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Where Does the Bible Say That God Can Bring Good Out of Evil? 

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The saying "God works all things for good" is familiar. But is this more than just a fluffy saying for embroidering on pillows? Is it actually supported by Scripture? In this clip, Frank explores this question and how this idea impacts our trust in God.
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@CrossExamined
@CrossExamined Год назад
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@JoeShmoe376
@JoeShmoe376 Год назад
2:30 "This is why you can trust God when inexplicable evil comes into your life" Amen
@cnault3244
@cnault3244 Год назад
Inexplicable evil? Bible says god is responsible. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?
@MastaE2288
@MastaE2288 Год назад
We don’t speak about these things using teachings that are based on intellectual arguments like people do. Instead, we use the Spirit’s teachings. We explain spiritual things to those who have the Spirit. A person who isn’t spiritual doesn’t accept the teachings of God’s Spirit. He thinks they’re nonsense. He can’t understand them because a person must be spiritual to evaluate them. Spiritual people evaluate everything but are subject to no one’s evaluation. 1 Corinthians 2:13‭-‬15 GW
@cnault3244
@cnault3244 Год назад
@@MastaE2288 In other words, you don't use valid arguments, you use emotion and feelings.
@MastaE2288
@MastaE2288 Год назад
@@cnault3244 In other words, you have a heart problem. There is nothing that exists in this universe that could help you understand unless you configure your heart.
@cnault3244
@cnault3244 Год назад
@@MastaE2288 More meaningless useless platitudes trying to sound like they are conveying knowledge when the fact is they are just white noise. As for your "There is nothing that exists in this universe that could help you .." comment, based on all the evidence so far, all we have is what is within this universe. That being the fact, you could have just said "There is nothing that exists that could help you ...".
@JiraiyaSama86
@JiraiyaSama86 Год назад
Hehe..."You dirty rats..." That was funny. I love this consistent point of how God redeems something for good. It's unfortunate how in certain instances, some people can't recognize it in front of them.
@mattslater2603
@mattslater2603 Год назад
....because they aren't deluded zealots.
@davidsnoah
@davidsnoah Год назад
I lost my wonderful wife in 2020. I know the depth of pain but I trust God without wavering because He's good all the time. Lord help us!
@logicalatheist1065
@logicalatheist1065 Год назад
Sorry to hear about your wife
@Theo_Skeptomai
@Theo_Skeptomai Год назад
My condolences on the passing of your wife.
@Redeemer_80
@Redeemer_80 Год назад
The literal pinnacle of good coming from evil is our redemption as a result of the crucifixion of Christ. Without suffering, we’d have no reason to look outside ourselves for salvation. Praise the Lord
@texasskygirl7890
@texasskygirl7890 Год назад
I love this so much. I tell the story of Joseph quite often when I see Christians I know or those that I dont know well experiencing adversity. Everytime I tell it, I get chills. A reminder that God is always working on the believer's behalf even when He seems silent. Its a tapestry, we dont see the whole picture. Only parts.
@CamperEra
@CamperEra Год назад
another Texas girl here what you said I think the same exactly Thank you for sharing Maranatha
@user-nj5cl6xs4n
@user-nj5cl6xs4n Год назад
Fellow Christians, please please PLEASE, STOP referring to the history in the Bible as "stories". They are not stories, they are historical FACT and when you speak to someone, espeically an unbeliever and refer to the events in the Bible as stories it instantly implies fiction. They are not stories, they are HISTORY!
@Gek1177
@Gek1177 Год назад
​@@user-nj5cl6xs4nno they're stories. A hodgepodge of myths, fables and a legendary biography. There's probably less than 5% of the Bible that accurately reflects history.
@annemurphy9339
@annemurphy9339 Год назад
The account of Joseph has depth and meaning on so many levels, even as a type & shadow of the coming Messiah and the future 7-year time of want of the fast-approaching tribulation. How precious to know Yehovah God can work all things together for our good.
@lorrainewhitehead9080
@lorrainewhitehead9080 Год назад
@@Gek1177you’re 100% wrong. Jesus is Lord. Hallelujah
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 Год назад
Great verses given here. I thank God for the testings, trials and hardships. They've brought maturity, strength, spiritual growth and a vastly closer walk and dependence on God than times of ease and prosperity. There's much good that can come from adversity for God's people when we endure and overcome it God's way.
@chloemartel9927
@chloemartel9927 Год назад
Every word of that is gold. So true. God is so good all the time.
@T0Mmichael1234
@T0Mmichael1234 Год назад
🙌 Amen to that brother 🙏❤️
@jeffphelps1355
@jeffphelps1355 Год назад
I like what Job said "thow He may slay me I will trust Him"
@aspiringlegend9514
@aspiringlegend9514 Год назад
Do you happen to know if God also does this for those who, even though they’re not believers, are trying to determine whether or not God is real and Christianity is true? Like, they’re seekers? I’m one of these people
@chloemartel9927
@chloemartel9927 Год назад
@@aspiringlegend9514 how are you trying to discover if God and Christianity is real?
@seblanuz7741
@seblanuz7741 Год назад
I loved this answer. God bless you all! 🖑
@djcanimations5111
@djcanimations5111 Год назад
don't know how to feel about the AI generated stuff but yall bring a good message, always.
@blakefry918
@blakefry918 Год назад
Wow. Really good stuff here Frank.
@larzman651
@larzman651 Год назад
The example frank gave was correct and went by scripture. For GOD so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whomsoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life 🙌
@HUNTSMARTFASTHARD
@HUNTSMARTFASTHARD Год назад
And he also created a world wide flood that it used to murder numerous people including pregnant women and newborn babies.
@gi169
@gi169 Год назад
​@@HUNTSMARTFASTHARDHunty my dear swine do you know chata?
