And they didn't try subterfuge to say the best score is with a lower product during that segment either. Some other competitors might have tried some shenanigans.
Me. Looks at 3900x living in my Crosshair 6, with loving eyes. Also me. Looks at 5950, and thinks, " Yeah, that's definitely my next wife"... In a year or so when it costs less. All hail Lisa Su, Goddess of the threads! She said it would be so, and Lo! It is!...
That one must have hurt Intel engineers watching soooo bad. At at first they probably were like "Huh, we can match them next gen, no problem", but then their souls just left their bodies.
Yep, it sure is! 😀 The CPU landscape for AMD when they didn't have Ryzen yet was pretty terrible. The jump from my old FX-6300 to a R5 1600 was amazing. Still chews any game you throw at it in 1080p. 👌😎
@@UrboyJDH Nope. Even the base ps4 is way more powerful than the switch. Proof that people dont buy the switch for power, if thats not already clear to you.
The engineers and support staff at AMD don't get nearly as much credit for AMD's recent successes so here's a big "GOOD JOB!" from me for the thousands of hours of really hard work.
Pre recorded, so it better be. It does look super fancy, they got the curved screen, smoke machines, reflective floor and beautiful slides that tied everything together. Though the most impressive was Zen3 obviously.
Bro it’s a fuckin billio dollar company. Get a grip, they don’t give a duck about you it’s always about money. If there was no competition then AMD or Intel would just milk us dry and throttle innovation more than they already are.
So TLDR: • 19% IPC increase and $50 increase for all CPUs across the board • 5900x is the first to hit 600+ points in cinebench • Basically makes intel irrelevant for both price and performance • Nov 5 release • 400 series mobos won't get the required BIOS to support Zen 3 until Jan 2021 • no bike announcement
@@FRSpartan it's just one game. And IT'S 100$ CHEAPER. Also it will be better with a tinny tiny update. Your point? And 3% won't even be humanly noticed.
@@FRSpartan (Assuming this test are legitimately) How can be rilevant if perform worst in 1 of 10 game tested and AMD perform better in all aspect. it's like compare a Ford Fiesta and a Ferrari and say Fiesta is rilevant because has better mileage
I wouldn't say irrelevant. Both companies release products several months apart, which means its an endless cycle of this side is better than the other side is better rinse and repeat.
Neither of them are engineer, musk dont even entered any engineering program. With rich father's money he directly entered tech market. Jobs not even completed one sem. She has a doctorate for God sake, comparing her to them is foolishness. Vision and marketing is different from academia, she is gem from both end
AMD: "Great performance, faster than Intel and only 105W." Intel: releasing new 12-core CPU, 30% more expensive @200W+ and saying "It's unfair from AMD to use representative benchmarks." xDDDDDDD
What this lady has done for the industry and consumers is a short time is inspirational. Her and AMD have changed the entire landscape not just for gaming. It just goes to show that wanting to be better, to be the best pays off more than greed and being comfortable. One of the best examples of a turn around in recent times.
@@hishmithvvardhan5809 she had a large part of bring out the best in talented engineers. We know the engineers make the product but would zen be here is Lisa was not ? No hate
I know right. When Lisa Su joined AMD, everything has been going really well for them. Really appreciate her hard work and of course all the work from the engineers at AMD that helped disrupt the market so people don't have to pay 350$ for 4 core 8 threaded cpus.
I mean, I think it's a very smart marketing tactic, to downplay the difference a bit, so when 3rd party benchmarks are out, it will be even better than promised. It has a fresh feeling and makes you want to buy it even more.
To be frank.... this is the fourth year of the same core\$ ratio. It's basically been almost like Sandy>Ivy>Haswell>Skylake in terms of node shrinks. So AMD isn't really... doing anything that Intel hasn't done before. If Zen 4 doesn't change the core\$ status quo - people might start joking about the octacore stagnation of AMD.
You missed the point. The difference in IPC gained, overall performance and efficiently of the processor from first to forth gen is significant. Unlike Intel...
