Hey, can you make a video about weather or not the Diasporex or Interex should come back? I would love nothing more for there to be a Diasporex army. I feel that genuine good guys have a place in grimdark. I would have them be like the Tau in terms of speed and durability, the Eldar in terms of shooting and melee, and have good psychic powers, but not as good as the Craftworld Eldar. I would make them grimdark in two ways. The first is comparable to the Farsight Enclaves, but with something extra- they are doing everything in their power to make the galaxy a better place. They are desprately trying to bring light to the grim darkness of the far future, but just don't have the power to do so. Secondly, I would have them, as a product of grudges towards the Imperium, refuse to ally with and instead go to war with the imperium, refusing Robute Guilliman's offer to make the Diasporex an ally, and so on.
Slaanesh: "you have to seek perfection" Tzeentch: "hou have to seek knowledge" Nurgle: "you have to seek happiness" Khorne: "you have to seek strength" Malal: "Here's some powers, go punch a daemon through the face"
Malal is a fun twist to demonology. Further fallen angels. These guys (👉 to other four chaos gods) fuck these guys, glad you don't like them either I'm completely over them too man. 😂
Khorne is probably the best one. Truth, honor, self improvement, what's there to hate? "Good follower, will you go fetch me this talisman?" "Of course, Lord Tzeentch" (Hehe, he doesn't know that I'm not actually going to do it. But I know he's reading my mind, so I WILL do it, but the very moment I leave, I will actually not do it. He'll be surprised when I actually bring it to him...) "You are my most schizophrenic warrior."
Khorne is the patron of strongmen, powerlifters, people who go to the gym for strength. Slaanesh is the patron of bodybuilders, people who sculpt their bodies, and want to look their best. People who use the gym to enhance perfection.
@@insaniam_convertunt_scientiamMortarion can be defeated by a supersoaker full of hand-sanitizer and a scented candle. At worst, add in a Hellhoubd filled with soap and hot water..
A loving grandpa who is described like this... "It was impossible to describe. Impossible to comprehend. To his eyes, it was a wallowing swamp of black stars and dying worlds, of rotting galaxies alive with immense, writhing shapes as large as nebulas. Cosmic maggots, gnawing at the roots of infinity. Galactic plagues, eating away at the very flesh of existence, reducing all that was to leprous ruin in their unending hunger. It was a dark mirror of Azyr, corrupted, reduced, strangled. All glory vanished, all hope quashed. A thunder of screams echoed upwards, driving him back. A million million voices, raised up in anguish and despair. Forever crying out for that which would never come." "Down below, something began to crawl out of the black heart of that cancerous infinity. It was no shape, and all shapes. Fat and thin, a plume of smoke, a puddle of oil, spreading ever upwards. There were eyes in the smoke, as round as cold, dead suns, and teeth that stretched in a grin as wide as the horizon. Fingers like comets clutched at the void, as the Lord of All Things stirred from his manse, and began the long, arduous climb to his garden. Moons crumbled beneath that impossible bulk, and stars were snuffed out."
Seriously, I consider Nurgle to be the most heinous. Practically no one willingly worships Nurgle. He infects you with the most painful, disgusting, horrendous diseases in the galaxy. Then says “that sucks bro, hey, if you worship me I’ll at least take the pain away and stop you from dying. If not, I’m sure that awful disease will finish you off eventually, maybe give it a few more months”. Don’t even give me “he doesn’t know any better, he’s just doing what his nature is” bullshit. He knows exactly what his diseases do and the misery they cause. If he was only about “spreading as much life through disease as possible” then he would make disease that focus on transmission and longevity. Not pain and guaranteed death.
Personally, I worship Pancreas. Only takes my subscription and not my soul and in return he gives semi-good quality videos and memes for me to consume.
A small aside: Nuffle is also the god of dicerolls and probability, but only pertaining to Bloodbowl. This technically means that no actual in universe character prays to him, but rather real life players of Bloodbowl are his followers.
I love that Ahriman is scheming and plotting to escape, meanwhile Tzeench is just rubbing his (hands?) together hyping it up "Yes little Egyptian wizard, get that library card!"
I think Malice gets bonus points for one reason. That being he literally eats Chaos. I was able to survive college thanks to Chinese Buffets. So I personally find an endless feast on all that is evil appetizing.