@gi169
@gi169 Год назад
​@@HUNTSMARTFASTHARDyou should put crying emojis at the end of your comments swine. 😅
@HUNTSMARTFASTHARD
@HUNTSMARTFASTHARD Год назад
@@gi169 Why? I'm not crying about anything. It doesn't affect my morality to have to try and defend a murdering monster that has done these things, that's on the religious people that say that these being is all loving.
@gi169
@gi169 Год назад
@@HUNTSMARTFASTHARD 😅😂🤣 WTF are you blabbering about Sykes?
@stephenkaake7016
@stephenkaake7016 Год назад
my life was destroyed 19 years ago, no one has cared, they made it thousands of times worse, to the point where I begged God to help me, I was given a special task, become the ruler of this world, there is too much evil, no one cares about me at all, I don't like how people say they care but won't help, not even to save my life
@marcydiaz246
@marcydiaz246 Год назад
Hi Stephen! Are you ok? I don't know how to help, but I absolutely can tell you are in so much pain. I hear you, and I'm sorry you hurt so.
@stephenkaake7016
@stephenkaake7016 Год назад
@@marcydiaz246 I'm not well and need help, I know people don't know what to do, as the people in power should be helping but aren't, I want you to tell someone whats going on, teeth filing, torture, abuse, wrongful punishments, maybe once enough people are aware of whats going on, someone will help, otherwise I beg my earthly father but he did this to me, so he doesn't want to help me solve what he did
@icarojose6316
@icarojose6316 Год назад
Do you mind explaining a little bit more what happened to you 19 years ago
@stephenkaake7016
@stephenkaake7016 Год назад
@@icarojose6316 my father filed down my teeth so the left side could not touch, after months of suffering I became suicidal, no one cared at all, I was ready to end it, but I decided I would live through the nightmare, hoping someone would care, but my family denied it and lied to put me into a mental ward, where I was told I was delusional, teeth filing does not happen, I was told I can't talk to the woman I love, I was then repeatedly punished, told by police I just don't get it, after 11 years of teeth breaking off, infections, another dentist filed my teeth down even more, turning my life into a brutal nightmare, I have been an abusive group home for 8 years, last year I was in so much torment I was begging God, eventually my Mind, Body and voice were taken over. I wish I had people who would get my life back
@DavidEmailman
@DavidEmailman 11 месяцев назад
Hello Stephen my friend. Thank you greatly for you letting others know of this horrific situation or situations I'm going to tell all of my Catholic and Christian friends and their churches and get you on the prayer line and list every day to get delivered. Believe and have faith and know that there's lots of hope. Keep getting the word out about your situation. I'm concerned for you. I love you. I bet you shall find encouragement, comfort, inspiration and lots more like never before. Best blessings.
@-The-Stranger-
@-The-Stranger- Год назад
Thank you Doctor for the explanation, and thank you God.
@9sunskungfu
@9sunskungfu Год назад
It's funny how things can come to you when you need to hear it the most. This is one of those moments for me as i've lately been thinking about my own past and how at times can get angry at the people that done me wrong in my life. This has given me a profound understanding and peace. All glory to our lord Jesus Christ.
@aspiringlegend9514
@aspiringlegend9514 Год назад
@@JuneAtHomePHwhat are you saying
@aspiringlegend9514
@aspiringlegend9514 Год назад
@@JuneAtHomePH oh no worries! thank you
@marcydiaz246
@marcydiaz246 Год назад
​@@JuneAtHomePH I heard you! Yes, I, too, am having a bad day, and well, here's my sign. I opened up my email and watched the video, and I feel a little better. I hope you and I have some better days coming up! I know we will! ❤
@Tiffi525
@Tiffi525 Год назад
The story of Ester is another one, and that one is a bit more complicated than Joseph's story
@sarahkessler2456
@sarahkessler2456 Год назад
You were born for such a time as this.
@saxmanjpr5092
@saxmanjpr5092 Год назад
My best friend got involved in prostitution all because his steps mother sexually abused him. The good that came out of that is hat my friend eventually hooked up with one of those ladies BUT the Lord put a stop to them going all the way. They became actual friends (and stopped hooking up) and a few months later, it was revealed to him in a dream that one day he is going to marry her! - Satan tired to ruin my friends life by this disgusting act, BUT The Lord has other plans! - Somehow though, I highly doubt one could convince a pastor about this and that pastor would say that Satan was deceiving my friend.
@chessversarius2253
@chessversarius2253 Год назад
I'm sure there are pastors that believe you, as long as you don't say it was God's wish for your friend to go into prostitution. The rest might as well be true. (However I'm very sceptical about visions in dreams. I wouldn't trust them. It's always safe to what God directly says in the Bible and then if doors close and open that's most likely the way to go.)
@cocoj126
@cocoj126 Год назад
I love this man. He articulates what is in my heart.
@offroad5798
@offroad5798 10 месяцев назад
That's scripture doing that 2 Timothy 3:16-17 Hebrews 4:12
@gi169
@gi169 Год назад
Thank you CE...👍
@joserivera-yx2tp
@joserivera-yx2tp Год назад
Great answer doctor
@generallukeproductions
@generallukeproductions Год назад
Good question, good answer. Earned my like 👍🏻
@d3m1g0d4
@d3m1g0d4 Год назад
A Ripple Effect can either become a Blessing or a Curse
@princejacob25
@princejacob25 Год назад
Thank you LORD
@LogisticallyMisrepresented
@LogisticallyMisrepresented Год назад
Evil is out there. Turning to Jesus and giving him your faith makes good what wasn't.
