Which Seiko 62MAS is best? SJE093 or SPB143... 

Great analysis. I really like the SJE093, it's a beautiful watch. However, I'm with you. There is someting about the SPB143 that is truly special, and the grey dial is a knockout. You've made me feel better about my decision, and it's on my list. Thank you!

Totally Stunned - for once I agree with everything you said 🙂 There is much that could be said for honest products, not status symbols, sold at a fair price . . . These products are often difficult to identify with minimal advertising

Very nice overview and review! I have a 62MAS, SLA017 and SJE093 love them all for slightly different reasons. The 6L37 movement seems to be quite accurate by many reports. Mine is running at +2 sec/day over the last month I've had it. The finish on the SJE093 is the same as the SLA017 which is not far off from grand seiko standards. I let the SLA017 go due to size.

Can you compare all of the recent-ish 62MAS watches vs the latest SPB455 et al? I appreciate your analytical approach to watch evaluation

Nice analysis and well-argued point of view. Thanks. I've had the SLA043 for a year+ on an aftermarket strap and enjoyed it a lot. Is it almost fancy enough to be a Grand Seiko? Yep. Does that compromise it's tool watch vibe? Not for me. I hike, swim, climb, and bang around in it because it is a tool watch -- even if it is better made than its progenitor. It looks gorgeous, the dial is brilliant, as is the bezel. Would I be happier with a watch that was more faithful to the 62MAS because its bezel did not line up, the movement was basic Volkswagen, and the finish was uninspiring? I've had a few of those from Seiko. They are fine, but gone now. Sure they were faithful. They were also boring. And the SLA043 isn't.

Simply the most down to earth and compelling analysis on RU-vid so far.

Lots of people bitching about qc but has anyone actually had qc issues with and SJE line watch?? I doubt it... There are many videos of this sitting next to a bb54 and the finishing details make the bb54 look cheap

Thanks for the video, it was interesting. I have a Seiko SPB149, and an SLA037. We can probably derive and apply a few things to the SPB143/SJE093 comparison you’re making, since the finishing of the SJE093 looks similar to the one of the SLA037. The SPB149 is basically the limited version of the SPB14x line. The SLA037 is the most high end of the 62MAS recreations - everbrillant steel case, 8L55 which is a Grand Seiko 9s85 movement, but less decorated, and not regulated+adjusted. I initially bought the SPB149 because I wanted the SLA037, but did not want to pay 6.5k for the SLA037. I’m going to try to make a fair comparison between the two by breaking it down between parts: - Price: $1200 vs $6500. After owning the SLA037, do I think the price is justified? Mostly yes. It’s my favorite watch, my daily wearer. Do I think the SPB149 gets you 90% of the SLA037 for one fifth of the price? Also yes. But these extra 10% make me love the SLA three times more than the SPB. - Case finishing: The SLA is heaps and bounds above the SPB. The case edges are sharper, the brushing on the top is nicer, the polished parts are flatter, the angles are sharper. Lug holes are also better finished (truly round) on the SLA, ovoid on the SPB. - Dial finishing: Both are very well finished and very, very similar. The sunray effect is similar, the “powdery” effect too. Both have stamped indices (a legacy of the original 6217, to prevent indices from getting loose while diving), but the indices on the SLA are much more nicely finished. The angles and flat surfaces are more defined, the lume has been added inside of the indices and not on top like the SPB, and they have a black mirror finish to them - it’s pretty incredible in real life. The lume is also incredible on the SLA (the best lume I’ve ever seen), while it is a bit meh on the SPB. - Chapter ring: The SLA has a polished chapter ring that is incredible to look at, it just reflects everything like a mirror. The SPB has a brushed chapter ring. These differences are there by design, but the result is there. - Hands: The hands finishing is comparable - the hands on the SPB have that half-brushed, half polished finish that looks super nice. The SLA has polished hands with bezels on both sides, which also look incredible. - Date window: the SLA has a frame around the date- that is the same frame used on some Grand Seiko models, with bead blasted bevels and polished top. The SPB has no frame, and the opening in the dial has bevels, that are not particularly well finished. The printing on the date wheel is better finished on the SLA - it is the same date wheel as on the Grand Seikos with an 9S85 - silver date wheel with small striations. The SPB has a white date wheel. The printing is also sharper on the SLA. - Crown: the SLA crown is signed and polished, while the SPB crown is unsigned and brushed. Finishing on the SLA is better, under a loupe the part where you grip the crown looks rough, while on the SLA it’s been polished and is smoother. - Caseback: on the SLA is just laser-etched, which is a let down vs. the embossed caseback on the SPB. I wish the SLA had the SJE embossed caseback. - Crystal: The SLA crystal is much nicer. It has a higher dome, which gives a lovely distortion at the edges, while the SPB is just slightly raised - this is a design choice, and just my preference. What’s different though, is the antireflective coating on the crystals. The crystal on the SLA seems to be 100% transparent at all angles, while the SPB seems to miss a tiny bit of light transmission, and becomes milky as you angle the watch. - Wearability: the SPB sits flatter on the wrist, it is almost a millimeter shorter in height than the SLA. The SLA sits taller because the caseback is higher vs. the position of the lugs than on the SPBN. - - Adjustments: The SLA has tighter tolerances than the SPB. There is no gap between the bezel and the case on the SLA, while there is a slight gap on the SPB. The bezel clicks are nicer on the SLA, with no play. It is a big difference in tactile feel. Bezel finish is superb on the SLA, with laser-etched numbers on the DLC-coated insert. On the SPB, the insert is radially brushed, DLC-coated and the numbers are filled with paint. - - Bracelet: the SPB149 strap is very nice, but the SLA037 strap is even nicer, it feels a bit more rigid. The buckle is better finished on the SLA. Buckle is similar. - Movement: The 6r35 in my SPB149 shows a LOT of positional variance. Also, I can’t seem to get the same deviation every day. One day it will do +2, the next day -3, with no perceptible difference in what I do with the watch (for example, 2 work days), which makes me think that temperature, or knocking the watch might affect it. In the SLA, I have between +0 to +1 s/day, no matter what, it is rock solid. The movement is not adjusted in multiple positions but shows little variance, from -1 to +2s/day across all six positions. I hope this helps. I agree that the price of the SLAs/SJE093 seems pretty crazy at first, but once you have it in your hand it becomes clear that these watches are in a different league. The problem is the perception of the brand - they do watches from $100 to $8000, so people don’t see the brand as capable of delivering amazing quality - also they have their fair share of QC issues on low/mid-tier watches… Rolex, for example, only has one quality level - very high, which helps to perceive the brand very positively. They’re also the best at marketing and creating interest & demand, but that’s another topic… All this to say… try to get your hands on a high-end Seiko - they’re really comparable to some of the Omega, Rolex &co. Thanks again for the video 😊