I find nurgle the most disturbing one because he reminds me of how real cults work with love bombing, and even if it is genuine, you’re basically destroying yourself mentally all for the promise of happiness, and like a cult they target people in a vulnerable situation,which I’m shocked to see people think that’s a positive.
the problem is, cults target people with no direction and in need of hope. nowadays direction and purpose are so lacking in western society, even the abusive, possessive type of purpose that cults give can be seen as a positive if the alternative is uselessness and no religion or faith to keep you going. another example of this is communism. for all intents and purposes communism turned into a cult religion. stalin had a personality cult, marx's texts were practically taken as a holy text that can't be questioned rather than an economic theory that could be adapted, they even have their doomsday cults. look up what posadism is, its literally scientology but for communism. people had no direction in communist societies so they attached themselves to the state and the ideology even when its posseive and abusive type of direction and purpose as that is human nature.
People pick Nurgle because alternatives are worse One God is wAcKy random dude that can screw you over just cuz, so unless you think very highly of yourself and your intellectual abilities (not me :( ) then you won't pick him. War God is, just war crime God and the longer you worship him the more unhinged you become. I mean if you don't care about morals at all, he is indeed probably best God due to not screwing you up much. Then there's Slaanesh where he forgor to mention how at first it's amazing to work under them, but slowly you become more and more addicted to debauchery and immoral lifestyle. You have to constantly up your crazy stunt and here's a reminder, eventually there's gonna be a limit, limit as in you can't be more debaucherious or you die trying. Also Slaanesh does love screwing you over in metaphorical way. So that's why people pick Nurgle, it's still sucky existence but hey, atleast you're more intact then other bozos
You forgot about the "make your own Chaos God" from the "Realm of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness" book. For, you know, people who REALLY want something wild & out there.
Help, my dedication to Tzeentch is going perfectly fine and my hands always agree with each other. I love the new perspective on I love the new perspective I love the new perspective on life since he has granted me eyeballs within my eyeballs so I can see while I see while I see. I can also see backwards so the universe looks at ME when I open my eyes when I open my eyes, and I am winning the game against it of Two Truths and a Lie. The Lie is that there were two Truths, and the Truth is that it's all Lies. But only if you believe my left hand; she's crazy!
The description of Khorne's motivations for granting boons made me think of performance reviews, budget reports, and grant funding. Demonstrate you can capably manage mass murder and turn a profit of skulls and he may approve your request for more muscles. Khorne probably outsources the actual accounting to Nurgle's plaguebearers though. Edit: and again the Great Horned Rat was forgotten, as is fitting.
I would say the only one that was missing is the Horned Rat, who actually has human worshipers. He is the god of ruin and survival, and worshiping him seems to be more a case if you want to be pet or prey.
A few more things in Nurgle's favor. 1)In contrast to the other chaos gods Nurgle doesnt create new daemons all that much but he instead turns the souls of his dead followers into new daemons and they seem to retain a good deal of their memories as well. Having an afterlife as a guarantee is legit one of the best things you could ask in this setting compared to the alternatives. 2) Nurgle daemons are legit capable of forming genuine bonds and friendships with each other by default and not as an oddity. 3)If you really mess up, Nurgle is the kind of guy that might eventually forgive you. Sure he might putt you in a time-out jar for some amount of time but he will probably let you out eventually. As for Slaneesh: 1)A chance to get into a relationship with a daemon if you are into that (you know who you are). I am not even joking, Syll'esske pretty much proves that genuine love between slaneesh daemons and cultists is possible and it is even hintent that while it's kinda rare its not rare enough to be something frowned upon by other daemons, 2)You will never be judged for being a perfectionist
Syll'esske is one of my favorite daemons. They got tired of being made fun of, so they broke into Slaanesh's palace and basically forced him/her/it to give them a shotgun wedding
Nurgle is probably the only chaos god who you could say actually cares about his worshipers He has a sick (literally) form of love, but he genuinely wants them to be happy and sees them as more than just toys
@BackupSix76066 A thoroughly corrupted human gladiator in the slaaneshi fighting pits to be clear. Syll Lewdtongue had a reputation for getting too attached to the slaves they were supposed to be corrupting and ruining. Syll saw Esskes performance and groomed him to ascend all the way to daemon prince, only for true daemons to ignore it. Esske and Syll form a desdly tag team and carve a path straight to Slaeenesh's palace and bind eachother under a dark symbiotic pact.
