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Which printer should you buy? The Canon Pro-300 or the Epson P700 - Paper for Fine Art & Photography

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In this weeks video Tim has tackled a subject that he has be meaning talk about for a while. Which printer should you buy, the Canon Pro-300 or the Epson P700?
This review of both printers will cover pros and cons for both printers mechanically as well as look at test prints.
It's a fairly long video and is a really world option and test, on measuring of colours and compare LAB numbers etc.
Both printers are avalible to buy from Fotospeed.com
Canon Pro-300: fotospeed.com/...
Epson SC-P700: fotospeed.com/...
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@anthonygardham4573 Месяц назад

Tim I am devastated to learn that when the Canon Pro 300 ink waste pads fill up, it’s as cheap to buy a new printer, rather than being able to change the pads. It’s not lost on me that Canon make no mention of this fact in any of the promotional material.

@johnrambo4934 Месяц назад

Wow....

@churchill378 Месяц назад

I’ve owned the Epson P900 since start of this year and couldn’t be happier with my choice. Absolutely stunning prints and I’ve had zero issues with the printer. Plus the ink seems to last forever im on the original inks since February and I’ve done a lot of printing and test prints.

@JohnDoe1999-lg7mh Месяц назад

I have owned the Epson 3880 and then then the 800.I did lots of research on both the Canon and Epson. There was one blaring thing that stood out that made me go with Epson. Never regretted going with the Epson. My only disappointment with the latest P900 was the size of the ink cartridges had become smaller. I could print so many images with a set. Of all the times that the print stopped because one of the inks ran out and had to replace it, never could spot the area where it happened. I got out of photography back in 2017 and sold off everything. Looking forward to get the P900 later this year. I really miss making prints. Was happy that Epson finally made the change so that you no longer needed to swap MK and PK inks when going from fine art papers to the other type of paper. I also use to have quite a variety of papers. This time will limit to two papers, Epson Hot Press Bright and Baryta II. I also had a target test print for each paper and adjusted black and white points of the image to match what the paper could do.

@mahdiali6732 Месяц назад

I’d love to see a comparison video between the Epson P900 and the Canon Pro 1000

@womz8203 27 дней назад

Me too

@jaycee6996 Месяц назад

My Canon Pro 300 eats ink every time you turn it on. This actually is significant and I believe the Epson does not have as bad a start up cost. I have started to batch up my printing to minimise the number of times I have to turn it on. This is a big pain. I would probably have chosen the Epson if I had known how much ink the Canon would consume just initialising after you turn it on.

@andyhoyle13 Месяц назад

The recommendation is to leave the printer on at all times. The additional cost of electricity is very minimal in standby compared with ink used on startup or cleaning cycles.

@CarlosFaria-wy8rq Месяц назад

Should be in standby all the time.

@leslielim890 Месяц назад

Even on full-time standby, if you don't print for 4 days, the Canon 300 will do an "ink agitation" before starting a print job. And that chews up a lot of ink! I have taken to printing a thumbnail pic every 2-3 days to avoid the ink agitation. Not a printer for a hobbyist who prints once a week. Must admit the prints are really good though. Wouldn't by the printer again.

@Totidev Месяц назад

When I was researching these two printers, I came across an interesting detail - which may explain the sharpness issue. When you have a photo to print you should ensure it is set to 360 (or 720, 1440, 2880, 5760) DPI for Epson and 300 for Canon (or 600, 1200, 2400, 4800) - as these are the optimal sizes for the print head. If you don’t, the printer then tries it’s own calculation to compensate. For example, if your image DPI is 315 on the Epson it will try convert it to 360, which can result in loss of detail.

@ramestica123 Месяц назад

Many thanks for comparing and providing insights of the results. At 18m12s you mention that perhaps profiling would take care of the minor magenta cast of the canon prints. But at least for epson printing b&w with the printer's b&w mode works without a profile. Did I get wrongly?

@leslielim890 Месяц назад

Thank you. Balanced and well presented comparison.

