Which Vacuum Has Best Suction? Shop Vac, Ridgid, Dyson, Milwaukee 

jeffostroff hello, please text me on my what’s up +380969559550

thanks John, glad you liked it!

It worked here, does not take much to seal it.

Thanks Ryan!

What is misleading is that your hand pump could exceed 100" of suction

Okay, but both flow rate and pressure do matter. A vacuum pump doesn’t make a good vacuum cleaner.

Yes, it was too flimsy and would not hold on its own.

i only ignore it because it's cerebral for most people, they want to see something finite that can imagine with their brain, or see it in action. that's why I used that inches of water vacuum meter, because you can put it on all of them and relatively see how they perform at a glance.

@@jeffostroff So in other words people are just to stupid to understand a very simple concept of air watts. If there under 40 I guess I agree with you.

@@tazblink Yes, that's why infomercials over the years avoid science, and show vacuums sucking up huge amounts of sand off the carpet. Or piles of stuff that no normal vacuum would ever pick up.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Good point

Dyson is not practical for a construction site

What would you use?

Totally!

If only I had the same test equipment the vac manufacturers use

sucks trying to figure it all out!

To me none of the spcs matter. At the endof the day does it pick up my dirt? That's bottom line, because they all lie and misrepresent their power

My Milwaukee M18 has been a great one because you don't need top plug it in. But the 4 gallon Ridgid is my goto on my remodeling projects.

Good idea

Yes, 6 HP is good

sure they get 6 HP....miniature horses!

Have you tried eBay? Lots of people sell appliances for parts only

Still trying to figure what the optimal CFM is to vacuum your floor. I have an anemometer now, and may revisit the CFM airflow on these vacs.

The pressure measurement is not at zero flow or you would get no measurement at all. The inches of water meter that I used is what vacuum manufacturers use to test their vacs under development.

Ok. It looked like the gauge was blocking the flow. The pressure CAN be measured at zero flow and in fact the pressure is at highest when flow goes to zero (blocking the inlet). The best way to is evaluate the performance is: measure the pressure blocking the inlet partially and measure the flow at the same time. Multiplay the two values which gives you aero power. Refer to this link for performance curve. You see the pressure is highest at zero flow. dg30iru7ycmng.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/fan-efficienty.jpg

Yes this was not meant to be a lab result, this was not even the proper test equipment, since they actually use real tubes measuring the rise of water.

Because new owners maybe

That's the stuff for scientists to debate, not homeowners, because they often mislead about where the CFM measurement is taken from.

Yes, I want to do a SPL sound test one day comparing all of them.

I replace the cords with top notch 25 ft versions.

Tell you what, you gi buy the thousands of dollars in testing equipment, and we'll redo the tests.

Yes, when you keep the rolling brush clean and don't let the cylinder get overstuffed, this Dyson is like a tornado

What are your thoughts about using the dyson with a dust deputy to keep the canister clean for shop tool dust collection vs a shop vac since its suction was so much better?

Dang, I'm going to rewire it to power my house!

The difference is in the volume. These vacuums are achieving this lift with NO volume. I'm willing to bet that there is a LOT of CFM flowing through those turbine generators!

I don't do it anymore

I need to do that one soon, yes!

Man you hit the nail right on the head with that one I want to vacuum that won't roll over its own cord pain in the butt You got a lot of good ideas there. Will call it the “MA Terminator “

Amen. I agree.

We have the new Dyson V11+ Animal

yes good insight!

this was not meant to be a fair test. This was meant to measure the vacuum that each of my machines puts out. Also diameter of the hose is only one parameter, there's the amount of airflow too.

The test measures water column inches of draw. One inch of water column is equal to a pressure of approximately 1/28 pound per square inch (psi). Stating this another way, a column water 28-inches high produces pressure that is equal to 1 psi. A larger tank and hose will provide more square inches but will not change the pressure per square inch, which is the significant factor.

Yes I have heard those Miele units are good

I just bought the Dyson V11 Animal + vac, but have not opened it yet, hope to do a tool review on it soon. this one is battery operated. Costco normally has it at $579, but I waited and every few months they lower it to $479 or $439, and I caught it on a $439 cycle.

Inches of water is the standard it was made by OCI

Are you sure that’s inches of water, not mercury? A vacuum cannot exceed negative one atmosphere, or -398.08 inches of water or 28.8 inches of mercury.

That's a good reason

I would love to see a Dyson Shop Vac

whatever stops the flow of air. laugh all you want it worked

Not that it really matters but I hate painters tape lol

I have aluminum foil tape now, I'll use that on the next one.