A few years ago you could get a Grand Seiko for $4k, now Seiko wants that for a 62MAS... As you said it might be because it is better finished with higher QC but its a tough ask given the movement. I agree with you that the SPB143 is simultaneously worse on paper but better on wrist. Sticking with your car analogy - The new mini might be fancier and sleeker but the old one will most definitely get you from Joburg to Cape Town without being put on a tow truck. That being said the SJE093 is a very pretty watch but I remain unconvinced that its worth buying. Have a great weekend!

I have a SPB147, and I love it ! It’s on Uncle Seiko Z199.🔥 Got new for less than $900. Great video !

I have a Seiko solar diver. My only diver. It looks great. I don’t dive and I’m sure 90+% of diver owners don’t dive either. I also wouldn’t use a GMT or chrono as intended. Give me a solid build, solid movement, stylish watch that tells the time. That’s all I need.

I was debating on getting the latest 62MAS reissue or the new BB54. Happy I went with the 54, because it's +2 consistently, has no flaws, the new clasp is amazing, and being a bracelet person, I appreciate the rivet style bracelet (to the dismay of many, I love rivet bracelets). The 60 click bezel is a beaut and a pleasure to use. You contrast that with the latest 62MAS's movement accuracy and lack of a bracelet, coupled with having less access to service centers and overall customer service, it's clear the Tudor wins. And it looks like a dive watch from the 50s, albeit with modern upgrades. Nonetheless, the latest 62MAS, like earlier releases, is another limited edition. It's a niche market. It will sell out. If I see someone with a 62MAS on their wrist, I know, like me, they are a wristwatch enthusiast. It is a beautiful watch (I have a crush on it). I'm sure the 6L37 movement will make most happy. It doesn't need a bracelet, and looks best on a tropic strap. Seiko would make the entire wristwatch community happy if they gave the 62MAS a complete Grand Seiko treatment by upgrading the movement, putting a modern bracelet in the box in addition to the tropic strap, and most importantly, drop the limited edition nonsense. It would be nice to see the 62MAS as a permanent model to compete with Tudor, Omega, etc. Great vid. Thx