8:22 As I recall, while Ben 10 *does* have the power of a god in that form, there are at least two other personalities inside it, and if Ben can't get them to agree on a course of action not only will it not do anything, but he's trapped.
@@PauLtus_BHe is the true chaos. He is anarchy, you take Malice when you are really pissed off at someone personally or everyone at the same time, like if you want to not corrupt and rule humanity, you want to wipe out humanity, and you are okay with dying of chaos cancer as Malice sucks your soul out slowly if you get the power to do it in exchange. Vengeance, self-destruction and anarchy.
@@cornixdemetrius7883 Very fitting for a space marine chapter who was loyalist, but whos cultural practices of their homeworld ejected them into team Chaos by default. Not my taste personally. I prefer Necoho; the combination of wisdom, self-awareness and self-delusion is intriguing to me. And relatable.
@@cornixdemetrius7883 "He is the true chaos." That's exactly the attitude I find so uninteresting about him. It's like "we have to be even more Chaos than all the other Chaos". What are the emotions driving this chaos god that can't be found in any others? Khorne wants to constantly keep killing, Nurgle wants everything to rot away, Nagash already wants everything to die. I feel "Vengeance, self-destruction and anarchy." are already true for every other Chaos god.
Personally I go with Tzeentch I greatly enjoy being ever contradictory yet right and equal parts wrong at the same time! After all who can say no to unlimited power even if it takes is a bit of madness?!
@@bruuuuuuuuhhhh that only happens if you're more useful as a chaos pawn. so lie, cheat, and trick your way to staying relevant, and youre doing your god good.
Since this is a video about Chaos God worship. I tell the story when I became a worshipper of Nurgle. I had a terribly painful intestine infection with every single symptom you can imagine. It didnt help that i heard my mother say that she would love to get me somewhere else, so i am not home, so i felt pretty cast out from my family. So i just layed there, in a dark room, with my own thoughts. The pain mixed with what i felt made me think: "What if i pray to Nurgle? Nothing bad could happen, right? Worth a shot..." So i looked up and started praying to Nurgle to help me in any way he can. Suddenly, i felt a light breeze, the door to my room opened and someone put a tray on the table. "I brought you some medication, tea, and biscuits. If you need anything, know that i am here." I was in quite a lot of pain, and the fact that i already had been given some treatment, my senses were a bit dull. Now of course this could have been my father, being as badass as he always was... or was it Nurgle?
@@NuniaBiznaz As far as i know. Nurgle loves life, keeping a creature alive is important to him. The main problem is, he loves all life equally, so he keeps both you and the bacteria alive, causing you to become a walking blob. But in return you are free from pain. It is a sort of salvation Which at the moment didnt sound too bad to me.
The one chaos god you can worship by not worshiping him at all. The only negative is that to become one of his demon princes you have to spend an entire year moderating r/atheism. Truly a fate worse than death.
@@theaetherknight5614 kill me now and send me to heaven- both to spare me from listening to them, and also to hear their shrieks of seething hatred as I go
@@toastle8005 The mental image I just got is that in Warhammer God is real and he takes souls at complete random and pretty much every chaos god hates him for it but can't do shit because He's fucking God
Love the idea of a Champion of Necoho who goes above and beyond in disrupting and discrediting other religions and Necoho just responds with "Wow uh, good job I guess, wanna go grab a beer or something?"
In real life, I think Slaanesh holds greater sway over regular folks. The allure and corruption of excess is much harder to stave off as compared to the rest.
What I like about the big 4 the most is they are ever present and unavoidable in human nature. All four of them are some aspect of the general human psyche and no matter what you do you are always honoring one of them. Makes them compelling baddies in the ‘verse
there is a reason that despite slaanesh being the physically weakest chaos god powerwise, she (he?) is feared by the other chaos gods as she taps into the darkest side of human nature that has the most dark allure.