In theory the suction might be reduced, however with the bigger hose sizes that usually make the vacuum motor bigger so it sucks in with more power

I have a V11 Animal plus that we are preparing to test

@@jeffostroff I never saw your video with the V11. I'm still interested in it. I got my own gauge, and my V7 pulses at 70. I'm not sure how impressed I'm supposed to be, but I'm a little impressed.

Yes, during filming I was misreading the hashmarks, I thought they were 2 per mark, but it turned out to be per mark, so I adjusted it in the text overlays. s far as the motor, you did not pay attention to the video, so eager to point out my faults so your criticisms are great when they have accurate info. If you look at 13:35 you'll see my hand point to the black part of the housing and I said the motor is inside here, then I said it's inside the circumference of the filter which is correct, I did not say it is inside the filter, somehow you took that to mean it's inside the filter, i was showing the size of the motor and where it is located so we can compare it to the other vac. All that is inside the filter is the plastic frame for the filter to slide over.

4 inches of lift per mark.

Glad I could help

Philip I love the vacuum and many times I use it without the bag because I think you might get a little bit more suction. The only times that the bag I think is absolutely necessary is when you're doing drywall dust because you really do want to capture all of that dust

@@jeffostroff well I was just strolling through home depot looking for the rigid auto detail kit for the vac and the kit was marked down to $20 from $40. So I bought the last two available. Figured it won't hurt to hoard one extra box for spare parts in case any accessory happens to fail me down the road. Also when checking out it rang up at regular price but I explained that the price was leveled half off and she simply adjusted it to the said price. Not sure what's going on there but andamn good score for anyone in the rigid line looking for a better longer hose and better attachments.

@@jeffostroff oh yea kit # VT2534

Nikon Z6 camera, but the cinematic look is called boceh, which was supplied by my $600 Z6 50mm f1.8 lens, that lens makes all the difference in the world.

Wow that is a good deal. I should have checked in our local CR as well, but then I was doing videos and tool hauls from the stores....

@@jeffostroff Yes, you're a busy man. When you have some time look at Craigslist. You might catch a deal once in a while. Again, thanks for all the videos you put out. I catch some good deals at Lowe's and Home Depot.

for garage I sweep up all big chunks, then use my DeWalt leaf blower to blow all the rest of dirt and dust out the garage and onto grass. Vacuum any dirt you see left, but usually there is none after the blower, I use the vac mainly in the corners behind bikes, tools, etc.

All these vacuums sucked!

They probably use a special jig in their test lab for that.

@@jeffostroff unlike u, failing to creat seal with your bare hands. This vid would b great, if u measure properly. It's useless as is.

Awesome Robert glad to see you're here watching our videos common Vince and the gang they put out some really good videos to I love their tool test raws

Thanks, I use a new Nikon Z6 camera that I bought last may for $2300, very expensive pro gear, but worth every penny. The lens i used on this is a second lens, a 50 mm f1.8 lens that cost $600 on top of the camera. I bought it because that f1.8 aperture is what allows me to make the background blow up out of focus while only the important subject matter in the frame are in focus. Gives a professional movie or documentary feel to it.

I prefer using either the 4.5 gallon Ridgid or the 10 gallon, some pros prefer to use the Dewalt dust extractors, but they can be quite costly.

The tests are not meaningless, the suction self seals, and it's more of a relative strength comparing each vacuum to the next. I guess you failed to notice the gauge has a rubber base so it eaither seals itself to the hose, or =in the case of a larger diameter hose, it wedges itself in side the hose. Only one of the hsoes we had to tape it to get it to mate up.

that is correct

Dyson also has a filter, so who knows how different it would be. I hope to review the Dyson V11 Animal+ in a few weeks.

The tape does seal it off, the air was getting in and the gauge registered zero until we put wrapped the tape and sealed off the opening. But I get your point about what really matters, can they suck up 4 gallons of water, or 50 pounds of sand. the [purpose of this video is to cut through the bogus spec that the manufacturers give us, and show a relative comparison of vacuum suction among the machines to show that even the smaller vacs are almost as powerful.

Just as a sanity check to see how much suction power it has compared to the others. Who says you can't use it outdoors?

jeffostroff it says do not use outdoors or on wet surfaces

The anime vac bro wtf are you talkin about, what is wet there

Lmao run it's a dyson employee looking to void your warranty :p

Maybe one day they will, I would love to see one.

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

Yes I would like to do the battle of the cordless vacs get them all lined up the wall no logging ryobi rigid makita even Hart if they make one

Just bought an anemometer and used it on my DeWalt fan review couple of weeks ago.