Ohhhhh My oh my did you nail this comparison. So much information packed into this analysis. Thank you for demystifying these Seiko models. You have validated my reasons for why I’ve decided to keep my SPB. Thank you for your hard research; keep up the amazing work. Best, AKA - Mr Valjoux

I take it the reviewer has never handled the SJE093? All I can see in this video about the watch is just 3rd party pics & video footages... Maybe try to get your hands on one (borrow it) and then make your comments? So many reviewers make their judgement of the SJE093 based on a few pics/videos, and paper specs...

Got myself the SPB 143 for xmas, you just made my day 😃

The 62mas is a great design and I should have one but…….Seiko really needs to work on movement accuracy and bracelets. I expect a little more from watches costing over $1000usd. Seiko designs are unique and deserve respect but I always get the feeling they fall short on some quality metrics. Great video as always 😎! Best regards

Fantastic analysis. I have never handled the "premium" 62MAS offerings but I have the SPB143 and it's fantastic. I find myself staring at it in awe of its beauty. On the bracelet it's very good but on a good rubber tropic, it's amazing. If I could design my own watch, it would be the SPB143.

Best discussion of 62MAS iterations I have seen full of keen insight and rare perspective. The SPB143 as you state steals the day because of its price point and honesty relative to its refined aesthetic and appeal. That said, the only Seiko I own is the Tuna 300m Seiko Prospex MarineMaster Tuna SBBN033 due to its unique charm and incredible Quartz accuracy at its price point. I just can't stand Seiko movements other than the NH-35 which are ubiquitous because they work as you say and being inexpensive, their wild fluctuation in accuracy is more or less permitted. To me, Seiko screws the pooch with their so-called higher end movements. In the $4K price point, I vastly prefer Tudor...pick one BB58 and not the 54, or Ti Pelagios an Omega or another with 'an accurate and regulated movement' where you get something for your dollar over and above a refined dial and case but crappy movement. Also, can't help but think of the appeal of perhaps the most iconic dive watch of all time the SKX-007 as you describe the 143...which fits the everyman characteristic you explain however on steroids. People look past the inaccurate, non-hackable, not windable movement in the 007 for its utter simplicity and durability and to me, still one of the best look diving watches that has ever been created.

Like those comparisons like taking a ride for example. And like always product analysis and product placement analysis at a level of the highest on yt🎉🤝🏅. All back up with real enthusiast attitude. Watched it with pleasure. Thanks

Nice. Very nice! This level of eloquence is how a weekend should starts.

The SJE093 is perfect. I don’t feel it on my wrist and the more I wear it the more stunning it looks. It’s not a cheap watch but it’s still in the price range where it can be used as a tool watch without worrying about scraping it up. I usually wear 41mm and up but this petite skin diver makes me feel like I’m getting more sophisticated in my taste and I like the direction I’m going. Bigger was always better but not anymore 🍻

I'm in agreement with you. I currently have a JDM SPB 143 and have worn it daily since purchase this spring. I haven't had any of the usual alignment complaints, nor the substantial regulation issues often commented on (perhaps as it is a JDM model?). The watch has admirably stood up to the rigors of sailing, diving and general life on the water with little signs of wear. Having owned several rolexs and a couple of omegas, I find it quite liberating to wear a very serviceable watch that I can wear without concern for it's well being. I always removed my watch before diving to clean the boat bottom, now the thought never crosses my mind. And the watch looks good on land as well. For all the commentary one sees bitching about the price of the SPB143 (?!?) I find it laughable. It's a 1k watch that does all (and more) that my 5-14k watches did without having to baby it. Cheers.

Maybe the Japanese should stop whaling and massacring sea mamals before putting dolphin emblems on their watches.

I just got my SPDC101 (SPB143) yesterday from Sakura watches. You are right on all accounts. I also have a BB58, that I just don't wear anymore. I like the Seiko much better than the Tudor. The SPB143, just has that everyday/every occasion feel. The guilded indices and the faux patina on the BB58 just doesn't lend itself to everyday wear.

