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Firstly, excellent video. Great research to put this together, id agree with most of your votes but id still vote for jessica lange in tootsie, although garr is a strong contender.
Thank you so much! I think Lange is likable, but I just can't see that performance as Oscar-worthy (my overall vote that year would go to Glenn Close).
In her autobiography, Irene Mayer Selznick wrote about the night when GONE WITH THE WIND triumphed at the Academy Awards. After the ceremony, she found Olivia DeHavilland in tears and ask why the actress was crying. DeHavilland admitted that she was very disappointed that she lost. Selznick told her that Hattie McDaniel would never have another night like that night and would never get a role that would give her the opportunity to show her talents as an actress. Selznick also told DeHavilland that her that her star was rising and after GONE WITH THE WIND, it would be only a matter to time until she got an Oscar of her own. Selznick told DeHavilland to dry her eyes and to go and congratulate McDaniel. Within ten years, DeHavilland would have two Best Actress Oscars
Another top tier video! You keep making these great videos addressing topics no one does. One of the greatest Oscar-themed channels! That being said, Hattie's acting left such an impression in me when I watched "Gone with the wind" as a kid. Her acting is stunning and almost brought me to tears. With "Papermoon", I believe they did not want to give Best Actress to a child and that's why she was labeled as supporting (being her dad's co-lead took a major part here). And well, though I'm always gonna be happy Jamie Lee Curtis won an Oscar for EEAAO, I think you summed up that situation perfectly with your comment. I'm sure Hsu will get more nominations and eventually her well-deserved Oscar.
Thank you! So happy you enjoyed it! McDaniel's performance (and win) are legendary, though I'm sure she wasn't thinking that during production. And Hsu will be back...
I almost chose Whitty because she had more edge than Wright's bland performance. Hayes was cute, but I just can't see that performance as Oscar-worthy.
My choices: Kramer vs. Kramer - Streep (of course) Chicago - zeta-jones ( Agree this was a scene stealing performance) Everything everywhere - S. Hsu Paper moon - O'Neal of course although this is the biggest case of category fraud ever Last picture show - Leachman Tootsie -Terri Garr Gone with the wind - Hattie (of course) Not seen Fighter Bullets over Broadway - Both are great but WIEST of course! Not seen GA Airport -Stapleton - Can someone explain how Hayes won this Oscar? Mrs. Miniver - Hmm this one's tough. I would choose May Whitty. Teresa Weight was sweet but very affected. The Help - Chastain
@@oscarman42 Also I forgot to say I also really liked Kahn's performance. And the category fraud turned out to be best for Tatum because she won an Oscar in supporting. She would not have won an Oscar over Glenda Jackson in lead. Among the three nominated lead actress performances that I watched for 1973, Glenda was best I think.
@@umbertlambert2113 Absolutely. The studio knew that no way would a 10-year-old win Lead Actress, so they safely suggested her for Supporting, which, of course, the role clearly wasn't. You and I are in the minority about Jackson's win - glad I'm not alone on that one!
Even though 1973 wasn't the strongest year for Lead Actress, I wonder if O'Neal could have won against the others nominated. Of course, placing her in Supporting was the safe bet, but unfortunately, Kahn became an "also-ran."
Previously at the golden globes, Tatum lost to Glenda Jackson who won best actress that year not to mention it is rare for actors to win a Oscar for their film/acting debut out of all the 16 actors who accomplished this, majority of them were in supporting and Tatum is of course one of them. For best actress, babra Streisand, Shirley booth, Julie Andrews and Marlee matlin are the only ones to accomplish this and besides Tatum only 2 other actors under the age of 18 won competitive Oscars, so I wonder if she would’ve truly won with these circumstances
IMO only: Helen v Maureen: the comedy/dramatic combinations overshadowed full drama. Cloris v Ellen: It was Cloris's to lose. Amy v Melissa: AA was quiet & subtle, ML loud & abrasive Dianne v Jennifer: DW flamboyant & memorable, JT just ok. Meryl v Jane: JA although good, MS had the showy dialog scenes that really drew us in and I felt her pain. Octavia v Jessica: JC was so likeable, OS exceptional & agree I wish they tied for the win.
