Which of these popular Adventure Bikes is hardest to pick up? DROP TEST

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Which of these popular Adventure Bikes is hardest to pick up? DROP TEST
Many people have asked, how hard is a certain bike to pick up if you crash it? To find out, I will be dropping all the bikes I test going forward, and giving them a score from A to F. To start, I drop all 5 bikes in my garage and assign relative scores. No hernia's or broken back's (yet)
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@BigRockMoto 3 года назад

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@IngOehman 3 года назад

Correcting your correction: No, 480 lbs is not 318 kg. It is 218 kg! 😉

@johnpagejr.7628 3 года назад

Yes I saw that also.

@TomReinerDE 2 года назад

…but it FEELS like it after the the fifth pickup… 😂

@YourLocalRaccoon 3 года назад

"I'm going to be doing the method....lift with your legs not your back" Proceeds to lift entirely with his back.

@David_Journey 3 года назад

I would try to support the bike more with my rear besides pulling up, rather push from the entire body. That said I was in a situation with off-camber bike fall, where even the best technique did not work, and had to turn the bike around. Also if the ground is unstable, lifting becomes even harder.

@fumaremigel 3 года назад

@@David_Journey Came here to post that

@r6andrei 3 года назад

I hurt my back just from watching him do it…ouch

@jeffalley4417 3 года назад

EVERY. DAMN. TIME.

@akpilot5510 3 года назад

If you do not have a bad back, owning an adventure bike is how you get one.

@alexmacdonald258 3 года назад

I very much appreciate your work on these bikes! But it also looks like I'll have to really work to get my left knee to bend further than it wants to now, thanks to a knee replacement (I'm 73). And for all you younger folks out there, you don't stop doing things because you get old--you get old because you stop doing stuff!

@oldtimer3824 3 года назад

AMDo you still ride off-road?

@alexmacdonald258 3 года назад

@@oldtimer3824 I've toned it down a lot, but yes; forest roads mostly. I make sure I don't get into situations where I might dump the KLR, and never ride alone, so there's always help.

@jeffalley4417 3 года назад

Best advice you could give anyone

@CPSJSMSUUMUGA 3 года назад

@@alexmacdonald258 I’m 73 and none of my riding friends will go off road. I (foolishly) go alone places where if I had a serious accident they wouldn’t find my body until the snow melted. I’d tell someone where I was going but I don’t know myself.

@alexmacdonald258 3 года назад

@@CPSJSMSUUMUGA I carry a Garmin Inreach Explorer+, so if there's a problem, I can get help, along with LifeFlight insurance for a remote airlift. And as a former Senior Patroller (National Ski Patrol), I still have the advanced first aid training-was an EMT with my Patrol-that if somebody else needs it, I can take care of most everything. Too bad I'm not in the UK, where you're not far from a pub!

@Spideritems 3 года назад

I’ve only had to pick up my T7 once, after a pretty heavy fall, bent bars, obliterated mirror, banged my knee up pretty well. In that Situation adrenaline definitely played a part, I had the bike back up in no time and it almost felt effortless! Maby you could add a pack of dogs chasing you in your test to get that adrenaline pumping! 😛

@BigRockMoto 3 года назад

or a pack of hungry wolves?

@johnasbury9915 3 года назад

Maybe 4-5 hungry zombies… that’d get the adrenaline going….. just an idea.. 🤪

@TomReinerDE 2 года назад

@@BigRockMoto THAT is the spirit!

@Winter-zv1dv Год назад

@Big Rock Moto aka. RU-vid comments 😂

@Buckarooskiczek 3 года назад

Holy cow, man! Watching you lift those first two, I was feeling twinges in my own back! Thanks for sacrificing your body to do this video and share the info. I’ve always known that it’s the top-heavy bikes that are the most challenging but you rock, Big Rock!

@thehunter5245 3 года назад

This is one of the best channels for adventure content. It's great seeing such important topics covered and seeing you experiment with new ideas. There awesome! Keep on the good work👍. I'm really excited for the new charts, what an brilliant idea. Greatings from Switzerland 🇨🇭

@BigRockMoto 3 года назад

Wow, thank you!