If seiko had originally realeased the 62mas in a 39/40mm case with aluminium bezel , with a bracelet and 6r movement , keeping to the original slim bezel design and dot lumepit and priced it at about $999 , it would of been seikos greatest triumph. They could have still done the sla versions for people with deeper pockets !!! My favourite is the sla043, i love the everbright steel , the deep blue dial that changes in the sunlight , and the baby blue seconds hand gives it a modern twist . And its 39.5mm case is perfect. Whilst the new version is the closest to the original , i feel the 38mm size doesnt work on my 7.5 inch wrist. Great if you have small wrists though.

I’ve always believed watch enthusiasts to be romantics, whether we acknowledge it or not. What you said about the SPB143 is exactly why. Sometimes appreciating a watch doesn’t have anything to do with logic, rather it’s the idea of a watch’s essence that we fall in love with. The higher end models might be more visually pleasing and well built successors of the 62MAS but the SPB143 is the true spiritual successor.

Great video and content is on point, got me to subscribe. In 2021 I added the SPB239 variant with aftermarket rubber strap to my watch collection. It’s been my daily driver since, it's traveled all over the world with me. I hike, swim, snorkel, climb etc with it. This watch always gives me the feeling that it's capable of what I will throw at it and therefore my go to tool watch. I expect it to be the most worn watch from my collection long into the future.

Years ago I sat in a room and dropped an e and listened to a man on speed trying to explain Aphex Twin. Watching this, I'm having flashbacks.

Agree about the design.. but if would have to choose between that one and the bb54 .. bb54, at least for the effort/design of the bracelet which is a big difference. And no risk of alignement issues on the bb54

I have both SLA017 and SJE093. SLA017 wins for me any day.

It’s really cool looking, but there’s no way I’d pay that much for a Seiko. The movement is simply not good enough quality or accuracy. Seiko needs to step up their movement game.

New to the channel here. Gotta say, your voice is great for this kind of video.

I agree on all points fully. However putting the SJE093 in the same frame as a Volkswagen was blasphemy haha. A Honda Trail or a even an Corola would have felt better. All kidding aside im glad I found your channel.

Selling my SKX 009,007, Turtle, Solar chronograph, seiko 5,= Seiko’s SPB 143 😊

Interesting analysis at the end of your upload. That was exactly the reason for me to choose the spb143. And then also for the gray dail. For a moment I thought it was just me. We drive a (new) Fiat 500 btw, Mea Culpa.

Well it is a difficult question to answer. I have a spb239j which I like but the sje093 is more looking like to the orginal both size wise and internal dial wise yes it is more luxurious but still has that vibe. The spb collection does not give me that history feeling that’s why I believe I will get the sje093

I hear you but, I'd pay $2500 not to have the Prospex X on the dial. Plus, my Blancpain/Swatch bezel lines up on 12 every time. I couldn't pay $1k for a watch that didn't.

On my wrist as I watch your video is the SLA043. I really like the 62 MAS. I had another 62MAS reinterpretation, SBDC051. The SBDC051 was my "tool watch", not that I do much 'tooling' these days. I agree that the Seiko name is associated with the common man, get it done, mass consuming ethos, and I love that, so much that I have had many Seiko's in my life. The watch on my wrist on my wedding day was a Seiko kinetic. The SLA043 was different. It highlights the best of Seiko (I am purposefully not mentioning Grand Seiko). The SLA series are not for mass consumption like Tudor BB or the Rolex Submariner. The SLA series are limited show case pieces (at least with the SLA017, 037, and 043). The mass Seiko consumer base will never know or care if these exist. Most will be satisfy with the SK5 series and would pinch their nose at the thought of paying $1k for the SPB or $4k for the SLA. As I grow more mature in my adoration for the watch hobby, this SLA will be my last Seiko.

Reminds me about Rolex and Tudor, once a normal man's tool watch. Now only for the rich. At least seiko is still overing the normal man's tool watch, although prices are getting out of reach slowly.

I loved the end. Made me feel so much more confident in my decision to purchase the SPB model. I want a tool, not a dresser queen 👏🏼👍🏼

Such an amazing content with great insights from experience. Thank you so much.

100% agree with your commentary. The SPB 143 is one of the best Seiko Divers over made imo. Despite it's imperfections, the pros outweigh the cons and it's a pleasure to wear. I own the SPB 143 and SPB 213 and enjoy both. Have you seen the JDM SBDC163? It's a Royal Blue dial 62 mas. It looks amazing. I'm surprised it was never released to the international market bc it would give the SPB 143 run for it's money in terms of popularity. Cheers.

