@@samyriyad8275 Then I guess a 105mm macro will be too long... hm, I would probably go for a zoom lens around 20-70mm with macro... if that exists for Nikon. Maybe some Tamron or Sigma?
I totally agree. White on white is so boring and creatively limiting, but so many client types what it. I still really enjoyed hating your take on it. Quite often the white product can loose shape and depth or even fall into the white background. Great use of black cards to help revive the product and pull in out. Very cool my dude!
This is so helpful. Most Ecomm sites, especially here in the USA require images for product listings to be on pure white background and I have struggled to create the right lighting to ensure the product stands out from the background. Thank you!
THANK YOU. This completely changed the outcome of the white product I was shooting on the white mini cyc wall I had. I just happened to have heavy weight translum material at the studio and switched it out for the setup you have here and the difference is night and day!
7:50 helped me so much. I was bumping up exposure on the camera to eliminate the grey background, but my white products were starting to wash out. Made me realise my lighting approach was wrong. Excited to try this out over the weekend. Thank you.
Perhaps a live stream soon, bot? Let's drink some coffee and do some shooting. I'm in isolation and have all my studio lights at home, so let's workshop! :)
@@botvidsson Thank YOU so much! I learned more in your one single video (from your techniques with photo taking) to the editing, then I've learned from any other videos out there. I am hooked. I can't wait to watch more of your content. Thank YOU so much!
@@botvidsson Martin! Thank you! 🤗 I am so happy I found you and your channel. I am not a photographer but just recently jumped right into it for a company I am working for. They have no photos of their products, just renderings. And, I am working with a guy to create video ads and he needs some decent photos to use. So, I'm doing my best with my lack of skills and experience :) and trying to get some good photos this week. I did some photography many years ago as a print journalist but it's so different. I really want to get into a lot more, for product photography..so lots of learning and practice. I love all these videos of yours - addressing all the lighting challenges. You are amazing and talented. I love learning from your videos - the photos on your website are unbelievably amazing - so thank you again!
The number one reason why white backdrop is asked is that Amazon ONLY allows the first shot of a product listing to be on pure white, so when someone searches a product group all photos the first images are on all white without distraction or clutter for all competitor products shown together on the same page for comparison. But, you are right, lots of other company websites like white also for groups product shots whether boring or not for backdrop, probably because it is easy to swap out new products later on.
Great video!!! You’re definitely one of the best product photography channels out there! Do you thing you could make a video about lights? I’m interested in what kind of lights are best for a beginner product photographer. Do you need fast recycling times? Or maybe short flash duration time? Whats the difference between 300W and 1kW? It’s all really confusing and I think a lot of people would benefit from that video. I hope that makes sense. Cheers!
Hello and thanks for the kind words. You will probably not need fast recycling time that often but fast flash duration can be good if you like to freeze motion sometimes. 1000ws is a lot of power, will work for everything, 300ws is kind of ok for many situations, I use 500ws and that power work for most photo situations. Watt Seconds are the power of the flash. In product photography you want a lot of power cuz you shoot threw diffusion and you want to use high aperture numbers like f11-f16 to get as much of the photo in focus.
This photoshop tutorial is so fantastic and so educational. Thank you. Would you PLEASE expand this so I can follow you step by step on my computer as well? This is the part that I have really wanted to lean. So great. I have been a great fan of yours. Thank you
Do you have any plans to make a white background product photography tutorial video? As a beginner photographer, I didn't know that photography would be difficult.
Great video, got a little complex there at the end, with the dodgin, burning and maskin, for a PS novice. Hopefully can absorb those last steps and replicate this. Thanks!
What spring loaded clamp are you using to hold the foam core in place? I checked your affiliate link but I'm not sure if it's the same one you have on there.
Thanks a lot for your videos! So great!!! I have a Question: Can you do a Video and explaining the Softbox Shapes? When to use what kind of box? And maybe a Video on all your Stands, C-Standy, Klamps etc.
What if the client needs the background to be pure white? How would I preserve the shadows from the photo? Or would you just create new shadows in photoshop after cutting out the product? Thanks
Yes, I often shoot medical products and clients want pure white. Then I cut the product out in Photoshop with the pen tool and add a soft small shadow.
