Where to Take The Boys Season 4 

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All I know is I want more Soldier Boy. That cannot be the last we see of him.

Depowered homelander having to pretend like he's still god would be amazing. Ryan losing respect for him and possibly hurting him would also be great. Also with marvel studios clearly moving towards a young avengers lineup, I think it would be great for the boys to tackle how fucked up it is to actually have a bunch of 12 year olds fighting crime

You are right about Ackles being a great addition. He was my favorite this season.

They will probably cover how Ryan will react to Homelander’s position as his father figure now. You can expect some possible growth from Ryan after he makes his own mind on his father. The Boys will also try to stop Victoria Newman from winning the election and becoming the Vice President.

The problem is that with so many enemies, I don't see how a powerless Homelander can survive, even he himself may take his own life.

For those that don't know, Season 3 did change the status quo on Homelander, although it was so subtle that even I initially missed it. Someone else on RU-vid (The Closer Look) pointed out a defining character trait for Homelander, and I realized that trait changed in the final scene when Homelander killed the protestor. Season 1-3 have been defined by Homelander's desire to be loved by public forcing him to hide his true most atrocious desires. The perfect example is he couldn't wipe out the protestors in Season 2 because he thought that would destroy his public image even though he fantasized about it right there. Well, end of Season 3, he kills one in what could at best be called a dangerous overreaction. The crowd decides it loves it, his son revels in the moment, and Homelander now knows he has a segment of the public that loves who he truly is, not who he thinks he has to pretend to be. As the series progresses, the most interesting thing about Homelander isn't his decaying mental health, although that is happening and interesting, it’s that he's losing reasons to pretend he needs to act like he's on a higher moral ground than he is.

Excited to see what they do. May be the first show that is definitively better than the comic.

Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing more of Annie and Kimiko interacting.

Black Noir deserves to have his rematch against Soldier Boy, they can’t let that setup die.

I love the depowered Homelander idea but I kind of think he should’ve lost his powers in season 3’s finale after his fight with Soldier Boy. That is a way to change the status quo and still keep Homelander around. He could spend season 4 regaining his powers and facing his own mortality, but then get them back and go on a rampage in season 5.

I think that S4 culminating in Homelander supporters storming the capitol is basically guaranteed to happen at this point, not only because the comics kind of do that but because that's basically the natural endpoint for the Trump allegory they've been building up for three seasons Edit: for people yelling that I'm making things political or that S3 "went woke" I'll let you in on a little secret: Homelander was always an allegory for everything wrong with the US and if you think the show is making that too obvious and alienating viewers you should really read the comics because they are much much less kind to your viewpoint. Art is political. All of it. The modern idea of the superhero was created by immigrants. Any claim that this is some new phenomenon says a lot more about the person complaining than the art they're complaining about. Read a book. Go outside. You clearly need to experience the world.

Seeing Homelander get depowered and on the run from the boys or Neuman by the end of Season 4, to slowly turn into Anthony Starr’s Banshee character to get his hands on V by any means would be unreal arch

The Boys is one of those rare adapted works that is better than the original.

I'm hoping for Ryan becoming the new Soldier Boy only based on the reference to how soldier boy in the comics shouts out the names of the states when fighting And Ryan does the same when he's stressed

I think the stuff with Soldier Boy was originally intended as a one season thing like Stormfront, but Jensen Ackles was just too good so they put him back on ice.

Edgar was one of my favorites of this season. I feel like almost everyone brought their all to season 3. Example: I hated A-Train and I even think he was amazing this season. ASHLEY of all people was so good. The fear of Homelander, standing up to Starlight and ATrain.. Everyone was so great

I think the final fight in the tower was actually very satisfying, it really made homelander seem actually beatable for once. I mean you saw how Queen Maeve made him bleed and take out one of his ears by herself. Makes him feel a lot more human than just his emotions and thoughts.