Great analysis. A few of these races were close; others not so much. As I've stated here (and several times previously), I just can't wrap my head around Hayes' win. There was nothing Oscar-worthy about it (cute, yes).
Streep over Alexander, Z-J over Latifah, haven't seen "Everything" yet, Kahn over O'Neal (should've been nominated for lead), I'd give the edge to Burstyn over Leachman, Garr over Lange, DeHavilland/McDaniel tie!, didn't see "The Fighter", Weist over Tilly, I don't remember "Gentleman's Agreement" well enough to choose, maybe Stapleton over Hayes, Dame Mae over Wright, Spencer/Chastain tie!
So many times there are two nominations in this category it's interesting how often one of them actually wins instead of splitting the vote .Doing this for the ones who didn't win and who we would choose would be interesting . Kramer vs Kramer -Streep Chicago -Zeta Jones Everything Everywhere All At Once -I would have to flip a coin the both stand out to me Paper Moon -Kahn The Last Picture Show -Leachman Tootise -Garr Gone With The Wind -McDaniel The Fighter -hate the movie but Adams Bullets Over Broadway -Wiest -master class in how to overact and make it work Gentleman's Agreement -Holm Airport -Stapleton Mrs .Miniver - Wright I guess The Help -Chastain and Spencer .I love these two so much
I love melissa Leo performance in the fighter!!! It's what oscar voters Loved its big, showy and over the top. Amy adams was good in the fighter but wasn't as showy and big as Leo
I agree with all your pick except Hsu. While she was terrific, Jamie brought her whole history -- as the ur Scream Queen, as a superb comedienne -- to that role and she was magnificent. It may have been a career award, but it was a career performance and I think she deserved it.
While I like JLC, I just can't accept that performance as Oscar-worthy. But I'm certainly willing to hear thoughts on what I may have missed in that performance (just as I have stated to others who thought Hayes deserved it for "Airport").
@oscarman42 What I saw in JLC's performance were conscious flashes of Laurie Stroud, of her characters in True Lies and A Fish Called Wanda and even Perfect. I think she was marshaling that talent that great character actors like Thelma Ritter and Agnes Moorehead have, that ability to embody a character completely while simultaneously signaling to the audience "Hey, it's me!" JLC played her character with subtlety and panache, but seemed to wear her career highlights on her sleeve. I just thought she was perfect, and I can't imagine anyone else being so perfect for the role.
@@oscarman42 In defense of JLC --> Curtis took that role and made Dierdre an actual person rather than a caricature. She packed a lot into her limited screen time - the fight scenes, the emotional moments with Yeoh, the deadpan comic delivery during the office exchanges. Most actresses would have played up one aspect of the role. When she's on screen, she is the focal point. Trying to think who else could have pulled it off, Melissa McCarthy...Emma Thompson...
@@raymondtitano3819 I respectfully disagree. I think the performance was all caricature - whether it was JLC's choice or the Writer/Director duo's. JLC is worthy of an Oscar - just not for this.
My choices are very close to yours! Meryl Streep Catherine Zeta-Jones Stephanie Hsu Madeline Kahn Cloris Leachman (TLPS is my pick for the most well-acted film ever made, and Burstyn is my second favourite performance in it) Teri Garr Hattie McDaniel Amy Adams (I think her and Bale’s performances elevate the film and provide dignity to their characters that would be lacking in the hands of almost anyone else - their doorstep scene is a work of art and is a pivotal turning point, it had to be perfect and it was transcendent) Anne Revere Maureen Stapleton May Whitty (I like Wright but I think she needed more to do) Jessica Chastain (I agree with you this one is close! And their scenes together are amazing)
I was relieved to see you would have voted for both Jessica and Octavia. As for Teri Garr, that year I would have voted twice as well - for Teri and for Lesley Ann Warren in Victor/Victoria - two flawless performances.
If you have not seen Gentleman's Agreement, take the time to watch this powerful drama about the ordinary viciousness of antisemitism. It has renewed relevance today. In this early masterwork, Elia Kazan directs Gregory Peck in one of his best performances and Holmes and Revere and Maguire and others support beautifully in this classic drama.