@@sovietunion7643 its also because you can take every one of the chaos gods domains and corrupt it to be slaaneshi. wanna be a great warrior? probably khorne. but if you're obsessed with becoming the perfect killing machine, looking for someone to provide a REAL CHALLENGE, trying to perfect every parry and move you can, that's slaanesh. you want to control your fate and scheme your way to the top? tzeentch. but you obsessing over micromanaging everyone and everything around you and manipulating everyone else to do exactly what you say or you'll murder them because they HAVE to listen to you, that's now slaanesh and for nurgle, sloth obviously has a place both under nurgle and slaanesh, and it's a similar thing where that bitterness can turn into an obsession with making people suffer.
Something to really think about when one 'joins' chaos is that chaos corruption changes your way of thinking. People who contract Nurgles Rot become plaguebearers, who find it embarrassing they ever struggled against the diseaese. And while maybe thats just your soul and personality completely molding over by the rot, it really goes to show the potency of chaos when it comes to influencing minds. To choose chaos is to accept you're never really going to be just yourself again
except tzeetch who honestly is probably empowered by people disagreeing and fighting against his intentions. a supple mind that doesn't break boundries is useless to tzeetch. one that wriths and screams and goes mad once under control is a boon as rebellion and change empowers tzeetch.
Considering the amount of trauma from death, anxiety and depression ive had in my life i think im ok with the brain rewriting if it means i get out of this
there are more solkan lore in the new fantasy rol edition: he and the other gods of Law fought chaos, he defeated Khorne, but becuase the rest lost and retreated he had to retreat. Tileans worship him as god of vendettas, his temples have depictions of him kicking khorne.
Good to know, i hope that Arianka, Isha and Tau'va get more lore someday where they are allowed to win. It's boring having only the chaos gods active in the settings.
The idea that Big E was going to be the Chaos God Hashut in 40k would certainly explain a fair few things about the imperium, although I could also see him becoming Necoho. But mostly I'm now imagining Emps as Hashut.
You don’t know how happy I am you included Necoho and Zuvasin, as a person who spent 3 years on a single Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay campaign I felt like only me and my rpg buddies knew about them. Thank you!
Throughout this campaign (which is still going on) we went through some really obscure lore, of course with plenty of homebrew stuff but yeah, lot of hidden gems is 1st and 2nd editions of WHFRP!
@big_tymerro Thats nice dude a friend and I are playing a campaign we're his dwarf character is going to become a chaos champion of khorne with a chaos warband of orcs and beast men
The promise of eternal delight, and the potential to perfect your existence with all things that one loves, while in reality it being horribly depraved acts of pain, is basically my current college life summed up.... sooo... Glory to Slaanesh!
@@crimson7835 Out of all the Chaos gods, Slaanesh is the only one who genuinely wants what’s *best* for you. Slaanesh wants you to be the best version of yourself possible! Sure, Nurgle might make you happy, but all he really wants is for you to lie down and rot with a smile on your face. Slaanesh believes you can be *more* than that.
The thing about the Chaos God in how I see them is that there is a lot of overlap. Take Khorne and Slaanesh for example. While Slaanesh is the God of Grape, I see Khorne's demons as capable of doing the same amount of grape to their victims as Slaanesh's Demons, because grape is a weapon and tool used in every war since the first Monkey waged war on the other, and through history by soldiers when they invade a village, city, or nation which also empowers Khorne. Another thing that can overlap with Chaos Gods is pollution. Pollution is more of Nergal's territory. The spreading of pollution destroys life and spreads not just disease, but despair and a yearning for the physical and mental anguish to end. However, Pollution also empowers Tzeench and Khorne. A politician who pollutes a small town's drinking water and uses divide-and-conquer tactics on the town's populace to escape justice empowers Tzeentch. Polluting rivers and land to make enemy soldiers empowers not just Nergal, but also Khorne, and polluting rivers just to save money for a giant corporation can empower not just Tzeentch, but also Slaanesh with the desire for wealth. And why desire is a Slaanesh territory, it is also big in Tzeentch's territory, and also in Nergal, and Khorne. They all have a hold on the desire for a better existence, but through varying and different methods that causes overlap on one another, and that is why the Chaos Gods own the souls of Humanity, unless the Emperor can save them.
