Where Are the Grown-Ups? (Episode  

“All evils are caused by insufficient knowledge” - David Deutsch

exacly, you can't expect the media to say for years every single day that trump is a treat to democracy and that he will impose a dictatorship without having this kind of repercussions

Misinformation 😂 only the legacy media tell the truth

@@BeastHive “misinformation” yes commrade

@@masquecenamarada945 Perhaps he shouldn't say he will be a dictator then. Poor Trump having his own words used against him.

It would've been better if Twitter just continued letting the government tell it who could and couldn't speak on the platform in secret. Then we wouldn't have so much of this pesky free speech all over the place!

Free speech is far better than censorship, hard stop.

The community notes feature has been an incredibly useful tool in dismantling the current regime's propaganda.

"The Twitter Files, which revealed that the government was coercing big tech platforms into censoring people, were really one big nothing-burger." -Sam Harris, 2024, amazingly enough

@@DB-sd3cw I made a comment about how absurd it is that Sam thinks the wit-twer I-uls were a 'nothingburger' but the YT-cenBot didn't like it very much. Fucking ironic.

That and "shithead that he [Carlson] undoubtedly is" had me cracking up.

Sam just dismissing the Twitter files is _wild._ "Yeah, the government was secretly pressuring social media companies to censor people along political lines, in clear violation of the First Amendment. Big whoop, seriously, who cares?"

They should all be free. This method absolutely sucks. Getting a scholarship every few months or whatever when it runs out. I used to listen to this podcast all the time a few years ago, now almost never.

​@@willi1397 Look, I also think it's a bummer they're not more accessible but it's extremely entitled of you to expect having content like this for free. He will even give you a 6 month membership for free if you can't afford the $8/month fee

​@@willi1397 It is free to anyone who wants it for free. Just send an email to the crew. This is a very intelligent business model in this age of free misinformation. You have to pay people for doing a good job.

​@@willi1397 It is free for anyone who wants it for free. Just sen a message to the crew. This is an intelligent business model. People have to be paid for there to be quality content. There will always be a lesser free version of you.

that does encapsulate it pretty well.

Why? Because they don't believe in the elite political deep state supported nonsense on the left?

left wing people cant stand for there to be even the smallest pocket of media that isn't entirely colonized by leftwing ideology. is a near monopoly of left wing ideology in hollywood, the gaming industry, newspapers, social media and streaming services not enough?

Maybe if the media stopped calling themselves "objective" when they are so clearly to the left people wouldnt feel the need to look for alternative sources. Also Rogan is clearly on the left and Tucker was more popular with people on the left than Rachael Maddow before he was fired from Fox.

Ok Karen

Ha good one. 😂

Voice of Reason: Repeatedly calling Trump a modern day Hitler who is going to end democracy doesn't lead leftwing nutjobs to attempt to murder him. Sure buddy... really reasonable

Still waiting on his criticism of Kamala and Joe

"Trump is a threat to our democracy. Trump is literally Hitler." -> Two people try to *oof* him in as many months -> Sam: "The idea that these attempts have anything to do with democrat rhetoric is absurd." Just _imagine_ if Biden or Kamala had been the recipient of two such attempts, instead of Trump. We would be up to our eyeballs in reporting about how the Republicans are the party of *hate,* and this was the consequence of their _dangerous rhetoric!_ What do we get when the shoe is on the other foot? A deep and abiding memory hole.

@@euphegeniaHe’s done it many times. He even advocated for Biden to drop out.

I think he has a poker voice 😂

soothing voice + common sense is a greatly appreciated commodity in such a bombastic world

Because sam is deranged

@@loudawg25How so?

Sam certainly has moments of lucidity, but even he falls victim to shortsighted and sensationalized framing. It's why he fell out of favor of many - and I say this as someone who appreciates him earnestly and feels disappointed by some of his deeply faulty rationale.

@@RashidMBey Such as?

@@RashidMBey For example?

Sam has retreated into a small corner of the internet

Has Lex ever pushed back on a blatant mistruth? He's the most conservative-enabling liberal in podcasting.

@@lostgeometry Lex is clearly conservative, and not a very bright one. Does he claim otherwise and I missed it?