@darkeen42
@darkeen42 Год назад
No evil is not out of there selfishness is out there hate is out there. And your gullibility and ignorance are definitely out there in force. But now it is very damaging for humanity for you people to decide things are evil because you have to fight an attack them and refused to learn about them so you can continue to think they're evil instead of figuring out the actual cause when you ignore reality in favor of fairytales and your decision-making process you will always make poor dangerous damaging decisions you should read your Bible that tells you to do some absolutely terrible disgusting retarded things
@darkeen42
@darkeen42 Год назад
It's weird that the worst evils in the world have been Christian not the Holocaust the KKK slavery pretty much the worst things in humanity have been following your Bible
@Thundawich
@Thundawich Год назад
Best part about that famine story, to take it at face value is to read all the isolated island cultures of the world as having travelled to egypt to buy grain.
@willievanstraaten1960
@willievanstraaten1960 Год назад
Question, 0:00 “When you say that God brings good from Evil ready in the text do you see that” In the scriptures, god boasts that he created evil. He even explains how he commands and sends his evil spirits to do bad harm to people.
@ObjectOfMercy
@ObjectOfMercy Год назад
I’ll take you one even deeper on the story of Joseph… The evil of Judah led to their being saved during a famine in order that Judah’s line may continue that the Messiah would be born as apart of that lineage. Not only do all things work together for good for those who love God but it all works good according to God’s purpose. God’s original plan from the get go must be and will be carried out.
@linus116
@linus116 Год назад
Amen and Amen
@Bugsy0333
@Bugsy0333 Год назад
The story goes ........ ? Is the story as it goes True Frank ? If so show us how ?
@thundermane362
@thundermane362 Год назад
Also, the greatest example is our Lord's suffering, crucifixion and death. Satan meant to destroy the Messiah. What he didn't realize is that he is doing exactly what God planned since the beginning so that we might be saved.
@Gek1177
@Gek1177 Год назад
So from the beginning God planned for Satan to sacrifice Jesus for the sins of the people God planned to sin from the beginning?
@Hoe-numan5
@Hoe-numan5 7 месяцев назад
​@@Gek1177 no ?
@kevinjypiter6445
@kevinjypiter6445 Год назад
Didn’t know Cristiano Ronaldo was Egyptian! Very cool! 😎
@soldierharam144
@soldierharam144 Год назад
I form the light, and create darkness:I make peace, and create evil:I the Lord do all these things. Isa.45.7AKJV
@soldierharam144
@soldierharam144 Год назад
See now that I, even I, am he,and there is no god with me:I kill, and I make alive;I wound, and I heal:neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. Deut.32.39AKJV
@intentionally-blank
@intentionally-blank 11 месяцев назад
The best example is Yeshua/Jesus murderous crucifixion and resurrection.
@garretthoefer3989
@garretthoefer3989 Год назад
I love the "ripple effect" of bad to good in light of Isaiah 55:8-9.. That's how big, smart and powerful our God is. Evil and horrible things that are allowed to happen (and we can't understand how God allows) will ultimately work for God's Will and for good because His knowledge, love, mercy, His ways are all above ours. Read Isaiah 55:8-9 and I guarantee it will help to increase your faith in God and give you comfort like it has me.
@RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217
False representation of the brothers of Joseph, they were of Shem, not Ham. I did not expect that from this channel, sigh.
@1206chaos
@1206chaos Год назад
God brought good out of evil when he saved this evil sinner.
@icarojose6316
@icarojose6316 Год назад
There is a song in Brazil, that says in the lyrics: The desert is the Lord’s school. I find this sentence so fitting in this. Every bad that happens to us, it’s a opportunity for us to make a Good out of it.
@Thyalwaysseek
@Thyalwaysseek Год назад
Jesus comes from the Tribe of Dan symbolized by the Eagle.
@sophielesher8002
@sophielesher8002 Год назад
nahhh not the ripple effect. this is not a biblical concept, it's more like karma. it implies that our actions dictate our fates of the world, not God's will
@jeremiahmathew6480
@jeremiahmathew6480 Год назад
Is there any evidence pointing to the Miracle of the Open Graves?
@mimitree1
@mimitree1 Год назад
Does anyone know the name of the movie from which the Joseph still shots were taken please?
@valerieprice1745
@valerieprice1745 Год назад
My favorite historical account in the Old Testament. Great example. 😊
@ogloc6308
@ogloc6308 Год назад
Glory to God
@eduardohoover2127
@eduardohoover2127 Год назад
We Adore You, O Christ, and We Bless You, Because by Your Cross You Have Redeemed the World!
@davethesid8960
@davethesid8960 10 месяцев назад
Were the intermediary images created by AI?
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley Год назад
Of course Yahweh can bring good out of evil but what is the evil doing there in the first place?
@Hoe-numan5
@Hoe-numan5 7 месяцев назад
Evil exist because of free will
@MastaE2288
@MastaE2288 Год назад
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Romans 8:28 KJV
@theperson4yearsago565
@theperson4yearsago565 Год назад
W.
@logicalatheist1065
@logicalatheist1065 Год назад
Not enough evidence to support Christianity, sorry Frankie boy.
@TraePeterson-y8s
@TraePeterson-y8s Год назад
Provide me an argument for your belief system.
@logicalatheist1065
@logicalatheist1065 Год назад
@@TraePeterson-y8s I believe lots of things, to call it a specific belief system wouldnt be right.
@logicalatheist1065
@logicalatheist1065 Год назад
@@TraePeterson-y8s can you be more specific?
@TraePeterson-y8s
@TraePeterson-y8s Год назад
Pleas excuse my improper use of words. Which is entirely your opinion not mine. But rather provide me an argument for the things you believe to be true. No more stalling. @@logicalatheist1065
@_newcreature
@_newcreature Год назад
This was so good
@jonlecroq7457
@jonlecroq7457 Год назад
Yes and Amen !
@Good-ke5tk
@Good-ke5tk Год назад
Good out of evil is God showing grace to those who don’t deserve grace and mercy. He saved while I was a sinner which is evil btw 🤔
@ItsInMyShortsvids
@ItsInMyShortsvids Год назад
0:15 I thought was his actual audience for a moment😂😂😂😂
@tTtt-ho3tq
@tTtt-ho3tq Год назад
What does he mean by " Selling him to slavery"?
