BTW, Galax offers a 3 year warranty here in Brazil, inside my country they would prolly be in S tier because of that, I'd like to know what Galax/KFA2 offers in other countries, where do you live and what they offer to u guys? @O!Technology @Nguyên Hoang
Thank you for the effort, these looks like simple graphs, but I am more than sure it took quite some time to gather the data together and finalize it into the ratings. Super helpful and awesome job!👍
In my region the 4090 FE is the lowest priced 4090 compared to any other brand. Considering the smaller form factor and how well it's designed and built, I think it's the best 4090 for the money. The hard part is finding it in stock!
One thing that should be added is COIL WHINE. For example, all ASUS cards are reported to have pretty bad coil whine noise, MSI and Zotac suffer from this as well albeit to a lower extent, while Gigabyte models are less prone to strong noise. At least this is my personal conclusion after reading a ton of reports from Reddit and other forums. So all in all, the Gigabyte Gaming OC is the best model on price/perf overall, while the Suprim X is probably the best if money is no object.
He couldn't add COIL WHINE because he didn't test them at all. And yeah coil whine is one of the most important thing to buy. 2-3% fps OC is nowhere worth annoying coilwhine.
After spending $10,000 on rtx 4090s, I returned all of them and only kept the gaming OC model. FE model coil whine was horrid and the fan had higher pitched noise. If you are obsessed with a silent monster gaming rig like me, go with the gigabyte gaming OC model. It's not completely 'silent' but everything about that card is low pitched, which makes the noise so easy to tolerate.
Two questions for those who know better than me: 1. 2:05 Does having a powerfull VRM really has an advantage while undervolting? 2. Just wondering if those unpopulated phases on lower tier cards can be… populated? Seems like and easy soldering work 🤔
1. No, 2. No. Also something that is completely neglected is the diminishing returns beyond 400W. At some point you only produce heat and very few fps.
Not 4090 related, but i'm happy and relief watching Galax SG OC in A tier. I have the 4080 version so it doesnt have to be so different Amazing video as always
I got a Suprim X Liquid, when it was in stock, and I can definitely say I'm happy with it. The size alone is great, because it fits nicely in a be quiet pure base 500FX, with the radiator mounted up top. I've got a native 16 pin cable for powering it, so closing the side panel is no issue.
Same here with my Aorus waterforce extreme.It runs cool and quiet and like you said,it fits nicely in my hyte y60 case.No bending against side panel or anything.I love it.
this card undervolts great. I run it at 0.875 volt@2300 mhz max. because I don't care about the few extra frames I could get from the 2600+ mhz stock. The result? 200-250 watt under full load, quiet, cool Nd absolutely no coil whine
I got the standard Suprim X and it's great, and no coil whine. Plus never have to worry about permeation, which is why my entire setup is air cooled. Liquid cooling works great, but all liquid cooling experiences permeation after 5-6 years, at least according to Gamers Nexus, who liquid cools a lot of crap. It's like the liquid version was made for maximum performance and the non liquid version was made for maximum durability and longevity while getting as close to the liquid one as possible, I love that design philosophy tbf.
The aorus 4090 from gigabyte are probably the most quiet i've owned but i would probably vertically mount or buy an anti-sag bracket because of their recent bad track record, or even avoid them altogether for now.
@corpalgt6261 no manufacturer will rma a cracked pcb most of those are user error but to each their own I recommend using an anti sag bracket for all 4090's if not an anti sag gpu stand all the cards are huge and heavy
If someone wants to buy a 4090 just for playing and having fun and let's say he doesn't care about overclocking, is it then a good idea to buy a Palit version, since they're cheaper than the others?
Wow I never thought that there is so much difference in quality in the GPU line up. There sould be a video for every generation so people know which graphics card to choose from based on this information. EDIT: oh I watched at your video list and this is exactly what you provide us with xD
8:43 shows total noise, that should be sufficient. Glad he mentioned that. Just going off of temps alone would have been a bad call given how much louder/noisy the gigabyte is compared to the lower noise models it is tested against.
@@KalebSDayisnt coil whine pure luck thing? From what i understand it’s ur luck we may buy the same gpu brand, you dont have coil whine, but i may have it!.
Returning my brand new Asus ROG Strix 4090 OC that I got from BestBuy. The coil whine is INSANE, and is so much worse than online videos could possibly represent. I heard the coil whine from my Kitchen on the other side of my house! I'm not even joking!!! I trusted this reviewer, and a couple others, to provide me a clear vision into which card to get. Nope, Strix and TUF are literally the WORSE cards to get apparently.
