Seiko SPB143 vs Tudor Black Bay 58 | | 2 Years of Ownership Honest Review 

The fact that a Seiko is being compared to something 4x its price means it wins the comparison.

I have both (the newer SPB455) and BB58. Along with Rolex 114060 and Seamaster 2531.80 and 2220.80. I respectfully disagree with most of your points. The BB58 is great but I wouldn't call it a clear win. IMO Tudor has QC issues for the price. Divers from Doxa (poor lume and case finishing, odd lug width, base SW200), Hamilton (bad lume and bracelets, too thick), Mido (too large and odd lug widths), Tissot (too large, powermatic 80 with plastic pallet fork, mineral bezels) have compromising issues that rule them out for me. I have tried them and still think Seiko SPB is better. 1. Lume is slightly brighter on Tudor at first but both are very long lasting and Seiko is less "splotchy" because it's very thickly applied on the Seiko. 2. New SPB has shorter lug to lug than BB58 now. 3. Endlink fitment is a non-issue with the Seiko. Yes, the BB58 has tighter fitting end links but it is not noticeable on the wrist and barely visible. 4. Springbars on SPB are much thicker, heavier duty, as well as the case having drilled lug holes. 5. The handset on the Seiko SPB IMO is better finished than the BB58. 6. Also, if you take a look at many preowned BB58 listings, the 12 oclock indice or Tudor printed logo is often misaligned. 7. The Tudor Bb58 movement cannot be regulated. It is running -4s a day. I regulated my 6R55 Seiko movement to be +1 second a day. However, Tudor movement is full bridge to technically it might be more robust? 8. Case and bracelet on Seiko is smoother and has less sharp angles that don't dig into wrist. SPB is more comfortable. I actually had to use dremel tool, sanding sticks, and polishing to smooth out the bracelet and case sharpness on the BB58. 9. The SPB has a divers extension. BB58 does not. 10. New SPB has 300M WR, opposed to the 200M WR from the BB58. 11. BB58 bezel is 60 click, SPB 120 click. 12. Seiko has Diashield, BB58 does not. 13. BB58 has lume pip on bezel reportedly falling out. SPB is inlaid inside bezel and protected with sapphire cap to prevent damage or falling out. 14. SPB has smooth crown, but it is a little harder to disengage than BB58, Tudor has smoother crown action.

I went with the Seiko SPB143. The price was right. I bought it at Vaughan Mills watch store. They gave me 200 dollars off. If I was going to spend 5 thousand Canadian I would buy a Seiko with a spring drive.

I adjusted my Seiko SPB143 in 5 positions to +5/-4. Never loses time, never gains time. It's just perfect. Just glad I never had to spend stupid money on a Tudor.

seiko movements are ridiculously easy to regulate , escapement and watch has a video on it its really easy , i have 2 seikos with 4R movements running 3 seconds a day over . my alpinist is at -1 . as long as you dont have shaky hands id recommend learning .

Excellent comparison, thank you from a Seiko owner (on a Seiko budget)

My 62 MAS 140th anniversary edition came with 39seconds slow per day error, I sent it back to Seiko to be regulated and it came back 10.3 seconds per day slow!!!! Such a pity as it really is a great watch. I have 5 Ali Express NH35 powered watches and they all run about 5 seconds fast. Buck up Seiko! Very Helpful review.

I’ve owned both and loved both, if I were to buy either again I’d be tempted to get a Seiko and pay for it to be regulated properly as that was my main gripe with it. The Tudor stayed on the bracelet and could easily be a one watch that rarely comes off the wrist but the Seiko had something special and was a better strap monster with the flatter lugs. I remember taking it on holiday to Crete, with the bracelet, a leather strap, a black rubber strap and 2-3 natos. It felt great mixing it up each day and night, really versatile piece. Ultimately for me the accuracy was annoying with the Seiko though and it stopped it being a regular daily watch.