​@@lostgeometrylex is not liberal

Lex is semi-spineless. He has a reputation for asking questions that are borderline tough, but then as you say leaving it with whoever he's talking to say whatever they want. It is the only way someone doing what he does can survive I think. I mean look at Don Lemon's interview with Elon Musk and how vindicative Elon got, cancelling his contract. There is something seriously wrong with Eon Musk, but people are afraid of him because he is so rich. They also seem to think he is right because he is rich beyond belief.

@@justgivemethetruth Yeah, I think the same as you, that Lex does not challenge or follow-up on answers, to survive and to attract the powerful and influential people he wants to interview. I read the Isaacson bio of Elon, to try to understand where he's coming from. I think his Asperger's makes him unable to understand the way most people feel and operate, and that makes him uniquely bad with social media. An interesting point in Elon's life was when he was in danger of losing Tesla, he was so anxious, he would have puking fits, according to his wife or girlfriend at the time. She didn't think he was going to live long, because of all the stress he was under. With Tucker though, I not only waded through the entire interview with Putin twice, I listened to the whole interview with Lex, and was pleased that at least Lex got to ask Tucker the question about the messages he sent about hating Trump. Initially though, I felt really frustrated at the lack of follow-up, how Lex just let Tucker's dumb answer drop, even though it didn't make sense, and as larded as it was with diversion to other topics. I mean, it was the most important question Lex asked. And the comments, 95% by huge Tucker fans, were sickening. As Sam suggests, Lex is pleasing a lot of right-wingers, and Sam knows about that, when he was invaded some years ago by the alt-right, who misinterpreted most of what he wrote and said about Muslims. But when I listen to Sam talk about Tucker or Trump, he's like a much smarter version of myself, in the way he voices his opinions. And I don't mind being in a silo once in a while, to hear my opinions voiced by such a smart, articulate and thoughtful person as Sam. Tucker is infuriating, and the degree of his influence is staggering. I'm transfixed by Trump though, because of his ignorance-to-influence ratio.

He knows exactly what he’s doing too. 😂

@@rico14 It's outrageous that he's not agreeing with you and Sam!

​@@payleryder45He only agrees with Moloch and Mammon.

You think that's bad? Sam still doesn't know the msm is 100% propaganda.

I sort of have a category of pundits that are married with family or not insofar as a measure of stability. Also, that crazy ass laugh; put Howard Dean to shame, but he owned it.

...he never admitted he was wrong about covid.... Run for president? Who is gonna vote for him? People on the left hate him because hes against Islam. People on the right hate him because hes got TDS and pro lockdown.

I will take time to listen to Sam Harris, but I have to admit I do hold some gripes with his part in the IDW bulls***. It was obvious from the very beginning that the figures involved were garnering a huge audience with various culture war issue whilst pushing them towards the modern day insanity we are living through with MAGA. The red flags were there for all to see, and Sam Harris helped give that band of crazies legitimacy.

What mistake has he admitted to? This closest I've heard to that was him saying he underestimated anti-semitism.

You can email them and pay any amount your want.

​@@skiTahoeNow1That's what I do 👍

That's the point. "Making Cents"

Trump supporters are the middle. Maybe one day you'll realize that.

So am I !!!!

There is zero wisdom

@@chriscalderin6677 zero wisdom is from people like Trump and Tucker Carlson

@SamSullyV yes, the principle that government controlled institutions, regardless of how incompetent they have proven to be, should be the standard in this country. Great principle.

@@EarlyRiser71 No. The principle that rational thought and reason should win out over grifting for clicks

@@SamSullyV he is nothing but a TDS suffering biased pundit at this point

Lmao

What's bad about that? Rabbit holes are thematically associated with discovering hidden truths, no?

I used to think he was a good communicator, but not so much these days. He's now far too verbose, and he repeats arcane phrases like "the cash value of . . . " (which is presumably philosopher jargon) far too often. Some of his recent guests have been far better communicators than he is now, and that's been refreshing.

@@randyevermore9323 Thanks for giving your completely irrelevant opinion, Randy. > Regardless of your personal feeling to him, he IS one of the most powerful speakers of our time. Sorry he tickles you wrong, good luck with that.

@@fpsKOLA "Thanks for giving your completely irrelevant opinion, Randy." Don't mention it. You're own irrelevant opinion is equally appreciated.