No, just ran it as is

jeffostroff it may preform better with a clean filter though.

@@Ca31_Buff It might but I tested all of the tools as is which is the condition that most people will be using their tools in most people don't operate with a brand new filter

jeffostroff well, as a vacuum collector. I clean my filters when they are dirty or starting to block airflow. Every 2-3 uses mine get a deep clean because the power has dropped from its brand new state. I’m not normal in anyway when it comes to vacuums.

no need. in a static lift test, there is no flow volume. The pressure between the motor and hose end will equalize. It just takes a fraction of a second longer, if there is a stuffed filter. A dirty filter impedes air flow volume, not pressure in a static test.

Love waffles

No matter what tests we run it won't satisfy people, everyone's an expert at vacuums and CFM

I love the 4-gallon vac, the large rear wheel rolls over extension cords better than the joke casters on the the 16 gallon

I had a Rigid wet/dry vac for over 18 years that gave me great service.. I burned it up on a bad outlet circuit that could not provide enough amperage and voltage.. Went and bought a shop vac that lasted no more than 2 weeks before the motor died.. Went straight to HD and picked up another Rigid like the one in the video.. Has lasted me a good year and a half so far, and may get another 20 yrs out of it.. Wish you would have also tested a Shark against that Dyson..

Yes we have always done a good job of emptying the bin out I wash it out once in a while we always kept that vacuum pretty clean

@@jeffostroff well color me surprised people actually do take care of their vacuums other than collectors like myself and the fact that it’s a dyson, all the dysons I did for work were in terrible condition

So you like them?

Of course it's flawed, it's not a perfectly controlled experiment. What it does show is relative strength, how each vac hooked up to the same meter, and the meter is not pegged, so it shows relative strength.

Glad you noticed, I shoot 4k resolution videos with my Nikon Z6

I like my 4 hP Ridgid best

Tom, I am wondering if you are missing the required vent stack or if your current vent stack is clogged. As you know, all our drain lines to the sewer should also be connected to vertical vent stacks (pipes) that go up through the ceiling, through the roof and vent to the outside so we can get air behind water and the water will drain properly, and plumbing codes require every drain pipe to be vented to the plumbing stack. There should be no excuse as to your drain pipe not handling the water from the washing machine. So do you know you have a vent stack there rising to the roof? If you can get up to the roof, see if it's clogged, spider webs, dead critters, leaves, etc anything blocking the air flow. Also, here are 2 paragraphs of plumbing code from here in FL, to give you an idea of similar requirements: 802.3.3 Standpipes ... Standpipes shall be individually trapped. Standpipes shall extend not less than 18 inches (457 mm) but not greater than 42 inches (1066 mm) above the trap weir. Access shall be provided to standpipes and drains for rodding. AND ALSO from Ch 10: 1002.1 Fixture traps Each plumbing fixture shall be separately trapped by a liquid-seal trap, except as otherwise permitted by this code. The vertical distance from the fixture outlet to the trap weir shall not exceed 24 inches (610 mm), and the horizontal distance shall not exceed 30 inches (610 mm) measured from the centerline of the fixture outlet to the centerline of the inlet of the trap. The height of a clothes washer standpipe above a trap shall conform to Section 802.3.3. A fixture shall not be double trapped.

thanks

LOL, yes the Max Headroom effect! Probably was one of those episodes where my lav mic was crapping out and had to post edit around it later on. We had to send it back twice for failures.

Yes, you almost need to be an engineer to decide which vac to use for each cleaning chore.

Thank you very much!

I did

nice vac

@@jeffostroff its as old as me lol

forget the old, buy a new cordless vac! Good sales this coming week at Costco on the LG CordZero will be $130 off starting 3/10

Yes, did you see our full tool review of the M18 Vacuum? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5HJx5xTm6Hc.html We showed it sucking up perfectly 2 gallons as advertised.

I order the cheapie bags off ebay and amazon, and yes they do tear up a lot.

Thanks Mario

All of those vacs except the Dyson are wet/dry, I love them. I use them to vacuum up spilled water or empty out toilets before changing them out.

One of these days I might look into 1 of those if I do another test run of different vacuums

Amazon has a cheap version

Glad it was helpful!

On the rest of the vacs I was able to get a good seal without tape. When you see me tape, it's because I could see and feel air escaping.

NO< that probably has not affected them. DID You notice my 3 year old Ridged 4 gallon outperformed the brand new Rigid 16 gallon that had not been used yet?

@@jeffostroff that should say something for us old fellers.