Pretty pointless really. No matter what 4090 you get, you’re getting the 4090 experience. The 4090 was designed to use all 600watt from the getgo, and only last minute nvidia decided to lower it to 450watt. The decision was made so so late in the release program, that the aib’s didn’t have time to change the cards. Meaning all the 4090 regarldess of what 4090 you get will be more than adequite for 450watt and should all hit 600 watt if available no issue. That’s also said for the coolers, they’re all massivly overbuilt.
Any opinions on the gigabyte aero 4090, would get the gigabyte gaming oc but don't really like the good. I really do like the look of the aero so curious about temps/ noise/ coil whine and performance
I was thinking of buying the MSI Gaming X Trio (White) because it looks the best in my opinion and didn't even know about the MSI Suprim X, which is what I want to buy now. It looks the best out of all the cards you put in the SS tier. Thank you for putting the time together to make this list!
Have a KFA2 4090 SG OC that I got at the msrp in my region, runs cool and quiet even when drawing 430W+. Have only heard coilwhine when at 600fps+ in menus in a few games. I have a 3080 Aorus Master (also a 4 slot card) that runs hotter and louder. Since I run my games mostly with a 120 fps cap, the 4090 in many games draws less power than the 3080, even when I run the 4090 with much higher settings and RT enabled at 4k. Very impressed by the 4090 so far and I really can recommend the KFA2!
I have 4090 HOF standard edition which puts me on 12th rank for vrmark hall of fame, squeezing 680W with gpu oc-ed to 3.06GHz running at 52C. standard stock fan, no mods.
I have the PNY RTX 4090 XLR8 GAMING VERTO and couldn't be happier. Great temps, it's one of the smaller ones and 0 Coil Whine. And I got it for a great price, €1750. After a few hours, the price went up and after a week it costs now over €2000 :D
This is a great guide. And as mentioned in the video, if you don’t care to overclock, then any of these cards will do as all perform within a percentage point of each other at stock settings. Overclocking and cooling performance is what you mainly pay for when looking at different models of the same gpu. That and potentially higher binning (silicon lottery) which can, if lucky, reward you with a more power efficient processor (always a nice thing :D).
Finally!! I've been waiting for this video a lot, and I hope you do the same with 4080. A question I have is, for those who want a watercooled 4090 for their custom loop, and that just want a ''normal'' OC, which to choose? A good VRM one and then put a waterblock on it? Because the Inno ones look meh don't they? I've thought about the founders if available but I don't really know what to do.
Hopefully I can do the 4080 video soon. For watercooling a 4090, I would just get a card with a 600W power limit and waterblock it. The Inno3D ones are very mediocre.
Been happy with my Asus Strix but it took a lot of searching over pcb pictures to find what I wanted. Thank you for making these accessible so I can come here for this information in the future. 😊 Would love to see this for AMD flagships as well.
Great video, thanks! Any concern regarding the quality or life expectancy of the Gainward Phantom compared to a Gigabyte Gaming OC for instance ? I am not planning on overclocking, so i'd rather spend the money somewhere else if it doesn't matter.
My Asus ROG Strix 4090 is supposed to be here today. (Waited till all the melting cables was figured out before getting one) but I can't wait to see the uplift I get from my Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC to an Asus ROG Strix 4090 OC
I got a palit 4090 gamerock oc and its pretty good. Made 5 different UV profiles and the gpu operates at max efficiency. 25W power consumption on idle (dual monitors) and 146W while gaming (tested with AC Valhalla at 1440p ultra + FSR quality + Mods + Reshade). Still at 141fps throughout the entire game(fps limiter at 141), basically the gpu is sleeping at 50% to 60% usage. It,s cool, quiet and powerful. OC wise (just a test): +1500 on memory clock gives another 10 to 20 fps, depending on the game.
Sounds like a 4080 would have been more than enough for your needs maybe even a 4070ti. But at least you have a lot of headroom for any upcoming titles that require more power (Remnant 2, looking at you)
I picked up a used PNY 4090 for $1400 (the seller used it shortly until he could get the MSI Suprim Liquid he wanted) and it came with a 1000w power supply that has the new 12VHWPR connector specifically for the 40 series cards. It may not be a top tier card according to this list but mine doesn't have hardly any coil whine and it does just fine for the price I paid. Also, I noticed stock it stays right around 2700 MHz using the stock Nvidia voltage setting of 1.050v which pulls right around 350w while gaming. What I did was used MSI Afterburner to undervolt and set my own custom voltage curve (ctrl+f with MSI Afterburner open) and now have it set to the same 2700 MHz but at a max 0.950v and it only pulls right around 250w while gaming. Runs cooler, quieter, more efficient and still gets the exact same performance as stock. I could flash a different vbios to it to allow a higher power limit but I don't really see a need to do so.
