i must say I did love the ride of the new Model 3 and the sound proofing. The deal is great on the Model Y as it has a 1.8% APR, having said that the payments are equivalent to £549 per month once the lump sum has been factored in. I currently have a payment around £400 for my Kia E Niro but the Model 3 is now cheaper than the level 4 Kia Niro EV. I am now researching the best way to buy one, as my current lease ends in 3 months time!
My choice would be a Y. Not because we're a big family, in fact there's only the 2 of us, but because I prefer a commanding view of the road, and I find my creaking joints protesting if I have to get in a low vehicle lol. My current vehicle is a 10 yr old Santa Fe.
Personally don't think it'll be to long till Apr comes down on the Highland and deals start. Once the initial hype is over the wait times aren't that long already
Just picked up model y rwd few days ago on 3yr lease, £3591 deposit and £399pm 10k miles. Couldn't resist the deal. Enjoying the experience so far, my old 7 series was nice but out of warranty
Hi Ian, MY. I need something easy to get in and out of these days. Also the hatchback is kinder to my back. Still saving but essentially I'm there for a MY RWD. Still want some headroom though, I'd be cutting into my emergency fund. Purchase vs lease is an interesting point, to date I've always owned my cars for around 10 years, not so certain that's the right approach with a fast evolving ev marketplace and £399/month is a steal.
I'll be honest, I own a M3 LR 2023 (not highland). I would buy again a M3 (prefer it to MY), but I am looking today: PCP from Tesla, 1.8% for MY and 9% (!!!) for M3 Highland.... I don't think that I would be able to justify this difference in APR....Btw I got the M3LR with 0% APR last September, it is not £399, it is £280p/m :))
I test drove both the y and 3 before ordering the 3, I preferred the handling and height of the 3, not a fan of big/high riding/4x4/chelsea tractor type cars, I prefer lower/more nimble and the y was not as enjoyable to drive. Only had it 3 weeks but it has been great so far, I got the long-range as wanted the performance and range over rwd and having had saloons for 8 years I'm fine without a hatchback. Have just done a 2day trip covering 200miles total and returned with 35% battery having started at 100% so happy with that, got 196wh/mi on way home. I know as I normally only charge to 80% I could have got the rwd but on the times I need it I like to know I'm less reliant on public charging, and have that speed hit to satisfy the former boy racer in me!
We have both; I traded in my Y LR for a new 3, and the cost to exchange was £4300. We now have 2 Model 3's 2 years apart The New Y at 399 is a fantastic deal and the refresh will be amazing. The SR 3 range is equal to the LR Y, but more refined.
There's three things that I think about between the Model 3 and the Model Y. In a Model Y, for an older person, the height of the seat above the ground when getting into it. Also the ability to bang your shin on the lower bodywork with the trailing shin as you lean into it. I believe the lying-down room in the back of a Model Y is around 6 feet so you could stop and have a rest with the AC going. The Model 3 while driving really reminds me of my thoughts about the sports cars from which the original Tesla sprang. You can see those guards and you can imaging you are driving an out and out sports car. Similarly, when seated in the Model Y, it reminds me more of a 60's Volkswagen with that smaller (seemingly) screen higher and further away. I was always Model 3 and I still am, but....
Hi Ian, at the risk of embarrassing myself how does leasing beat depreciation ? Is this only for company car people ? I'm a retired private buyer, I bought my MY 9 months ago, it's the red / white combination, only covered 3400 miles. Hate to think what I would get for it now. Personally it's too complicated for me, wish to go back to something smaller and easier to understand. Anyway please explain how leasing would be better .... in simple terms .... thank you.
