around on the mythicist thing. A lot of RU-vid atheists are wasting time arguing about mythicism when there are much more substantive arguments to be made that debunk Christianity.

- I Love these warranted rants of yours. You are one of my favorite people.

Idk if anyone will read this but I recently, within the past couple of weeks, accepted by atheism. When I realized I don't believe I felt a moment of fear because I understood that I am all alone. Then I realized I had been all alone this whole time and have been fine. I will never say God does not exist, but I cannot be honest with myself and say I believe God exists.

When it comes to religious apologetics, it doesn’t matter whether they’re novices or life long apologists. None of them can prove any god exists.😈

Those who require the threat of torture forever to be kind, probably shouldn't be trusted in the first place.

This feels all too familiar, usually when I end up talking to creationists. It always hurts when you get accused of lying especially when you have the mountain of evidence for evolution and an old earth at your back.

"Those who have no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence" or I think that's the quote.

Aron Ra, excellent! Their fear or financials seem to govern their belies! 👍💙💙💙🥰✌

Word Brother

The two biggest problems when discussing religion with theists is (a) when the discussion moves away from their script they almost always resort to rather dishonest excuses and end up with ad hominem; and (b) it usually take more time to explain the simple things than their attention span allows. Assuming of course, you can move the discussion past the point of monologue from the beginning.

I’ve found pastors think they are experts on any topic they choose to talk about whether it’s biology, physics, chemistry, psychology, finances, etc even though they have zero training or experience in any of these fields. They really think they know more than the experts.

It's interesting to note how the preacher accent makes one pronounce Believe exactly as Aron has it in the thumbnail, with 3 syllables and accent on the Lie.

Thank you Aron Ra, you always make eminent sense......

Any " Movement " That requires thoughts and acceptance of pretending and demand you play along, regardless of evidence against , needs to be questioned.

01:04 I was raised Catholic, spent years in various Protestant churches, and now am Catholic again, and I have a very hard time imagining these things. It's especially difficult because I have never met a religious person who thinks like the people you describe. Even in some of the most zealous Calvinist circles I've never met someone who says everyone must believe and think exactly like they. There is one place I've seen that mentality play out, albeit without explicitly stating it: woke cancel mobs on twitter and at secular universities.

One of the benefits of having served in the US military is I got to travel overseas and I got to see many different World Views

Well said!❤ Doesn’t surprise me the emails are going unanswered. If it’s the kid that did the live soft debate, he seemed to be getting help online. At times reading instead of listening to Aron’s point, then instead of responding- he’d challenge him on something said earlier, change subject to a new point, etc.

Just remember that "not collecting stamps" is a real hobby.

Bless the day the empire sent you to educate us . K'plah!

Great work as always, I don’t know where you find the patience lol I’ll need to get you a beer or something on the boat in a few days

On a totally different subject, I LOVE your backgrounds

I had a months-long long run-in with someone who, I'm pretty sure, intended to defend theism. Their tactic was an immediate barrage of accusations of lying, and of committing constant logical fallacies. After a while, and 7 dictionary definitions of "to lie" which all include intent to deceive later, it came out that the person was referring to some 4th tier definition in a 3rd rate dictionary, to lie is to make a misleading statement, with or without intent to deceive. Calling out false accusations of lies, as lies themselves looks puerile, _tu quoque_ "I'm not the liar, you are!" It's almost clever, lie out of your arse, then accuse everyone else of lying. I thought the person was smart enough to know that most people associate lies with dishonesty, accusations of lies are character-assassination attempts - but they would never concede this point. The person refused to identify as either theist, deist, atheist or agnostic (or any combination thereof), their position on belief in god or gods was "still weighing possibilities" and "searching". That was belied by refusal to admit they might be wrong about anything. I suggested that while we wait for her (claimed to be a her but with zero femininity) to discover or finish weighing, that she was an atheist. But for her, atheist could only be defined as someone who positively believes there is no god. "Lack of belief" was rejected as a definition of atheism. It was very disturbing to be accused of lies in post after post with no let-up for months. "Nice lie" she would say, but lies are not nice.

Now this is what it's like when world views collide

Asking a Christian to read and understand something beyond the Bible. That is adorable.

The truth IS on our side, the "faith" be damned

Concise and correct! Only one area not covered the is still a mystery of depth -- emotions vs. reason. Religion magnificently manipulates through emotions - fear, comfort, solemn "joy", sexual desire control, ritual repetition for indoctrination while strains over gnats of "scripture" for immutable life guidelines and truths. Non-belief, science and reality require us to use our brains for a hell of a lot more than pat answers. It is hard work - and scorned by those controlled by unthought emotions with doctrines denying truth or real human intelligence of how things are. Scientists work to discover what we do not know mea. They measure and test their work against what our species believe -- and in many places and times have been excoriated from society and profession for periods extending beyond their lifetime. Like Darwin, when original science based findings are found valid and then applied to develop rafts of validation and truths of the the specific how and why of their work, it MUST be moved from hypothesis to theory. It may become a base for greater understanding of many unsuspected parts of life when applied. The emotionally driven indoctrinated will take umbrage at any science that contradicts their belief's ancient myth-born scriptures and practices. For too many a loud stance from misguided or deliberately ignorant pulpits delay understanding, development or use of what scientific endeavor has to offer for all mankind. For too many those "spiritual" laws and scriptures handed down over centuries may never be questioned or tested for truth or utility in an ever changing world. Their deep seated emotions and their intellectual laziness will not allow it. They gain emotional comfort and personal satisfaction in the lazy practices of hearing, rereading, repeating, and often ritual, then "righteously" enforcing their beliefs without thought to truths beyond that guided by their own personal emotions. Any variance from their emotional well being is considered heresy, lunacy, damnation, and faithless.

Sounds like religions the world over!

Kills me when I wanna watch my favorite anti theist. Religious ads quickly pop on. They must be desperate if they have to purchase ad space on every channel that doesn't put up with their bs.