Which is Better? Star Wars Legion vs Star Wars Shatterpoint! Comparisons and Contrasts! 

We all know the answer is Armada.

I will stick with Legion, I love the army lists and the unit upgrades. I still want Tuskans!

Always going to be a Legion guy, and hope new stuff comes out for both!

As i see from the reviews shatterpoint is more of character based game, versus legion's army building. I'll stick with legion, and hope we still have a good many years of content

This video was actually super pertinent to me because I am just getting into Star Wars ground based miniatures (been playing Armada for about a year) and so it was a tough decision between these two. Ultimately even with all the hype around Shatterpoint with it's release, I ended up deciding on Legion, I love the scale of legion, I like being able to have just a lot of minis on the board, and for space I just picked up a 3x6 plastic Walmart table for playing armada, we have to use a side table for cards but it works. As someone who mainly plays at home, homebrewing is pretty easy for me so If my friends and I want to mix factions for legion we totally can so that ends up not being a problem for us, and from the things I have watched legions objectives also seem like they are more easily built into an immersive experience where as shatterpoint seems more board gamey (just my personal take). Fortunately for me all the aforementioned hype around Shatterpoint has one of my local game stores getting rid of their legion stock so I got a core set and Blizzard force box for both 40% off.

I think that was a very accurate and fair description of Shatterpoint. It also completely encompasses everything I don’t like about it, I’ll be sticking with Legion. I’m glad you and other people can enjoy it though, I do feel it is a unique game.

Thanks for this! I'm currently deciding between these two, so this is helpful!

I just got into Legion right before shatterpoint went up for pre order. I think shatterpoint looks awesome but I'm invested in Legion now 😅. But I think there's room in this world for both

It's hard to compare as they are two totally different games. At the moment I'm sticking to Legion as it has the rebels and empire, which Shatterpoint doesn't as yet. I grew up with the original trilogy and that era will always be my favourite and I'm not that bothered by the clone wars stuff. If someone else I know gets shatterpoint, I'll give it a go and see what it's like and might get it when there's forces I'm interested in.

Thanks for this video it helped me decide which to start saving for. I was leaning towards legion this sealed it.

Before watching, my guess is the conclusion will be Armada.

One of the key factors that you touched on, for me personally, is the price differences. As a newbie to skirmish games I feel the obvious choice for me would be shatterpoint. With the long term investment vs short term of both games. The higher buy in initially with shatterpoint most likely stays lower than long term investments in legion expansions and terrain costs, table costs etc. Like your review video mentioned I’m excited for shatterpoint mainly due to ease of access (ofc the Star Wars theme helps too lol)

There’s definitely a space for both games and I think it could just depend on my mood on the day as to whether i would take out Legion or Shatterpoint, or even Armada or X-wing. They all scratch a different itch & no one game can replace any of the others.

I'm going to start painting the Shatterpoint core set real soon. Excited for that!

Ive really been looking into playing legion and your vids are really helping. Ive never really been a table top war gamer before but im excited to start.

Completely new to tabletop miniatures games (haven’t played a single game yet) and I am grateful for this video! Love the game difference explanations on things I wouldn’t know or consider. One teeny tiny nit is that as a new player some terms are completely unfamiliar, e.g. “tabling”, but all in all helped me to decide that Shatterpoint is the direction I want to go (mainly because of thematic team building!). Thanks again and looking forward to learning a lot more.

Legion guy all the way. Can’t wait to see what is on the horizon.

Great review which helped me out no end, many thanks, Steve

Answered a lot of questions for me. Thanks crabbok

This video was very informative on which game to get into

Having just started into legion in the past year or so, it is hard to justify buying another game and learning a new system. Though, the models look awesome.

Thanks for the comparaison, thinking about trying shatterpoint!

Thanks for the video I’ll most likely be copin those tokens

I'm hoping both games do well. I'm heavily invested in Legion and encouraged by the continued love given to it by Atomic Mass.

Thank you. I was wondering about this since SP was announced.

Hmm good to know! I'm wanting to get into this miniature realm, ideally I'd love to get into both of these!

As a board gamer, the hobby aspect has kept me away from miniature games. But the Star Wars theme and smaller model count have brought me in, so I am going with Shatterpoint. Thanks for the video!

Im seriously considering shatterpoint because of the model size. Only having 3 models as a team is kinda appealing to me from a painting and building perspective lol. Even a clone team in legion is pretty large despite it being an elite army and since im into 40k too itd be kinda tough to paint that many models.

I think the reason I like shatterpoint so much, is purely for the cartoon style of their miniatures. I adore clone wars, and star wars rebels, and it's super fun to have those shows in a wargame form

Thanks for the comparison. I think there's a big difference in the importance of "Turn Zero" between the two games as well.

I'm gonna stick to legion, I just love the waves of troop running across the board, and I know it's not how it's supposed to be played but 800pts on a 3x3 table makes your rounds much faster and deadlier and is still a huge amount of fun, so while I'd love to play it on a full sized game, my dinning table will do for now😂

Looks so awesome! This video just tipped the scales and totally SOLD me on this game.... That terrain will work so nice for other scifi games, like OPR Firefight, etc... and is a nice change from the style of the stuff i have already... Gotta have this set, and a few expansions...