I think that homelander losing his power but only a few people knowing would be great. He would be bluffing in a lot of situations and atony starr has the nuance to pull it off

S3 rly amped up the show’s intensity. I can’t imagine what’ll happen in s4, but I hope it can live up to that hype

This was a great season. Some of my on the head prediction for Season 4 would be: >Ryan starts to become more like Homelander, adopting some of his cruelty and disregard for others but his actions start to become too much on him as he remembers his mother's wishes for him to be good and her death. >Dakota Bob becomes the US president and pardons Stan Edgar, who rebuilds a new Superhero team (this could be the seven, after a hypothetical scenario where Homelander is fired) with a black noir that is either a new one more closely reflecting the comics (I.e. Homelander clone), or the current one who Stan manged to fix before he dies of his gut filled wounds killing him. Victoria is alligned with Stan yet again either from a plot twist going back to season 3 where they planned to overtake Homelander, or she goes back to him cuz her daughter is not in good shape (either from compound V or Homelander threatening her). A-Train might be with Stan since he was looking at Black Noirs helmet in the S3 finale so he might finally not be with Homelander. Maybe he'll even fight him with the Boys in the season 4 finale to somewhat redeem himself. >Homelander creates more supes and tries to reanimates some old ones for his team (either for the Seven since so many of them are gone, or for a new team after he gets kicked outta Vought). The world (minus Toad and his cronies) wants Homelander to be held accountable for the all the deaths he has caused including on the plane and the guy at the ralley. >The deep comes out as openly fish sexual and finds he is not alone and finds others who are also but discovers that the fish and octopus are not consensual in their relationships (dont ask this). >Butcher has some unexpected residual effect from temp v, and has to deal with the ramecations of his declining health along with the collapse of his relationships with Ryan and the rest of his team.

I think Edgar is actually fine with being in exile, cause it does something everyone sees coming...Homelander self-destructing, he knows Homelander is a ticking time bomb of insecurity just waiting to go off hard. By removing him from power at Vought it's basically absolved him of blame when said bomb finally goes off, and positions him perfectly to come back in with possibly the solution to stopping Homelander, earning his position back AND eliminating Homelander and really the supes in general which is one of his stated long term goals.

I think it was a mistake to put Soldier Boy back in the box. Made the whole season feel pointless as we ended up back where we started with minor tweaks. At least leaving Soldier Boy out and about adds some intrigue to the show in how he would be utilized again. He added such an interesting and fresh dynamic. Plus it’s always great to see Jensen Ackles. Dean was my favorite Supernatural character.

I know season 5 will be the final season because Kripke already confirmed he will only do five seasons. And Jensen Ackles will be returning for season 4.

I don't think the ending was flawed... you see Butcher turning on Soldierboy was rather understandable, since he had to keep up his promise with Becca, to save Ryan no matter what.

"Who's Homelander without his powers" I must say that's a very interesting plot potential. Great video as always captain. Love from India!

Season 3 just felt like a really long, REALLY good movie cut into 8 parts.

Am I the only one that thinks it’s weird that in Season 2 they introduced another head-popping supe in the asylum, and then at the end of the episode she escapes… Only to never be brought up again? What was the deal with that? Was that just some kind of red herring? But, like, the characters didn’t even talk about or theorize she could be the head popper. What was the point of that plot point?

If Homelander loses his power, I don't see him lasting long. Everyone has a grudge against him, but the only reason they haven't done more is because he's Mother-effing Homelander. If he looses his powers, everyone will be gunning for him. Butcher will have to get in line. Some might pity him, but a lot would kill him - for fear he gets his powers back.

Edgar meeting The Boys: “Ah you’re Hughie, very twink-ish indeed.”