I kinda disagree, 3k for a Zaratsu polished Grand Seiko remake of a 62mas is not luxury, it’s still a tool the same as Tudor is a tool at its pricing over and above Rolex. It’s a stunning piece and fairly priced for what your getting, has notably more character than the spb143

Excellent review and thank you for being real about the SPB143. I’m keeping mine too!

Great video! And man, you are looking for an honest watch? I think you just miss the SKX007, which was all that you asked for. Tool watch, reliable, for the masses.

A nice review, and I bought SPB453 at last.

by far the best review of SPB143 available in internet

My 6R15 is highly inaccurate if I don't use the watch and just leave it on the table lol.

Original had only 150mm water resistance? Wild how far dive watch technology has come

I agree with you, the SPB feels like a iconic watch that has a purpose, that's authentic. While the SJE is more like a hyped "very special" very premium watch, that imo does not work at all, as it being more premium here means more authentic, means looking even more like a tool, so it gets a state of mixed identity that makes the watch feel off. Meanwhile, even if the SPB is objectively speaking in the movement department pretty overpriced. It is a much more authentic remake, as it is not ludicrously expensive, and it might be rought in the movement and around the edges, but so was the original tool watch it is mimicing.

Outstanding, a reference video for anyone who wants to know the differences between models.

Buena reflexión final , tengo el SPB143 y coincido contigo. Saludos

In Japan they have the concept of “wabi sabi”. About embracing the imperfections. I guess that is relevant for Seiko? I’m new to the watch community and I’ve become a bit obsessed by Seiko, but then there are so much complaints. So, I’m still looking for my first watch since I was a student in the nineties …

Hah! I have just had a parallel journey with the 6105 'Willard', except unlike you I found the SLA033 version was the one. Mainly because the case size, true to the original, is larger than the SPB237 and properly 'plump' (thank you Jeffrey McMahon!), unlike the slightly reinterpreted SLA Uemura version. Let's face it, the 6105 is all about the case... Great analysis, and you might enjoy Jeffrey for a refreshing perspective on the watch collecting obsession.

Most of the people commenting have not seen this watch and will never see it, so they console themselves that the 143 is better

Great stuff buddy! I really like the 62mas., as well as these reinterpretations. Though, I still think they’re a bit overpriced (and I’m not a big fan of that Prospex logo), so… I’m getting all AliExpress unbranded aftermarket parts and Seiko mod my own homage watch. 😉

If they would cost the same I would buy the SEJ because it is from a design perspective closer to the original. But I totally agree with you because of the price and the tool watch feeling the SPB is emotionally closer to the original 62MAS. Great Review!

I have a 6R35 in a presage that was running +2 seconds a day, took it on a flight and now it’s running -30 seconds a day. Sent it to Seiko and they sent it back saying it’s fine. Have tried to demagnetise it myself with a very cheap demagnetiser and did nothing. I’m not sure if that is the problem however. Slightly fast is beautiful as you can just hack it every few days. Very slow is an annoyance. Will be taking it to my local horologist soon. Any other suggestions?

I think Seiko execs are fans of 1980s TV series *Fame* and love the idea of customers doing the dancing; “You got big dreams, you want the SJE093, well the SJE093 costs. And here’s where you start payin’. In cold hard cash.” 😉😂

Great analysis. I wouldn’t consider changing out my SPB147 on an uncle seiko bracelet. Yes, it has a flaw, bezel pip not centered in the 12 o’clock triangle, but mine is surprisingly accurate and the branding of this model melts away into the dial which makes one focus on the aesthetic of the watch. Great analogy re. Volkswagen / Mini. I couldn’t agree more with you assessment.

Mike, great video. If you haven’t already, you MUST put a Seiko MM300 ratcheting clasp with diashield coating on your SPB143. TOTALLY changed the wearing experience for me.

Most valuable and informative 62 MAS video I have seen. Thank you. I have the SPB213 and I am interested in the new slim 62 MAS but I have a 6.1 inch wrist and I'm worried it will look too small. What is your opinion on size?

