Which Paper Mario Should Nintendo Remake NEXT? Super Paper Mario or Paper Mario 64?

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Is it too early to speculate on which Paper Mario game is going to get remade next? Oh well, I'm gonna do it anyway.
While it seems that the N64 Paper Mario should get a remake next since it's even older than The Thousand Year door there is also a possibility that Nintendo will instead remake Super Paper Mario.
Which game is better suited to be remade next?
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@ShadubaDraw 2 месяца назад

Remaking Super Paper Mario would be pretty easy considering how good it already looks, I’d be SO curious how Nintendo would handle the art style

@WERV2003 2 месяца назад

That increases the reason why 64 needs a remake more than super, the original has aged a lot.

@ryanpalasek2543 Месяц назад

It was great playing as other characters.

@Purpylon 2 месяца назад

PM64 has been available on every single console since its release except GameCube. The latest console that can play it is Switch. Meanwhile, Super is only on Wii and Wii U, the latter being the latest console its available on. So for availability, Super would be the best choice, especially since it would need to change Wii controls to normal controls. That being said, PM64 has the most to gain from a remake and is the gameplay we fell in love with in the first place.

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

no it doesn't......

@quas3728 Месяц назад

tbh I prefer Super Paper Mario's gaming system. It's action but It's easy af. I didn't know how to complete TTYD back in the day. but I completed SPM. I like TTYD and 64's gaming system too. but personally, SPM's 2D 3D gaming system is my favorite. but It was always fun to read goombella's dialogue.

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

@@quas3728 There's nothing particular wrong with Super Paper Mario's gameplay in and of itself, but it's kind of bare bones. Everyone's experience is more or less the same. In TTYD and 64 you have the option to upgrade different stats (HP, FP, BP), and in SMRPG you have something similar, plus two characters you can swap out, plus all the different strategies and equippables. In Super Paper Mario there aren't any badges, isn't anything you can equip (not counting Floro Sprout, which might look neat but doesn't actually change anything), and all your level ups do the same thing. The only two legitimate gameplay styles are Mario + whatever Pixl you wanna use, and Bowser + Carrie. Don't get me wrong, I love the Bowser and Carrie combo, they're practically made for each other, but when that's your only other viable alternative strategy for playing the game, I don't think it creates a very thought-provoking experience. Also there's the bosses. A lot of the bosses just kind of suck. Fracktail and Wracktail are genuinely good, and King Croacus, Count Bleck, and the last Mimi fight are decent, but that's kind of it. O'Chunks is pretty bad, and Bonechill and Super Dimentio are absolutely atrocious, especially considering the great buildup to both of their fights. I just think they should have included more RPG elements in the gameplay. Doesn't have to be turn based, but there should've been more strategy.

@JC-hi8fk 2 месяца назад

Original game please.

@supleh5937 2 месяца назад

They aint gonna do that, we have n64 online. Swallow your pride bruv

@WERV2003 2 месяца назад

We still don't know if Switch 2 will have the entire Switch Online catalog day one or we will have to start from scratch again (Like the virtual console from Wii to Wii U).

@brianwhite9339 Месяц назад

I concour We just got a remake of the Squel What's the first game? CHOPPED MUSHROOMS?!?!?!

@brianwhite9339 Месяц назад

@@supleh5937Super paper mario is just a cheep classic platformer!!

@supleh5937 Месяц назад

@@brianwhite9339 nuh uh

@Kamiinya 2 месяца назад

Why not both? I’m a diehard Super Paper Mario fan and would LOVE to see it remade or even just ported, but Paper Mario 64 bursts with charm and seeing that updated would be lovely.

@arios6443 2 месяца назад

Would a remake of OG Paper Mario be nice? Yes, but it doesn't *need* it in the way that Super Paper Mario does. Freeing it from the confines of the wiimote alone would make a huge difference.

@Salvo-on9hh 2 месяца назад

Paper Mario 64 because if we buy it (we would), it would show Nintendo that RPG in Paper Mario sells well

@quas3728 Месяц назад

I prefer SPM's fighting system. I like TTYD and 64's combat x RPG system too. but 2D 3D system was so fun to me. also It was easy too.