@Hoe-numan5
@Hoe-numan5 7 месяцев назад
Yep that happened
@jonyivre4541
@jonyivre4541 Год назад
All Over the Bible.
@rodrigomachado9870
@rodrigomachado9870 Год назад
Loved the content, but too much AI generated images
@sumyunguy6894
@sumyunguy6894 Год назад
Didn’t know Benjamin adopted black kids
@Psalm1101
@Psalm1101 Год назад
Joseph
@GODSMISTAKE-j9k
@GODSMISTAKE-j9k Год назад
Why would you trust God he sends people to hell.
@Hoe-numan5
@Hoe-numan5 7 месяцев назад
No
@delicatedragonfly2604
@delicatedragonfly2604 Год назад
Can anybody tell me if the clips used in this video of Joseph are from a movie? I don’t think I’ve seen this particular one. Thank you 🙏🏼
@kinggenius930
@kinggenius930 Год назад
They look like AI generated art to me
@RangerRyke
@RangerRyke Год назад
Good things can come out of bad and bad things can come out of good.
@jermainroberts361
@jermainroberts361 Год назад
now sir you are speaking my language.. a person can be able to speak, sound articulate with confidence that does not mean they are making full comprehensive sense. allot of what frank does is just that. when you understand fully what ying and yang are, you will have no further question..
@RangerRyke
@RangerRyke Год назад
@@jermainroberts361 all people cherry pick, Apologists just have more of a nack for it lol
@thatomofolo452
@thatomofolo452 Год назад
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@dacia6247
@dacia6247 Год назад
Wow would love to see this ai movie you got going on here
@pjdelucala
@pjdelucala Год назад
The word "evil" is misunderstand. In Aramaic, the word for Evil means Unripe. If someone who spoke Aramaic 2000 years ago bit into an unripe apple, he would say "This apple is evil." Another way to look at the word evil is with the word "Ignorance" or "immaturity." Ignorant people do evil deeds. There is no inherent evil. In the Lord's Prayer, "Deliver us from evil means "Deliver us from ignorance." There is no such thing as inherent evil in the universe. Evil acts come from ignorance.
@Godlimate
@Godlimate Год назад
Despite that I applaud you for echoing some of the greatest philosophers to have existed, it seems mildly odd to say that ignorance and evil are one in the same. We do not inherently possess all knowledge of everything, which should therefore translate as an inherent evil, or at least, inherent evil to some degree. I can understand perhaps wilful ignorance as an evil, since it does not desire to know and that would cause rash decision-making. And conversely, if ignorance is evil, then knowledge is good, which I would not immediately recognise, for, we can use knowledge for evil deeds as well.
@pjdelucala
@pjdelucala Год назад
@@Godlimate It is ignorance of your true spiritual identity which causes evil deeds. Once you realize you are eternal spirit and your essence is LOVE, then doing evil deeds would not be a choice because you would not be filled with fear. Ignorance, creates the feeling of separation from source. It generates fear. The fear then causes evil acts. Carl Jung understood this idea well.
@Gek1177
@Gek1177 Год назад
​​@@pjdelucalaI really respect your argument and the way you made it but assuming that's true about what evil meant to the Aramaic speaking peoples of the past I'd argue that the distinction between evil and ignorant exists today for a reason.
@pjdelucala
@pjdelucala Год назад
@@Gek1177 Thank you so much Gek. I appreciate your comment. The word evil today usually implies an intrinsic quality sort of like monsters existing. Aliens is my favorite movie when it comes to inherent evil. An inherent evil means that the being cannot change. It doesn't serve anyone to think that way because it doesn't allow the possibility that someone "evil" can change either now or perhaps later when the die and are in spirit.
@icarojose6316
@icarojose6316 Год назад
How did you come to this conclusion ? And have you ever considered that you might be wrong ?
@MB-NC1967
@MB-NC1967 Год назад
Amen
@galacticcandycrumbs3245
@galacticcandycrumbs3245 Год назад
AI art uses a lot of dramatic lighting
@kinggenius930
@kinggenius930 Год назад
Sorry Frank, I don't have enough evidence to be a Christian
@henockgieskes8390
@henockgieskes8390 Год назад
Your choice
@kinggenius930
@kinggenius930 Год назад
@@henockgieskes8390 It's my choice to have insufficient evidence?
@CrixusHeart
@CrixusHeart Год назад
Does anyone know if the images used are from a movie? If so, can you tell me the name of it?
@mimitree1
@mimitree1 Год назад
I'd also like to know.
@willievanstraaten1960
@willievanstraaten1960 Год назад
Why are so many of the followers of the lords suffering all their life?
@TomMichael5678
@TomMichael5678 Год назад
Like your suffering Willie?
@willievanstraaten1960
@willievanstraaten1960 Год назад
@@TomMichael5678 @tommichael5678: “Like your suffering Willie?” Yes, and what would you think that suffering would be? Yours seemingly is superstition.
@TomMichael5678
@TomMichael5678 Год назад
@@willievanstraaten1960 That's quite apparent what your sufferings are, isn't it Willie? You may call mine 'superstition' but it leaves me nowhere in the decrepit state of mind of your sufferings.
@willievanstraaten1960
@willievanstraaten1960 Год назад
@@TomMichael5678 Tom Michael: “But it leaves me nowhere in the decrepit state of mind of your sufferings.” Your mental suffering must be severe, in knowing that you follow and worship the most evil, extremely jealous, egocentric, murdering, and bloodthirsty man-created deity of all man-invented deities. As you should know this is not my assumption. His immoral characteristics are clearly and repeatedly explained in the mythological fictional book they call the Bible.