Dorothy McGuire never got the recognition she deserved. Her only Oscar nomination was for GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT; she lost to Loretta Young for THE FARMER'S DAUGHTER. McGuire brought tears to my eyes with A TREE GROWS IN BROOKLYN and a smile to my face with THREE COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN. Throw in FRIENDLY PERSUASION and you have one hellva career.
@@oscarman42 I remember how deeply it affected me when I was younger and first saw it, stirring up rage against such injustice. I'm grateful for this film. Btw I was surprised that I agreed with everyone of your judgements except one. Respectfully disagreeing on Tootsie. I prefer Lange over Garr because Julie is central to the story and if not played correctly, with all the mystique and innocence the role requires, the whole film would be diminished. It's one of those key supporting roles. I admire in her career Lange's versatility. In this role she understands the character, reins herself in and presents the character simply and beautifully. When you contrast it to Frances from that year, her potentiality as an actress is finely revealed.
Darryl F. Zanuck thought that winning the Best Picture Oscar for GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT was a consolation prize for not winning the Best Picture award for WILSON three years earlier.
Dis 'n' dat As much as I love Celeste Holm as a actress, she did better work in COME TO THE STABLE and ALL ABOUT EVE. I would have voted for Anne Revere (yes, I know she won two years earlier for NATIONAL VELVET). I barely remember Holm's performance. Oscarman42, I know how much you love Cloris Leachman's performance in LAST PICTURE SHOW, I thought Ellen Burstyn was better and that Eileen Brennen was better than both. I keep forgetting Meryl Streep was in KRAMER VS. KRAMER, that is how much -- or is it how little -- of an impression she made on me. Teresa Wright was also nominated in the same year for Best Actress for PRIDE OF THE YANKEES; the Best Supporting Actress Award was a consolation prize of sorts. I agree that Maureen Stapleton should won for AIRPORT, the scene near the end of movie when she walks aimlessly through the airport was Oscar-worthy, However, after 50-plus years, it is Helen Hayes you remember when you think of AIRPORT (like it or not)
That's what makes the Oscars (and films in general) so interesting to discuss, because they are so subjective, as illustrated by how you enjoyed these performances differently than myself. I thought Revere was Revere in GA. Burstyn has done better work (but yes, Brennan was memorable). Teresa Wright was merely OK but I had to choose. You know my feelings about Maureen - and that last scene was so good. As always, thanks for the input.
Damn for me meryl is the best and most memorable part of Kramer vs Kramer especially her court room scene I still think about that scene more than the film as a whole
Emma Stone and Rachel Weiz for The favourite (2018), i know that both actrees lose the oscar with Regina King, but these two women were the second option to won the award in case that regina lost it, Weiz won the bafta, they have more screen time that Olivia Colman who won best actreess in that ceremony
A fascinating topic, and very well done. A couple of omissions (or maybe I missed them?): as mentioned blow, Gladys Cooper and Anne Revere for "The song of Bernadette" (1944); Eve Arden and Ann Blyth for "Mildred Pierce" (1946); and Celeste Holm and Thelma Ritter for "All about Eve" (1951).
Madeline Kahn should've won the next year for Blazing Saddles(which actually would've meant she won for Blazing Saddles & Young Frankenstein)&Linda Blair should've won for The Exorcist in 1973. But that wasn't the category you were going for.
Nice video idea! Kahn! Damn that monologue was good, classic character actor scene stealing...Cloris, again, she could have had ZERO lines and would have won the Oscar anyway..I cry every time. My current feelings on Tootsie and Kramer Vs. Kramer are not good - seeing the films today, they're painful for the female characters - that being said, GARR was robbed...
That comment about Maureen Stapleton reading the phone book made me smile. She was such a great, delightful actress. I especially enjoyed her in Interiors. She served as a huge Prozac pill for that depressing family.She was the highlight in that film, in my humble opinion.👍Ohby the way, love your channel.
@@oscarman42 Really? Next time I watch the movie, I'll pay attention to that detail. Your channel is always entertaining . I love to learn new movie trivia.Take care🙂👍
@@christineobrien7707 Yes! Woody Allen specifically had her character in color to contrast the drab, non-colors of the others. Always fun talking Oscar trivia, especially with one who appreciates Maureen Stapleton. 😉
I would've picked Helen Hayes over Maureen Stapleton because I feel the role had more of an impact in the movie but Maureen definitely the better acting part. I would also have picked Melissa Leo over Amy Adams. All the others I'm 100% in agreement. I knew your feelings about Jamie Lee Curtis so no surprise you picked Stephane Hsu, as would I.