You neglect the one predominant reason to either buy or not buy a 4090, which in this generation is very obviously COIL WHINE. All 4090 cards run perfectly fine at stock power limits and OC is never actually useful because you will simply drive up power draw to insane levels while gaining less than 2% FPS on average. At the same time, reducing PL and undervolting the cards to the maximum will only lose you roughly the same 2%. ALL the VRMs are perfectly capable of running the cards stable and ALL cooling solutions are perfectly fine (oversized to be honest) as well. On the other hand though, your top rated Strix as well as the still highly rated TUF have undeniably annoying coil whine which sounds like it comes directly from hell and can be heard more than one room away from your closed PC case. They are absolutely unbearable for watercooling for example due to the coil whine being louder than most mid-level fans at mid speeds. Surveys show this to be the case for literally ALL of the Strix / TUF models. You'd be absolutely lucky to find one that doesn't come with high levels of coil whine. Your least rated Zotac cards on the other hand are well known to be some of the most quiet cards with regards to coil whine. The Extreme AMP Airo which you only rate slightly higher is the absolute go-to-card for everyone who can't bear coil whine, known to show whine only an a small percentage of cards. The GB Gaming OC and other models above the Windforce come really close, too.
Too bad I can't really compare coil whine for the cards. Everyone will have to read people's experiences on different cards in forums. Personally I can't care less about coil whine so I don't really get too fussed about it.
As I looked at the comparisons, almost all factors began to lose their importance for me, except for the coil whine. I'm not an OC person, so sound comfort is a little starting to matter. I was thinking of buying tuf until recently. but I see that the mentioned coil whine is at serious levels. I would like to hear a real sound of the card. What are your thoughts on suprim x liquid? It looks smaller and quieter. also liquid cooling can make it run cooler.
@@jackbrugts330 The data I've presented was collected from a hardware forum by hundreds of users with hundreds of different setups and PSUs, including several different Corsair models. I have tested 2 TUF and 2 Strix GPUs on a Corsair RMx Shift 1200W, Seasonic Prime PX 1600W as well as a Straight Power 11 1200W Platinum. While the coil whine sounded slightly different on different PSUs, it was still present at all times and it was horrible for all ASUS cards. I switched to a now watercooled Zotac AMP Extreme Airo and got rid of any in an instant...
@@majinmew7745 well I have 4 strix oc 4090s and no coil whine on 850 power supplies all evga with 7950x and not one hint of whine @3000 PLUS so maybe you should stop believing in forums.
I actually got a 4090 ASUS TuF non OC and I’m super happy based on the tier selection. Im pairing my card with a Ryzen 7 5800x3D and I can run pretty much run anything on 4K settings at 120 fps and 1440p settings on 240 fps. I manually did an overclock on mine so I can boost the clocks speeds a little higher than the OC edition , not worth paying more for the OC edition when I can manually overclock and get better clock speeds and save some money at the same time. ASUS is always up there with the best of the best which makes me happy.
TUF line is surprisingly good bang for buck (none really are when it comes to 4090 but still) I've been using a 3080 tuf for years (got it on release day) with 0 problems. For the 4090 the TUF and the MSI Suprim seem to be the best picks outside of maybe extreme overclocking.
Great video! Thanks! I recently bought an Asus TUF 4090 oc. The i9-13900k arrived a few days ago (paid $306.00 after using points). Initially, the new system build was based on an i7-12700k/ 3080Ti. Big thanks to the wife for all her points! Now I have a potential second system build with the i7-12700k/3080Ti, just need a new ddr4 motherboard. Current system is i7-6700k/1080Ti. Fair winds and following seas to all.
i have the eyes on that card too, because the cheap price , BUT, a 4090 is a 4090. But.. i have a question... does a seasonic gx 850 will be good or should i replace the psu too? i have a r9 5900x.
EDIT: I should've probably clarified, it's the AIR COOLED Suprim X, not the liquid one lol I think something missed about cards like the 4090 Suprim X is they seem to be built for durability and longevity, hence why it also won't allow you to use that full 600w and has overkill VRM. Which is why I picked it, along with all it's other pros, that's a great selling point.