@TomMichael5678
@TomMichael5678 Год назад
@@willievanstraaten1960 Well Willie, that wasn't very hard to show you the depraved state your mind has consigned itself too. In two short paragraphs you've manged to spew the vitriol that wallows in that cranium, against what you don't even believe to be true. And your sufferings can't get much clearer than that. Thanks Willie, you're priceless...
@JamesSullivan-ru4op
@JamesSullivan-ru4op Год назад
I needed this.
@Joy-hk3iv
@Joy-hk3iv Год назад
Mr frank please listen to the question fully to the end even though you got it in the half way
@ricklamb772
@ricklamb772 Год назад
Oh,it's in there.Itvgoesclikecthis ,what Satan created for evil,God can turn it around for good.Much as Jesus dieing on the cross,it was perceived as an evil attack on Jesus,but was in fact victory over sin,so people could be saved through His sacrifice.Good coming out of evil.
@unbelievablepancake
@unbelievablepancake Год назад
This guy needs to look into Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
@purplemav
@purplemav Год назад
That isn’t what is says… THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS: Isaiah 45:7 (NKJV) I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the Lord, do all these things.’ An example of Calamity caused by God is when he flooded the entire earth…it’s not referring to evil.
@trick7039
@trick7039 Год назад
​@@purplemavRead the actual Hebrew. The verse uses the word "רָ֑ע" pronounced "Rā". This word means bad, evil, unpleasant, painful and misery. Calamity is "בַּלָּהָה" pronounced "ballahah". No where in the original Hebrew does it use ballahah or any variation of the word like balah in Isaiah 45:7. If you compare the text to Isaiah 17:14, you can clearly see the difference in context, too. In this case, the Hebrew word for calamity, terror, or destruction is used - "balah," as I just mentioned. Therefore, Isaiah 45:7 most definitely says that God creates evil. There is no ambiguity about it. It's simply highlighting the translation problems that the KJV and many other translations get wrong and why there's so much misunderstanding and infighting between Christians.
@unbelievablepancake
@unbelievablepancake Год назад
@@purplemav in this verse it actually IS referring to evil. Our theological understanding of God MUST include all scripture. This verse does not claim God is evil, but rather a better picture of what it means for God to be sovereign over all things. No need to run from this verse or to try to dismiss it away.
@trick7039
@trick7039 Год назад
@@unbelievablepancake I like that you're more honest about it, but let's not kid ourselves here. Isaiah 45:7 and the many other verses in the Bible, similar to it, bring the entire notion of an omnibenevolent God into question. Verses like this are exactly why there is such a massive divide across denominations and its also a huge contributor as to why so many atheists don't think the biblical God is a "good" God with our best intentions in mind. Just food for thought. The issues are never as simple as they appear. Sometimes, there isn't actually a good answer, and you just have to live with that fact or do some mental gymnastics to make it work out. The choice is yours. But don't expect others to follow your lead when they think your reasoning is flawed.
@unbelievablepancake
@unbelievablepancake Год назад
@@trick7039 it's true -it's very confusing. However, while it may be difficult to grasp, it's a worthwhile journey to wrap our heads around the truth that God is always good, and cannot sin (go against his own rules), and uses evil to accomplish his purposes. God does not do things that are evil, but allows the to exist, and even will SEND bad and terrible things (like the Babylonian armies). When people don't grasp that a perfect, good, and just, God created evil, allowing it to exist, and uses it for good, then people come into extreme conflict when they face difficult situations. They are told there is such a separation from God and evil that what they read and what they experience don't mesh. The Bible doesn't teach that, and we do an ultimate disservice in trying to dodge it because it's a complex and nuanced discussion. But I do agree that it is a charged discussion.
@puppyupper4565
@puppyupper4565 Год назад
Romans 8:28 does not say that All things work together for good. The wages of sin is death. When you sin, it does not work together for good. When I became born again I started reading Romans. I got to Romans 8:28 and read it and God said NO!. I did not understand. It clearly says what it says. And God said NO!. So, I looked it up in Greek. It says, When you are actively loving God (not just in your heart) and called according to HIS purpose, He will make what you are doing work together for good. It is a promise so that when all Hell comes against you because you are actively loving Jesus that He will make it good. But He does not make our sin work out for good. Sin is death. No good thing in it.
@Nicky-hr1qz
@Nicky-hr1qz Год назад
The Bible does say God works all things together it doesn't mean everything we're going through is good the Bible does infect say all things work together God works all things together for the good what the devil meant for evil God turned around and made good their Bible does say that
@Nicky-hr1qz
@Nicky-hr1qz Год назад
Every translation the message has never changed the message of the gospel and the historical events regardless of language and translation has never changed
@puppyupper4565
@puppyupper4565 Год назад
@@Nicky-hr1qz That's garbage. The JW translation of the bible changes the message of the gospel. So do other translations. But I didn't address that. I never claimed a mistranslation of Romans 8:28 changes the message of the gospel. I have no idea why you brought it up but still you are wrong. I hate being wrong. Don't you?
@Nicky-hr1qz
@Nicky-hr1qz Год назад
@@puppyupper4565 know what you are saying is garbage it's obviously you're not born again I'm going to call you out right now you are not a born-again Christian you don't even have a clue what it means to be born again Born Again means you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ you don't ever deny the truth of the word of God he deny any part of the Bible you are definitely not a born-again Believer we know him personally our names are written in the Book of Life not because we're good but because he's good what's garbage is what you believe you're pushing a gospel that can't save you you're taking things out of context misunderstanding scripture you should keep your mouth shut and learn the truth
@Nicky-hr1qz
@Nicky-hr1qz Год назад
@@puppyupper4565 every translation every language is the same message the message of the Gospel has never changed neither has the historical events you are lying for your teeth I bind you get out of here Satan you are lying you do not know the truth
@johnpaullaizure7330
@johnpaullaizure7330 Год назад
0:15 Judah was not black. only the descendants of Ham were, Judah was a descendant of Shem.... 1:20 "The bloodline of the Messiah"? Christ shared no DNA with Joseph or Mary, he was conceived immaculately... Is this some heretic nonsense I'm too Catholic to understand? 1:27 The Egyptians were not black....DNA proves this...there were no black rulers like this picture....even their own pictures and paintings in Egypt today from the pyramids show themselves as NOT being black...they had a few black slaves that was it...