@FluffyDigby 2 месяца назад

I would rather Super Paper Mario be ported or remastered and 64 be remade. Saying this as a big fan of Super Paper Mario for my favorite Paper Mario and game of all time. It doesn't need the remake treatment imo. BUT if it's the only option then I'd say it should be remade before 64 so they can wait a little longer before remaking 64. I do not want them to change Super drastically though if it can only get the remake treatment. I consider Super Paper Mario a form of the older tradition even if it wasn't gameplay wise. And while the gameplay isn't the same as TTYD and 64, I don't think it was nearly as bad as people make it out to be. Super has a lot of memorable characters, unique locations and a great story. I would hate to see Super made into a TTYD like game with a combat system as when you take away the 2D Platforming gameplay.... it really isn't... Super.

@kumaranrvn5716 2 месяца назад

Agree. Super Paper Mario is great as is, and a remaster could make the game more balanced/polished. It might also reduce the cost and time it takes to get a new game. I would much rather like a new game in the style of Super Paper Mario since no other game is like it. Honestly, Thousand Year Door didn’t need a remake either. A remaster could have done everything the remake did and taken less time. The original Paper Mario is the only game that needed a remake, though I want a new game before they do that.

@macedawgy День назад

A Super Paper Mario remaster and a 64 remake would be perfect. Give both the TTYD treatment and we are in business.

@TheDHono 2 месяца назад

I really hope they remake Super Paper Mario since it’s my favorite game because it got me into voice acting

@victorford5047 2 месяца назад

Super Paper Mario please

@galaxygerm1037 2 месяца назад

I made a google document about everything they could do in an SPM remake. Theres a bit of dialogue that needs fixing (tippi recognizing dimentio is a localization mistake, a dialogue bubble makes peach look like shes saying bleck’s lines). The camera isnt movable in 3d. The backtracking is. On par with ttyd but regulated to level rather then chapter. I think the paper mario characters from ttyd and pm64 could use the graphical style of ttyd (switch) while the new cast and levels have the more computery aesthetic, to really sell that mario isnt in his world anymore, etc…theres too many things i want from a remake of spm. But mostly…**i just wanna see concept art of Mr L and super dimentio**

@JamesTheCelestial 2 месяца назад

We can already play Paper Mario 64 on switch, and while i love SPM, I don't think it's the right time, considering how we *just* went back to the classic JRPG style. I would honestly rather have a new game in the 64 and TTYD style than another remake.

@Brenden594 2 месяца назад

Id want them to remake super paper mario cause I never played it and since I got a taste of the thousand year door on switch the 2d bowser segments were insanly fun to me so it makes me want to play super paper mario since it holds a similar concept!

@christophernorris1491 2 месяца назад

If Super Paper Mario did get a remake, it may release in either Fall of 2026 or Spring of 2027

@MrHomelessHobos 2 месяца назад

I’d rather not have a remake of PM64 they’re gonna completely change the art style and make it more in line with TTYD and Origami King. PM64 has a story book chibi style, not a paper craft or comic style.

@VampLovr54 2 месяца назад

I'd be down for a pm64 remake solely if they gave it a post-game and ttyd remake progress tracking..... They could pull a skyward sword HD with SPM but it just wouldn't be worth a Nintendo $60 price tag unless it was a huge overhaul. (And I'm saying this as one of the freaks who actually likes its gameplay!! I loved super)

@WERV2003 2 месяца назад

You KNOW they can charge $60 for a lazy port of SPM HD lol

@VampLovr54 2 месяца назад

@@WERV2003 They 101% could.

@koiyune Месяц назад

as much as i love 64, and how most people prefer 64 over super, i honestly hope it's super that gets a remake. that game really needs some fixes, and improvements so that this game can finally shine like its older cousins, but i can see 64 getting remaked - but still, i really don't want 64 that much because they'll do the same "papery remodel" like TTYD. Still, super would suffer even more with the "papery changes!" since the game has more of a "digital-computer" style to it, please keep it that way nintendo.