Yet more good stuff! As a Seiko dive watch collector I've owned most of the SLA recreations and can attest to their quality. But I passed on this. Why? Because I never thought the 62MAS was an especially honest watch (simply a copy of Euro skindivers like the original Bathyscaphe). It wasn't an especially good watch either and so its celebration is to me false and unjustified (unlike the '68, Tuna or Willard). So I completely agree - buy the SPB, or wait for the smalll case variant that will surely come. But 'honesty' in watches is so important (and maybe worth a video?) and if I wanted a very good mechanical dive watch watch for ±$1k, I'd get a Citizen or Squale -

Great video! I say as I'm wearing my SPB143 on a Crown & Buckle Black with Grey NATO. I think the SJE093 is a beautiful watch but I just love my 143; I wear it unapologetically and it just works. Mine is very accurate (especially while wearing it) and lines up like a dream. I have more watches than I should but this and my Baltic Aquascaphe in blue gilt see the most wrist time. Reliable work horses that look great and I just don't worry about them.

Everything about the watch screams sexy. A skin diver has no right looking this good & yet here we are. I've been lucky enough to bag 2 SLA reissues so i'll be giving this one a miss. That's not to say i don't want one though.

If you love the original 62 MAS and you value a vintage vibe above all, the choice is clear - SJE093. Seems to me that among these RU-vid reviews, the negative reviews for this watch are from those who, due to price / availability, cannot or will not buy the watch. But if your budget allows it, and your able to get one, not only will you thoroughly enjoy it, but also it will NOT decrease in value, being a limited edition / carbon copy of the most popular vintage Seiko!

As always such a well made video! Thanks! And I am again enlightened by you, I know nothing about Seiko, but will definitely get one as a beater, tried the one for about 500 usd called blueberry and it felt terrible, crappy bracelet and finish, it felt cheap, and, maybe thats beacuse it is haha. I call my Tudor Ranger my daily beater and tool watch, but my real tool watch is actually my Casio diver, when I swim, or do stuff up in my cabin, thats the go to, dont tell anyone…😂 But definitely gonna look at Seiko and your video made me think again that the best bang for the buck, for me at least, is still Tudor, hopefully getting the bb54 shortly, have a great sunday my friend and sorry about the loooong and boring comment! Your video was awesome!

Excellent vidéo. I’m with you on this one. I prefer my spb147 for its rugged, vintage feel. And for a more luxurious modern look I prefer the SLA065

I very much liked your video. It was knowledgable and well thought out. As it happens, I don‘t have the same preferences as you. I prefer an upscale diver with great design language and a very solid movement with virtually no positional variance that‘s not well known. For me this was the SLA043.

I've watched this video 20 times And eventually, I bought sje093 and will buy spb143 as well..

I had the 143 and liked a lot about it, but the 093 is the choice here. But I’d take the 017 over both, due to the better size. Also, Seiko 8L movements perform much better than the advertised numbers provided by Seiko. The 6r movement is total shit though. It was the main reason I got rid of my 143 and other watches with that movement.

had to sub after watching this video, true connoisseur

These are interesting and historic pieces, but something about the Seiko/Grand Seiko naming nomenclature always just loses me.

What happened to the "affordable" part in the remake process. Watch peeps are nuts

It’s a great reissue, however it’s sold out if not mistaken. Nowhere to be found today in any shop (at least in Germany).

Do you think the latest SPB 451-455 continues in the spirit of SPB 143?....that is, the Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, for the everyday man.

Excellent Review. That's absolute true what you say. The feel in a watch should account for 90% of one's choice. Thanks for your mamarvelous channel .

I bought the 143. Absolutely a stunner and get complements often.

I would go with the posh model and pay more but I understand what you are expressing. very thoughtful video thank you.

So are you buying this watch. New sje093 or pre owned date just. Can buy only one?

Seiko model numbering and lineup in general always cause an error in my brains. Why must they make things so difficult?

I'm hoping to see your review of the spb453🤞

I just bought a SPB143 and I love it! Great video btw, you’ve got yourself one more sub 😊

In truth, I'm half way through getting the components to build a mod. SKX013 size, but using a GMT NH34 cause they seem super accurate. Will hopefully have an original dial though.

I own many divers such as example Tudor Pelagos 54, Submariner Kermit, Sub ND both 2033, Jaeger LeCoultre Polaris, Longines legend Diver 39 blue and black versions, the new Blancpain Fufty Fathoms 42mm Ti23 just released, etc, I own two Seiko SJE093 just because I paid 2750 each from my dealer, one has a darker dial than the other odd I think, both are keep amazing time keeping at +1-3 seconds a day everything else is perfect nuff said. Everyone has there reasoning others such as budget, size, brand etc others follow the crowd, myself I don't buy preowned watches I rather walk in the dealers and go thru the whole experience that's just me.