You know what would be cool? To see the Warhammer Fantasy world from the perspective of Norsca for one. Not like the stories of Wulfrik the Wanderer, because the perspctive on the world itself is very much from the Empire / HIgh Elf side of things. I mean, what do Norscans actually see when they see demons and mutations? How does their society actually function? They're a civilization that primarily worships the Ruinous Powers, yet maintain enough stability to have a population large enough to wage war with the southlands.
They had a book about them in Warhammer fantasy rp, turns out they have a variety of cultures between different tribes. Generally the most Southern tribes are less insane and actually have a functionning society. They have artisans, merchants, farmers and even have some people whose job it is to keep the history of the tribe alive via songs and stories. However everyone is still expected to be able to fight when the time come for war.
Read Blood for the Blood God and Palace of the Plague Lord. They have different thinkings about the chaos gods, and they mostly worship each god out of necessity or for benefits/blessings
but if you break your word even if it was out of your control you get put in a iron suit of molten metal or even if your related to said person kinda bs.
I wasn't too familiar with what Hashut's deal was and wasn't really sure what would seperate him from the main 4. It's actually awesome to see him effectively have his own niche which is clearly reflected in the culture of the Chaos Dwarves.
Your anecdote about Necoho/Zuvassin was about Necoho. It's in the Something Rotten in Kislev module, and iirc it's literally his only altar. If you trash it there's a chance he'll show up and congratulate you. The whole thing is basically there to scare the player characters because pretty much nothing you do will invoke his wrath. And yes, Nuffle is canonically the most powerful chaos god. When he shows up on a world the other gods all take a back seat to him. He's also the most fickle chaos god, as anyone who has ever played Blood Bowl can tell you.
First time I've heard slaanesh described in a way that could actually have upsides. It's always "you're pushed to extremes until you're miserable because you can't get satisfaction from anything, and it all just sucks." I like the idea of her worshippers just doing whatever they like most to the extreme and actually enjoying it at the expense of everyone else. Also I think you did nurgle a little dirty. His main domain is life, in all its aspects. That means accepting that life must consume one another in order to survive, but in return some pros he provides include: >eternal (or at least greatly extended) life >peace of mind and stability, satisfaction with a job well done >escape from the cycle of life and death (his gifts will thrive within and from your flesh, but you won't be harmed) >support and encouragement to help you achieve >next to khorne he's the most honest Chaos God. You get exactly what you were offered, no tricks! >All are welcome in the church of nurgle He is also God of creation, so if you're the creative type he might be for you. Plus he's got a lovely garden that everyone is free to join!
@@vOddy75 as far as I know slaanesh has always been referred to as both male and female, the eldar call him "she who thirsts" for instance, but it's also known as the "Prince of Pleasure" among other titles
Nah I don't like how he described Slaanesh, probably secret Slaanesh heretic hum, he basically described them as perfect, why even worship say War Chaos God if Slaanesh worship can give you almost same results but safer? Her/him/them being the "heaven at first, hell later" kinda God is interesting. Because I don't think you can't say, obsess over self harm under their rule, so technically ypu can just enjoy the honeymoon under her and then just leave the living world. Unless I'm missing something like her reviving you
@@danielsurvivor1372 Considering how long Slaanesh has been persistently hounding for Eldar souls, I think it's safe to say they're not letting you off the ride once that coaster starts chugging. Slaanesh makes sure you're seeing that ride into the darkest depravity, until somebody else pops your skull or they don't even need to force you anymore. Slaan makes sure you don't skip out on that bill.
In terms of Warhammer Fantasy, I might just say Be'lakor or Hashut. I like to think of Be'lakor as intrusive thoughts made manifest, whispering to mortals from the shadows. Also, him being involved in Mordheim, Shadow over Albion and even Vermintide certainly makes him more interesting than some intangible cosmic evil.
Having a favourite Chaos god is like saying "yeah grieving is okay I guess but I really like the denial/bargaining/anger/depression phase" You fundamentally misunderstand what it's for and why it's important. That's why I'm Undivided all the way.
@@aideng-0.033 as a skaven and chaos player the skaven half of me wants both of those to lean into the disposability aspects, but the chaos player in me also wants to think that a nuffle chapter of chaos space marines would be the bashy team i dream of. (They could probably just use a very similar roster for it with champs being replaced by marines although i dont know enough about 40k to know a good replacement for beastmen and minotaur)
Why worship gods when you can beat the shit out of them, turn them into Pokemon, and take a nice nap. This comment was brought to you by the Necron gang.