Soldier boy was there only hope to killing homelander but butcher had to screw up the plan 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

I don't know how Homelander would lose his powers at the end of Season 4, I think all of this is basically leading up to a giant battle between Butcher and Homelander just how they agreed in the very first episode of the third season

I honestly don’t like the idea of Homelander losing his powers at all. They’ve been slowly but surely building up the moment where he snaps, and commits mass genocide. I think losing his powers should happen in the series finale; Homelander loses his powers, and then he un-alives himself - that’s something I could see happen

I think for season 4 you get a fun parody of Ryan being the “Super Boy” stand in. Also, with homelander being de powered or maybe weakened due a new form of V, you could have a cool” death of Superman” inspired scene with maybe a Compound V enabled Butcher who is trying to end things before his time is up.

my biggest problem with season 3 (and i guess the whole show) is how quickly it’s brushed over when becca died. like the whole show was built off of butcher trying to find his wife, he finally gets her back then she dies. AND IT DOESNT SEEM TO BE ADDRESSED AGAIN? no showing butcher/ryan’s grief it’s just forgotten about other than him mentioning the “promise”

As much as I love The Boys, I think they will run into a wall after season 4 unless they figure out how to progress the story better. The last 2 seasons were pretty much just the boys finding something to fight Vought, things end in a shitshow and everything resets for the main characters. It's becoming a very predictable and tedious pattern and they need to change that.

This series has been one of my highlights recently especially with how weak the mcu has been. Jensen has been fantastic distancing himself from the dean role he’s been known for. I’m excited to see where the show takes up next!

The ways season three brought up abuse interested me since we saw all types: Bullying, emotional, physical, and grooming. I really want to see this examined.

I hope in Season 4 Homelander sees the piece of paper that Noir put "BAD" with the underlines and realizes he was just trying to help him.

Imagine if at the end of season 4 Homelander loses his powers, but then in season 5 he has to pretend like he still has them to hold on to what little power he has left. His power over others

What I'm honestly most looking forward too is finally seeing how Homelander performs as a father figure now that he has "full custody" of Ryan. I'm thinking Ryan turns out like the kid from the movie Brightburn but maybe I'm wrong. In his own sick and twisted way I think Homelander wants to give Ryan the childhood he never had and while that might include murder I think that's kind of sweet in a way.

I've noticed a pattern in the Boys that I think might continue: TL;DR: I think they're going to introduce a character called Tek-Knight and he's going to draw a lot of focus In season one we got The Seven who are a parody of the Justice League In season two we got stormfront who in the comics is meant to be a play on Thor, they are also the leader of Payback in the Comics, and in turn Payback is based of of the Avengers. In season three we got Soldier Boy an obvious play on Captain America and the leader of the show's version of Payback. But there's one character missing from the comic version of Payback: Tek-Knight who in the comics is a play on both Iron-Man and Batman, being a billionaire who "builds" (it's made by Vought scientists) a suit to stand on the same level as the Supes Now think about it, he was seemingly purposely left out of season three, with Black Noir out of the picture the Seven need a Batman figure to fill the vacant spot, and the show seems to place emphasis parody of a main member of "Marvel's Big Three" those being Thor, Captain America and Iron-Man every subsequent season, so it makes sense for season four they would go with Tek-Knight. Also, This doesn't really add to my point but imagine what the writers could do with a more realistic take on the "Benevolent Billionaire" superhero trope, it could be both funny and poignant.

Butcher getting 12 months to live felt like the show saying "next season is the last season" but I could be wrong.

I want a Soldier Boy spinoff series focusing on his life from the 40’s - the 80’s and the rise of Vought Enterprises. Imagine Mad Men with superheroes.

S3 felt like setup tons of it, sure it deliver on previous seasons story arks but was mostly focus on setting up the dominos that will be falling in S4. I quite like it especially MM's story, learning his reasons to be in the team really help to deepen his character.

Id love to see Stan work with the boys more closely. I feel like they hint at it with the “play both sides” line. Homelander having Butcher and Stan working together would be even more fuel to that fire too.