@toddwmac 3 года назад

Nice vid thanks for all your quality content. It is a great asset for the community. For those newer to ADV riding a few things to consider when picking up a bike. 1st) if you need to pick up a heavy/loaded....slow down and THINK THROUGH your situation. Rushing to pick up a bike when the adrenalin and potentially embarrassment level is high is a great way to hurt yourself or make the situation worse. 2nd) Just a few degrees of hill lean can dramatically change the difficulty level of picking up a bike. The fact that the bikes in this video were just slightly up hill made a difference in the lift forces required. Don't believe me, try it yourself. 3rd) Sometimes it is really worth the energy investment to get your bike spun around with the tires downhill before you try to pick it up. You may need to dig before drag, but you can do that in pieces before you commit to a lift. Get over the scratches...it is an ADV bike after all. 4th) Secure that front brake and use 1st gear to keep it from rolling. I've watched guys go from bad to worse as a bike rolled away from them after they picked it up. All is good when you are practicing in your yard and fresh. Things change dramatically when you are 6 hours into a rugged ride and the bike is on a side hill. Try a little strip of Velcro secured around your handle bar (I've had the same piece on my 990 for 10 years) 5th) Try lifting straps (made up using your towing/drag strap....you do have a towing/drag strap in your kit right? Search RU-vid for using these (bikes, fridges, etc...all the same physics) 6th) Explore other lifting tools/techniques. There are a # of light weight lifting and self rescue kits (DIY and commercial) out there. 7th) Learn the best technique that works for your bike, ideally when it is loaded. This is when you are most likely to drop the bike now that your CG is different. Unloading might not always be an option. Lastly and for those that really want to improve their big ADV riding skills, get comfortable with the idea of dropping your bike and figure out a way to get 100% confident that you can lift by yourself. If you constantly fear that you are going to drop your bike and get stranded, your riding skills WILL suffer. This is one of the 1st things I go through with my students, even requiring them to drop their bikes on purpose. Dropping a bike is part of adventure riding and the sooner you manage that fear, the better adventures you will have. BTW - for the GS riders out there, here is how BMW does it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YXFXHvYwexA.html (I do the same on my KTM 990)

@BigRockMoto 3 года назад

thanks, this is great!

@ecalzo 2 года назад

Thank you for letting us see all that bikes picked up from the ground.. as for the technique i use a different one.. i use the handlebar as a lever to pick up the bike ..Thank you so much from italy

@T30-z5w 3 года назад

You’re doing it the hard way. That technique doesn’t work well on lose or muddy ground. The bike will just slide away from you. Try turning the handlebars first so that the headlight faces up. Then grab the furthest handle bar grip with both hands and using your legs and lift straight up. You are facing the bike while you do this. Works on just about any bike. This way you’re using as much mechanical advantage as possible by moving your lift point as far as possible from the fulcrum point.

@davidhuot2867 3 года назад

In muddy mud , I put something behing the wheel to stop slipping the wheel and I use the knee method. I did that 3x on a ride with the Tenere700, boy I was exausted, i sold the bike after lol !!

@mcragosta 3 года назад

+1. I don't know why people keep teaching that method. It's only for big cruisers. I've tried it a few times on my adv bikes, and on loose ground, fahgettaboudit!

@soulrebelno1 3 года назад

I totally agree, It's all about physics and the type of bike. Using the 'recommended' back-to-the-seat method is the wrong method to use on a Yamaha Tenere 700. It works on a BMW GS because it lies about 70° from the perpendicular when dropped due to its flat boxer engine, but a Yamaha Tenere 700 lies a lot closer to the ground and has a relatively high centre of gravity. The next time I drop my Yamaha Tenere 700 I'll be using the handle bar method. 👍

@T30-z5w 3 года назад

I learned this the hard way. Picking up dirt bikes or dual sport the technique is not that important. But at 5’8”, 180lbs, picking up my 600 plus pound Yamaha Super Tenere XTZ1200 on mud and lose rocks forced me to pay attention to physics.

@jnp505 2 года назад

He made the comment at the start about doing the method that we're taught in the training course. Real world, yes could be a difficult way to do it but for purpose of comparisons best to do the same method each time.

@larrytucker1945 3 года назад

Great info. Recently dropped a dual sport at a down hill slope. I had dropped this bike many times pushing myself but this was the first time I had ever had difficulty getting it upright. The soles of my boots where smooth worn out motocross boots. I couldn’t get traction. I learned a few things that day. You get taught some lessons on your fitness and endurance level when adventures get really adventurous. It was still a great day on a motorcycle I was just a little more worn out than usual. Great video

@antoinekhoury2126 3 года назад

This video has made up my mind that whichever adventure bike I buy it will have a set of crash bars... Thank You.