@jimyost2585
@jimyost2585 Год назад
Some of you might find this to be interesting: I wrote the following comment in reply to a RU-vid video posted by "Pastor" Vlad, titled: "The Dark Side Of Being A RU-vidr." I wrote it to expose where he is at spiritually, but I think what I wrote fits equally well in reply to this video. Anyway, here's my comment: There is a wide range of difference between being a RU-vidr and being a religious RU-vidr, as all of the religious RU-vidrs have been taken over by kingdom of darkness religious spirits, whereas people posting videos about such things as gardening, motorcycle racing, 'How-to-fix-it' videos, cooking videos, nature videos, music videos, health and nutrition videos, news videos about current events, etc., aren't targeted by those spirits. Vlad is a quintessential example of a person who has been taken over by a religious spirit who is using him as a human mouthpiece. The Philippian girl of Acts chapter sixteen (in the King James Version) is a good example of how it plays out. Everything she said was 100% correct, and was 100% the truth, but it was a religious spirit using her as a human mouthpiece. In case you don't already know, the religious spirits are the highest echelon of warrior/foot-soldier demons in the kingdom of darkness hierarchy who are meticulously groomed by the kingdom of darkness overlords (aka principalities/fallen angels) to know how to mimic the Holy Spirit (and some of them can be very convincing). The religious spirits are given an anointing by the principalities to have the power to anesthetize people into a sort of semi-hypnotic state, which causes them to be overly receptive to what is being said by the false teacher or false prophet. This is true mainly of people who fail to discern what is happening to them as they listen to false teachers and false prophets, and fail to challenge the deception and to resist the control. In that semi-hypnotic state the religious spirits move on them to give them feelings of spirituality, self-satisfaction, comfort, and being convinced that they've done their duty. The principalities also move on them to have spiritual unity with the false teacher or false prophet, and to have a strong desire to be loyal to them, and to give them their support (spiritually, ego-wise, financially, et al), so that the connection becomes addictive and causes the person to want to throw roses at the false ones, as praising the false one makes them feel better about themselves (which is really all they care about). You can tell by reading the comments people post in reply to practically any religious RU-vid video that this is the case. It's a widespread phenomenon among people who flock to the false teachers and false prophets who are being driven by religious spirits to be continually posting religious videos on RU-vid. It is quite evident that the large majority of the people posting comments to the religious videos never read the Bible and therefore have no spiritual measuring stick with which to compare the true with the false, plus most of them have a weak relationship with the Holy Spirit (or no relationship with him at all), which makes them feel guilty inside, and the discomfort of the guilt causes them to want to do religious things to compensate for it, and one of the easiest ways for them to accomplish it is to run to 'professionals' to do for them what they should be doing for themselves spiritually. So it becomes a never ending self-feeding curse kind of thing. With that being said, in a certain sense the false teachers and false prophets are merely providing a service. RU-vid is literally awash with them. There isn't one person posting religious videos on RU-vid who speaks by the anointing of the Holy Spirit. I've been looking for such a person on RU-vid for a long time and I haven't found the first one yet. It's all very sad.
@SoulHydron
@SoulHydron Год назад
That just sounds made up. Demons cant speak truth, only lies, they twist the truth for the Bible says the truth sets us free, literally opposite of what the enemy wants. The girl you refer to in Acts doesn't even have anything to do with truth or lies necessarily. It says she has a divination spirit, relating to witchcraft, which means she was able to tell the future. I dont think the scripture has any mention of her trying to decieve/help people from God or twisting/telling truth about scripture. Claiming that Vlad is somehow helping the enemy when we clearly see him speaking from scripture and teaching the exact same truths that you, I, or any pastor would tell and he's literally debating against atheists to try to get them to realize the truth... we know how Jesus said that a house divided against itself cannot stand and it wouldnt make sense for the enemy to fight itself. What makes more sense is that YOU are the one trying to decieve people from coming to Jesus by both twisting scripture and undermining God's reach on youtube by verbally attacking his workers.
@jimyost2585
@jimyost2585 Год назад
@@SoulHydron ~ You're delusional, and quite likely demon possessed yourself, seeing as how everything you just wrote is the ranting of a religious spirit. One thing I've learned over many years of exposing false teachers and false prophets is that whenever I post a comment that makes a lot of people angry I know that I've hit the nail on the head. Another thing I've learned about exposing false teachers and false prophets is that when I challenge one of them, the first person to come running to their defense will be someone who is indwelt by the same genre of religious spirit as the one driving the false one they jumped up to defend. I've seen it more times than I care to remember. One thing that characterizes the ranting of an angry religious spirit is that they overplay their hand and end up going into a measure of confusion, as can be seen in your vapid reply. It is always unfortunate for the person who allows themself to be used as a human mouthpiece by a religious spirit, as he will work slowly over time to replace the person's thinking and personality with his own, so that over a long period of time the person becomes sort of a mirror image of the demon himself, after which there is never any love in anything they say or do. I could give you some advice about how to get free from the demon controlling you, but the way that plays out is that the demon won't allow for the person to receive any instruction of that nature, plus he moves on them to take personal offense at the suggestion that there could be something wrong with them. So they remain stuck under his control, maybe for the rest of their life. It's all very sad.
@TomMichael5678
@TomMichael5678 Год назад
- *"There isn't one person posting religious videos on RU-vid who speaks by the anointing of the Holy Spirit."* - How will you recognize a person anointed with the Holy Spirit on RU-vid? Are you anointed with the Holy Spirit?