@@InVersoFFVII the Suprim X runs 10 degrees cooler than the Gaming X maybe because the Suprim X got a vapor chamber. That should help the card to last longer. 🙂
Thanks this cleared a lot about the pricing models i see for the 4090's for me. Now I hope theres a real life benchmarking for all these cards, to see if overclocking is worth it. :D
Coil whine is so overlooked. I have seen great test results from ASUS but their coil whine is unbearable even at idle. If I’m browsing the web I’m not using a headset so coil whine is super important. All these GPU’s are very comparable in performance. The gigabyte gaming OC 4090 has a 4 year warranty and has great performance with nearly NO coil whine so my decision was easily made and it has been awesome!
That’s good to know the gigabyte gaming oc has no coil whine. The problem with comparing coil whine is it’s pretty much impossible for me due to lack of that information from reviews. I don’t have all the card myself either. And I can’t just take the word of random strangers on reddit or other forums either.
Its crazy you hear so much about coil whine in the comments, but the board partners never talk about it…they should also mention coil whine and do something against it..i wonder why that happens they have test labs. And how come, that rog strix has so much coil whine when they use the best components? It makes no sense
@@OTechnology I just returned an ASUS TUF OC 4090 because of coil whine. It's so bad in some games that it actually can be considered "loud", as in "very annoying to be in the same room as". I'm getting a Gigabyte Gaming OC to replace it. Fingers crossed.
@@OTechnology Exactly this, like if you go looking around you'll find for example forum posts of people saying the MSI Suprim X has coil whine, but then you'll also find videos of people with them proving it doesn't. There's so much false information spread, even by consumers that it becomes near impossible to seperate fact from fiction.
Yeah, I bought both a Asus TUF OC and Zotac OC and made really deep comparisons between these cards for about a week. You know, I returned my ASUS card. The Zotac was running cooler with the same noise level, It clocked better on the memory (it's more important than the core) and it just felt like the better choice. I didn't expect the Zotac Trinity OC to be placed at the bottom of this list. You can probably see this more like someone who judge the tier levels based on the specifications and some personal feelings.
I personally think FE is S tier list because of Price , Performance ,Cooling & Voltage unlocked. For few fps extra it's not worth jumping . Get a Custom Liquid cooler and you have a monster 4090FE if you are into that.
Bought a PNY XLR8 in December at retail 1599. Idle temp 30s, 1440p gaming 50s, 4K 60-70c. Absolutely no issues with it though I did have to tinker with fan curves - factor preset was terrible IMO. As he notes I have no plans to OC it. Love the performance Im getting - CP2077 4K looks and runs flawlessly.
I got the same card and it is definitely very nice however mine has some insane coil whine in some games, also had some weird gpu related crashing so im starting to wonder if i got a faulty one, had this since october but i brushed most crashes off as driver related oopsies but we've had many driver releases now and despite rolling back and testing nearly all again, the crashes continue. Gonna RMA today and see if i can get a new one.
4090 is a 4090. I think if anyone is looking for a 4090 if u dnt plan to oc your gpu then find a card that is close to msrp while users planning to get some marginal performance and cooling can fork out 200-300 more for more features and imo better quality usually with a metal frame or a lcd attached to the gpu
Recently got a PNY 4090 as well. Managed to find an new/open box on Offer Up for $1200. It runs quiet no whine or anything, and I wasn't planning on overclocking anyway it's a freaking 4090 it runs everything great without messing with it. But those upper tier cards do look nice I'm not gonna lie, I mean just aesthetically speaking. The PNY is kinda fugly and it doesn't match my color scheme at all but at that price I didn't care.
I have a Gigabyte Waterforce 4090 card and was interested in the statement that there is no point having a water cooled system. My system is a 13900KS, 32gb 7200mhz, Waterforce 4090 and I also use a x73 AIO for the CPU. The advantage of having AIO is two fold, the 4090 card size is reduced and the major one is it somewhat removes the heat away from the internal parts of the case. In my case I have the AIO for the GFX card mounted on the top and the AIO for the CPU mounted on the front. Both AIO fan stacks blow air out of the case. This has lowered internal temps of the case a whole bunch and I can run demanding workloads without silly internal case temps. My point is that with AIOs you have a lot more options of where you put your heat. You cant really hear the AIO pump btw way so this is a non issue.
That is a real benefit of AIOs for sure. I was just speaking in regard to performance, where there's no benefit in going watercooled since the air coolers perform nearly the same.
@O!Technology Yes from what I have seen with performance tests the cooling seems fine on long gaming sessions on demanding games. The latest patch for cyber punk with everything maxed out and path tracing turned on at 4k it is consuming near max power and heat on my system is stable. With AIO cards the performance benefit comes not from the card but from not heating the case ambient temp up and thus causing runaway effects to other components eg NVME or CPU. It's a total.picture approach to cooling and AIO cards give you those options. That is where the value and purpose of the cards are. But I get your point specifically to the card itself. I learnt a lot BTW about the components side of things BTW vs price as that whole side of thing had me confused as to why their is a $1000 difference in price in our country so thank you.