@stevesgarage1937 3 года назад

EXCELLENT IDEA! This is a topic that has never been put in a review. A Goldwing is surprising easy to pick up for the same reason as a GS. I am surprised about the T7 but falling over more and weight up high can make a big difference. Keep up the good work!

@Nerb1 3 года назад

I did this last year with a little more accuracy. T7 was not so bad. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ze8rsxrITTA.html

@CPSJSMSUUMUGA 3 года назад

One of my bikes is a KTM 1190 Adventure. If it falls without the panniers on, and a full tank - 6 top-heavy gallons, probably about 550 total - it’s close to impossible to pick-up (alone).

@karlfonner7589 3 года назад

I’m glad I subscribed. Nobody else has touched this subject

@lessutphin4718 3 года назад

What a great idea . Love watching your shows . I am 69 yrs old a nd a month ago my Goldwing turned over past the crash bars in a culvert . I picked it up . It is all about method . I am 5-9 and 175 lbs . be careful using you arms and back . Legs !

@christopherbiomass7155 3 года назад

Kudos to you. I've found found plenty of info on your channel that wasn't available anywhere else, or needed to be compiled from multiple sources. I really like the concept of having a pick-up test and a rating. But but what you have thus far is one dimensional and subjective - as you acknowledged in the first part of the video. I wonder if you have considered doing multiple tests, to attempt more real world cases. - In addition to, or instead of, the concrete test, find an off road place that is sandy and has no sharp rocks. - An additional test where the bike has fallen on the down hill slope. - Rig up some apparatus that can attach at the grip points that you used, to weigh the force needed to pick it up (best done in conjunction with your driveway test). Regardless, thanks for the effort and good info you have provided! We'll always want more.

@markzabo8988 3 года назад

Another great video. I sold my 2020 GSA for this very reason and went with a 890. I am a pretty strong guy, but with my GSA in adventure mode (with full bags and rear duffle) I could not get my GSA up by myself. I also think the GSA is super top heavy and the balance point is way smaller than most bikes (agin very top heavy), once it starts to go over your not stopping it. Combine that with the 4 screws I have in my lower back, I just couldn’t take the GSA anymore. Wish you would of had a 790/890 in this test. BTW some of us don’t want you to hurt yourself ;-)

@peterlosangelos4108 3 года назад

Yes, yes, yes! Thank you for checking this

@spacecoasttactical 3 года назад

Just a suggestion..... Are you planning to do a video on the REALTIES of manufacturer listed seat heights? What I've found is that they can, and often are, misleading in the real world as in the real world it isn't just inseam that counts. Here's two examples (both examples wearing Daytona M-Star GTX boots); I'm 5' 5 1/2" tall, I weigh 161 pounds and have an inseam of 30 inches. On a Triumph Tiger GT Pro with the seat on the highest setting I can get the balls of both feet on the ground and with the seat on the lowest setting I can almost flatfoot the bike. On a Tiger Rally Pro I can get on the balls of both feet on the lowest seat setting and tiptoe on the highest seat setting. On paper it should be tip toes on the highest and (just) on the balls of my feet on the lowest with the GT Pro and on the Rally Pro it should be tip toe on the lowest and not a chance in hell of getting both feet on the ground on the highest. I have have found the same thing with other brands. A couple of factors that manufacturers don't take into account are weight and footwear. My message to short people like me is simple. Don't write off getting the bike you want because you think the seat height in the specs is too tall until you have been to a dealer and sat on it wearing your motorcycle gear, including a helmet and boots.

@hardworkingamerican8847 3 года назад

I am 6' and have a tad bit shorter inseam than you . Dang cigarettes I smoked as a kid stunted my growth .

@standupmoto 3 года назад

Thanks for the report, hope your back is ok after lifting that lot.

@ExpeditionaryRanger 3 года назад

Too bad you didn't try the Tenere again in gear vs neutral... guessing it may have felt pretty close to the AFrica Twin? What are your thoughts? Looks like your body had the compounded twisting motion of trying to resist it from rolling to your left during the lift.

@Nerb1 3 года назад

I tested this using scales some time ago. The T7 was 10kg lighter at the handlebar than the AT. Interestingly, the GS and the T7 were very similar. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ze8rsxrITTA.html

@branislavstanic5195 3 года назад

Great video and really helpful advice. But I must say your pickup technique was hard to watch. Please work on it before doing more tests. Keep up the good work! Really love your channel 👌♥️

@ProfOsvaldoFariadeOliveira 2 года назад

Very intersting comparison. Congratulations!