I think the end of S3 pretty good setup for the whole "Homelander creates a supe army in order to take over the USA". Him slowly realizing that he can really, genuinely do anything he wants and he will have supporters is a good stepping stone for that support to not only be the public, but other superheroes. Whether it will go into the "Homelander takes over the White House" plot line or not, is a whole different story, I do think they're setting the seeds for S4 to be Homelander taking the reins of an army, supes or the public. I also think S4 will be the time The Boys start taking permanent Compound V. At the very least Butcher and Hughie, as they will need CV in order to not die from V24. They can also go into the "Dead man walking" trope, but I feel that limits the story and needs to be used as a final season type thing

Love your content mate. Been off work for a few months and watching your videos has been a highlight recently so thanks very much. I appreciate it

Homelander dies the second he loses his powers, straight up. No one would hesitate to kill him and it would be the season 3 finale all over again if he lives.

Ryan doing Homelander in is *the* most fitting finale for the character.

This show has been my most favorite show of all time, and I'm very hopeful for the future of the show

Would be cool to see you make a video about the final season of Better Call Saul when it ends. The season has been amazing so far and the show as a whole as well

What makes homelander so compelling is the aura of absolute fear and power he holds over everyone in the room. I think taking that away limits the character so much where I wouldn’t mind seeing homelander snap to the point of killing the president like in the comics and just running it himself. I think the show needs to continue to ramp up homelanders insanity and depowering him wouldn’t leave room for literally anything lol

I think the main reason why the end of S3 feels so unsatisfying to people is mainly to do with how little screentime Ryan got, considering him picking Homelander and the last scene hinting of the kid becoming as twisted as his biological father is suppose to be tie that kinda concludes the theme this season deals with on the role of fathers, and how inadequate (and lack of) parenting will lead to a cycle of brutal violence and cruelty. We see this theme explored incredibly well through characters like Butcher whose trauma over his father's abuse led to his current mindset where even if he knows what he is doing is wrong, he cant help dragging himself and other people into his vengeance no matter how horribly it may get for all of them. We see this through Soldier Boy whose lack of parental acceptance lead to behavior to deteriorate into a person that would constantly traumatize his teammates. And of course, with Homelander and his various problems and issues, all accumulating into him getting Ryan back through appealing to their respective superpower identities and to pleading to Soldier Boy that they can all be a family again. With all three of these examples, all 3 characters have gone through substantial development and further characterization, but with Ryan, he just runs away from Butcher after he gets mad at him, and next scene he's goated into accepting Homelander again.

Personally I was hoping they would be able to keep Soilder Boy on ice for a season and bring him back in season 5 or 6. However Butcher being given limited life span might mean things have to move forward a lot faster.

4:13 dude yes!!! Spot on, it made zero sense to me when butcher decides “screw it, he hit Ryan, time to switch sides!”

I absolutely fell in love with this series! Absolutely fantastic humour ,darkness and cast. My family and friends are so sick of me telling them to watch it.

The Boys season 1,2, and 3 was amazing and yep bring on season 4 😎🔥👊

This show seems more and more like a homelander story after every season and less the story of the boys

I got so confused when you were talking about Better Call Saul. I love it when people talk about my favorite show.

I really like the idea of a powerless homelander that they can lock up and treat as a source of advice in a way. Kind of like how zuko would talk to Ozai in jail in the comics after he was de powered.

Stan Edgar said he wanted to get out of the superhero business. Victoria played her part, instructed by Edgar, to help Edgar leave vought and get close to Homelander. Stan is way too formidable to just exit stage left. He breadcrumb the boys to Soldier Boy. He will no doubt get Black Noir back on his feet and more powerful than ever. IDK, Stan is a bad MF!

I can see a depowered Homelander plotline going in such a way that most of the rest of the world isn't aware that he is without powers, but he still has to get people (mainly Vought, A-Train and the Deep) to do what he wants. Thus, he uses the (now empty) threat of killing them to keep them in line and plays off their fear of him to get what he wants without even needing to flash his laser eyes. Also, I wouldn't be surprised by S4 having Homelander getting his most loyal followers to use Temp V and commit acts of violence on his behalf. It would be a challenge the Boys could fight and provide some good action, and it could also be reminiscent of Homelander's supe uprising in the comics.