@@Hybrid330i Yea that's one big point in AiO / custom loop. Sadly in this generation there's only Inno3D Frostbite with warranty to be used in custom loop so if some1 (like me) would like to have a card with warranty (we're talking not cheap cards here) there isn't really much options: Frosbite or one of those AiO ones. I wasn't into Inno3D Black but it can be found very cheap (like 4090 Gaming OC) from 14-days returns with 3 year warranty and despite power limit and VRM i'm reading it's pretty good (AiO made by Arctic, same 38mm rad as in LFII for CPU and P12 fans). I could buy also 4090 Waterforce but there are some negative reviews on this card, maybe it's the problem with rev. 1.0 but shops don't mention that detail or don't want to ... Anyway that's a nice comparison - thanks @O!Technology :)
Insanely good video, thank you soooo much! Packed with exactly the right information for making the right choice! Amazing, just amazing! I am subscribed.
I have the MSI 4090 Gaming Trio and the lack of a vapop chamber does not destroy the cooling performance. This is nonsense. With a continuous load of ~440W (like Metro Exodus EE 4K ultra RT without DLSS), the card does not exceed 67 degrees and 1500rpm. With a load of 300W the temperature goes below 60 degrees at 1000 rpm. Usually in 4K games 350-370W the temperature does not exceed 65 degrees with max. 1300rpm. The card is very quiet in all cases. I'm on performance bios. The hotspot is always 8-9 degrees above the GPU temperature. Memory max. 72C in 4K games. The cooler is huge and the card weighs 2.2kg. Is this cooling ruined? All data without UV. My previous MSI 3080 Ti Suprim X on performance bios reached 75 degrees on GPU and 86 degrees on memory in 4K . Following this line of reasoning its cooling is garbage.
@@OTechnology if you refer to the test results from Hardware Unboxed, then go back to the Suprim X vs Trio X video again and pay attention to the rpm. He completely screwed up this test. 2000rpm Suprim and others vs 1400rpm Trio. What was the purpose of this comparison? I know this may sound like "I glory what is mine" but here Techpowerup did it right. If you correlate the rpm, noise level with temperatures, it turns out that the Trio does not differ much from its vapor chamber colleagues. By the way you missed level noise of Trio on graph in the 8 minute. I assume the fans are stopped ;)
Cool video! I still like my Inno3D X3 despite being “low tier”. My reasons: Zero coil whine and running very cool and quiet while being a rather compact 3-slot-design that fits a lot of cases. They may have cut a corner or to with the VRM but the cooler ist great.
Regret buying my 4090 as it makes so little difference to the games i play, while fps may be a thing for some games better graphics just don't bother me as much as i thought they would, in fact i like the idea of a super low profile that runs cheap and offers acceptable game play
Yes! With Galax 4090 SG i did right choice. Good to see that video. Other than that, i saw cheap suprim x and liquid x in the market, but this video made me happy with my Galax again. Also its coolest and silent card ive ever used, Thanks for the review.
thx this actually made my decision clear to go for the strix now as I can't get the Suprime X in Australia atm.. also good to know the non OC card performs just as well.. easy 250AUSD saved
It would be interesting to see this tier list normalized by price. For example, the Ventus OC is almost 700€ cheaper than the Strix OC. Is the Strix the better card? Yes. Is it 700€ better? probably not.
I have the msi Ventus 4090 oc due to its size as it’s no longer than my old 3080 & didn’t want to buy a new case, only needs 3 8pin power connectors as well which was a bonus & I’ve even managed to put 100mhz on the core with no issues. If you have a small case it’s well worth considering & you don’t have to miss out on 4090 performance.
@@Tutku35 GPUz says max gpu temp 64.2, hot spot 70.9, memory 68 with fan speed 32% 1056rpm, that’s with 100Mhz overclock on the core playing Witcher 3 next gen update at 4K. As for for noise it’s no louder than my old 3080 gaming x, most importantly there is no coil whine. Only downside is no RGB not even the msi logo, I’ve just added a light bar to the inside of the support bracket.
Great to know, just bought one specifically for its size. Was at the same price as the trio but those mm will be important on my O11 Dynamic (non Evo), probably will need to buy the 90° adapter from cablemod anyway.
@@evostu7814 thanks for the detailed info. I actually dont like much RGB anymore and being have to using different apps to sync them thus I disable anyway.
Ordered an MSI 4090 Suprim X yesterday. Initially intended to go with the rog strix but 2 months waiting as it wasnt in stock, wasnt worth it, the suprim looks stunning too!