You've got some pretty cool ideas and I love the final image you ended up with but this would mostly work if you have only a few products to shoot. If you had a dozen (or a 100) products to shoot this would be way too much work. It would be better to actually spend some more time on the setup and get it to a point where you won't have to do so much compositing (if any at all) and only have one image that just need a bit of tweaking.
Another great video and interesting to see how you would do a white on white shoot. I’d love to see more of your photoshop work when you composite images it’s really valuable to see your work flow. Hope you are staying safe in these troubling times and I’m so grateful you’re still making videos, I think you definitely deserve the coffee and I’m glad I signed up to buy you a cup ☕️ well deserved mate. Nick
Hi Nick and huge thanks for the coffee! Yes, I will try to do more post videos, the problem is that they are not so popular as the light tutorials. Don't know why...
most excellent - I enjoyed seing how you approached this and especially the black boards used to help define the product white edges against white background. Whats interesting is that the shot didnt look as clean white in photoshop as it did in the live shoot and on your tethered software. I want to achieve pure white for catalogue product shots with minimal retouching if any ! I was thinking how to do this using constant light source too as working from home doing multiple products and flash firing all the time is overkill for products that dont move im going to give a try as white on white has always been my biggest challenge to get consistent.
I actually had the wrong settings in Capture one, the edit tab was activated. Also, the best way to get consistent over all white is to use a bigger light source, the soft box I used was a bit small. Thanks and good luck
Thanks for the very informative video! :-) I was wondering which white backdrop you are using here? I've taken a look at your amazon list but it seems like they are not linked or sold out... Greetings from Germany, Tim.
I think I use the Savage Diffusion, probably Medium or heavy weight. I have links in my Amazon store but they might be out of stock. I buy mine from The Netherlands online www.cameranu.nl
Love the video and enjoy the different focal length. As a video idea (or series) it would be great to learn how you attract clients for your work. Not so much "products for Amazon" but more clients who want you for your vision and creative approach.
Thanks, right now I have some discussions with a client to make a video from first contact to delivering the photos. I think that would be appreciated.
Pleae make video on how to get rid of background looks so chitkabra means with different colours . Whenever I take a photo on box board , simple white paper background in Product Photography. Please give me a solution
If you use flash and have the correct settings on the camera there should not be any color variations. Tell me how you shoot and setup and I can help you out more.
Thanks for this one! I really enjoy your videos and just joined your group. I like the weekly challenges and I will be taking your tips to use with our own product photos. I’ll share some of them to get your feedback!
Very interesting.. Would you like to share how u can set warning on light room.. If u using other software the please tell me how we can set over expos warning on it.
@@botvidsson yes yes i see its very simple, in my way in your first setup where the background is more grey i often use another light from back/bottom. But i think you want use only one light in this case.
Yes, correct. One light, otherwise it's best to use a 2nd light for the background OR... I should have moved the soft box back a bit. (For some weird reason I had bright vignette on in Capture one!?!?!?!? Who uses that? Maybe in a X-mas family portrait from the 80s.)
Hello! fantastic video as usual Martin. I probably watched it 5 times at leased. Trying to replicate it. I have a bit of issues with the position of the light. I don't own a C stand yet, and will probably make my way to B&H today to get one, and wanted to get your opinion on which one to buy. Would really appreciate your input.
I use Avenger, they are probably the most expensive ones, very good quality but very heavy. The Matthews are also very good. I think B&H have Impact, I guess they work great too. Kupo I have not used. If I should get new today I would get black c-stads, the chrome sometimes reflect the flashes into the shot, not good but it happens almost never. It's ok. Make sure you get taller c-stands so you can get the flash up high when necessary. In my Amazon shop I have links to my stands. One tall and one shorter. Link in the description. Thanks!
I have Matthews, Avenger and Kupo. All work and do the job, but if I were to buy one today, I would get a Kupo. They are reasonably priced and the head and arm NEVER slip. Hope that helps!