@JoseAndradeTAMU 2 месяца назад

I feel like remaking PM64 using the same engine as TTYD is probably the easiest route Nintendo can take, which I’m all for. Hopefully someday we’ll get all 3 of the OG Paper Marios remade in HD. Hell, maybe they can somehow add turn based combat to SPM (I know it’s wishful thinking lol)

@Jelly_shy_guy_man 2 месяца назад

The thumbnail is different, so I thought it was a random video

@macedawgy День назад

Both could really use it. In terms of what gets it first, I feel like the OG Paper Mario would get the most hype. I would love SPM first though.

@mariocooper1996 2 месяца назад

They DEFINITELY should do Paper Mario 64! Seeing the original game having new graphics similar to the TTYD remaster would be awesome. They could carry over some of the elements & such in the game to PM64 especially how TTYD has the classic file music & both nice idle animations for both Parakarry & Bow. While the original can be played on Switch (if bought the Online Expansion Pass), it would be great to see it look modern-ish like TTYD here. Plus having 2 of the best Paper Mario’s remastered on Switch would be awesome for both fans & would be great for Nintendo.

@douglasbrzeski668 2 месяца назад

Super has the best music in the series. Fully instrumental remixes of the songs would be amazing. Blecks Castle with a real Organ amd violins. Sign me up.

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

what part of castle bleck uses an intrument that sounds like an organ? you can't just slap real life instruments on everything to make it 'better'.

@jaretco6423 2 месяца назад

I would like both. But for Paper Mario 64, I would keep it the same as it originally was, while also added features and update hardware for an much more smoother ride. As for Super, keep the story, characters & music the same, but rehaul the gameplay tremendously and the designs of an chapter & levels because most were severely obnoxious & tedious.

@BananaR777 2 месяца назад

neither a new game that expands on the pmttyd battle system

@U4MHH 2 месяца назад

did you watch the video with the volume muted?

@AKablalik 2 месяца назад

Fun fact: I believe Super Paper Mario was originally going to be a spinoff game in the series, expanding upon the Bowser levels featured in TTYD but by the time they were halfway through development, the Wii was going to hit store shelves and they wouldn’t have the time or resources to start focussing on the next big turn based Paper Mario game, so they instead shifted towards making their platformer spinoff game into the next big game in the series. This is why the game was supposed to initially release on the GameCube only, but then shifted towards dual release, and then eventually a Wii exclusive.

@johnnytaylor4676 Месяц назад

Super paper Mario I need my pixies

@Mario_but_Paper Месяц назад

Super Paper Mario is my favorite game of all time, and I would love to see it get a remake.

@ultragogeta1421 Месяц назад

Id say Paper Mario, but i have a theory about Paper Mario 3 remake. Since TTYD ( 2004 kremake was 20 years later after the original, Paper Mario 3 will be remade around 2027, since the original was in 2007.

@tetermc 2 месяца назад

Honestly, I'd much prefer if they didn't remake any more games and instead just gave us a new one in the classic style. I don't necessarily need turn based battles though. I always thought paper mario would be a lot of fun as more of an action rpg where you select your moves on the fly. Basically like Super but fleshed out a lot more.

@chloeryanvtuber 2 месяца назад

The real time combat sections in Origami King would work well for an action RPG, and it's what that game kept making me want

@jaretco6423 2 месяца назад

I disagree. Turned-based is more suited for Paper Mario in general. Not disliking the way Super changes it. But it's overly simplistic & unpolished.

@victorford5047 2 месяца назад

@@jaretco6423 That's the point of a remake. Polishing it.

@jaretco6423 2 месяца назад

@victorford5047 Yeah. I guess what I meant to say is that if I wanted an Action RPG in a Mario game, I rather be it's own series than in Paper Mario cause doing it in Paper Mario would be way too predictable for the series to handled. I guess make it like the Metroidvania style Castlevania games does; with or without out the Metroidvania genre I supposed.

@jaretco6423 2 месяца назад

@victorford5047 Or better yet. Make an new spinoff Mario game that plays like Kingdom Hearts; only with more button combo moves and tight platforming.

@EzekielBread-fv1xc 2 месяца назад

i don't think they will do the original mainly because it's already on the N64 classics, although super paper mario might me an interestig one if they did, but the real question is what will be the future for paper mario?