Wow, I just finished season 3 yesterday so seeing this in my inbox was a surprise

I cannot wait to see what comes next. I'm excited for more carnage and surprises.

I’m new to The Boys and I honestly don’t know how I’ve been so blind to the series for this long. I binged the whole thing in a couple weeks. The ONLY two things I would say confused me are .. 1: Why did Victoria only kill Raynor in ep1 season 2, and where was she to begin with? 2: Why would Billy attack SB and completely throw seasons1-3 out the window. Homelander is a planetary threat and I don’t even think he told Ryan that he raped his mom which doesn’t make sense at all. other than that I love the show.. rip noir

Once Homelander has everything he wants with Ryan and his power, I agree the only interesting place left to really take him is death or de-powering and I like the latter more for the drama

Can't believe you've brought up BCS and made me cry over kim in a The Boys YT vid

I love this show it’s so good I’m so excited for what they do for season 4 this show is perfect.

I really want next season to be home lander losing his power from soldier boy and being imprisoned for his crimes then the season after would be him in prison being tortured mentally by billy butcher and Stan Edgar visiting him

I think it comes out that Stormfront is Homelander's mom. The public shame will drive him into the arms of the only group who will accept him (her followers) and he will find making people fear him is better than love and become even more of a bad guy.

You have given me a strong insight of RU-vid commentary for big superhero videos, series, and movies such as the boys, which I freaking love, but I am sorry Captain Midnight while I know negative critique sells. I feel like your content is biased towards this because of this. Nevertheless love your content and I hope to see much more in the future.

I knew about this series for years but I never watched it, last week I finally decided to give it a go and I was not disappointed. If I ever thought Homelander was an evil superman then by now I know how wrong I was and honestly I'm really enjoying the show and each of the hero's personality is just so rich and somehow relatable/believable, humor is well dosed too. Something Marvel and DC should definitely take notes from

really dont think homelander should lose his powers, the reason why he is so scary is because he could pretty much one shot most of the characters with proper blood lust (exluding soldier boy) and each scene is extremely tense because we know he could, it would be cool for his psychology but ion know just seems kind of pointless?

Every actor in this show I think is fantastic but Antony Starr is just next level excellent as Homelander.

I love BCS and The Boys. Good taste my brotha.

100% on more Soldier Boy. He’s such an awesome anti-hero imo. Like you can tell he’s flawed but like he said he’s not *totally* a bad guy/irredeemable. Also it’s badass to see Jensen Ackles as the only character who can truly go toe to toe with Homelander. Captain America vs Superman. Awesome.

If there is one thing I pray they improve for next season it's the fight choreography. Because I thought it was VERY lackluster last season. I know this is technically not an action show. Very unengaging action sequences.

I like the idea of Homelander losing his powers. I can’t think of a fate he would find worse than having to live the rest of his life as a normal human. that would probably be a better fate, narrative wise than just straight up killing him. Also another interesting wrinkle if they went that route would be to have vought create another Superman-like or equally as powerful supe to take his place and then he realizes he wasn’t that special after all, seeing how easily replaceable he is.

Two options: Black Noir clone ramped up on temp V. Won't kill him but sends him mad. Thus we get a supe at Black Noir levels of the comics, and with the power set to be the tool that Billy uses to kill HL, before offing Noir. Or, Black Noir becomes Tech Knight - extensively rebuilt, and will have a secondary story arc in order to take out Soldier Boy, possibly with MM. Temp V will be have been made from Ryan's DNA. Not sure if that will be a thing but would explain the power level hikes. For a story arc from that, we could have HL not knowing that - until too late - , and takes it with either no effect, or ramps up power and starts to unhinge him further. Making the need for a massive team up to take him out. My personal favourite idea is that Ryan, or new Noir, or Billy, end up being the real super big bad. And no matter how unhinged HL is - he doesn't become nicer etc - HL dies a complete hero, perhaps taking out Ryan. Only the Boys who survive know this and are disgusted that he is forgiven and loved in death. Would be a beautiful swerve.