An aspect of Trump that I find under reported, or not reported at all is the radical change he wants to force. Business, at least most non-global-monopoly businesses hate radical change like this, and given the chaos he will bring to prices and markets at an already time of chaos - I don't see how business leaders are not shouting out against him. Except that perhaps they feel they will be retaliated against if he wins. This is some very bad stuff going on, and even if Trump is not elected the space left by his exit will lay the opening for people even worse.

oh right, none of that applies to Kamala. That's right. At least you know who Trump is. You have no idea what Kamala is.

@@peteMickeal33 Im not claiming she is perfect at all. I simply see more humility, integrity and that she actually does care about the people she talks to. She surrounds herself with people who are truly close with their familiy and who seem to have genuine human connections. Trump is divorced 3 times, cheated multiple times, shines of self importance. There is a narcissism in him that any sane person would see, Kamala is simply not that hollow. Where is Trumps wife? Where is his daughters? Why are they barely around him? I think like with any true narcisisst, they simply cant stand it. Yes kamala is a politician, and does act like it at times, but i dont doubt she has good intentions beyond herself.

Elon wants to manipulate Trump for his own gain? Typical far left tactic: attack a person's motivations, not what he says. If all Elon cares about is "making moar monies" why would he buy Twitter, at a loss, and open it up to the people who want to make the government smaller? To the party that has been CUTTING government regulations? Then when Elon/Trump spoke Elon wanted to be part of a task force that increases government efficiency by cutting the bloat of government. How can the government benefit him if hes helping it become smaller? You far leftists always do this, you always assume people's motivations are "moar monies" "he'z doughing it fer da monies!"

DT wasn’t accepted by the DC elite so he created his own-go figure…

The full episode was only 10 minutes longer and he said most if not all of the most important stuff here. You didn't miss anything.

@@abstractdaddy1384 ah - ok - cheers

This guy is a deer in headlights talking to anyone intelligent

If Sam thought he could be effective in that conversation, then he would. If he thought he could be effective in an engagement with Bret Weinstein, then he would have. His refusal to engage is cowardice and nothing else.

This would imply that Tucker's reasonable, or that he has something worthwhile to say. There's been enough water under the bridge now to conclude that neither is the case.

​@@mobile012I remember bowtie tucker years ago. Didn't care for him really. Like him more now. As much as you can relate to a out of touch multimillionaire. So many people talk so much. Sam's trumpastan crap is just as bad. Too bad hate burns the container it lives in. Love to go back the the Sam that tried to convince me that people don't have free will

@@craigpoer I remember Tucker's hilarious off-camera response to Rutger Bregman. That was one of the first nails in the coffin as far as I'm concerned.

he is an antivaxxer. Case closed.

​@@animetributes6996 His views are more nuanced than that. Technologically speaking as far as I understand it the things that were produced to combat covid are so far beyond traditional vaccines that it's inappropriate to even call them that. It's like comparing a flintlock pistol to a modern assault rifle, sure they technically are both guns but their capabilities and potential to do harm are incredibly different from one another. If you actually listen to the content of his arguments he distinguishes between whatever you would call the covid vaccines and the more traditional ones which he is in no way against. Simply labeling him as anti vax as if that constitutes a legitimate argument is intellectually dishonest and lazy.

He's done so for sure.

@@rickl5596 Where?

Bigger fish to fry, fam.

There are definitely things to critique about that side too but it pales in comparison to Trump stuffing the supreme court with judges who declare him immune and thus paving the way to turning the USA into a defacto monarchy/dictatorship. Or there's Trump cozying up to and praising dictators while treating our allies as enemies.

When on the starboard bow there is a frenzy of sharks attacking a sinking ferry, you don’t report on the three dolphins cavorting on the port side eating tuna… Jeeeez!

At least that's what you like to tell yourself.

💯 I only post on youtube now. I have the disease of wanting to soapbox, but I'm smart enough to realize it's a disease.

@@SaviorMoney-777don’t worry, he wasn’t talking about you

@@MrAnders9000 Well we're both here still, so...

I only like youtube for learning and listening to music. Instagram, FB and twitter are cancerous

Why do people who say don't trust the government always want us to elect con artists peddling Russian conspiracy theories?

Can you describe why?

@@BrianHoff04 the mass unloading of Haitians into small towns makes zero sense politically, ethically, or legally.

His solo podcasts are the best.

I've wondered about that--it is presented as someone having "shepherded" them into this one particular place. Is that possible? And who would be doing it?