@@Wrathinside 7nn 64 core 128 threads EPYC Rome 7H12 at 280 watts, Threadripper 3990x 64 core 128 threads also 280 watts, and the Ryzen 9 3950x 16 core 32 thread at 105 watts. Meanwhile an i9 10900k is consuming as much power as a 64 core server class cpu.
Lisa Su is a freaking prophet. The way she managed to completely turn around a company on the brink of death is just amazing. And now look at where AMD is, completely annihilating any and all competition in the CPU landscape.
@@moodman1151 still it is way more efficient for most common tasks/instructions people use on low end devices and that's why it's mostly used in the low end market
because it doesn't need to, there is not a single video game benchmark out there that shows amd in front on fps, unless it's been a background rigged to favour AMD....
Lmao that's for tiger lake laptops and we don't know for sure about intel's 11th gen desktop CPUs having thunderbolt 4 capabilities (same goes for AMD in laptops)
LOL. I have already saw few posts in forums and social media with statements like "almost here but AMD still a little behind in games" and screenshots from this presentation cut down to show only this -3% on Battlefield V
@@ItssMitch well, when Intel was ahead in gaming the amd fanboys said that the small performance boost wouldn't justify the higher price. And now suddenly, paying 300 bucks for a 5600x looks like a good deal to them. Don't you see that AMD is copying Intel's price policy, that y'all AMD fanboys we're hating on before?
Thank you AMD Thank you for changing the CPU and soon the GPU market Thank you for making other companies offer more for less price Thank you for not fearing failure Thank you for beneficiating us customers Thank you for not being greedy and being honest with us Rise up AMD, thanks so much. - Every Gamer PC costumer
I am not sure if they will change the GPU market. NVIDIA is not sitting on their but, like INTEL does. If big navi is going to be amazing then NVIDIA is definitely going to pick the gauntlet and fight back. Maybe they will finally make decent drivers for linux.
Amd didnt kill intel. Amd 5800x 8c/16t $450 Amd 5600x 6c/12t $350 Intel 10700 8c/16t $320 Intel is the cheaper option especially for gamers. To get 8 cores you have to pay $450 for amd to get it,whereas intel has it for way cheaper. Spend thr extra cash on a better gpu.
Chinese people dont like number four. Its something to do with death. 1 is birth, 2 is something, 3 is something and 4 is death. I went to Taiwan and on the lift in a hotel I stayed. There is no level 4. My friend that lives in Taipei told me that.
@@masterandy07 Ah, well, as a Vietnamese aka another Asian culture, we also have something similar to it. Maybe that will work here *1 is birth, 2, is getting old, 3 is illness, and 4 is death.* Note: If I recall it right, most Asians don't use the number 4 too much. I think this is a common thing in Asian cultural beliefs
LOL @Andy do @ Tường they just skipped 4000 desktop series to avoid confusion with their mobile 4000 series especially to not repeat their big mistake in naming when their r3 3100 is faster than their r5 3400g despite being placed lower in the stack due to former processor having zen2 cores while the latter have zen+
Thank you Lisa Su and of course the engineers at AMD for bringing competition to the market, I can't thank you enough for bringing 6, 8 and even 16 core cpus to the main stream consumer market, I am more than thankful that I can get a 4 core 8 threaded cpu for 100$ instead of paying 350$.
@@salazarz3u556 bicycles don't need electricity apart from a bit for lighting. Those other things aren't bicycles but simply electric low power motorbikes
@Brad Hilton If that is really the 256bit GDDR6 GPU... that really is excellent, the question remains, is there a 6000 series GPU equivalent to the CPUs 5950X that isn't mentioned yet, and .... I think that the answer is all signs point to yes. This is a tease just to show that AMD can beat/match a 3080 which is what many where aiming for getting. Also... that's prelaunch drivers... so its to be expected that it will go up a bit.