@rickdelmonte1682 3 года назад

Thanks for doing this. Glad you didn't hurt yourself. I must confess that at 66 years of age I carry a Moto Jack and it has bailed me out at least 3 times. I realize it would be cheaper to abandon my GS on the side of the road than to crush a disc trying to pick it up.

@MrDavidfuchser 3 года назад

I dropped my huffy on the trail once. I would say it was a solid "B" to pick up.

@biscuitsalive 3 года назад

Would like to see a Honda 300rally/CRF in there for comparison.

@videosbruno 3 года назад

Not much difference from the beta 500

@karlfonner7589 3 года назад

@@videosbruno Who makes the Beta 500?

@TheGhostfaceKLR 3 года назад

@@karlfonner7589 who’s buried in Grant’s tomb?

@karlfonner7589 3 года назад

@@TheGhostfaceKLR lol! Which president was it that was stopped by the police for riding his horse too fast down Pennsylvania Avenue?

@SilkRoad2020 3 года назад

I confirm. 5 falls at a standstill with the T7. once a certain inclination is reached, it is impossible to retain . and therefore very complicated to raise. (T7 rally edition)

@curlyeagle 3 года назад

The Yamaha gave you the most strain and saw it via the blood vein popping out on the forehead. Good grading system. I’ve got an 86 goldwing and has to pick up a couple times as the kick stand sank in the soft grass. The technic you used is the best I’ve found

@Speedytrip 3 года назад

Great video as always. Im sure when you watch back you’ll notice you were using your back too much :) But it is hard to use just the legs when the bike is so low and the taller you are the harder it is to keep the back straight. A+ for effort!

@3Darkblade3 2 года назад

So having dropped my KLR yesterday the saddlebag did just fine but there's a tiny clip on the mounting hardware that the bag slides into that broke. Bag popped right off. $30 mistake. Lol

@allanrilling6990 3 года назад

Thanks Ian. Interesting topic, for me at least having experienced a heavy bike the hard way (F800GSA without advantage of boxer) !! I would suggest to use a simple number rating - maybe from 0 to 20. Just more intuitive to follow as letter rating is less so for most. Cheers from Quebec.

@dw5523 3 года назад

Also a good video demonstrating the need to get and stay strong. It makes everything easier and will provide a longer, safer, and and happier riding career.

@BigRockMoto 3 года назад

yep

@amdomag 2 года назад

Comparing the Honda CB500X and the BMW 1250GS, which bike is heaver to hold with your legs on uneven ground if you're 5'5" rider like me? This video is very informative. Please keep on posting videos. Thank you.

@stephaniemusick171 3 года назад

Good job. This is a great way to rate the effort to pick up an adventure bike. This is an important consideration. Thanks for sharing this.

@BigRockMoto 3 года назад

Glad you like it!

@kimomoto 3 года назад

Spot on the T7. I’ve just made a video why I changed my T7 to the 890 adv r and one the big reasons was how difficult it was to pick up from the ground.

@dahveed284 3 года назад

"It's not like you're going to drop your bike in a driveway..." I think everyone has dropped their bikes in garages, driveways, parking lots, and stopped at intersections. I know I have.

@motodiaries8204 3 года назад

Center of gravity plays a huge part 8n picking up a bike. My 800 lb Goldwing is actually pretty easy to lift because of the very low engine placement.

@stevecarmack6267 3 года назад

Thanks for the work! I just as surprised by the T7’s difficulties to pick up compared to the others.

@arnoldbraunschweiger4828 3 года назад

Might have been a bit easier to get back up if he had it in gear......

@whitedrguy6503 3 года назад

What would be more interesting is to find the tip point of each motorcycle, how many degrees from vertical that the weight takes over before you have to drop it. It is part of the reason I prefer my DR 650 over my T7, the DR can lean a lot further before I feel I can’t hold it up, like when you put a foot down when stationary and the ground is uneven, which in reality is when most bikes are dropped. The T7 doesn’t need to lean far before you start feeling the weight so it is more important to watch where you stop or try to put a foot down, any adverse camber really tests out the old leg muscles, even getting the bike off the side stand can be difficult at times. I work on the theory if the bike is easier to hold up you don’t need to pick it up.