Thanks for the guide! I've been struggling to decide ever since EVGA tragically left the GPU market. This guide helped me decide on the GIGABYTE AORUS MASTER. The ASUS Strix is $400 more expensive, and the Galax HOF is...hideous. Thanks for the wonderful guide =^.^=
@@razvanelpare the gigabyte cards the least likely to have coil whine because that’s what reddit says? Also, if I want zero coil whine, should I go aorus master or gaming oc?
@@redbullsauberpetronasjust use the include anti-sag bracket or a third party one and don’t transport your pc with the gpu installed and you’ll be fine from what I read.
I'm sad the EVGA isn't making graphics cards anymore. Sure will miss them I have the RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra. Sure want a RTX 4090 for the 24 gb VRam and dual nvenc encoders looks like STRIX card is only choice now!
I just got a strix 4090 but I don’t intended to overclock. Sounds dumb I know but with all the burning cables issues, I just don’t want to risk it. Haven’t started my new build yet so but I’m hoping I’ll have time within the next few weeks .
PNY XLR8 cooler is actually very good, and should be rated top tier. For 1-2c over 4090FE it runs ~300RPM slower, Giving 38.2db vs 45db founders edition using Toms Hardware methodology. I can confirm that even gaming the loudest thing in my computer is my HDD(silet fans, bequiet cpu cooler) Not my videocard... its the reason I bought it, many others have said the PNY XLR8 is effectively silent.
moreover, if you plan to watercool your whole PC, PNY XLR8 is the one, which uses the reference block from AlphaCool, with connectors in front/back of the block (not extending the high/size of the card). I'll give it a try. Btw. having 140fps in 4k I don't really need OC to get 10% more (so max currencies/voltage doesnt matter for me)... But it's always a matter of prios, of course.
@@nguyendinh2052 You can disabled integrated graphics in your device manager. My PC (PNY 4090 + 7800X3D) was slow to open games sometimes. I would open a game and it wouldnt start loading for like 30 seconds or more. It felt like it was hanging on some process or something. This went away after I disabled integrated graphics
-- Buying end of this month. Leaning towards the TUF though I do have the money for the Strix. Just not going to do extreme overclocking. Just a little. And I think I can offset cooling with my case (13, 120mm fans Corsair 5000D) and a simple custom fan curve in Afterburner. I can't justify the Strix. But I'd be open if anyone would like to prove me wrong. If you agree with me, I'd like to hear that too.
Thanks for the review. For the longest time I've been looking for reviews that look at the build/component quality of gpus/mobos to avoid paying a brand premium that isn't backed up by higher reliability/quality. Anyone can do an fps benchmark video, but reviews like this require good knowledge of electronics. Personally, I've wondered if the premium for Asus gpus/mobos is justified. From this review, it seems that maybe it is. I'm currently thinking about ASUS TUF B760 / Z790 and Strix 4070TI / TUF 4080.
Thanks. I wonder what you would consider "worth it". For example, in my nation, the pricing of the MSI 3090 Suprim is about 12% more than the Founder's Edition and the other high end top tier cards tend to cost more. Personally I think the Suprim is the one to get, as the others cost a lot more, although there's a case to be made that the AIO version of the Suprim is worth paying 4% more (that's how much more it was) than the air cooled version..
Considering how much money I saved getting a Gigabyte windforce, and that im playing top tier games at the same framerates as cards that cost 300-900 more dollars, yeah im pretty happy.
Honestly, the VRAM, clocks speeds and etc doesn’t mean shit in actual gaming, if you see the top rtx 4090s benchmarks they all get the same FPS average (literally 1 fps difference) I got the strix mainly because I really like the design and it is one of the quietest ones
I got the Suprim X. It's a ridiculously good purchase at the moment with the Strix OC sitting at 2200€ and the Suprim X at at 1920€. the cheapest 4090 models are about 1800€ right now so I'm really damn happy with that.
I'm with you guys as well, I have the 4090 Suprim X air cooled, and it's a gorgeous GPU. Quality performance and looks! The strix I previously owned had horrible coil whine which was unfortunate because build quality was tops like the Suprim.
I am so glad I found this video. I'm about to buy 4090 and I'm so lost with all those models. Great information, I think I'll go with TUF or GAMING OC. THANKS!