@brionis2686 2 месяца назад

Super mario rpg is also on nso and they remade it anyway

@noemisango8478 2 месяца назад

Exactly, and they could just do a DLC for TTYD, because most of the gameplay elements are based of the OG, Super needs it more because it's different than the other game that could benefit for improvement, like they could have an option where you can fight in a real RPG system instead of hitting them a couple of times to make them vanish.

@noemisango8478 2 месяца назад

@@brionis2686Wdym Super Mario RPG is on nso? it's not even there yet.

@brionis2686 2 месяца назад

@@noemisango8478 Oh. I thought it was

@brionis2686 2 месяца назад

Regardless why would nintendo pass up on the opportunity to show love to the original paper mario

@MechaHeartMatt 2 месяца назад

Best case scenario, og Paper Mario is added as $30 dlc to ttyd using same engine.... Buuut I'm just dreaming here

@JoseAndradeTAMU 2 месяца назад

Not really, I think it’s fairly possible. They can easily use a lot of the current TTYD assets for a 64 remake. I think that’s the easiest next step for Nintendo.

@quangamershyguyyz7166 2 месяца назад

@@JoseAndradeTAMUAsking Nintendo to do that is the most outlandish and unlikely thing they could realistically do. Not to mention Nintendo almost never does the easy, straightforward thing.

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

@@JoseAndradeTAMU that would defecate on the game's artstyle lol

@JoseAndradeTAMU Месяц назад

@@carnage0685How?? The TTYD remake looks very different from the original GC version, just with the same art-style as current PM games like Origami King. Doing the same thing to PM64 while keeping the story/gameplay the same should not be an issue.

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

@@JoseAndradeTAMU Um? The characters look a lot more similar to TTYD's artstyle than Origami King's. And besides, 64's artstyle is noticeably different from TTYD and its remake. Using the TTYD remake's artstyle would completely destroy part of the original game's identity.

@chloeryanvtuber 2 месяца назад

Super needs a remaster, but not a remake. The original paper Mario would benefit a lot more from a remake

@WERV2003 2 месяца назад

Facts, Super only needs a port.

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

@@WERV2003 ?????? are you dumb? how the hell does it not need a remake? do you not even know what a remake is?

@JerginBootwyler 23 дня назад

I definitely firmly believe super paper mario deserves a remake more. Dont get me wrong, i want a paper mario 64 remake as well, but that game has been on every virtual console since virtual console started, its playable right now on switch. Meanwhile, super is on the wii and hard to get, just like ttyd before its remake alot of people cant experience super right now, unlike the first game.

@gamerdom4481 2 месяца назад

How about both?

@Applemangh 2 месяца назад

I just want them to both be ported and downloadable on the switch, for a reasonable price (and not tied to a subscription service). But barring that, remake PM64 and port SPM.

@smtonyanthony4227 2 месяца назад

A Super Paper Mario remake with a way more fleshed out game play would be huge. Or making it turned based with new mechanics would be basically be almost a different game- would also be crazy, level design change included. 2 good scenarios.

@aidans1188 2 месяца назад

Oh god that would be so good! If they do remake super paper Mario I hope it’s like what you described.

@DeltaBlazin 2 месяца назад

As long as they don't change the story they can do either one.

@quangamershyguyyz7166 2 месяца назад

Remaking Super Paper Mario and stripping away everything that made it’s gameplay unique by making it just an ordinary turn based battle RPG is such a bad idea.

@ViewerOnline101 2 месяца назад

Both, but if I had to pick one, then the first.

@gferrol118 Месяц назад

I feel like Paper Mario 64 is a better option for a remake. Super Paper Mario would probably be fine with just a port

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

why

@twilightalchemist1642 2 месяца назад

I think they should do both , i don't think it be right, if nintendo just stop at TTYD one , also i never played either one so im curious about trying all 3 someday myself

@quangamershyguyyz7166 2 месяца назад

Nintendo is most likely going to stop at TTYD anyway, and you can play 64 on Nintendo switch online already

@IGNFatal 2 месяца назад

I think that they should remake super paper mario but in 1 year

@DarkFoxKit 2 месяца назад

I mean I think both would be cool, though the original Paper Mario is already on the Switch online, so it seems very unlikely that'll get a remake any time soon. As for Super Paper Mario, that's even harder to say. While people have appreciate it over time, I don't think a lot of people really talks about Super as much as the original or new Paper Mario games. It's like the forgotten child. But here's hoping Nintendo will surprise us like they did with TTYD's remake.