@@WNH3 Hasn´t the government done that before with other immigrant groups? The Biden administration has Haitians under a special category of immigrants giving them special protections dropping them into places that aren´t very diverse. Government did the same with Somalians in Minneapolis, no?

12-15k from what I've read. They've been there for 3 years and nobody heard a peep about them. But now that an election is a around the corner the right needed something to fear monger over.

It is a false number. Sam's simply wrong. Only about 1,200 Springfield residents, or 2% of the town's population, were born outside the U.S. (I'd provide a link to my source but apparently YT deletes comments that include external links).

@@randyevermore9323 Town officials have stated that Haitians probably account for around 20% of the population but the census hasn't had time to catch up to the new reality of the past few years. And Sam's number is also around the number being reported by most mainstream sources. You guys are so desperate for it not to be true.

I prefer the wild west to North Korea. Your mileage may vary. Some people yearn for their shackles.

Some people don't wilt because people say things that they don't like.

Does Twitter contain more or less management sanctioned partisan propaganda than it did prior to Elon’s ownership.

You should stick to safe spaces, like Sam. Too many people that know stuff out there. 😉

That’s social media in general. I just came from instagram and most posts end up with folks bashing each other.

Your party negotiated a reasonable immigration policy with the GOP in good faith, only to have Trump order his minions to shoot it down in the name of having an issue to run on.

@@rickl5596 LOOOOOOOOL you don't believe that.

How are Democrats ’conducting immigration’?

Yeah, I grew up conservative and landed moderate-left. I'm glad I got out around 2010, before GOP voters went dumpster-diving for candidates.

Bush is one of the major contributors to this shitshow we’re in. He’s a war criminal imo and Cheney too. In fact, the whole lot of them dems and republicans.

@@russellhammond371that happen with Trump. We still had good decent Republicans in 2012.

Yeah you all seem to cheerlead for the legacy war criminal establishment.

Bush Jr. killed 1,500,000 innocent Iraqis. He's a war criminal.

So Sam's justifying 1000's of children killed by 2000lb US bombs is not repulsive?

​@@twntwrs he doesn't need to justify anything, he is not Israel nor does he act for them. Additionally, you need to read "The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement" written by Hamas, their words describe their thoughts and actions on October 6th and upon any other terrorist attack where people are using the Quran to kill people as justification for their words and actions.

@@twntwrs Whataboutism.

@@twntwrs You don’t justify ridding Palestine of Hamas?

Sure thing, brown bomber. 😉👍

The bots are out in force

The GOP is just the other half of the uniparty. They piggyback because they have no choice. They aren't even as bad as the Democrats.

Very astute analysis. As a lifelong Republican, I am sad to say I have to generally agree with you. I don't think Elon has completely lost it yet, but he might be getting there.

I'm pretty sure Sam would find it very difficult to resist the opportunity to have Elon appear on this podcast. It might be a tough, tense conversation, but there are undoubtedly many things they could discuss in significant depth.

Fear mongering. Stop it.

You frame this as if it would be an irresistible temptation to have Elon Musk as a guest. The web is already saturated with Musk interviews, and they are all INTENSELY dull.

... because it confirms your delusions.

@@SaviorMoney-777​​⁠​⁠got a pic of Jesus as your profile and are talking about delusions. That’s rich 🤣🤣🤣

@@goodvibes-gy3jn It's a cartoon of Jesus with money, called Savior money, so... yeah over your head I guess. No surprise.

@@SaviorMoney-777 yeah ok dude, you’re still a troll and probably a bot, definitely dumb that’s for sure.

It's a pity Sam said that thing about the Hunter Biden laptop being so immaterial, that, by comparison, if they found evidence of Biden taking moolah directly from China he would still be a better option than Drumpf. Wrecked a lot of his credibility with a lot of people.

Yeah, really, I cannot believe Sam is the outcast. When I heard him talking about Ezra Klein, who I've been following since Biden's bad debate and I think he's a pretty good thinker - it was hard to believe Ezra attacked Sam, that doesn't seem right.