Sons of Malal: " I'm here to kill chaos. " 'You are chaos.' " Grox shit. " *Blasts Limp Bizkit while killing chaos champion that dared insinuate they serve Chaos too.*
In good ol' PancreasNoWork production value fashion, our beloved once again forgor about the great horned rat. I'm not sure if this was intentional or not, but I for one find it incredibly funny.
this guy donated 20k wario coins to pancreas. are wario coins even fungible in the united states? last i checked no portal to the mario universe has opened up (and if one has please fucking tell me now) so i don't know how i could spent that.
The horned rat is not a chaos god. He's the god of Skaven, and while they aren't the greatest for sure, they are not Chaos. The whole point of the Skaven is that they are evil but of a different kind, and distinctly different from chaos. At least in fantasy, maybe he's a chaos god in 40k or something, but I don't care about that over the top bullshit.
I knew that he wouldn't get a full section in the video since he's very explicitly *trying* to become a Chaos God but isn't one yet, but I'm still glad Vastor got a shout out. Here's hoping he'll get a chance to shine in a dedicated video about him. And that by then, we'll have more books about him too.
Honestly… Slaanesh’s ring of indolence doesn’t sound so bad. You fall asleep on a blissful beach until your bones become sand. No mention of torture, just “ahh, sad, you can’t do anything anymore.” Bitch, I’m sleeping blissfully-it’s all good.
With how modern society treats people? Even though most 'jobs' are busy work that we invented to have *something* to do then treat it like it's world shatteringly important. Can you blame them for just wanting to relax lil?@@sovietunion7643
I'm a bit surprised you did not mention the Great Horned Rat (besides that one lil handwave) in this video, considering how (as of AoS) he/she/IT muscled its way onto stealing a bit of power from each of the Big Four(TM) chaos gods during the Endtimes, becoming a Chaos God proper in what came after, rather than the nebulous "Maybe he is maybe he isn't" approach from good ol' Fantasy. Still, lovely video as always. :)
Nurgle. I am way too chill for Khorne, not ambitious enough for Tzeentch, and not masochistic or cruel enough for Slaanesh. I am perfectly aware of the daunting scale and cruel indifference of the universe, and I can look at all that and go 'I can work with this'. I'm also generally nice and make it my calling in life to help others, especially family, and while that can easily be twisted by Nurgle, I'm also the kind of guy who would try and take everything Nurgle gives to me and attempt to make something positive out of it and encourage others to follow that example. Would it work? Probably not, but if God gives you a pile of shit, you work with it as best you can because otherwise it just stinks up the place until it dries out.
I choose khorne not out of free will but because i know myself and righteous wrath accounts for 80% of my emotional state 24/7. If i can choose it's slaanesh, but I'm likely to fall to khorne before i get to choose, realistically.
@@floricel_112 I said Khorne... not to be a World Eater with Butchers nails. Plenty of Fantasy and Aos Khorne followers are A) not in mortal agony and B) very content about their lives.
You are one of the few RU-vidrs whose joked constantly have me on the verge on rolling on the floor (And actually doing it at times). In case someone does not get it, Panceras's humor is above god-tier.
I'll go for Nurgle just to see Fau- I MEAN Isha, she seems like the only nice god available in 40K, since she whispers cures to all mortals not just the Eldar. Plus they got that Buzz Saw/Axe/Scythe combo and that's pretty sick, both figuratively and very literally.
Great video, I just wish you brought up the story of Skarbrand for Khorne. Edit: full story For anyone wondering. Skarbrand was Khornes greatest warrior, always leading his greatest battles, spilling more blood and gathering more skulls than anyone. At one point defeating a coalition of the other 3 gods, among many other achievements. However, tzeench did his thing, and convinced Skarbrand that he was greater than Khorne himself. At one point, Khornes attention was elsewhere. Skarbrand chose this moment to attack. He actually caused a very small injury to Khorne. Khorne was pissed at the betrayal, but far worse than the betrayal was his attack when Khorne was distracted. For Skarbrands cowardice more than anything, Khorne literally chocked all his pride, greed, and just about every emotion other than all-consuming rage out of Skarbrand, and exiled him to the mortal realms.
so wait, if skarbrand had just told khorrne striaght up "im attacking you cause i wanna be my own chaos god' he wouldn't have been exiled because it would be a fair fight? thats fucking hilarious.