@gorongo4202 3 года назад

Great content. Brilliant! There's no spec on a manufacturer's site for ease of picking up. I've been riding for 40+ years and judge all my bikes by ease of pickup using weight as a proxy, but it seems center of mass is way more important. When the bike drops once, it usually happens that it will drop more in the near term for any number of reasons...change of focus, exhaustion, terrain. I'd rather have discomfort (on a long ride) on my 120kg 501 than have to pick up a Tenere 3 times on a tough hill. When I can't pick up my bike any longer is when I'll hang up my helmet.

@The333 3 года назад

This was a GREAT video and confirmed what a lot of use T7 riders suspected: the T7 is kind of a pain in the butt to pick up! Now, PLEASE do a video on the best technique for picking up the T7 - I tried the technique you used in this video, and I just cannot get a good grip on my bike and I end up just picking it up by the bars - which is a like doing a set of dead lifts!

@davidhuot2867 3 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ph9RPumQWFc.html

@IRLtrolls 3 года назад

Wow what a great video Big Rock! You're a real trooper for doing this test. You need an assistant helping you lay the bikes down so you're fresh when picking them up. That's a lot of energy output rolling those bikes around and picking them up. I know many people would kill to help you make these videos. I know I would.

@The_Arby 3 года назад

Lift with your knees, not your back :-)

@jokermtb 3 года назад

His technique was definitely very bent from the waist, (gotta be almost all legs) I was cringing a bit!!!!

@ATTESAfr 3 года назад

FIY the BMW Connected indicate a lean angle of 61 when I drop mine…

@johncollinsworth6754 3 года назад

Mine indicated 80 degrees 🤩

@7x779 3 года назад

If I could offer a constructive suggestion to my last comment, Buy a pair of scales And lay the bikes down own so that the touchdown points are on the scales. Usually the handlebar end and and perhaps a footpeg, crash bar or tail rack. That would give a solid number how much weight is resting on the ground. Then it would also be helpful to actually weigh the bike on the scales, Since it's hard to find defined real world actual weight of these bikes. Lastly if you wanted to be the Pioneer of a truly accurate method, Use 2 hanging scales from your garage ceiling attached to Pulliies, come along's or hoists, Then hook or tie the ropes from the end of the scales to the pick up points on the motorcycle , And lift the bike just enough that it's not touching the ground , And record the weight. I hope you will consider this, Even without detailed and more quantifiable data, You can see from the comments that your video has already changed The minds and choices that some people were about to make. The most surprising thing was the T 700 being 30 pounds lighter than the klr and yet and yet was the worst one to pick up, Even though It was the lightest bike of the whole group except for the Beta O'Rourk.

@BigRockMoto 3 года назад

Which did you think would be hardest to lift? Are you surprised by the rankings? Share your stories below.

@hifzullahozkaya 3 года назад

In my experience with GSA even with panniers indeed it is not too bad. With the right technic you do not feel helpless at all. But I'd like to point the fuel level which really really changes the difficulty. 30 litres of fuel on top makes a huge difference. I wonder if the fuel levels taken account in the experiment ? Thanks a lot, great video. As GSA owner I am scared from T7 :-)

@Surly1966 3 года назад

On my first day, the first time I sat on my KLR650 I dropped it. At that point I hadn’t dropped a bike in years. Full tank of gas and it was taller than I realized. It took me and two neighbours three tries to get it up. So I got a set of crash bars and got on the net to see how 150 lb guys do it( I’m a solid 220) I did exactly what you did. Placed a blanket on the ground ( but I always drop on the right for some reason) and practiced. I eventually settled on the method you use. I have to agree its the safest and least stressful method and it’s not that difficult once you learn to walk it ip with your legs. I also have to agree that picking it up when riding is much easier.(adrenaline definitely helps) thanks for including the rankings it’s very helpful as I’m looking at a couple other bikes- I was going to go for the T700 and not the Beemer 1200 or Africa Twin because I thought they might be too heavy. Oops wrong apparently- that great info! A ranking of suspension and suspension adjustability would be nice too. Maybe from too Soft to too hard and no adjustment to maximum adjustment or something like that. Travel says a lot about a bikes suspension but how soft or hard the rides is something that should be rated. Keep the great videos coming. I look forward to these type of videos from someone I trust.

@peterlosangelos4108 3 года назад

I wonder if the gs would be so much harder to pick up when it was laying down, more worse case, say 10 degree downhill. I dont think its only about that it does not drop down so far, but more that much of its weight is far down. I like your testing very much, because for me it would be a nogo if i would not be able to lift up the bike several times at the end of the day. That was currently holding me off from the big bikes and even considering t7, which is completely wrong as i understand now. I am interested in ktm 890 adv r.