@WERV2003 2 месяца назад

We still don't know if Switch 2 will have the entire Switch Online catalog or we will have to start from scratch again (Like the virtual console from Wii to Wii U)

@supertombrother1988 2 месяца назад

Both eventually, but the N64 game needs it more and should therefore be first.

@imjustcody 2 месяца назад

You know, tbh I don't think they're remaking another paper mario game. I don't think they really need to tbh.

@xanander4693 Месяц назад

They probably won’t remake another game for a while. I’d like a brand new game

@Defender1876 2 месяца назад

you must like the mana series

@juanj3351 2 месяца назад

Remake Sticker Star

@xanander4693 Месяц назад

Im a sticker star fan but no.

@TheUltimateRare 2 месяца назад

we should wait for the new console before we want any remakes. Switch 2 whatever it'll be called is bound to be able to handle things better, and it could be the difference between 30 FPS and 60 FPS. 60 FPS is always better even if it's not required.

@brysonadams8065 2 месяца назад

The only game that needs a remake is the original paper Mario game

@WERV2003 2 месяца назад

YES, Super only needs a port like Skyward Sword HD.

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

@@WERV2003 why would you not improve on something that's heavily flawed?? are you stupid?

@Somethings-are-best-forgotten 2 месяца назад

How about this gameplay from Super Paper Mario should be a separate series it should stick to the the label of Super Paper Mario that way everyone knows it's a 2d platformer rpg and that way its name brings to mind that Super Mario Bros is a 2d platformer Mario game and then the non Super Paper Mario can be an rpg then if for some reason Nintendo doesn't want to do another Paper mario rpg game and still wants to call it paper mario then they should then give it a separate naming scheme to differentiate ot from the rpg games then that way there's no reason to expect an rpg or just rebrand the rpg Paper Mario games to Paper Mario rpg its just a thought I had after watching the video which made sense to me for Nintendo to separate the gameplay styles of the different Paper Mario games that way it's obvious what kind of Paper Mario game it is from the name alone and doesn't leave to confusion or have some feeling like they were lied to kinda like how the other Mario games have different names to the kind of game they are for example Mario Kart is obviously a racing game cant confuse that with a platforming Mario game.

@PianistTanooki 2 месяца назад

The original is already on NSO. I also feel like Thousand-Year Door makes the original game kind of redundant, given that the original's gameplay was more or less a prototype to Thousand-Year Door. Thousand-Year Door refined many aspects of the original's game design. Super Paper Mario, on the other hand, is a completely different type of game, and I feel like it could definitely use an overhaul… specifically with the clumsiness in having to flip through menus constantly just to switch Pixls/characters… not to mention trimming bits such as the infamous hamster wheel in Chapter 2. It was a fun game back in 2007, but man… Super is REALLY rough in certain spots.

@Matty_Ice3955 2 месяца назад

TTYD sequel on the Switch 2

@joshuat6933 2 месяца назад

Give them a chance

@prettyoriginalnameprettyor7506 Месяц назад

Remake this remake that. How about a new game?

@iLoveBread260 Месяц назад

Super Paper Mario hopefully!

@volvoman5262 Месяц назад

Super Paper Mario would be kinda silly I won't lie, since the geometry art style is confusing

@The_Unknown_Baron 2 месяца назад

I want future paper mario to go back to the 64 and ttyd roots

@xanander4693 Месяц назад

Id be fine with that if they incorporated the level design and world exploration from Origami King. The backtracking and linear levels in TTYD made it very boring

@DeltaBlazin 2 месяца назад

Super Paper Mario should absolutely come first, that game's story is phenomenal and I know they could make the gameplay even better, it's very underrated and SERIOUSLY needs to get into the spotlight.