I wear my bb58 all the time. It is timeless, classy and simple enough to be an only one watch collection. Great video

I own the BB58 blue paired with the Uncleseiko jubilee bracelet and it feels unique, I love this one very muchhh

Excellent review. I had the Spb143 and loved "the look" beautiful watch but the movement was very disappointing. I bought it new from AD, was sent back after 18 months to be regulated, problems continued. I ended up selling it. I would by it again in a heartbeat if movement was more reliable.

Thx for the great content. In my experience, both have a place in one’s collection. The BB58 is a great daily that does not look out of place while ‘dressed up’. But at 1/4 the cost and with it’s hardened coating, I don’t think twice about wearing the SPB143 when I’m expecting to knock it around for the day doing chores. The accuracy of the BB58 is amazing (+2) while the SPB143 is, as you say, way off. So they are really two different watches. Plus, with both, you have both blue and grey colors to work with in how you dress up or down.

I own the BB58 and love it. I use it almost everyday. I also own the Seiko GMT Blue and Black. Love it but for no particularly reason I find myself not using it very often. Cheers.

Not sure where in Canada but any recommended place to get a automatic watch regulated around Greater Toronto Area?

I own both. Seiko 143 wears a bit larger. Accuracy on the seiko not great. If worn 24 / 7 mine runs about minus 20 seconds a day. If taken off for any period of time it starts dropping time like crazy. Generally I set the spb a couple of minutes fast and wear as daily beater Mon to Fri. By Friday it’s spot on!

I’ve owned both, and there really is no comparison quality wise. Looks wise, is the only realistic comparison to be had. Both are fantastic looking watches.

Thanks for this comparison. I always enjoy your content as we have similar tastes in watches. I have the SPB155 and got very lucky with COSC tolerances and no QC issues. But as you know it's priced much more competitively than the SPB143, especially at a discount. Despite my good experience, I'd personally hesitate to buy the SPB143 when there are other great options at that price as you mentioned. Currently longing for the BB54, though! Take care!

I love Tudor BB but hate the fake rivets...why?

Я бы все-таки рекомендовал решать проблему с сервисом, а не мучиться годами с неидеальными часами. Недавно получил из Японии редкий Speedmaster, секундная стрелка хронографа была слегка отклонена от центра (но в пределах заводского допуска). Сначала думал забить, потом отнёс по гарантии в офис Swatch Group, сделали за неделю, получил скидку от продавца за неудобства. Так и здесь, поднять тему точности механизма и центровки безеля - и пусть лечат! И часы бы за свои деньги понравились бы)

I really like my spb147 but it gains 20 seconds a day. I took it to the store I got it from and they said they can’t regulate it because it’s still under warranty and it’s technically within specifications for the movement

Seiko is the winner for me.

Have exact same issues with my spb143. Poor timekeeping, seems to vary greatly each day. Bezel is also off just like yours. No more Seiko for me, its very overpriced for the quality. Also, not seen this mentioned much, its very top heavy...Perhaps having a steel bezel and the height of the watch. Great comparison, save your money and go for the Tudor if you ask me...

Thanks for this excellent review! Would love to see a SPB143 with a high accuracy quartz movement.

Am I wrong or the BB58 bezel is misaligned?

I own the SPB 143 and love it . I paid $1000 u.s . No tax

Honestly for the money the Longines Hydroconquest is probably a better deal than both these watches, but in saying that...the Seiko design is very attractive.

I also have complaints about the Seiko 6R movements. In the past 8 yrs I've owned over 20 Seikos. Of them, 4 with the 6R, and 9 with the 4R. All of my 6Rs are highly inconsistent. On the edge of the specs or outside of it by a good bit, and vary greatly if worn, or sitting in watch box, or winder. And they even vary from week to week 🤷. And all mine with the "entry level" 4Rs have been great, always consistent. All within +/-15 secs/day, and many less than +/-10 (some 4Rs even within COSC). So I'm a bit frustrated in the 6Rs costing 2-3x the price, and that's what's mainly offered in the Seiko's that may interest me. Also there's been no real QC issues with any of mine except one. All this is disappointing because I really like my SPB147 & SPB213. They're some of my favorite watches to wear. 😐

I got this seiko for less than £900 and imo nothing comes close to this for that money

Well I believe the contest between these two designs is unfair. When you pay more for an item, it usually means it offers better quality or performance and of course between these two the Tudor wins. On the the other hand, for a few more dollars I could have a spring drive. If your going to compare a Mercedes to anything, you don't compare it to a Toyota, you compare to a Lexus.