Always been interested in Star Wars Legion, but Shatterpoint looks like the perfect way for me to get into the Star Wars miniatures scene. I personally far prefer skirmish games to big army games. More intimate, intense and personal!

Always going to be a Legion user; thank you for the video! Have been looking into Shatterpoint and wasn't sure what to ask, you answered them!

We need to trademark “Bowling for Stormtroopers” stat !!!

I just jumped into legion. I saw shatterpoint coming and was trying to hear the answers to these questions. I think the large army v army model is more exciting to me. I do wonder about is both worth having.

I prefer Shatterpoint just for being a low model count game. I just don't have the time/energy anymore to do large scale army games. I have considered using minis from Legion in Stargrave though, which is another game system that is more to my liking.

I feel like Legion is the more tactical, strategic game with bigger unit counts, while Shatterpoint is quicker, more focused and not as in-depth tactically. I personally started 40K instead of Legion, and Shatterpoint is for a quick, fun game. With X-Wing, Armada, and Shatterpoint - Legion was 1 too many Star Wars game for my wife lol

Thank You for the comparison!

Can't asy myself at the moment because my Shatterpoint is still in the process of being put together, but I'll continue to look forward to games of both!

Thanks for the video!

I just wish they would have used the same scale. I use legion minis for the RPG. It would be nice to have an additional source for that, but with the minis being different scales it's not going to look right.

I'm in love with both these games. Legion has been the Miniatures game I was waiting for. With the release of both Special Operations and Shatterpoint however, I've really been enjoying the smaller squad size. I'm scaling down my Legion library and will be more picky with my Shatterpoint purchases so i don't over do either.

Shatterpoint is my Legion. I love the concept of Skirmish over Army because I spend so much time painting and creating everything, its heartbreaking to lose half a painted squad in one turn.

Keep the good content up m8

I’m trying to get into Legion but this was a good comparison!

I bought Shatterpoint a week ago and havent played a round yet but I am eger to find out wich game is better for me. Greetings from Germany and keep up the great Content. 👍

Like the Juan Solo T-shirt, got the same one. 😁

Thanks for the video.

I'm just getting into Legion and feel like it is much more my play style, but I do want to try Shatterpoint at some point.

I almost bought legion, but now I lean more towards shatter point. Thanks for your comparison!

I have invested in both Legion and Shatterpoint. But I do (at this time) prefer Legion.

Thanks for the great video. Each game scratches a different itch for me. I see Legion is a miniatures war game. Shatterpoint is a board game with cool miniatures. The strategies are different. I like them both and plan on playing both.

It is fun having a game with hard to kill characters and flexibility to build crazy cross faction teams that don't depend on having tons of redundant expansions to beef up your team

Thank you for making this video. Legion never worked for me, but I am considering Shatterpoint

I dumped a bunch of money into Legion right before shatterpoint was announcement. My commitment has been made.

Played Legion since it was released and picked up Shatterpoint a week ago. I like both, but I'm enjoying painting the shatterpoint miniatures more.

I feel like Shatterpoint is far more interesting to a broader audience just looking for fun with miniatures, vs legion and the wargaming crowd (which I definitely belong in). I'm looking forward to playing Shatterpoint with my family! Next up, I wish we could get an "epic" scaled star wars wargame. Thank you for all of your coverage of star wars games. I've heavily used your "what to buy" videos for getting into each legion faction!

Great video. Also, the initial assembly and painting will be much less for Shatterpoint. Thats half the fun for me but could see that being annoying if you are in a hurry to play. Myself i prefer that tactical component of Legion and will probably buy Armada instead of Shatterpoint.

Crabbok is so underrated

I now have both! I think they have different sweet spots for tabletop gaming. As I get older I do find myself with a preferance for skrimsh games.The other major pointt is I find a lot of my non gaming freinds who won,t touch a wargame like legion will happily sit down for Shatterpoint.

Never got into legion, as i was still heavy into Imperial assault at the time. What i have seen of Shatterpoint looks good, i might pick it up but only Galactic civil war era.

I think Shatterpoint is pretty true to the spirit of the Clone Wars episodes. Some clones and droids might die, but Dooku and Anakin are always “fine” by the end of the episode.

Leaving a comment for the contest. :D

I've played legion before and it was ok. I haven't tried Shatter point, but once Grievous comes out I'd really like to try it

Thank you for this video it help me decide. Now I'm sure I will buy Shatterpoint maybe even both.

I need something that's pre-painted, like x-wing/armada

If there is a terrain piece for a speeder bike we might get a speeder bike hero. I agree this might be as big as they get for vehicles.