@kloppskalli 3 года назад

have a good look at your back when you lift the KLR.. you're totally bent cause there is no other way to reach the bike with your ass in the way 😉 plus you end up with the bike behind yourself which is crap except you're practicing on a level parking space .. that's 2 reasons why i never do it like that. Face the bike, arms straight, legs bent.. and whoop..

@7x779 3 года назад

I wonder how the Harley Pan America would compare, And the husk 701

@karryhoward3946 3 года назад

Hello great job picking up bikes Ian, I am 5'9" 30" inseam so I drop bikes, at first this was the scariest think about ADV riding but as my skills improved and I got more confident on my Beemer and later Africa Twin not that big of a deal. And later as I figured things out about the sport/hobby I love realized I was much happier on small bikes in the trail so I saved up and purchased multiple bikes.

@ralphwatten2426 2 года назад

With your pumping adrenalin I'd assume that I'd be more prone to herniating myself, tearing up my back or knees, shoulders and the like. I picked up my '99 Valkyrie by myself in the middle of an intersection because I had to. Yup, I hurt myself.

@r12rtpilot 2 года назад

He says: You'll never drop your bike on a level concrete driveway. Me: Hi, I"d like to introduce myself.

@ThrillaPark 3 года назад

Good vid. Friendly suggested to use the mic for all scenes. Sounded not as pro during the white board section. Cheers

@brook_slider 3 года назад

Massive consideration in purchasing a bike if you intend riding off-road alone.

@teamgas 3 года назад

Really enjoyed the video! I suppose the next question that I would like your opinion on is “how likely you are to drop the bike in a particular terrain?”

@doublex632 3 года назад

Another Fun video, thanks. Which bike leaked gas when it was down? just curious

@rmlestes 3 года назад

Thanks

@robertrscott 3 года назад

Great video! Amazing how that GS can be picked up so easily, definitely my choice for a touring bike! Surprised how tuff the Tenere was to get up but hey ...its still a great bike.

@kevingarciamurga6890 3 года назад

Great videos

@dfrigulietti 3 года назад

Useful information Ian, thank you for hefting all of these machines. Anyone considering a new ADV bike and planning to ride it off pavement would do well to practice a few lifts on their lawn before that first drop on the trail. Looking forward to your new website!

@matthewberry577 3 года назад

The 18 point scoring system from A+ to F- is unusual. Will you be publishing the criteria that allows us to assess our own bikes or, for example, differentiate between a C and a C- score?

@thunderfromsea 3 года назад

Very clever content. Not a video I’d have thought of - so it was fun to watch. I have a KLR650, Honda AT1000 and KTM1290. By far, the KTM is the most challenging to right size in my stable (and ironically, the one that spends more time horizontal than the others). The AT almost feels like a feather compared to the Austrian tank.

@GoodkatNW 2 года назад

Can't believe my 2007 r1200gsa weighs the same as a current model KLR....Love your content, also, but your pickup techniques need quite a bit of work ;)

@KingCast65 2 года назад

The DCT bike however will most likely NOT have the parking brake on when you drop it bro because you would be RIDING IT. Just sayin'.

@larrylund1138 3 года назад

Your a brave man

@r6ymy 3 года назад

This is a good idea, but you said you would keep the scoring system nice and simple, A to F, then you start adding plus and minus! 1 to 10 would have been easier if 7 grades wasn't sufficient.

@njayarajasingam 3 года назад

Great stuff

@luck02 3 года назад

I'm not sure why I'm watching this, I have a gs1250, I've picked it up before... I think it's a masochistic thing... Anyways, kudos to you, I hope your back didn't get hurt

@zachd3146 3 года назад

Love the data, excited for the website! No ktm 790/890?

@soulrebelno1 3 года назад

I think the lean angle and the centre of gravity should be taken into account when deciding on which lift method to use. For instance, the BMW GS is closer to the perpendicular at about 70°, compared to the Yamaha Tenere 700 which lies a lot closer to the ground. So due to physics of the situation, turning the front wheel skywards and using the handle bar method would be the best method to lift a Yamaha Tenere 700, not the 'recommended' back-to-the-seat method. So maybe when compiling your matrix these factors should be taken into account, i.e. lean angle, and recommend lift method. Keep up the good work, a great video, and a very useful one. 👍

@SamiNami 3 года назад

Thanks. Fun video that gives some indication. I would still rather pick up the T7 in mud than a 600lb behemoth GS. When the bike falls flat on concrete the GS seems easier to lift for sure. The KLR score should not be the same as the GS imo.