He still believes in Russia gate that was proven a Democrat hoax years ago no one intelligent would think he is intelligent

My wife’s Italian grandmother never assimilated, never spoke English but she was an American citizen. So what seems to be the problem?

yes, but america has ALWAYS been a multi-cultural land, so... who has to assimilate? and into which culture must they assimilate? did the pilgrims assimilate into the cultures they found already in place when they got here? and when europeans murdered their way west did they assimilate the cultures of the people they decimated? oh, i get it... you want everyone to to assimilate *_your_* culture, learn *_your_* language... 🤔💭 are you insisting the amish assimilate? the mennonites? the mormons? the hassidic? seems like the darker a person's skin, the greater the demand for assimilation... and the swifter the demand! and cultures *_ALL_* borrow from each other... just take a look at yourself... do you look like your own ancestors of 500 years ago? do you speak the same way they did? do you eat the same food? it's called *_"change"..._* you'd better come to grips with it... ☮💟🌍 (psst... be careful... your racism is showing) 😉

@@dermotmeuchner2416 Sam is referring to the fear of change in demographics and culture that people have. He is saying that people that have these worries aren’t necessarily racist. He is saying that we should not discount these concerns that people have and if we do the only ones that will actually speak up on behalf of people that have these concerns are genuine racists and bigots. He isn’t saying that not assimilating is bad or that immigrants or bad or anything like that. He is simply referring to people that have concerns about these things.

Did the former Twitter ever censor left leaning opinions when they were as correct as the following right of center opinions - lab leak, Hunter Biden’s laptop, The Great Barrington Declaration? If all of such behavior was nothing but rank partisan propagandizing why does Sam continue to paint Elon as unhinged because he has so far been unable to control a seemingly nearly uncontrollable platform. I know that TDS afflicted Sam would much prefer the previous pre-Elon iteration but he also seems satisfied to sacrifice all platforms and institutions that stand in the way of his delusion that Trump is the only or the greatest threat to our democracy.

@@o.b.v.i.u.s My wife is a first generation immigrant from Mexico. My son is biracial and we’re proud of our family. I happily and proudly employee people of literally every skin color, and pay every one of them above market wages. If you think I’m racist then… woo 😂

@@LLlap and Sam is a man who danced with lions on a psychedelic trip. Your point?

@@ronaldbeamon5564OP had one (a point); you don’t.

@@BooksForever Sam is a scary idiot believing in spirits. There is my point.

@@BooksForever hey I remember you! My point is Sam is a scary idiot believing in spirits.

@@BooksForever hey I remember you! You are really insufferable! My point is he is a scary idiot as well! Not hard to decipher!

The part where he runs wildly successful companies. You can hate him without making yourself look like a clown.

Sam, or any dem for that matter, don't know how to talk to the working class anymore. This is why they will lose the Whitehouse in Nov.

The "REAL DEMOCRACY" process you're describing is mob justice. It turns out that throwing tomatoes and jeering is simply a less effective strategy for policy-building. Whether or not those of you who've become drunk on the populist kool-aid will perceive criticism as being detached to the point of insufferable is irrelevant; the fact is this: both sides of this new dichotomy are pro-corporation and thus antithetical to the working class by nature, but the fact is especially so in the new Republican party, which has convinced its base to believe in what are blatantly unsustainable approaches to undue prosperity. You want more? Are you part of a 'struggling' family? Well, tough: we haven't paid for the stimulus checks George W. sent out yet, or the wars since, let alone worked off any of the debt incurred by our two years of hiding at home over a cough. The working class doesn't _know_ what its own best interests are. It never has. That's why pure Democracy doesn't work. Madison wasn't the first to know this. Neither was Plato. Consider this one small point: chew on the reality that the working class' average IQ is below 100. Do you really _want_ policy determined by collective brains like that? Personally, I wouldn't let a 100-IQ load plywood into my truck without watching. Be happy that you can even afford your cigarettes and the little screen you're now typing those entitled complaints into.

​@EarlyRiser71 we can only hope

To me it seems like Kamala is winning right now tbh

So much for "REAL DEMOCRACY." My response to you has been made invisible by the down-votes. Like I said: a mob.

No, he likely took no more than the first booster, if even that. He's just not honest enough to level with his audience that he trusts Big Pharma only slightly more than Bret Weinstein but admitting his errors now would be embarrassing.

@@JackSchitt-p9t Trump and COVID ruined him.

Greetings from southwest-central Pennsylvania. You are not alone in this thought. When personal beliefs aspire to become public policy, they need to be stopped. Personal liberties ought not grow so large as to impose themselves upon the personal liberties of others. By the way, calling the Age of Enlightenment a "Century of Lights" is a beautiful description; we can always trust the French to provide some of the best verbal poetry.