I am becoming rather predictable! It's true...Hayes was more integral, but - for me - the "cute" factor just wasn't enough to warrant an Oscar (I would have chosen Karen Black that year). Also, I found Leo to be one-note. As for JLC's win, well, you know...
Very interesting video! I wonder if another one with Best Supporting Actors can also be made? Here is what I found: The Last Picture Show The Godfather Part 2 (had 3 nominated performances) Julia Ordinary People (another category fraud case) Terms of Endearment Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri Judas and the Black Messiah (in a what the hell moment and category fraud as well nominations). Please make that video. I would love to get your feedback on some of them. Getting back to the video, regarding Jennifer Tilly... I'm watching the Chucky TV series where she's allowed to brag about her Oscar nomination in one episode and talk about her family's Oscar nominations as well 🤭 I always get the impression that she can't escape that Bullet character. It's like she's always the same Jennifer Tilly. The tv series doesn't make it any easier for her as she switches from one character to the other. Very weird, indeed. 🙃 Thank you once again for a wonderful Oscar video!
Thank you once again for your support! A "Supporting Actor" version is worth looking into (love requests!). Interesting mention of Tilly, who I think is always playing a variation of that BOB character (and definitely hard to escape once typecast).
Hattie McDaniel. Piecing this together from various sources, it seems as if at that time (1940), the producer would decide in which category a performance would be placed. David Selznick wanted to do everything possible to make sure Vivien Leigh won "Best actress," hence Olivia de Havilland was placed in the "Supporting category --- despite having more screen time than Greer Garson ("Goodbye, Mr. Chips"), who was one of the five "Best actress" nominees. (P.S.: And how would go in 1964, with three "Supporting actress" nominees from Tom Jones"?)
@@oscarman42 I still don't understand the nominating process; specifically who does decide in which category a performance is placed, (There are times I quite honestly doubt that the Academy itself has any idea just what the guidelines are.)
@@willyboy3581 Great question. The studios "suggest" category placement for actors. However, it's ultimately up to the Actors branch of the Academy to choose the 5 nominees in each category. Most of the time they go along with what has already happened at the Golden Globes and SAG awards, but not always (Zeta-Jones was nominated for Best Actress at the GG but Supporting at SAG). Years ago, Susan Sarandon was pushed for Supporting Actress in "Atlantic City," but the Academy ended up nominating her for Lead Actress. So, you never know what can happen!
@@oscarman42 Very true, such as Agnes Moorehead winning both the New York Film Critics award and the National Board of review award as "Best actress" for "The magnificent Ambersons," but the Academy placed her in the "Supporting actress" category. And the what still must rank as the biggest "Say what?!!" in the Academy's history to date: Barry Fitzgerald being nominated for both "Best actor" and "Best supporting actor" for the same role in "Going my way" (1945).
Love the movie Airport but never agreed with Helen Hayes; win. Maureen Stapleton is so heartbreaking in her 11 minutes of screen time. Showed me how powerful subtle acting can be. Speaking of subtle its too bad Jane Alexander has never won despite 4 nods. Her 6 minute scene in All the Presient's Men is also an acting lesson in itself.
Agree with all of your choices,the issue Between Madeline Kahn is that she is actually supporting(except that i think Candy Clark should have won,ever since i was a child fell in love with her character in American Graffitti),another issue is The Help,Jessica was a little better than Octavia but Viola Davis was the true Best Supporting Actress,Emma Stone was the lead,Teresa Wright should have won for The Little Foxes and Gladys Cooper the year Teresa won for Ms MiniverJennifer Tilly was indeed better than Diane Weist but Kirsten Dunst(Interview With The Vampire,unnominated)was the true deserver,,besides them Leachman,Zeta Jones,Hsu,McDaniel,Garr,Holm and Meryl were the BSA of their categories
@@oscarman42 No,Teresa was also only a bit better than Dame May Whitty but mostly because Wright had such an incredible screen presence,but May as well,the problem is that she was outshined by Greer Garson and Teresa,what i mean is that Teresa should have won for The Little Foxes a year prior while Gladys Cooper should have won for Now,Voyager,at least to me it was a superior performance because i prefer dark characters over nice ones and believe me im no fan of Cooper's nominations for The Song Of Bernardette and My Fair Lady(Glynis Johns snub was 1965 biggest Oscar Robbery)
Olivia was brilliant, too, but she was a lead; Hsu was great, but Jaime was a career win; Cloris was brilliant; Terri Garr should have won. Lange is a waste of space.