I feel sorry for Skarbrand. Sure, if he faced Khorne head on, the Special K would've put him in his place anyway, but he was Khorne's favorite general. He would've gotten a pat on the head and be sent off to bed, then Khorne looks at the rest of his followers and says, "That's why he's my favorite. As if any of you had the balls to challenge me." But Skarbrand had to go and do the one thing Khorne couldn't forgive. Poor stupid Skarbrand.
Personally, I struggle between aspects of Khorne, Tzeentch, and Nurgle. But if I had to choose one of the main 4, I'd go with Tzeentch. The knowledge he has to give will help with my craving of knowledge, love of lore videos like this one, and dislike of ignorance. All I have to do is play Tzeentch Roulette where I either become a Deamon Prince, Chaos Spawn of Tzeentch, or nothing and I remain human. I prefer the last option myself, give Tzeentch something entertaining from a mere mortal rather than an OP Daemon Prince or boring idiotic Chaos Spawn. Think Aekold Helbrass from Warhammer Fantasy with how he's a Melee Warrior Champion with the Lore of Life. But if I had to choose any kind of Chaos God... Hashut Vorgund Zharr Naggrund!!! Hashut Vorgund Zharr Naggrund!!! Greatest benefit for little to no downside. Best choice for Chaos God to worship.
Khorne has always been my favorite out of the big 4 (despite a brief dallance with Tzeentch), but watching this video got me really interested in Hashut, who I had literally never heard of before (granted, I hadn't heard of any of the ones after Malal, but still). My favorite villains are the iron tyrants (why do you think I play Space Marines, because I think they're the good guys?), and dwarves are my favorite fantasy race, so a tyrant of a chaos god who's beloved by chaos dwarves seems right up my alley! Solkan also really caught my interest, both for his extreme lawful tendencies and also because witch hunters are pretty badass. Thanks for giving me an obscure corner of lore to look up!
Honestly the best bet if you want to scheme and take power is to follow Khorne. Anybody smart enough to scheme should be smart enough not to trust a fellow schemer. Khorne on the other hand is a blunt weapon with very simple rules, once you've mastered those the rest of your plans can go forward without meddling. Just make sure you're always the strongest... and if you're a clever person it should be easy to know know when to claim the skull of a would be challenger before they have the strength to be a threat.
Harhar, Slanny dommy mommy for sures But seriously speaking if you get high enough esteem and Nurge would grant you the cycle of rebirth, you pretty much get rid of the fear of disease, get technical immortality and get to keep most of your own autonomy as long as you spread Nurgle's blessings.
As an ex-Bears fan that stopped watching football after Cody Parker kicked that double doink in 2019 against the Eagles i was not expecting the end of this video 😭
In the later Gaunt's Ghosts novels, you get a pretty good idea of what it's like to be a normal person on a chaos controlled Sabbat planet. It makes sense why you would be a member of Blood Pact or one of the other guy's groups. Yeah, it's obviously evil, but it's not as bad as being turned into a servitor, or worked to death in a manufactorum. Also, there's chaos magic all around, it's obviously real.
I think copyright preventing malal from being directly mentioned is great, because I feel it suits the renegade god that you can only mention in hushed whispers. Hes both canon and not canon, very fitting.
It’s weird but I don’t think Panc considers them to be a “true” chaos faction. Even back in fantasy the Horned rat was explicitly referred to as a minor chaos god and now even more so in AOS. They’ve always been a chaos faction but yeah I don’t get it either
Yup. I remember Marduk, one of the Dark Apostols becoming a temporary avatar of Slaanesh hirself when he got captured by Dark Eldar. So yeah, Word Bearers are onto something.