You need your memory checked. Bush started several wars, signed the Patriot Act, and created an unconstitutional torture program. Trump said a bunch of mean things on Twitter. All of the worst things Trump did were continuations of the bad policies that Obama had continued from Bush.

I had my most successful four years in my lifetime under Trump. Speak for yourself you trembling little lamb

Yup. Republican presidents the last few decades have been catastrophes.

@@arthurswanson3285 The idea that Bush is worse than Trump is crazy. I'd list off all the worst things Bush did, but when I tried that, the yt-cenBot got angry. Suffice to say, rerak rar, Ratriot Ract, rillegal roture rogram, rone rogram, and the list goes on. All of the worst things Trump did were continuations of policies that Obama ultimately continued from Bush.

@@migarsormrapophis2755 I had a front seat of the inanity of the bush years. He was a disaster of a president with rerak alone.

Good to know you're a simpleton. 👍

@@SaviorMoney-777 I'd imagine anyone to believe that story to be true , would have to be a bit of a simpleton. Then I just surmised that's who he perceives his audience to be. What other explanation do you have for someone that lies blatantly to his audience the way to Carlson does. He relies on the simpleton’s of the world to pay his salary

@@davidcamp1231 What's Sam's excuse? Everyone is wrong about things. Sam is REALLY wrong about a lot these days. As far as the guy Tucker interviewed - how TF do you know if he was telling the truth or not? Barry is certainly light in his loafers. That's painfully obvious.

@@SaviorMoney-777 I never knew the term light on his loafers. That's funny

@@SaviorMoney-777 as far as how do I know- well I grew up without a father, and my bullshit detector is through the roof……

Omg 100% agree

Yes, and at this point, how can any intelligent, honest person defend people like Dave Rubin and Bret Weinstein and Jordan Peterson?

@@marcevan1141Bingo. They all went off the deep end.

@@marcevan1141 Might be a sign of my lack of intelligence, but I think Bret is still worth tuning into from time to time. Although they arrive at vastly different places on many subjects, I think Bret's integrity is up there with Sam's, and they share a kind of refreshingly sincere idealism. He has a feverishly generative mind, though that fever-dreaming sometimes gets the better of him - like the idea that Trump, of all people, is a fit leader for a unity movement.

@@marcevan1141with regards to Jordan Peterson, doesn’t Sam Harris uphold very similar views on recent politics in the UK, Israel and Palestine et cetera..? Where do you draw the line? Is it in large part JP’s alignment with the Daily Wire and people like Ben Shapiro? Or the failure of JP not to have asked the hard questions with Elon? Though he seemed to get the feedback on the recent Tommy Robinson interview, and asked harder questions. Genuinely curious.

And Harris is too scared to come out in public without a script or a handler, as a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE!!

Are they not stealing and eating pets, and is that not a serious problem? Pretty sure he brought it under the understanding that it's insane

@@NoahSteckley Nobody is stealing and eating pets you lunatic. The effort that it takes for someone to debunk nonsense is way more than the effort that it takes for a NotC or a Russian shill to spread it. There are a bunch of these if you care. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-31oBp1QwbYg.html

@@NoahSteckley There is a time and place to be a high decoupler and overly abstract facts on the ground. That time is not when a city is getting a flurry of bomb threats at it's schools and public establishments because of a right wing smear campaign.

@@NoahSteckley Whether or not there have been any individual cases of people eating pets, Trump was implying that this is a COMMON practice amongst the immigrant Haitians in that city, because that's the kind of people they are (so not some weird idiosyncratic one-off episode). I think it's irresponsible to make such a serious and incendiary claim in a public national debate without VERY strong & reliable evidence to support it. Seeing a video on the internet is nowhere near good enough. Sam makes a similar point in this episode: just because a single fact you may report is true, that doesn't mean you are reporting responsibly or giving an accurate picture of the story.

Because he kept getting called out on his ridiculous nonsense?

@@SaviorMoney-777 What nonsense?

If Trump had an ounce of competence he would’ve known exactly how to properly phrase the argument. And now see the damage he’s done and the evaporating hope that people might take notice all because he became fixated on one thing which isn’t 100% true, which undermines the 95% that IS true.

@@DisposableSupervillainHenchman exactly. Well put.