@jimyost2585
@jimyost2585 Год назад
@@TomMichael5678 ~ You asked me two questions, the first one being: "How will you recognize a person anointed with the Holy Spirit on RU-vid?" My answer is that there is no such person posting videos on RU-vid. I know of a few Christian songs posted on RU-vid in which the Holy Spirit showed up, but not very many. Your second question is "Are you anointed with the Holy Spirit?" My answer to that is sometimes I am, but not very often, especially during times of no outpouring of the Holy Spirit (as in this day and time). But during the last two outpourings of the Holy Spirit the Lord gave me powerful anointings of the Holy Spirit numerous times. But I've never have had a perpetual abiding anointing of the Holy Spirit. Personally, I don't think even the apostles had that. It could be that the Apostle John had it all the time, but from the things written in scripture about him it's impossible to tell. But all of his writings make me think that there's a good chance that he had an abiding anointing of the Holy Spirit. Jesus is the only person who had it all the time, per John 3:34 in the King James Version.
@TomMichael5678
@TomMichael5678 Год назад
@@jimyost2585 How have you come to the conclusion that there is no such person who has the Holy Spirit posting videos on RU-vid? Also, when was the last time you were anointed with the Holy Spirit and what was the outcome of that powerful anointing?
@pjdelucala
@pjdelucala Год назад
Christ is the eternal power. It is a consciousness available to all. Jesus was the pattern of Christ Consciousness. Thus Christ and Jesus were one. Thus Jesus was The Christ; inseparable. Christ means love. It is a love energy available to all people who lived 50,000 years ago, or who never heard of Jesus. Jesus was the messenger. When you believe in Christ, you are really believing in love. The Christ Consciousness is in you. It is that simple and rational. Thank Jesus for showing you the way. The way is to be like Jesus. There are no short-cuts. Practice love. That was his commandment. That was his message. If you ignore his commandment, you are ignoring Jesus. That is the way.
@logicalatheist1065
@logicalatheist1065 Год назад
The brainwashing is strong with this one...
@cnault3244
@cnault3244 Год назад
"Where Does the Bible Say That God Can Bring Good Out of Evil?" The Bible tells us god claims he is responsible for evil.
@Nicky-hr1qz
@Nicky-hr1qz Год назад
Go back and rewatch again and this time LISTEN ACTIVELY
@cnault3244
@cnault3244 Год назад
@@Nicky-hr1qz As I stated, the Bible tells us god claims he is responsible for evil. Read the Bible.
@T0Mmichael1234
@T0Mmichael1234 Год назад
@@cnault3244 And your point?
@AFFL1CTED1
@AFFL1CTED1 Год назад
@@cnault3244 I copypasta'ed this from "Got Questions": If everything God created was good (Genesis 1:31; 1 Timothy 4:4; James 1:17), why does Isaiah 45:7 say God created evil? The Hebrew word translated as “evil” (ra‘) in the King James Version of Isaiah 45:7 has two applications in the Bible. The term can be used in the sense of moral evil, such as wickedness and sin (Matthew 12:35; Judges 3:12; Proverbs 8:13; 3 John 1:11), or it can refer to harmful natural events, calamity, misfortune, adversity, affliction, or disaster. It is in this second sense that Isaiah speaks, and his meaning is reflected in most modern Bible translations of Isaiah 45:7 (emphasis added): “I make success and create disaster” (HCSB); “I make well-being and create calamity” (ESV); “I send good times and bad times” (NLT). tldr; the Hebrew word used is more appropriately translated as "disaster."
@cnault3244
@cnault3244 Год назад
@@T0Mmichael1234 If the Bible is true, and god claims he is responsible for evil, god is immoral.
@michelangelope830
@michelangelope830 Год назад
I am a psychologist and economist and I may know something that you don't. Is it possible to believe it is impossible to be wrong believing? God exists because something can not be created from nothing, however the concept of religion is so absurd and ridiculous that I would not waste my time explaining the obvious. Having said that atheists still think i am religious. Is it possible to reason with humanity? God is something real capable of creating the universe from an eternal existence. God is the solution to all the problems and i know how to end poverty in the world. Much of the gdp (gross domestic product) is what i call "destroy to make" economy. Could humanity house all the homeless with all the palaces destroyed in wars in history? Could humanity live in all the castles and palaces destroyed in wars along history? I am a poet that writes prose to be understood better. All my work is poetry. If I am punished in the corner looking to the wall I can not do miracles. To end the war in Ukraine the discovery that atheism is a logical fallacy has to be news. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. I hope for God's sake to be understood. Is it sharing truthful information that save lives asking much to end the lie? I don't know much, but I know what I know, and I have lived long enough to know Nobel Prizes are given to friends and family and people don't care. How would you overcome the most severe and devastating censorship in history in a social media era for many years trying giving everything I got to save lives with knowledge? It is important that you understand I am not asking you to agree with me and I am censored. God created the universe from self and reality is a miracle by nature impossible to understand.
@logicalatheist1065
@logicalatheist1065 Год назад
You are religious... you made that very clear Atheism is not a logical fallacy, that makes no sense Do you have any evidence of a god creating anything? A-theism just means to not believe in gods. A position of disbelief
@Theo_Skeptomai
@Theo_Skeptomai Год назад
How did you determine the universe was created?
@milespuchner2501
@milespuchner2501 Год назад
Having a "shady character" in the bloodline of the Messiah does not prove the bible's validity lol. Once again, people are reaching for anything to confirm what they were taught at birth.
@incredulouspasta3304
@incredulouspasta3304 Год назад
The "ripple effect" goes both ways. How did you determine that the good stuff is the result of God's plan, and not the bad stuff? This is just confirmation bias in action.
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 Год назад
Your negative comments to Frank are your bias from your unbelief in action.