@quangamershyguyyz7166 2 месяца назад

Super Paper Mario is extremely overrated and the gameplay isn’t even good. I’m fine if it never gets the spotlight, cause it’s not necessary.

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

@@quangamershyguyyz7166 but that's exactly why it needs the remake? lol

@danielmoncrief4997 2 месяца назад

Super Paper Mario does have a lot of flaws, but Paper Mario 64 really needs a remake more. The graphics are outdated and it could really use the origami king treatment like the TTYD. I can't even play mine anymore. All the saved data keeps getting deleted. Plus 64 is a real rpg compared to Super.

@acebr3ak 2 месяца назад

Def the original game

@user-yy5zc6ts3l 2 месяца назад

I feel if they remake SPM it's gonna flop hard

@ahmedghazal1527 Месяц назад

No it wouldn't

@arloklenczon6811 2 месяца назад

Give me Super.

@hoshio9428 2 месяца назад

This is not even a competition - the original deserves a fresh modern remake. It's the one that started it all, has the best story, and the overall world immersion is far better than super.

@kaiden2003 2 месяца назад

Super Paper Mario 100%.

@chrisgranger5477 2 месяца назад

Original game next along with Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time. I’ll be happy with a Super Paper Mario remake as long as they change a few minor nitpicks that I have with the original Wii version

@Charnutboy 2 месяца назад

Neither, new game in old style

@OrbitalFrog_ Месяц назад

I’m gonna be honest, don’t mob me guys. But origami king and the 2 of paper Mario’s are better than super. I like everything except for the gameplay, and that’s a big issue

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

that's exactly why it needs a remake. they can fix the horrific gameplay issue. idk why that's too hard for most people here to understand

@OrbitalFrog_ Месяц назад

@@carnage0685 but I’d rather have a 64 remake, in all honesty, because there are some odd choices about that game too. In addition to it being an N64 game, compared to super looking good… It all depends on who you ask, you obviously prefer super, and I prefer 64.

@Vulpas 2 месяца назад

And which character will be retconned transgender next? It's like a zombie apocalypse except the infection is worse.

@Shiver-is-best-waifu 2 месяца назад

None, because Super didn't have any trans characters.

@Vulpas 2 месяца назад

@@Shiver-is-best-waifu Neither did TTYD.

@Shiver-is-best-waifu 2 месяца назад

@@Vulpas Vivian is literally trans in the remake.

@Vulpas 2 месяца назад

@@Shiver-is-best-waifu Yeah, that's an inaccurate localization change made by Nintendo's DEI hires, it isn't the case in the original Japanese where Vivian is otokonoko (equivalent to femboy for us).

@Shiver-is-best-waifu 2 месяца назад

@@Vulpas Oh, never knew that. I just thought of it because they used Japan's version of the game.

@reibyc77 2 месяца назад

They should remake sticker star 🗿

@JoseAndradeTAMU 2 месяца назад

😂😂😂

@wolfultimate1893 2 месяца назад

Sticker Star!!! Not

@giovaniaalvesdesouza1254 2 месяца назад

Paper mario 64 whos with me

@ryanpalasek2543 Месяц назад

I agree with you.

@GabrylMD 2 месяца назад

Super Paper Mario would be redundant. Though would benefit the most from the generic paper style, since SPM has such a flat and unappealing artsyle. Paper Mario is an older game, but would definitely lose a bit of its own style. So I’m hesitant to really say if it would be a good idea to remake something to be visually worse.

@U4MHH 2 месяца назад

Visually worse? No. It's an N64 game.

@carnage0685 Месяц назад

@@U4MHH what does that even mean? are you some kind of double standard elitist? because everything on the switch looks like garbage too.

@notsodogninja35 2 месяца назад

Color Splash

@Xpnvh 2 месяца назад

Paper mario 64 obviously, i aint even gon buy ttyd cuz tbh its trash but if they remake paper mario 64 then i will definitely need to get that bruh

@santiagoriosamor8080 2 месяца назад

Nah, just remake sticker star

@Shiver-is-best-waifu 2 месяца назад

Remaking Super Paper Mario would be a dream come true. I don't care for N64 and also because it's literally on the switch already. Granted, by the Switch online membership but still. I think that SPM could work with the console.