@@pmarciano1717 hey man I finally ordered MSI Suprim with air vents. Honestly I didn’t try it yet since I am waiting for a different power supply for my pc to even launch it. I’ll let you know how Suprim handles
Love my gaming oc 4090 i had a choice between it or a gaming trio from msi i went with the Gigabyte card because it had a vapor chamber and had a higher voltage limit. But honesty I really wanted a strix but those were impossible to find. At launch the bulk of 4090’s seemed to be asus tuf, gaming oc, and msi trio cards. I can’t believe how cool the card runs stays in the high 50’s and topping out in the low 60’s most games. And it’s more power efficient than I expected it’s more efficient than my evga ftw3 3080ti in its oc bios the gpu i had before the 4090. I have it paired with a 5800x3d now did have a 5950x but switched to a 5800x3d when they got cheap. Just waiting to see the 7950x3d’s benchmarks, pretty sure thats what I’m getting but came very close to picking up a 13900k. Its so crazy the 4090 can be cpu bottlenecked at 4k in some games. But I still would like to add a nitro 7900xtx to my collection soon.
@@GewelRealI went ahead and got the 7950X3d but I think I might have gotten the 7800X3d if it had came out at the same time. I drove 3 hours to a microcenter and I wasn’t gonna do it again so i got the cpu, a b650E aorus master, and 6000mhz cl30 ddr5. I normally get X boards but this time around a good b650e has everything I see no point in getting a 670 or 670E. But still waiting on a damn am5 bracket for my aio. I ordered one and my luck it got lost in the mail. Think I might just order a arctic freezer ii 420 or 360 aio. I have a kracken x72 and coolermaster ml360r now.
Are you loving the looks of the Gigabyte Gaming OC? I similarly had a 3090 FTW3 in my gaming build and lots of RGB bling. I assumed I'd pick up the Aorus Master 4090 this gen but I'm thinking of toning down everything going on in the case to focus on the 4090 as the centerpiece (i.e. still filling the case with RGB fans but getting a non RGB motherboard and subtle RGB on an AIO rather than a screen, no more Lian LI strimers, etc.) When I saw the Gigabyte Gaming OC with those RGB fans giving off a glow that can be seen through that huge heat sink I fell in love. A sort of subtle, sleeper looking card apart from it being massive and glowing with "power", lol. Still considering the Suprim X because it's still subtle enough and looks premium. But after having multiple MSI cards for mining they almost ALWAYS underperformed. Even my 3090 Ventus was the weakest of the bunch despite supposedly excellent cooling.
@@ChadKenova remember to set the affinity correctly so games use the 3D cache CPU die (as Windows for now doesn't know exactly which CCD to put the games on every single time)
@@jwlafferty yea I would’ve preferred the master or a strix but got mine around launch when 95% of the cards were tuf, gaming oc and msi trio. Yea I loved the way my previous ftw3 card looked but the gaming oc at least has rgb fans but miss having rgb on the backplate. I probably just should’ve waited for 3 months and could’ve gotten the card i wanted but as far as what really matters the card is great can’t believe how cool it runs especially the gddr6x. Yea I do like how you can see the rgb fans even from the side of the card.
This video actually made me buy a premium 4090 (MSI Suprim X) otherwise I would have gone with a Zotac, purely on pricing. The fact this confirms the price difference is also down to superior hardware and build quality, perhaps justifies some of the price difference. Ultimately if you're penny pinching get any 4090 but if you have a choice :) this video helped a ton.
@@Th3Fly1ngCow As I said it's up to you to decide if it's worth the extra cost or not. I wanted the superior build quality (if I hadn't seen this video) I wouldn't have even known there was a difference in components between them. And they may perform all the same in terms of fps but definitely not the same in terms of sound output when under stress or temperatures. That's all subjective stuff each individual can decide for themselves :) but how did I waste my money, if I knew going into my purchase I was ok spending the extra on better build quality, not performance.
@@L4J4 msi suprim have terrible coilwhine, only the zotac and gigabyte cards dont have any of it, thats why i chose the zotac over the suprim, you were lucky if you picked a suprim card without any coilwhine.
@@lethanhtung4972 I guess so then, I was initially going to get a liquid, accidentally ordered the Suprim X but have been happy with it since arrival. I haven't had annoying coil whine. So for those that do understandable if they regret their purchase.
Remember back when techtubers were warning us about RTX 4000 GPUs having transient power spikes that would cause PSUs to shut down? Whatever happened to that? These GPUs are very efficient and consistent for how much power they draw.
If going on synthetic benchmarks, when u have lots of xxxxx numbers ofc. some ppl. will say it’s a big difference, but in final all that is important, its how much % you can gain from 450W tdp to 600w tdp and that’s from 5% to 10%. But if you play games lets take an example in SOTTR: high overclock(1.1V,3000MHz, +1000mem- 480W, 65% fan speed, 74C, 129fps) and undervolt with overclock(0.096V, 2715Mhz, +700mem - 330W, 40%fan speed, 64C, 122fps), so 7fps(6%) difference it’s nothing compared with all that noise and heat.