@milespuchner2501
@milespuchner2501 Год назад
@@festushaggen2563 What they said wasn't a negative comment, in fact, it was rather neutral in tone.
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 Год назад
@@milespuchner2501 He made an assumption and followed it up with an accusation. Nothing neutral about that. He also does this regularly and has for years. It's gotten to the point of being predictable now.
@incredulouspasta3304
@incredulouspasta3304 Год назад
@@festushaggen2563 How do you know that the good stuff is the result of God's plan, and not the bad stuff?
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 Год назад
@@incredulouspasta3304 What bad stuff? Didn't we discuss that recently? Tread lightly.
@CounterApologeticsWithNara
@CounterApologeticsWithNara Год назад
If you are omnipotent and can literally do anything, that means you can do the good without the evil . if you still choose to do the evil, then you must like a lil evil.
@josiahserrano6651
@josiahserrano6651 Год назад
But what if allowing the evil to happen is the only way even if God is all powerful the fact that God chose to let the evil happen suggest that something more worse could have happen. God's does not like evil, he is against evil. Its against his Holy character, even though God hates all evil he sometimes uses evil to complete his purposes. Like for example the jealousy of the Pharisees caused the crucifixion of Jesus but If God hadn't allowed the jealousy in the Pharisees hearts to grow, then Jesus won't die and no one will be substitute for our sins. Thus no Salvation.
@EternalLight111
@EternalLight111 Год назад
@@josiahserrano6651 No, God permits evil to happen because He wants us to have free will to choose our own side. God could easily make robots with no free will and never let evil happen, but them we can't love God willingly- which unwilling love isn't even love.
@EternalLight111
@EternalLight111 Год назад
God is only good, He is Good. He determines what is good and evil. He is the absolute moral standard to which we measures ourselves to. God never does evil. Just because God allows evil doesn't mean He did it. God uses the evil done by others for the glory of His own purposes, things to only be good and to help us- not hurt us.
@CounterApologeticsWithNara
@CounterApologeticsWithNara Год назад
@@josiahserrano6651 If god could not make it happen any other way then he is not all powerful. If he could make it happen another way but chose to leave the evil in, then he must have wanted the evil to happen along with the good outcome. Which means he is not ALL good.
@CounterApologeticsWithNara
@CounterApologeticsWithNara Год назад
@@josiahserrano6651 God could have left the whole killing Jesus thing out. He chose blood sacrifice and torture. He's god, He could forgive us for our sins in any way he wanted to. He chose death mutilation and torture.
@macmac1022
@macmac1022 Год назад
People of all kinds please state if your christian or muslim, atheists, agnostics or any combination of those and then if willing participate in the test. As well, looking for 5 good moral theist questions for atheists/agnostics. #1 You see a child drowning in a shallow pool and notice a person just watching that is able to save the child with no risk to themselves but is not, is that persons non action moral? #2 If you go to save the child, the man tells you to stop as he was told it was for the greater good, but he does not know what that is, do you continue to save the child? #3 Is it an act of justice to punish innocent people for the crimes of others? #4 If you were able to stop it and knew a person was about to grape a child would you stop it? #5 Would you consider a parent who put their kids in a room with a poison fruit and told the kids not to eat it but then also put the best con artist in the room with the children knowing the con artist will get the kids to eat the fruit and the parent does nothing to stop it a good parent?
@josiahserrano6651
@josiahserrano6651 Год назад
Christian: 1# what if the child is adult adolf Hitler who had already committed Genocide would you save him?
@josiahserrano6651
@josiahserrano6651 Год назад
Christian: 5# i think you are referring to the Garden of Eden, first of all adam and eve were not kids they are grown adults and they are told do not eat of this fruit. The fruit isn't the poison, disobedience was. By disobeying there eyes were opened to evil. The fruit is nothing special its jsut a regular old fruit. Adam and Eve had other apples to eat, why would they eat this one, they were given clear instructions.
@macmac1022
@macmac1022 Год назад
@@Disciple793 >>A Christian here."" Ok. >> I'll pose a question to you."" Ok, can you answer mine too though? >> From the moment you bring your child home from the hospital you give your child whatever he or she needs and wants."' Needs yes, wants depend on the want. If the child wants to drink a cleaner or eat a tide tablet, I am not going to give that to the child. If the child wants a hug, I have no problem with that. >> No is not in your vocabulary. "" Ohhh, this is a hypothetical thing, I best read it all the way through before responding then. Sorry about that, this is just often the way I operate. >> Finally, your child reaches adulthood and is thrusted into the world to make of life for himself or herself. Have you been a loving parent?"" Dont know, you did not give any information to be able to tell. Some parents do really love their children and cant say no to them, they do love them though. >> Think about the possible scenarios that might have brought death to your child every time you didn't say no."" Like the examples I say above. >> God disciplines his children out of love. He understands that His children will make mistakes, but he will not abandon them, though at times He must take a step back to let them go their own way."' I dont think the drowning child is asking to drown, I dont think the raped child is asking to be raped. This in no way addresses my questions. I think it would be best if you answer my questions and see where they lead.
@macmac1022
@macmac1022 Год назад
@@josiahserrano6651 >>Christian: "" Ok. >>1# what if the child is adult adolf Hitler who had already committed Genocide would you save him?"" ??????? No, but the child in my question is not hitler. Follow up questions are allowed, but please make sure they are decent questions. Now can you answer my questions or not?
@josiahserrano6651
@josiahserrano6651 Год назад
@@macmac1022 1# Is God wrong for killing person? 2# Is God wrong to let someone suffer in order for others to not? 3# Is God wrong to do what ever he wants? If you were given a choice? Would you let 1 suffer in order so that two or even millions would not suffer eternal suffering?
@GENESIS.50-20
@GENESIS.50-20 Год назад
HEllo. Read this
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