Hard to imagine another lead in GWTW other than Vivien Leigh. Agree about JLC's career win (discussed in a previous video). Happy that others remember Garr's performance even though it was overshadowed by Lange.
Before AIRPORT, Hayes did only two films in the 1950s, MY SON JOHN in 1952 and ANASTASIA in 1956. She did some television in the 1950s and 1960s, but was thought of as a stage actress. She was called "The First Lady of the American Theatre." At the age of 70, she was introduced to a new generation after her win for AIRPORT. Yes, the roles she played in the 1970s were cute little old ladies. If you want to see one of her better performances, watch her and Ingrid Bergman play off each other in ANASTASIA. Hayes was 56 at the time playing the 82 year old Dowager Empress of Russia
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thought Amy adams should’ve won for the the fighter instead of Melissa Leo she, alongside hallie steinfield in true grits (which is another Tatum O’Neal category fraud situation) we’re better in addition to non nominated performances like Julianne moore in the kids are all right, mila kunis in black swan and Kimberly Elise in Tyler Perry’s for colored girls. Melissa won bc she pulled a Andrea riseborough and did the best self-campaigning win ever lol, but in retrospect amy should’ve won her first Oscar for that film. Same applies to Stephanie hsu and Jamie Lee Curtis if the Oscars were so in love with giving everything EEAO all the awards, Stephanie should’ve won best supporting actress plus it would’ve been historical to have 3 Asian actors win 3/4 Oscar categories. A24 was campaigning more Jamie bc of her legendary status and long overdue narrative, Stephanie dealt being in that “getting nominated to ride off the film coat tall” slot similar to the actress in Roma and Jackie weaver for siliver lining playbook but that’s unfair bc Stephanie have a outstanding performance and much better than Jamie. In contrasty to popular belief I think Jamie deserved her nomination bc she gave a really good performance much better than people give her credit but not the win, anyone in that category should’ve won but more so to Stephanie, Angela Bassett or Kerry condon
Sort of like Doubt Viola Davis and Amy Adams were nominated but neither won .There are a lot of double nominees in this category . It would be a whole list on it's own.By they way I would go with Davis .
@@oscarman42 Yes. I was fortunate enough to see her in a Tony winning performance as Dr. Gorgeous Titlebaum in The Sisters Rosenzweig. And in the Billie Holiday part (opposite Ed Asner) in Born Yesterday. She was FABULOUS! Both times.
@@oscarman42 she can be nepo baby but her performace wasn't Oscar worthy, Angelina Jolie is Nepo baby as well since her dad is an actor but love her and was brilliant in Girl interrupted and then well deserved win.
Wright always acts the same. It’s a distraction that she follows the studios prescription of moving her eyes up to look at the forehead of the other actor and then move them down. I think Teresa Wright’s best performance was in the murder she wrote episode - she shed the studio mannerisms!
Long overdue narrative, being a member of a respected Hollywood family dynasty (remember this was happening when the whole nepo baby discourse on social media had Jamie and all Hollywood nepo babies in a frenzy so I can see her peers defending her status by giving her the Oscar to prove she’s more than a nepo baby), the love for everything everywhere all at once and great campaigning from both Jamie herself and A24
@@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719true for Angela not only was it genre bias but specifically marvel bias so many actors and filmmakers have been out spoken about superhero franchises ruining cinema I mean that was a big reason to why so many actors and filmmakers helped Andrea riserborough’s faux grassroots Oscar campaign, you constantly hear actors like Edward Norton, Kate winslet and charli Theron talking about to Lelise is the type of great film that gets overlooked due to superhero franchises. For Angela to get through all of that shows how much everyone wanted her to get a Oscar but that genre bias really was the unbreakable glass ceiling for her