Intel Chief Performance Strategist: Real World Performance must be measured in Battlefield with an overclocked Intel CPU on a 1000W chiller, and an AMD CPU with a single stick of 2133 RAM and a stock cooler
It’s amazing what this woman and her staff achieved. To ryze like that when you lie beaten on the ground and bring a giant to his knees, this usually simply doesn’t happen. Now we need this for Windows.
Amen brother. Linux gaming is making huuuuuuuge strides though, with proton. You can play direct x 9/10/11 with a direct translation to Vulkan. I was playing Resident Evil 3 remake last night, at 120+ fps, utilizing vulkan, and it's pretty easy to set up. The horizon is near!! Praise Gaben!!
@@kgonepostl Ah yes, Linux gaming and year of the Linux desktop, both will arrive in current year + 1. Lmao. Linux has to first be usable for the average grandma for its 'gaming strides' to matter in the first place. Not to mention the community needs to improve, it's a goddamn shitstain, and if you try to seek help, you get flamed for not knowing how to use an incredibly arbitrary OS (that for some reason lacks CFG to this day) that hasn't ever been relevant in the desktop space, so you are essentially blamed for having common sense. At least, that was my experience, and that was the experience of most people I've talked about who have tried Linux and have come back crawling to Windows.
That moment where AMD Said the PC Performance was STUCK TILL Ryzen came, explains 100% the Feeling of every Gamer, beeing Ripped off by Intel from 2013-2017 because there was not Alternativ! now we got it!
3000 series jumped up in price, and 5000 will jump up more, the 5900 cpu is at 9900k pricing now, on performance AMD are indeed making impressive gains for each gen, but now they have caught up on gaming (they were still behind on 3000 series) the quesiton is will they continue this pace onto zen 4, or will they also stagnate, we will find out out when zen 4 is done.
@@zijkhal8356 yea but then again there's still the third gen ryzen if you didn't have the money. Also the price jump is tolerable seeing the performance. Intel on the other hand, they haven't made that much improvement for years now.
@@zijkhal8356 well not really cause if the "midrange Ryzen5" you get to day a more Performant CPU then Intel gave you with a Core-I-7 5000/6000 in 2016 and you pay much less then that, you need to remember till 2016 - 4 Core 8 Thread was the standard for "highclass gaming" now 4 years later 4 Core 8 Threads is the lower Midrange.
@@Boss-674 it’s not lol everyone is saying various things relating her and how they are happy guess what vaginal birth is stolen breathing is stolen lol oh what’s that you have legs?? Walking is also stolen like whaaa?
5nm is not actually 5nm. it's just a marketing term for new generations because transistors can't actually physically reach this nano size. 5nm TSMC is equivalent to 7nm Intel. Actually Intel's 7nm is superior to 5nm TSMC. I still hope TSMC will maintain a lead on Intel so AMD maintains it's lead.
@@axumitedessalegn3549 it's actually unfair for Intel engineers having a bunch of global foundries equipment that has barely changed from 2013. But they have remained relevant just improving their lithography and not changing it and they have been able to successfully maintain decent temps on a 300w nail sized chip something that amd is far behind
@@cestarianinhabitant5898 The truth is that Intel destroyed Intel by delaying 10nm by 3 years. If they had enough 10nm capacity to do Tiger Lake on the desktop things would look different.
Why's that? You only want one company making good processors so they can have the monopoly of it and increase the prices? Jesus Christ... I want Intel to make cheaper and better performance chips so I can decide whether I go with AMD or Intel. No fanboy-ism here.
@@sailorbob74133 You think they delayed it just for fun? Incompetence is what destroyed them, they got too comfortable in their monopoly and let progress grind to a halt, now they're paying the price for their sloth and greed.
@@Versuffe it's funny because even on SPONSORED by Intel video's, he often mentions it's not actually the best choice, and it's a real punch to Intel every time >_>
Pls, open your authorized distributor in Indonesia. Here in Indonesia, AMD's processors usually priced 20-50% more than worldwide's SRP. The higher tier, the higher price difference from the rest of the world :( Sorry english not good
I mean to be fair in that regard amd isn't much better than intel intel lasts 2 gens and AMD 2 or 3(like it's the same socket but not compatible), not to impressive, they do offer more features which is nice and their performance will hopefully be better this gen. And I hope they finally do really well in the gpu market, nvidia messed up big time so if AMD does things right now they could profit a lot from that.