I have SPB149 bought in 2020 and for 4 years I did not service it and the accuracy with which it came was not impressive at all because I have a skx013 with the 7s26 movement which sometimes gives me the impression that it is a chronometer 😂 (I'm not kidding, I've never seen such a cheap movement be so precise)...but after I serviced the watch, the 6r35 movement showed its superiority, so I recommend a service to all who have these series of watches and you will see a radical change.

Fantastic conclusion. A+

You (Mike) & James (Stacey) bought the SPB143 (me=SPB238). For time exactness (spot-on precision), I bought the Casio 5000U 1Jf (Made in Japan). To get the Superlative Chronometer shit out of my head, I own 3 Rolex Datejusts and a JLC Reverso Tribute 2017, and others. I almost pulled the lever on the latest "MarineMaster" SJE093, the Doxa Army... then realized, holy shit, will Seiko match/beat the Swiss (Seiko "meets" ISO 6425; since the 1960s, the Swiss pulled the plug on certifying non-Swiss watches!! I'm 70 y/o until Seiko produces a (Prospex-icon less, "dial labeled chronometer"), I'm done! BTW, Tudor's (first impression) resembles Hedy Lamar's homely, chubby sister... I've never liked homely, fat, ugly women! Tudor is not attractive to me; I owned a vintage model years ago but never wore it! The Seiko SJE093 (if the movement was "chronometer," perhaps glass-back is nice, but too expensive! MY SPB239 sitting in a box is good enough for me!

That watch should be 2500 and the prospex should be 1000 those cheapo sub style models they have that go for 5 -800 should be like 2-4 they’ve pushed pricing waaaaay too upmarket for the quality of pieces they offer. I like seikos but their pricing is so off. They just do t compete with the competition on numerous factors.

I bought a SPB143 four months ago and I wear it for around 98% of the time. :) I was hesitant at first cause I thought it won't work on my 7.5" wrist and most of my watches are 42/44 mm, but man it changed my mind completely! Love it so much. I even bought an OEM black rubber strap for it. It's just a killer watch!!!

I have both the 093 and 143 and neither replaces the other. I still love my spb. The finishing on the sje is on another level. Seiko is conservative with their accuracy but I’m getting +/- 2 sec a week, the 6L37 is a luxury movement. A thin movement is difficult to produce. My spb was +/- 4-6 and then I dropped it so I had it regulated and now i’m getting almost the same timing as my sje. I feel like both watches are worth the money especially considering how limited the sje is but the spb is such good value and worth every penny.

100% agree 👍 Refreshing for a watch enthusiast/influencer to not only praise the virtues of models at lower price points, but also to occasionally prefer one. Makes me feel better about choosing the SNE589 over the SPB143 - as I feel its design & price better convey utilitarian workhorse over precision and refinement. (Still saving up for that Daytona tho😁)

I enjoy your breakdown and agree with your conclusion. Though because I held off for awhile now the SPB451 is out. While at first I didn’t like the 3 days on the dial I recently held one. I was really taken by it and think it’s certainly a worthy contender.

I paid that for my SJE083 king seiko and still really happy with the quality of it. I like this 093 release but, for me, I wish it was much cheaper so I could wear it like it’s meant to be worn without worry. I’m okay with spending more money on dress watches as I know they won’t get banged about as much and of course they are meant to feel refined and luxurious.

I am really attracted to SLA037 and SJE039's bubble sapphire glass. I think the bubble sapphire glass just makes the watch "pop". If it has display caseback, the watch will be perfect. It doesn't but it is not a deal breaker.

The "spb 143" at 100%.👌👍I have a SPB147

Recently bought an SPB297 and I love it. That is because I first bought an SPB253 last year and I though that is such a lovely watch. And I totally agree with the movements. 6R35 on my black limited edition is so way off the specs! And the one on SPB297 is so precise! Anyways, great video, great analysis. I really enjoy your videos.

SJE093 - why did they make such a small run? They'll never increase in value much (may just hold) and thus Seiko denied all those punters that were prepared to pay the hefty price. Literally doing themselves out of business and leaving customers unhappy

has the value of the original 62 MAS watch increased over the years.

You speake from the heart and it shows. Great video