Haven't bought in to shatterpoint yet, don't have anyone currently to play. Still have my imperial assualt and rune wars, so yes do wonder

I'm more of a collector/hobbyist than a gamer when it comes to minis, so I'm a bit torn. Currently I'm sticking with Legion, since the scale just matches up a little better with some of the other mini ranges I collect like Warhammer and Dungeons & Dragons. It also currently has a selection for vehicles and such, which has always been one of the big advantages of smaller scale figures. From a pure collecting/painting standpoint, though, I could see where others might gravitate more towards the slightly larger scale and character focus of Shatterpoint. It just depends on what you want to focus on from a hobby perspective.

I like them both, but I do lean towards Legion. I ca t wait for the Ghost crew

I never quite got into Legion because I was bummed that I couldn't play a bunch of named characters together, so Shatterpoint will definitely scratch that itch. One way they could get vehicles in there -- ultimate encounters, like MCP has...

Shatterpoint has me. I suffer from carpal tunnel, so painting gets literally painful for me. I'll always go for a smaller model count.

I was invested in Legion util all the rules bloat - and along came another game that totally took over for me, A Song of Ice and Fire. Now, that game will have to vacate the premises for Shatterpoint . and I will take up playing armada again, dusting off those old ships and give them a new coat of paint. Have not tride Shatterpoint yet, still in the gluing-up phase, but I think I will really like this one.

Shatterpoint is more what I hoped Legion would be. I always prefer small skirmish games. I played Legion because of the theme, not the game. Shatterpoint is what I've been waiting for.

03:53 - Legion also has a Clone Wars core set

If we get Thrawn in Shatterpoint it’d be fun to have Thrawnakin like the books

I'm actually kind of surprised at your answer. I was fully expecting it to be close but that you would have leaned towards Legion. It does respark my interest in Shatterpoint though. I had been up and down on it. Might have to actually buy the starter now and just dive in. If I dont like it, I have some col models and smore terrain for Legion!!

Never actually tabled an opponent in legion unit the other week when I used two units of fully decked out Dark Troopers...had to apologise to my opposition as didn't realised how bad they were unit I used them

"...you MUST do murder." There it is. That's what I came here for. Now there's no question in my mind. Legion >> Shatterpoint

if shatterpoint terrain is within acceptable limits to silouettes, it could still be an interresting investment for me as a not-yet-started legion player. "free" terrain. :)

I have Crisis Protocol for skirmish. I'm ok with having Legion as my only star wars game. Well, x-wing too 😂

I'm a skirmisher. I don't have the tolerance to paint 20+ white suits of armour. Really hoping for Delta Squad for Shatterpoint. :D

Both Awesome. Sometimes the real answer to these questions is which one is which one is more availible in your local community. Friends, family and game stores matter alot more I beleive !! :D

I still think Legion should have been an Armada style game for ground combat. but set in the clone wars. i felt it tred into Imperial Assaults' space, with miniatures being similar sizes, and a lot of similar units.

IMPERIAL ASSAULT FOREVER !!!!!!!

Still waiting for the Mace Windu-Jango Fett Valentine’s Day bundle for Star Wars Legion.

I love legion because of the army view looks more similar to the big battles of the films

I prefer the scale of legion and the army building of it too. Shatterpoint doesn't allow much freedom in army building

I definitely enjoy the candid compare and contrast nature of this video. I was late to the game with legion and do not know many people who play it, but have picked up the shatter point core box and I am very much looking forward to giving it a shot (once I finish moving)

If the minis were compatible with both games I'd have both but I've invested way to much into legion to justify buying it. I'd just magnetize my minis on SP bases and call it a day

love both games!

Dudes on a map is my favorite type of game

Love Legion. And like the terrain for Shatterpoint. :)

My big unanswered question remains. How much does Shatterpoint feel like Star Wars? From what I’ve seen so far, it just doesn’t have that Star Wars feel to it. I’m also a bit surprised you like Shatterpoint better as the game seems to me like like X-Wing vs Armada. If Legion is the larger Armada-type game, Shatterpoint is the smaller X-Wing-type game - but you LOVE Armada. Anyway, at this point I have almost zero desire to try out Shatterpoint unless it really has a stronger Star Wars feel than Legion (which I’m thinking it doesn’t).

3;20 The skirmish mode ruined Imperial Assault. Imperial Assault was an RPG, dungeon crawl style game played on tiles, that pitted non canon heroes of the Rebellion against the Empire over the course of an 11 game campaign. It was a great game, but FFG wanted that Game's Workshop money and IA didn't sell enough plastic. Plus Hasbro disputed that it was a board game, which also didn't help.

I really think they should have made Legion compatible with Shatterpoint, like Killteam or Warcry

As always, love the video. You were frank, I’m going to be brutal. AMG have found a way to sell us all the same stuff again for more money. They’ve basically made Star Wars Crisis Protocol. For me this is a pointless project that despite the defending comments, it’s a heck of a lot of money. Core set plus a couple of expansions and i’m 250 bucks out of pocket is insane. No sorry, I won’t be investing in Shatterpoint. Legion every day for me.

They are very different games and scratch different itches. For me the control and predicability from legion is more appealing than what shatterpoint has to offer. I will still play Shatterpoint but specific thematic squads and that is it.

"hey it's dudes on a map" -crabbok