Not enough time in a debate to clearly explain everything. In a weird way, Trump did a good move. He said something outrageous enough, that it grabbed people's attention. And now people are investigating and looking into Springfield, Ohio. They might not be finding cats and dogs being eaten, but they are finding a lot of other problems. I didn't know that 15k to 20k illegal immigrants had been displaced in a city with 60k population before the debate. Did you? Maybe you're special, maybe you did. How many people who know now, didn't before? Trump said a stupid thing, but somehow it's working out. Don't know if it's 3D chess, or him being weirdly lucky. Whatever it is, I would gladly take it, instead of the current administration that is causing these problems in the first place.

The thing is, 15,000 Haitians didn't simply all move to a city that none of them had probably ever even heard of. There was some impetus, and in this case it seems many were invited. So the issue isn't Haitian immigration to this town. It is that the town didn't adequately prepare for them in advance.

@@rickl5596 exactly.

Sam could tell us specifically what is wrong with RFK. He could engage RFK in dialog so that we could better discern. He does neither. Why?

Imagine if the Democratic Presidential candidate was asked tough questions . . .

if you listen to them they will tell you.

@@sweetloveoftheairToo bad logic can’t enter your skull…

Basic grammar or punctuation hasn't even entered his head.

​@@sweetloveoftheairhis "work" with the Federal government consists of milking the teat of federal funding.

@@jacqdanieles exacty. Musk is not the hero his tech bro cultists want to believe he is.

@sweetloveoftheair it's not "false", big brain. _"Los Angeles entrepreneur Elon Musk has built a multibillion-dollar fortune running companies that make electric cars, sell solar panels and launch rockets into space._ _And he's built those companies with the help of billions in government subsidies._ _Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support, according to data compiled by The Times. The figure underscores a common theme running through his emerging empire: a public-private financing model underpinning long-shot start-ups."_

How the republican politicians are not constantly questioned about their position on d trump proclaiming that that he would "Terminate the constitution " is appalling, suspiciously curious and an utter disgrace, defunding public education for >60yrs was a brilliant strategy usa.

The left forced trump to try to overturn the election? Never talking any responsibility is conservatives biggest traits

Yeah the extreme left is crazy but there are a lot of centrists that aren't. Whereas the right is now all crazy since Trump took over

That’s actually a good example of a broader divide occurring in various parts of the world. When the only response to the opposing side is something extreme like "they should all be put in a sack and ..." (which I’ve heard from liberals in this case), it gives the impression that there’s too little effort being made to understand the grievances of large segments of the population or to open a dialog. The mindset of "they’re all just defective and need to be put in line" is concerning. While there are certainly crazy people - possibly in equal measure on both sides - it’s not just limited to them.

@@IggyInBurnaby How the republican politicians are not constantly questioned about their position on d trump proclaiming that that he would "Terminate the constitution " is appalling, suspiciously curious and an utter disgrace, defunding public education for >60yrs was a brilliant strategy usa.

What he said was that highlighting something incessantly was the problem. He gave an example to the effect of how if the NY Times only ever wrote articles about the murder of someone by an immigrant that it would be wrong to do so regardless of the fact it may be true. Then there is the fact that Trump's incessant highlighting of immigration problems are often not even based on the truth.

@@rickl5596 idk the left seems to have gone gaga. Trumps a horrible person but there’s something systemic in the democrats

...and they're 100% correct.

It seems to be mostly bots with 4 numbers on the ends of their names saying vaguely praising things about Sam's calm voice today, actually.

Accurately put Sir.

Why should we care about this first amendment thing? US Constitution applies to one country that is home to ~4.2% of global population. X (Facebook, YT, etc.) is used across the world, with the exception of China, russia, and a handful of other dictatorships. One should be concerned with how this concept is defined in detail in modern day and in globally accepted documents. BTW, here's the relevant excerpt from this amendment: "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press ". Being quite old, it restricts Congress' actions only and does not help understand what to do with AI generated content or, say, intentional disinformation. Frankly, it's rather useless, imho. For example, what about lying? I mean, typically, if you lie in the criminal court and it is later proved you lied, this is an offense and you may go to jail. I hope that's also the case in the US (not a US citizen). BUT you can lie on X left and right, because "freedom of speech"? What about, say, inciting violence that results in loss of life or damage to property - isn't that a criminal offense? In other words, freedom of speech is nowhere close to being binary, unless we presume that it either is (in some hypothetical world, perhaps), or is not (the real world, including even things like X or Telegram). But then we must acknowledge that both, say, russia and the US both have no freedom of speech (something kremlin has been trying to tell us all for years ;)). There's a reason why there are things like Freedom of expression index, World press freedom index, etc.