@bradb2514 2 года назад

From memory, could you guess how you would have rated the KTM 790/890? Thanks.

@leonesterhazy8355 3 года назад

lol how much break time you having between the lifts?? I notice you leaving the heaviest bikes for last :)

@bobvincent5921 3 года назад

Thanks. Why have other manufacturers not made a boxer twin??

@ronbatt756 2 года назад

How about keeping a one inch Velcro wrap handy to lock the front wheel using the front break lever? Neither wheel will roll while lifting. 🇨🇦

@vplph 3 года назад

Can't watch your video's any longer... You are crashing too often.

@pauldelis6273 2 года назад

It would be interesting if you could set up a small table 300mm high with weight scales and rest the bars of each bike on them to compare the weight of laying over

@tomoconnor8431 3 года назад

Love your channel

@jacksonallan954 3 года назад

Just a thought: For these lab tests, you might want to tip the bike over with the side stand facing up. Then you can't accidentally drop it on the other side when you lift it.

@leviathan3434 3 года назад

Back in 2020 September I owned an Africa twin 1100 L4 DCT. During a trail ride I fell down, nothing serious, I was almost at a complete stop. This was the first time I dropped that bike which I realized that she was like a dead corpse on the ground. I am 188cm, 100kg and consider myself a strong guy. However while trying to lift her up I tore my right knee meniscus, had to go through two surgeries and still I am not able to run. I may have a third surgery. I sold the Africa and bought 1250 GSA. Also dropped her twice but it was super easy for me to lift her up even with a bad knee. Boxer engine being closer to the ground has a better leverage in every aspect I believe.

@jjjjjjjjrifufjssjosskenf 3 года назад

I agree with the Tenere. It is stupid heavy. The main reason I sold mine for an 890R

@edgarcardona4172 3 года назад

Pretty cool demo…wish you would have done that under actual field conditions, i.e., a trail

@DGBYRNE 3 года назад

Ian, A very useful and practical metric as the bikes weight can be misleading in everyday use. For example, it's easy to see the GSA as huge behemoth because of the physical width and height, as opposed to the 'slim-line' Adventure bikes. But as we know with the GSA most of the upper weight, bar the weight of a full fuel tank, is plastic! But lets face it, in reality for us mere mortals any bike over 200kg can never saved once its going over! My reflection on the test is that lifting the bikes back to back, you understandably tire, so you'd inevitably struggle with the heavier bikes and that may lead to a more subjective review. To provide a more objective review maybe, as you found in practice, it might be helpful to use the '+' or '-' to differentiate the ability to lift - how low you'll need to crouch, grab rails etc. In my view these attributes provides for the better lift technique of an 'explosive' effort through the quads rather than your lower back! This might be demonstrated through a repeat lift test, say x3 lifts for each bike. Maybe Ryan (FortNine), if he sees this vlog can add his take with some science and calculate the actual lift effort. Now that would be objective! Congrats on the 50k subscribers - keep up the excellent content.

@donalddevison7884 2 года назад

That was very helpful thank you

@BigRockMoto 2 года назад

my pleasure

@MeerkatADV 3 года назад

Please get some training on this kind of stuff before you seriously injure yourself. Your deadlift technique is all wrong and probably going to do serious damage to the disks in your back. Your back should be straight, you should be looking forward or up, and your arms should be close to locked out until the bike is basically up. You're muscling this and really risking permanent injury. Also you can't just pick up one after the other and expect the effort to not be more as you work your way through, listen to how hard you're breathing even by bike three and that tells everyone all they need to know.

@MeerkatADV 3 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9nzpb9Z-mRU.html she's 5'1" and can pick up her 1250GS all day with perfect form, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to also.

@paulherron4289 3 года назад

So I commented prior to watching I was sure the AT would be the hardest. Before I got the DRZ I looked to the T7 And both the new 300s Honda and Kawasaki for a light Adventure bike all unavailable in SoCal. I really like the DRZ but this drop test confirms one thing ............I’m a wimp!!! Thanks for your hard work heading over to patreon now.

@BigRockMoto 3 года назад

thanks!

@thetubelesschannel 2 года назад

Great video, not surprised by your results. I just sold my T7 Rally Edition as I realized I was not able to lift it. Maybe I could do it with a lot adrenaline pumping but with the risk of doing something bad to my back. I have lifted a lot bikes. The R1200GS (I owned one) was quite easy. But too heavy to get out of mud if alone. Light is always better when doing off road or adventures into the wilderness. Cheers !