My Seiko SPB143 is +2 sec per day out the box. You sure you haven't magnetised the movement?

There is no way to accurately regulate an inconsistent movement like the 6R. it varies way too much between wearing and sitting. I love my SPB213 for the looks but I won't spend that amount on another Seiko and anything over $1000 has no excuse other than just being lazy. They don't have to do better because of all the fan boys.

I own both of them, and I prefer the Seiko. That said, I do not quite like the weight of the Seiko and prefer the wearability of the Tudor.

Seriously?! Preown Bb58 in “very good” condition, full set are selling at $2800-2900, negotiable. 925 are selling around low 3k. Tudor is constantly cannibalizing itself with new hype models, current bel-du-jour is the 54. Comparing a watch that’s retailed 30-35%to another is disappointing. Even then, similarly worn spb143 are going for 900, losing about 3-400. Putting it squarely in the beater/daily driver with low service/maintenance cost. It’s like comparing fit n finish in a Civic TypeS vs BMW m340. Seriously?!

The question is black bay 58 or black bay 54?

Both are pretty but only one is a true nice watch. Tudor by a mile. Not in the same class at all.

1000 euros a lot of money for a unnecessary item that one struggles to tolerate, outch. Wish seiko had a incentive to make these watches better

Accuracy is ridiculously bad. I'd rather have a seastar with a powermatic inside

Seiko is the real deal (though in the 21st century it should have a solar quartz movement), Tudor is a wannabe Rolex.

As much as it is a very clear fast that the Tudor is overpriced (regardless of it being very valuable overall), don't you ever compare a Tudor with a Tag Heuer :-) Tag Heuer is garbage... not even worth thinking about spending money on, unless you get some silly no brainer discount and you just buy it as a beater. most people think that "Tag Heuer" is the same quality like the older "Heuer" brand used to be... far from true! it's almost borderline with premium priced fashion watches the Seiko "62MAS" Re-Issue is IMHO well worth the money, only bummer is of course the stupid Lume part they have added at 3 o'clock to all watches produced after 2020 (that was done in order to maintain compliance with ISO which means the watch is still certified as a professional diver), I wonder if they have fixed the movement running too slow issues with the slightly later editions of this watch (e.g. SPB147..)

But the Seiko is a prettier watch😍

Seiko movement are easy to regulate. It not a big problem bruh, U can do yourself at home. Seiko is with 1200 dollars price tag & Tudor with 4200 price tag. Its 3 times cheaper than the BB58. Ohhhh God. why is it still not worth buying with the price? 😂😂😂

100% polished sides of the Tudor looks kinda flimsy 100 dollar Casio.

Your compairing seiko to a 4x price ( tudor. ) What wrong with you.? Hahaha

The SPB143 is over priced. If i cannot afford BB58, I will still not choose SPB143 as at that price there are many watches that are cheaper and better.

No contest the Seiko movement is trash.

Какое тиссо,чудило,что ты советуеш?бред откровенный,проблемы с часами терпеть?окаких проблемах ты говориш?

Seiko movements are junk. Sorry :/

Love my sbdc101. Got it for $700 straight from Japan 🫶

Ilia kvalito ne estas malsupera al tiuj grandaj luksaj varoj. La fortikeco kaj atento al detaloj rivalas kun la originalaj dezajnistsakoj kaj mi ne povas kredi kiom mi ?paris. ?i estas la perfekta akcesora?o por iu ajn moda knabino! Mi certas, ke mi rea?etos iujn aliajn stilojn kaj kolorojn ?NKUWAN por kongrui kun miaj vesta?oj kaj ?uoj!