Wow. Very nice! Thank you. Completely shifted my mindset away from the MSI Gaming X Trio I was looking at to the Asus TUF. Yeah, it's a bit more, but I am one for playing around with OC'ing, as well as a stickler for noise, and the ASUS TUF stats looks pretty nice.
Im starting to think it must be an Asus thing. I just upgraded from a TUF 7900 XTX to an MSI Gaming X Trio. The Asus had coil whine but the MSI has none at all
@@chrissyboy7047 This is great, thanks for the answer. I also didn’t find anyone on Reddit having problems with it yet and I hope I won't be the first 😐
I'm new here, much better video than I thought it was going to be (still frame videos). So kudos. I have the gigabyte OC RTX 4090 because it was choice A and A .. the only one I can get at lunch. That high tiered ASUS was sold out 10 minutes before the official launch! CPU-Z 9YK75J
.. LMAO am I going to feel inadequate because of the RTX 4090 TI or whatever they're going to call it. The plan is the same. Get the fastest card at launch. Use it for 2 years. Buy new. Repeat. I'm upgrading from my old EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra. CPU-Z 9mm3cz
I've got the Gigabyte Gaming OC and I wanted this card because it fits perfectly to my Raijintek Paean Benchtable that I've set horizontally under my wall mounted LG OLED C1 65'. I always run my RTX 4090 undervolted and Powerlimit to 100% I've got no intension to OC this card. It only should run my games maxed out at 4K 120FPS/120Hz. That's all!
@@jesmith2086 you can see the power consumption when you press ALT + R for come out the overlay. In Nvidia experience you can set what you want to see in the overlay. Just Google how to do that.
I had the chance of getting the FE and instead of grabbing that I chose to save $100 and get the PNY verto the one without the LED's the more simple base design. I regret my choices now but it's spilled milk under the bridge now. Owell it's still a 4090 and it's got good performance but I do regret not gettting the FE card... Don't be like me get the better quality card!!!
Was able to bag the Gigabyte 4090 gaming OC for £1594 with the current prime deals saving £300. Can't wait to try it and your video helped me choose between MSI gaming trio x and gigabyte. Thank you.
You were able to find a card discounted with the prime sale? I’m in the US and when I looked all cards prices were the same as always. No discount for the sale.
Dont forget - you have to also base decision on which FITS in your case assuming its not a full sized tower. But all these bigger numbers vs smaller numbers - the real world difference between all of these cards is marginal at best. These 4090’s all run close to the same level. Plus the OC potential ive read is about 1-3% which is pretty bad and pointless extra power.
Good video a lot of points made in it are founded on non normalized tests though therefore a lot of the information is incorrect I will give an example hardware unboxed tests on the Msi gaming x trio for temperatures which this video used to rank the cooling solution was based off of non normalized fan speeds. The gaming x trio was only running at 1400 rpm for fan speed which was the lowest speed of all the cards compared to suggest this in turn portrays info as facts is irresponsible the facts are we need a normalized test with all cards running at same fan speed to see exactly what the performance/temps etc. are under equal load a lot of info in this video as well as others ranking cards is based on incorrect information because none of the tests are normalized fan speed which would affect clock speed and performance etc. we need a video with balance tests to actually have any correct ranking of cards.
This is a great list and interesting breakdown! Thank you. I am missing one ranking however, the one where noise takes a priority. Looking for something quiet then possibly low temps and lastly decent VRM for minor OC. Kind of torn apart between MSI Suprim X and yes... Inno X3 OC in this department tbh. Thoughts?
I read lot of the asus and msi cards have coilwine, the inno most of them not. Shame this isnt coverd in a lot reviews. I like the msi Supreme a lott, but afraid buying it because most people complain about coilwine
@@dimento6097 I just picked SuprimX (last unit close to my location) and still testing it. Taking the full advantage of 2 weeks no questions asks return policy. This thing is really quiet and I am the guy who had his previous GPU watercooled. I like the fact it starts with the Silent Bios by default. It really gets you by surprise how quiet it is. This is of course only my example but I have no coil whine whatsoever, zero, nada, with my ear close to the card. The loudest part of my PC now is the 140mm exhaust fan on my chassis I needed to turn down from 1200 RPM to 700 RPM. Card looks good and runs good. There is however one small negative about it, power consumption compare to other 4090s models. It idles at 34 Watts while other brands can settle for 22.