@@tilburg8683 the thing that does is allow rolling upgrades. Year 1 you upgrade the cpu. Year 2 you upgrade the gpu year 3 you upgrade the mobo/ram year 4 is cpu etc
This video made me feel like I just watched a person die today. That person being Intel. I feel kind of dirty with that second barrage of “wamp, wamp” sounds.
@@WarpPal from a german reseller store we know, that the R5 3600 outsold intels entire last 2gens together, thats one cpu vs 2 entire generations from there competitor and if ~250-300 million units of cpu´s are nothing to care about, then i dont know if intel is even using there brains...
intel always make more money from enterprise hardware. all pcs in my office is intel. never underestimate the very inventors of microprocessors. AMD is doing brilliantly I love the competition.
lul people be mad that 5900x really has a -3% performance in Battlefield V against the 10900k yet they don't realize it's being released $100 cheaper than the 10900k
Intel's 6700k is still sold with ~250 euros, while amd brings a brand new architecture starting at 299. This time i will upgrade my 6000 intel and it won't be team blue again.
@@srinathshettigar379 The EUV node is very expensive because the process is much slower. There is computing shortages at every level currently, so while I get your curiosity I'm glad that AMD went with only kicking Intel in the gonads once but focused on high volume production while staying affordable.
If amd keeps winning for to long or become to much better then intek they will eventually stop inovating and start doing the same thing intel does. I don't care whether amd or intel wins what I want is for them to stay competitive forcing them to inovate more/faster.
yes, and yet again Intel CPU will show higher fps....... yet again AMD loud mouthing "we won" and yet an ancient 14nm CPU fucks them in the ass in ANY game you load up...... I wouldn't be so confident about my brand new car when my grandpa can beat me with his old tweaked hunk a junk....
@@delta22ization with how much intel stagnated their innovation by milking their 14nm chips so much, i would expect them to do so well too. I'll take the brand new car with all the comforts of a modern vehicle over your grandpa's who-knows-how-old junk whose sole purpose is to win races.
@@delta22ization Except that before this presentation AMD had never claimed to have the fastest gaming processor in the world. It's also funny that your dumbass forgets they also have MASSIVE leads multicore performance and performance-per-watt. Seriously, stop being an idiot.
I just really hope that Lisa is good and can fight off greedy corporate and keep the value of Ryzen! Otherwise, AMD will replace Intel and if they Intel comes back like AMD, in 8 years, AMD might not survive after that. Intel is a much bigger company and they can throw a lot of money at problems. :(
The moral is you have to keep innovating and hide your innovations or supercharge for them until your opponent gets big enough otherwise if you innovate and get your opponent bankrupt you will be eventually split, and if you don't innovate this happens as you say
I am Happy to be a True fan of AMD for over 30 yrs when I started building my computers with AMD since the K6 then the K7 Athlon, and I am up to the new 3900X now, and just got the asus 5600XT 3 fan video. I would't ever buy any intel chip, even if I do live by them. Keep up the Excellent work.
Close to a perfect presentation: -Short -On point -No bullshit I only wish that the sound was a bit better (Lisa for the most part), something was a little "off" sometimes. Now I just want to see reviews and benchmarks before probably getting a 5900x to replace my 3600 (still good, but want something a bit better).
Same. I bought a beefy X470 motherboard just so I could upgrade to something amazing down the line. This is it. This is that amazing thing, and it will either be the 5900X or the 5800X, but im shooting for the 5900x for sure, considering its not much more expensive. if i get one that can hit 5ghz, i will be more than happy.
Nvidia's RTX 3000 series presentation was also good...actually better, as it showed more interesting stuff, and that dude has an awesome kitchen. :) But yeah, the "COVID presentations" are to the point and better than pre-COVID presentations.