@hansformat Месяц назад

What about the gloss optimizer spray on the canon? Isn’t that a big advantage to eliminate gloss differential? Why didn’t you discuss this?

@tundrusphoto4312 Месяц назад

A very interesting comparison. Thank you, Tim.

@photoventureselp Месяц назад

Excellent review! Thank you for that! I wonder if there is a possibility that we have a comparison between Pro-200 and ET-8550. That would also be interesting.

@johnvaleanbaily246 Месяц назад

Interesting discussion - thank you. I own a 300 which has served me well for 2+ years now. My one complaint on the 300 is the small cartridge size, I would prefer larger, purely for the logistical purposes. Picking the type of black required on the Epsom seems from my perspective is a significant drawback. The major niggle for me on the Canon at setup time was the system automatically defaults to WiFi. I don't use WiFi for printing I prefer wired ethernet. Setting up for wired ethernet was an unnecessary and complex process. Black mark.

@andyhoyle13 Месяц назад

On the Epson P700/900 the black switching is automatic and does not waste any ink. This was one of the major updates on the latest Epson printers.

@Theking12375 8 часов назад

Who's best for best print quality canon pro 300 ya Epson p700 ansr me

@dexon555 Месяц назад

I can get a full suite of PRO300 inks for $124.00. Individual ink tanks are about $12.00 each. For my moderate use (1-3 prints a week), the lower replacement cost is easier to manage financially. I believe the Epson P700 ink carts are about $40.00 each (if memory serves me). An entire set is very costly for my budget. Just my $0.02.

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 15 дней назад

No epson carts are about $25 each but are almost twice the capacity. Just my $0.02

@dexon555 14 дней назад

@@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse Here in the US, the OEM Epson P700 Cartridge costs $38 each. A full set will cost $380. The cost per ml is cheaper, but for the personal volume that I print, the replacement cost ($12/cart, $122/set) is less impactful.

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 14 дней назад

@@dexon555 my apologies must have read an old article.

@malovke 9 дней назад

Would you choose canon pixma ip8750 or Epson xp 15000 ?

@rpmorrisjr Месяц назад

More video of the pictures and less video of you looking at them would be nice for future comparisons.

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 15 дней назад

Ouch! 😮

@cyphermote6857 7 дней назад

In case the premise of the video was not clear - the printing SME examines and compares both sets of photos and gives HIS opinion. He shows us the comparison as well for validation. It is NOT a video where he just shows 2 sets of photos and the comments section is filled with brand fans giving their biased opinion.

@chriscrowhurst Месяц назад

it seems that the differentiation is in the detail. Everything else you describe seems to be fixable using a custom profile. Did you create profiles for both prior to your test? If so did you recheck to remove the magenta?

@demiguel Месяц назад

I have the 300 and the P900. Canon has VERY visible ink drop pattern... :(

@anynamey 13 дней назад

It’s as if you can see in real time him realizing the nasty email he is about to receive from his Canon rep. The Epson does appear to be producing a superior print though I wonder if the difference could be made up for with adjusting print settings. That said the bit about the pad that isn’t user serviceable is EXTREMELY disappointing.

@kazdiller2114 Месяц назад

I seem to get better results with the Canon printer using the Canon print software rather than printing directly from Lightroom. Have you noticed any difference between the two printing methods? If so, could this explain the marginal difference in sharpness?

@kaneclements7761 Месяц назад

I've got the older Canon Pro 10S and I struggled using the Canon software. After watching Tim demonstrate printing from Lightroom my hit rate improved enormously. I do regularly calibrate my Apple monitor using a Spyder thingy which helps a lot.

@andyhoyle13 Месяц назад

Tim, your comment about black switching on the latest P700/P900 is misleading. They have ten channels so there is no black switching as there used to be on the P600/P800 and earlier Epson printers.

@FotospeedUK Месяц назад

Thought that is what I said?

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 15 дней назад

@@FotospeedUKyou did Tim, just ignore him. As usual Andy wasn’t paying attention at the back. Andrew, you really need to try harder and pay attention!