@@k.squared I don't think you understand what Freedom of Speech is.

@@TheAtheist22 What does your remark add to this conversation? You disagree. OK. So?

Sam Harris states that "Not everyone should have a platform to speak on, and they certainly shouldn't be platformed if what they say is Harmful", but he is clearly a hypocrite, because he platformed Destiny, who is a no body, who takes childish pleasure in the deaths of innocents if they don't align politically with him.

Sam Harris stated that "the demographics must have changed" for France not to be becoming a Muslim majority country but I know this is not true because French Muslims were never capable of miracles. How is that?

Those are bots

Nice comment. What else is the governor going to do? The solution once these people are in place is to try to make it work. My understanding is that the city called for immigrants to come live there. I think Sam is entirely correct feeling sympathy for Americans who have grown up here with an wide understanding of what American society it, and then someone from above decides to throw their lives into the blender with total disregard. Foreign groups are different in nature. I recall here in CA when the Vietnamese boat people immigrated to this area. There were a lot of them and they spoke poor English, and people made the same cracks about them eating dogs, etc. But the Vietnamese were poor, hardworking, exceptionally smart, and social, gentle friendly people who just want to get along. When I compare that to a little later when people from Iran immigrated here they were mostly right-wing rich people, with a lot of money and many of them had an attitude and they did not melt into society as much. Of course there is huge overlap and you can't judge people, but sometimes it seems like you can, or you can at least perceive a problem and discuss it. I don't see anything wrong with that. For instance Muslims in Europe ... OMG!

​@@justgivemethetruth Well said. I agree with your observations, especially the sympathy part. That’s helpful to hear about your experiences with the Vietnamese and Iranian immigrants. I appreciate your thoughts in the context of those communities’ overarching behaviors based on fact (hardworking, social, polite, wealthy people with attitude). I was born and raised next to an Indian Reservation in a rural area. Even though I am non-Indian, and possess a majority European roots in my bloodline, I came to develop sympathy for the native peoples of this land, and how they must’ve felt when Europeans were settling in droves, wave after wave after wave, literally just taking land. Talk about a game changer in lifestyle, language, religion, etc. While I can’t change the past, but can build for the future with common sense, I think all peoples of all colors should experience a little discomfort in life, so that we can tap into a modicum of empathy for the other. Migration is old as time. People are constantly on the move for lots of reasons. Demographics will shift. That’s why I’m absolutely dedicated to a representative democracy and a constitutional republic, and an expectation that all immigrants abide by these principles. The secular rule of law - not racial, tribal, or religious domination - is the best way forward, I believe.

If he criticized the party that just ignored democracy and installed a candidate that wasn't chosen, people may see him as credible. But he's not.

That would presuppose that they are remotely comparable and they are not in any universe

@orfeasnifakos1265 yes, what the dems have done is much, much worse. They are the biggest cult in the world at this point.

Comparing Trump to Biden is like comparing Aileen Wuornos to Martha Stewart. Both were convicted felons that served jail time for their crimes. It's just one was a serial killer and the other was an illegal stock trader that tried to cover up/hide their insider trading.

@@orfeasnifakos1265 you don’t think having a dysfunctional puppet as a president is worth talking about?

"Trump made me miss Bush." -Someone with the memory span of a goldfish

Kremlin disinformation uses that exact tactic: discredit everything & everyone to minimize the spotlight on your own horrific record

This is the real answer.

You think a presidential candidate in the 1970s would have the audacity to even *stay in the goddamned race* if he was caught on tape bragging about grabbing the genitalia of women, or having fawned all over every malevolent foreign despot in a 10,000 mile radius, or having incited an insurrection, or having botched a global pandemic via pandering to the most wilfully ignorant segment of his fanbase, or being on tape practically lusting over his own daughter? What other presidential candidate in living memory would have been unscrupulous enough to stay in the race, in the face of all that ^ plus a couple of dozen other scandalous things I can't be bothered mentioning here? No-one. Not even Richard Nixon.

I thought the one grown-up was supposed to be Walter Cronkite.