A car is a depreciating asset - it drops in value. When you own that asset you suffer the loss in value. If you lease you only pay a contracted amount and the leasing company suffers the loss in value
@@no-oneman.4140I think he means buying new vs leasing, the 30% you lose driving it off the forecourt might be more than the cost of leasing... but why buy new, buy used so the first owner took the depreciation hit, drive it as long as you like, and at least you'll get something back when you sell it, rather than saying goodbye to that dead money spent on leasing
I own my BMW X5 outright that has done 90k miles. We have a salary sacrifice in work and I am a high rate tax payer covering around 17k miles a year. Trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on a model Y performance, test drove it and loved it. There is no deposit and £560 a month includes tyres, taxes, insurance, consumables and road assistance and never worry about any repair bills. I could probably get between £16-18k if I sold my X5 and stick it into my ISA. My head has always said best have a car outright and run it into the ground but I’m not so sure when you look at the cost outlay with servicing, tyres and insurance etc that I have to pay out for on the X5. Decisions decisions.
@@Rambo9700 I know what you mean I’m in a similar position. The maths doesn’t lie though it’s cheaper to lease if you want a car that’s less than 10 years old and somewhat luxurious. Depreciation is a killer!
@@GroznyjGradHunter in the end I did get the Tesla and sold the X5. So far all is going well. Model Y is surprisingly more practical than my X5 was. Loads of room.
I test drove the MB3 and Model Y. The MB3 has a forgiving suspension, but the Model Y's build quality was much better inside and sturdier. The MB3 has flimsy internal side panels. I was told there is a difference between cars assembled in Belgium and China, with the ones from China having better quality.
The 399 deal is now available for 3 years or 407 for 4 years. You can alter the finance on the model 3 highland to the same and it comes out at 605pm, yet the car is listed 5k cheaper than a Y. 3 year cost is 18k for a Y or 25K for a highland. This is an enormous discount by Tesla and must be to stop sales of the Y nosediving while people wait for the Juniper. Finger on the trigger just now
In my option, The new model 3 has a much better suspension and it’s quieter. The newer Model Y’s (US) have a new comfort suspension. However, right now the Model Y is the better buy with the $7,500 tax credit for any option RWD , AWD & Performance. Cheers ⚡️😎
Lease is the way to go if you can get a great deal like the current MY offer. Unfortunately my 2022 M3 SR is in negative equity with my current PCP - Tesla are offering £24.5k part/ex for an 8,500 mile 18 month car - ouch! My guaranteed final value in 30 months time is £21k so will just have to let my PCP run its course and enjoy the car. In a similar position with my 2021 ŠKODA Enyaq , however, the depreciation is lower, but again will let the PCP run its course. Did think about trading both in for a Y, however as both current cars cost a total £457 per month even the current Tesla Y lease doesn’t seem attractive to me.
I had same problem buy or lease Tesla model highland. I opted to buy with plan to save for next car over 4 years. My main reason for getting Highland RWD was the efficiency and range with access to Tesla supper chargers. My last car was Hyundai Ioniq BEV. The Tesla is upgrade with no loss on efficiency with software that work for the driver. Bonus no service costs for 4 year. The Highlander seems to be BYD seal killer.
I have a model Y arriving on Wednesday of next week. I have leased through NHS Fleet solutions and it is £375 per month with nothing down, 13K miles per year, insurance, recovery, servicing, and tyres for a 3 year term. It is done on a salary sacrifice scheme hence the cheaper price than Tesla can offer as I save on tax, NI and pension. I am pretty happy with that deal. it is the RWD version, so base model in white. cheers J
I hope Model 3 Highland is overpriced on lease because it has only just been released. I really want a Model Y highland because the suspension on the current Model Y is too harsh for my local roads. Model 3 Highland might be tempting if the price comes down to reality "because I don't really need this space [Model Y] in reality" - my wife has an S-Max for family hauling.
I have tried both and the model 3 highland is for me a better car to drive. The reason i could suggest a model Y is if you really need the huge trunk and a lot of space on the rear seats. I said huge because the model 3 is already very good on this points. However, on any other points the model 3 will be better.