Thing is, when I try to get a white background for amazon, I try my best to light the background with my studio light (godox SL60II, godox 60x60), try my best with the camera settings, it's still not going to be completly white like amazon wants, so then I try to go to photoshop, I up the whites untill it becomes on the edge of too much for the product (I balance it with contrast, shadows, blacks, clarity and dehaze to make for the damage of the increased whites), the background is still not amazon white, so I try to play with the erase tool, erase the harsh edges, then like I try to fade it with the eraser, so that the human eye wont see the difference (I don't want to crop around the product, because I want to keep the shadows), when I put it in ebay, you can't really see a difference and it looks like complete white, but when I put it in amazon, they zoom in on the product, the edges are gray, the whole photo looks grayish because I didn't erase much in the middle, only around to make like a fade so people wont see, i've watched many videos and I have no idea what to do to be honest... If you have a way and will tell me, it would be the best :)) (sorry for the pharagraph :Dd)
Not sure if I understand completely what you are after. I think that nowadays with the great selection tools in Photoshop it will probably go faster to shoot the product nice and then just select subject and add mask. Then bring back a bit for the shadows... if you get what I mean.
This is helpful, especially with the placement of light so as to get a somewhat even starting point when it comes to illuminating the product and background. However, I notice you had the same issue I have: there is still a noticeable gradient of shadow (light drop-off) on the white background. I've had to simply cut out the product and use a white layer background in photoshop in order to get it even. This is of course not ideal.
Outstanding as usual and i have no idea why you are not selling your tutorials like other photographers out there ?! They sell shit for a lot of money and you simply sell your amazing knowledge for free!! You are a master. Thank you
Thanks a million 👽 I want anyone to be able to learn photography. My goal is to grow the channel so I can do this full time for you guys. Only need another 100-200K subs 🤣
instead of raising iso with loss of quality keep iso at 100 and use multiple pops of the flash to gain the light needed with long exposure time and dark room. Love your videos and the fun you are having. Keep 'em coming
Never tried multi pop, is it like the high end Broncolor packs? How to do it on Profoto moonlights? Manually? What if you have 3 flashes... loooooong shutter speed? 😃
That final image looked too dark and the black gradient is way too much on the small bottle. Did you see the same thing but didn’t want to spend more time on it?
As a professional I understand that there are many different ways to light a photograph, and that each approach can create a unique and compelling image.
@@botvidsson It looks correct in the thumbnail, which leads me to believe that you saw it was darker at the end of the video. Anyway, I learn something new from you each time I watch, so thank you 🙏
He is achieve the clear white color, because picture in black and white did't contain any colors. Thereby he returned color only on the part of picture when it should be and avoid other color reflexes. The question is from where it's reflexes is come? @Martin
Thanks @Dmitriy, yes I always make the whole photo black and white with a layer mask and then put back the coloured parts, this will eliminate if there might me some color cast and reflection from other products like Dima said.
botvidsson Your channel is amazing. In addition to the incredible knowledge you provide, I could watch all day just for your wonderful deadpan humor. Tack så mycket! (Jag försöker lära mig svenska.)
Bra, svenska är kul! "Deadpan humor"... never heard that expression, had to google it, and I love it. Probably I need to make a new t-shirt. "Deadpan humor: The art of having no expression on your face no matter the hilarity or other reactions you are causing in your audience."
If I place the soft box too close to the products the background will be to dark, then I need to bring out a 2nd flash and light the background separately. I wanted to use only one light in this tutorial. If I place the soft box higher up I loose control over the light that hit the front of the product, light will spread everywhere. However... Now when you mention it I think it would be better to place the soft box a bit higher up, then the background would be more evenly lit, something I noticed in post was the dark upper corners on the background, to raise the soft box 1-2 feet would probably take care of that problem. Or... just use a bigger light source.
@@botvidsson Thanks, I was asking more for the quick falloff on the product if ever exposure is set on the top of the bottle. But in your care it was perfect as usual. Ciaoo
Now when I rewatched the video I realised that you are 100% right, I should have had the soft box a bit higher, better for the falloff, better for the evenly lit background... however, the cast shadows from the products would be a bit harder but that would not be a problem. Thanks!