It should be noted that The Boys will probably wrap up around Season 5 if Kripke's work on Supernatural is any indication so it needs to wrap up pretty soon.

I really want to see Tek Knight

I could honestly see Soldier Boy's ability to remove a supe's powers be ineffective against Homelander. Like consider that all the people's power that he removed are all people who would've got V injected into them. Homelander being a *natural* supe might not be susceptible to that. Not that it won't hurt him or something. Just my thoughts

This is one of the few shows that each season is significantly better then the previous, even when season 1 was a work of art. I’m so excited for 4 because I didn’t think 3 could top 2. And 3 ended up being the greatest season yet!

I can see homelander pretending he didnt lose his powers and everyone still being scared of him till something happens, like Ryan and him are on stage, showing off his son but Ryan punches him as a "look at how strong my son is" moment but it actually absolutely fractures his arm this would only be weird to the boys and some at vought, but not everyone else as it'd simply say "whoa he really is strong"

Would love for soldier boy to return for the finale.

In season 4 I would love see The Deep fall deeper into depression because he truly is subhuman.. and I’d appreciate just a little more ATrain or at least him eventually not taking Homelander’s shit and actually contributing to a fight as the fastest man alive. HL doesn’t have many speed feats either so I’d put my money on ATrain..

I feel the same....that HL will be de-powered by SB and how that comes about is by Edgar and Mallory teaming up. They free SB in order to subdue HL, but knowing how vengeful and all but indestructible he is, he would pose another problem for them all. After all, he didn't want to go back in the box. Some form of 're-education perhaps....making him a useful tool but without his previous memories maybe?

100% agree on Butcher's flip on Soldier Boy! We got three seasons of having it drilled into our heads that the only reason this guy hasn't thrown in the towel is because of his deep and profound hatred for Homelander. He throws that all away because Homelander brought Ryan to the battle of Vought Tower? Really disappointed with this choice.

I was actually really surprised to hear people were disappointed with the finale. I thought the ending fights were pretty great and I felt butcher obeying his wife’s dying wish by protecting Ryan made sense to me. My only issue came afterwards were the episode felt like it kept being at the endpoint but also kept going. The formatting and pacing was a little weird in the end segment

I’m just gonna come right out and say it. I think Anthony Starr as Homelander is one of my top 5 favourite TV performances ever, and maybe even top 3. Right up there with Rust Cohle and Walter White

NGL I really like the idea Tek Knight is a Musk parody who tries to buy the Seven in the wake of Season 3

Honestly, since Homelander does have a lot of influence he can still be a threat despite being powerless. Also it’ll make it even more terrifying for when he gets his powers back, if he does.

What I would like for the Boys Season 4, are some good British accents for once

I think black noirs alive. He's survived way worse. I think edgar will find him and inject him with tons of permanent V to put him on homelanders level.

Some of the funniest parts for me in season 3 were the overly cheesy Soldier Boy TV appearances, Jensen does them so well. Knowing how Jensen got the role, it's so lucky for fans of the show because i couldn't imagine anyone else better for that role.

I hope we get to see Deep try out a new persona as a darker version of the character, with hair and tattoos like Jason Mamoa, and utterly failing to be taken seriously. I also want to see new supes and a new look homelander 7. The other thing I would desperately love to see is wolfenstein, mech suit Stormfront. I dont believe she killed herself, just because Ashley said so and there was a bloodstain on the bed and perhaps Edgar has her hidden away to use for another "rebranding" opportunity.

I have a theory which is probably untrue. Stan Edger is actually a super, and his power is he has superior intellect. He seems to have the ability to manipulate anybody he wants. But hey it’s only a theory.

There’s no way this show ends without homelander killing 1 million+ people. It’s been building to his eventual loss of control for the whole time

I really hope you do a Better Call Saul season 6 video. It’s my favourite show and this is my favourite RU-vid channel so that would check a lot of boxes.