I am considering a model 3 highlander as a company car which we will purchase, as I can, as I own the company, by using 100% of the company's capital allowance of the vehicle eg. £41,500 and offset this against my company's profit this FY and mitigate paying 25% corporation tax on the £41,500 eg. £10,375. Additionally all costs associated with car I can claim back for the life of the vehicle. Of course I will set up a P11D but the BIK is only 2% at this time. Note this can only be achieved when you buy a brand new 100% electric EV. This is what 1000's of business owners are and have been doing for years now. Note it does not work if you lease a car, as the Company needs to own the car eg. purchase it/PCP the car. The question becomes when you do the maths excel sheet analysis, what rate % are Tesla offering on the new model 3 highland car..... and at the moment Tesla are offering 9% interest rate CCP (company contract purchase same as PCP except Company is paying the deposit and monthly costs).
@@justgetatesla Was 8.5% 4 weeks ago. Yes 9% on £41,500 equates to adding £9,000 approx to the total PCP package price. So in effect the car is £50,000. For example Audi are offering 4.9% on a Q4 EV at present on PCP and some EV cars are 0% rate on PCP.
The sound system and trim is exactly the same on all the model Ys, in 2023 on the Shanghai built cars imported to the U.K. except for front fog lights not on the RWD
@@justgetatesla I was surprised when I got my Y RWD, I wasn’t expecting it. I was going for a RWD model 3 until I found a great lease deal on the Y which was cheaper in the middle of last year.
You said it, do I need all this space on a DAILY basis, “daily basis “ isn’t good enough. You buy for biggest item ie . Carrying a desk , bed, dogs etc. I need a car with an opening sunroof as I’ve carried , wood, guttering etc with it poking through sunroof. The 3 should of been a hatch just to give that extra versatility carrying big bulky items.
Traditionally I've been a buyer not a leaser as I keep my cars for 10 years each, as that was traditionally cheaper. The lease deal quoted would have been 62k, although it's more complex than that as the lease would always be in warranty . You will have to pay road and luxury car tax
Happy owner of Perl, a 2023 MYLR and I'd recommend it to anyone who is ready for an EV. However, the Model 3, especially the new one, has one or two trump cards over the Model Y. First, many (like my wife) who call the looks of the Model Y "boring" because they fail to appreciate the subtle beauty in its stouter bulk, think the Model 3 is among the better looking cars they've ever seen. More importantly to me and the thing that may one day convince me to add a Model 3 to the stable is the cars efficiency. I've heard some claim it can reach up to 5 miles per kwh (200 watts per mile). I rarely see that in the Y, averaging close to 3 miles per kwh (330+ watts per mile). I'd certainly want to confirm that I could actually achieve at least 4mi/kwh, if not 5, before I'd buying a new 3, but if it is really that good, I would find it tempting in a few years.
Hi for what it’s worth, I’m running a 2023 model 3 RWD and getting 190-220 kWh/mile, for the life of my car 4,500 miles 218 kWh The trade off is more space and I miss the large hatchback of the Y
@@justgetatesla true. But I think that deeper red they lay on in Berlin is even better … though practically speaking, I couldn’t justify to myself paying thousands more for a paint job… at least not yet.
As you mention, you do research your subject when talking about EV’s but oddly not when you make comments about ‘right wing media’ whatever that is and OFCOM REGULATED GBNews. Every time I’ve watched it I’ve been astonished at the diversity of guests in relation to other broadcasters. Matthew stadlen was a regular for a long time and you can’t get much more hard left than that. Were you bullied as a kid by football thugs who you associate with the right wing maybe? Nowt as strange as folk
Because of a dog I need a hatchback, was gutted the M3 was hatchback and still am as I don't need the extra space for passengers or boot in a Y, and would happily save the extra money . Maybe a model 2 will suit my needs? The smaller the car the more use a hatchback is.
Regarding wltp and range , I've got the 21 LR and my 3 year average is 203 whm , or 4.97 whm , admittedly I'm retired and I do restrict cruise speed a bit , but it's mainly shortish trips , avoid HVAC sometimes but amazing efficiency and I know the new one is even better .
Just get an older petrol car, most people don’t have access to home charging, unless you want to get sued by someone tripping up over your charging cable! And small kids get bigger unless you haven’t realised, buy a car run it into the ground and save yourself and to some degree human life! The earth will not die until the sun explodes, but that’s another story! ❤