@7x779 3 года назад

Thank you for another helpful video. As thorough and well-thought-out thought out as your videos usually are, I think you should include more objective and quantifiable data,, Since we have no way to compare your strength to the thousands of viewers watching, as well as how strong you felt on that particular day, and how much much fatigue and strength you lost from picking up each bike. I would imagine you weren't as strong on the last bike as you were on the 1st.

@BigRockMoto 3 года назад

Thanks for the tip!

@dptubexx 3 года назад

Very helpful. Please don’t hurt yourself; take more time between lifts; using your knees more, too!

@David_Journey 3 года назад

Knees, glutes.... lounges help to make the knee stronger, because you recruit more of the glute muscles... ask your physical therapist... they know better than me :-D

@perrymason8471 3 года назад

Imagine picking up a super tenere 1200 or v strom 1000.

@shushumna6 3 года назад

Good info as usual. But how about including the V Strom 650 in your tests. I ride. 2013. Thx.

@armandomorales5857 3 года назад

the vstrom can be complicated, I had one and had to pick it up multiple times

@peterwray4847 3 года назад

You all have missed the easiest way to pick up a Gsa. Sit with knees next to the saddle. Put your arm as low as you can on the frames and just shuffle forward till your chest meets the saddle. No lifting eye popping movements. Just your thighs "walking" forward.

@alisonwilson-james8239 3 года назад

I have an Eastbound lifting tool kit just in case

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Your american a to f is weird, numbers are logical grade

@thehoneybadger8089 3 года назад

Don't you mean the KLR is 218 kg?

@dualsportadventure 3 года назад

Great idea for a video! Glad your back is in one piece. As a 150lbs intermediate rider I went from a Gen 1 Klr650 to a 2021 crf300l, so that I can pick it up with confidence when trail riding. I would love a T7, but if I were to drop it, I would be screwed.

@someguy5035 3 года назад

I had a 2017 KLR and had to pick it up a couple of times. Wasn't fun. Sold the KLR; bought a 2020 Africa Twin. Had to pick it up a couple of times. Less fun. Sold the AT; bought a CRF300L Rally. Haven't had to pick it up yet, but I know it will be relatively easy.

@philgoogle1535 2 года назад

Another very informative video Ian. It would be good to see how the KTM 890 R would rate in your test.

@BoxOfGod 3 года назад

Dropping a bike in middle of intersection or in front of a caffee it doesn't matter what you pick up it's just embarrasing power.

@daveh8263 3 года назад

One of the only comments I will make is I would suggest handicapping a bit. There is no way you are as strong on the last one when you are already tired than you were on the first so the Honda and BMW may have been scored slightly too harshly

@BigRockMoto 3 года назад

good point

@manuelbritorides 3 года назад

Once again, excellent job👏🙏!!

@unclebadger597 3 года назад

Nice work Ian. Don't know why I waited so long to subscribe. I can't wait for that comparison matrix 👍. Glad to see my KLR did better than I thought it would. I haven't dropped mine yet 🤞

@hillkillr 2 года назад

lol, I just realized the GS1200+'s have dad bods.

@sailfishoneday2145 3 года назад

So that 8 gallon tank on the gs was filled to the top ? Haha . I would love to see what all the bikes really weight with full tanks of gas . Any chance u have motorcycle scales for two tires and kick stand at the same time ?...I hate the " my bike weighs around " stuff . Tell us what they really weigh with full tanks of gas and there own luggage on [ empty but on the bike ] . Thanks for cool vids sir .

@JoeS97756 3 года назад

The mfg. weights are quoted as wet, which means fuel and oil and coolant is included.

@sailfishoneday2145 3 года назад

@@JoeS97756 mfg weights are always off , recent vid from 650ib from a week ago he was putting some bikes on a scale , randomly they put the new bmw r18 transcontinental on scale came in at 967lb and I'm sure it wasn't full of fuel since the bike sitting in showroom waiting to be sold , bmw website says 942lb wet . Like I said I would love to see all these adv bikes on a scale full of fuel to see if they over or under mfg weight specs

@JoeS97756 3 года назад

@@sailfishoneday2145 I'd be curious to see that too, but I bet it comes down to options on the bike vs. standard equipment. EU especially has very defined rules for weight and requires 90% of the fuel tank to be filled for weight measurements.