It seems like, aside from Nurgle, maybe, ANY of the gods could benefit you- the key is playing hard to get, and not screwing up too much. Seems like almost all of the champions who ended up on top either embraced their god of choice wholeheartedly or more likely, REFUSED to fully embrace any one god (like Abaddon/Archeaon)
Slaanesh might be the youngest, but s/he has the ability to eclipse the others. Their spheres of influence all overlap with Slaanesh's. Endless scheming and thirst for knowledge is not just a Tzeentch thing. That's excess...especially if it coincides with you wanting to be better than others. The obsession with murder and skulls to bring about never-ending bloodshed is also excess. Desiring to be the greatest warrior falls perfectly in line with Slaanesh and Khorne. As for Nurgle, the joy he and his daemons experience when spreading plagues is excess. Their own indolency can be excess. People don't look at this from a broad perspective and they just categorize the chaos gods into archetypes and generalizations believing that Khorne is only for warriors, Tzeentch is only for mages, Nurgle is only for happy losers, and Slaanesh is only for depraved hedonists. Excess in itself has limitless potential and it applies to way more than the basic "sex, drugs, and rock and roll". Look at it this way...a bodybuilder obsessed with taking steroids to look good and be stronger would be a Slaanesh worshipper. Being a meathead is secondary to what that person is experiencing mentally. Steroids are an addiction. You get addicted to the sensation.
I ran a game of Black Crusade where Zuvasin was the messenger of Malal and was trying to bring Malal back into the Warp by tricking some Eldar Corsairs into freeing Isha from Nurgle’s realm to sacrifice her. Fun times, and it’s MY canon.
8:15 yeah Ben got the powers of a God when he was 15-16, managed to save the universe multiple times (most of them without said reality warping power), and even got involved in a war spanning the time span continuum.
If I'm not mistaken, that was the alien that could unmake reality. The only reason it doesn't is because there are two entities inside it who bicker constantly over what to do.
@@nickclemitus4598there are some draw backs to alien x powers. The main one us that ben has to basically debate, bicker and argue with 2 separate personalities because celestial sapiens all have 2 personalities.
@@jonathanathor117 the Omnitrix itself is a nigh multiversal device. It's main function just happens to be focused on transformation. Ben definitely takes out even the Chaos Gods. Not necessarily easily but wouldn't be too hard
Based on pure drip alone, Tzeentch wins my vote. I mean, look how badass Tzeentch marauders and chaos knights look like in WHF. Hell, even in 40k they're the best looking traitor marines - shit, Ahriman looks incredible. Even Tzeentch's demons are just flat out more cool and interesting than the others. Like, with Khorne, Slaanesh or Nurgle, you're basically choosing if you want angry demons, gamer demons or horny demons. Tzeentch is basically like "fuck that, how about terrifying multi-limbed blobs with razor sharp teeth, flying mantis rays that kill you by screaming, whatever the fuck a flamer is supposed to be, and a terrifying giant bird-man with rows of razor sharp teeth that looks like it just stepped right out of The Dark Crystal. Oh, and, if you're cool enough, you get to fly around by standing on a floating disc that contains the trapped soul of a demonic screamer, leaves trails of fire, and has so many sharp things stuck to it you can literally kill your enemies by flying into them like the Green Goblin." Not to mention, with Tzeentch you literally can't lose ever because what appears to be losing is always just part of the plan, which literally makes you a winner.
you also get to join the god that could easily win the great game but chooses not to. its implied in both fantasy and 40k that tzeetch allowed the other chaos gods to shatter him as otherwise he would have won the great game, which would have either killed him through starvation of no souls to feed on or at least left him with no mortal realms to toy with, which wheres the fun in that. the other chaos gods vie to destroy the mortal realms despite the fact them winning would starve them out and probably kill them. tzeetch is the only one smart enough to know the current balance of power between the chaos gods and the mortal realm is the best situation for them as they get to feed off the followers and keep the mortal realms just occupied enough fighting chaos that they pose no real threat to stopping chaos long term, without destroying the civilizations that feed them tzeetch is also the only chaos god that could exist in warhammer without the grimdark. nurgle fades away once antibiotics are invented. slaanesh fades away once crazy horror orgies are outlawed, khorne fades away when brutal war becomes a rarity rather than the norm, but tzeetch? magic, innovation and change will always be constant in some form. if anything industrialization in fantasy and humanity re discovering dark age of technology blueprints in 40k would empower tzeetch even more.
@@sovietunion7643 what? nurgle can exist with antibiotics around lol, it's not just disease, it's decay. decay of the mind, of life, of civilization. none of them "fade away"
