As a diehard Sox fan, the ownership is pure pathetic. After 05', everything sank faster than the Titanic. Closing the upper deck is so humiliating. As long as Reinsdorf is the boss, the team will suffer, along with us fans. The current park is not that old. For Reinsdorf to ask the taxpayers for ANOTHER park? No.
@@jasondyrkacz8270 The UC has been used for a lot of things. Thank god. For this idiot to ask for MORE $$$$ for ANOTHER ball park???? In a lot of ways, the current park is still pretty good. We got a chip in '05 out of it. Reinsdorf along with the Mcaskeys have gone too fr on this. Illinois is BROKE..
Ownership has turned away their most loyal fans and has plummeted this historic franchise to the ground. Fans are tired of investing in a team that doesn't appreciate their support. White Sox fans have given up, and rightly so. Anybody saying something different has never cheered for a team with awful and cheap ownership.
@@shouldhavedonebetterlitterally has nothing to do with it. I go to games all the time and never worry about that. You're obviously not from around here.
@@ReadIcculus93 you're right, I'm not from the South Side nor have I lived there (Morton Grove). But been there. Going to Wrigley is and was always better than Comiskey. Saying crime isn't the #1 issue in Chicago now is putting your head in the sand. Mercantile Exchange is gonna end up leaving. Warriors, Raiders, and A's begged Oakland to address it - and now they're gone. Not buying the Bears getting the city to build a domed stadium either - but guess we'll find out tomorrow. Still think they're going to Arlington, but maybe I'm wrong.
@shouldhavedonebetter I was more afraid of getting shot 15 years ago than I am now. I've never had to worry about at white sox games, before or after. Security does a great job. Funny you should mention the CME, I just worked a corporate event there for 1,000 new employees. Didn't seem like offices were empty there, in fact, it seemed like a whole lot of young people were moving in... but im sure you get into the CME all the time right?
@@ReadIcculus93 not talking about in the stadium, talking about going out afterward for a beer, something to eat. 15 years ago? Chicago homicides 2009: 459. 2023: 671. As far as CME - do an internet search. Might be moving to Miami or Dallas. Caterpillar - gone. Boeing - gone. McDonald's - gone. Tyson - gone. Wake up.
Jerry Reinsdorf is overshadowed by Oakland as the worst owner in baseball. The Sox already lost their window. He should be ashamed with what he did with the Sox and Bulls.
Bridgeport has supported the team for over 110 years. The location isn't the problem. It's Jerry Reinsdorf. And not a penny of public money to him. He wants to build a new stadium? Pay for it yourself
I agree that Reinsdorf is the first problem, but the location is not doing them any favors either. There's absolutely nothing to do around that stadium. Wrigley is surrounded by entertainment. A Sox game is just going to the game and getting out of that part of town immediately after the game. There's nothing to attract people to that park unless the team is really good, and that hasn't been the case in a while.
Having 2 clubs in Chicago is making less and less sense at this point. Chicago is in the middle of a crisis at this point and population is dwindling due to jobs leaving and soft on crime policy. Move them out of Chicago.
No, the stadium sucks. It was made outdated within a year of its existence when Camden Yards opened, and after several renovations its already showing its age. Plus the traffic on the exit off the Dan Ryan expressway onto 35th *SUCKS* during game day.
A gem? I suppose that's true if the only other stadium you've been to is the Oakland Coliseum. It's not the worst, but it's far from the best. They have great food and beer selections, but the stadium itself is just very generic and boring. It was just built in that period before they started designing more interesting stadiums like Petco, PNC and Camden.
@@LawrenceMajkrzak that doesn't really say much to defend the stadium though does it? Kinda sounds like you're trying to prove that their fans are fair weather fans that only support the team when they win a world series.
MLB is thriving globally right now. Move these teams to Tokyo Seoul Santo Domingo Panama City and Taipei. Those cities would ladly would give MLB anything they wanted
they’re needs to be a floor and a cap, i would say 125mil is the floor and 300 is the cap, also can’t defer a contract more than 85%, that back loaded shit with ohtanis contract was pure fuckery
He always says that the cold might be why the attendance is down until he wants to make a video about a specific team's attendance, then suddenly the weather doesn't affect it at all. Dude's a joke
It's cold and they can't win a game... Going to these empty games is a great time.... This guy constantly has the most basic NPC takes. The Sox don't have a fan problem. The typical Sox fan is working class and the economy is hurting them the most. Its hard to justify the expense with such a bad product on the field. I will be attending less games because thats what i can afford, and thats the majority of sox fans. I hope to see the worst team in history at least I'll have some fun doging on these guys.
@@Wizardsleave69 Your opinion will NEVER cut me a check. 😂 Maybe you should direct your anger at Jerry instead. I just bought my Yamamoto jersey (Dodgers). Please enjoy clueless Grifol and a 32 wins season. No more than 40.
The Comiskey Park name imo resides with the old park. The current one's best name has been "US Cellular Field", and even the Chicago locals I'm friends with still refer to it as "The Cell".
The more I watch Gingers videos the more I realize he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Guaranteed rate isn’t a bad stadium, in fact it’s a great stadium to watch a game when compared to Wrigley and that’s coming from a Cubs fan. An argument can be made for the Bridgeport area having little entertainment options but the low attendance is a mix between April weather and the Sox just being a historically bad team.
I’ve learned by “good” and “bad” he means the ones he likes the look of and the ones he doesn’t lol. He’s also very comfortable talking confidently about things he has very little knowledge of (his CFB video was a trip, he clearly doesn’t understand the sport that well)
For real. The more you watch it his videos the more you realize the man is kind of stupid. He like doesn't do research on things, he doesn't check for various opinions on subjects, and reports that, he goes off maybe a light wikipedia search up, and reports that information after a quick skim read. The most recent NHL areans are they in endangered video he put the Xcel Energy Center, which I have heard is a nice arena, in the endangered section. All his arguments pretty much were "I don't like it's exterior". He called it a "old arena" even though it was built in 2000, the same year as my Blue Jacket's Nationwide arena was built, and he called our arena young, when the xcel energy center was old. And let's not get started with him trying to pronounce names anything. I do respect how he says it with confidence at least, no matter how wrong he said the word. Thinking back further on his first MLS related video he talks about again my team the Columbus Crew's new stadium, and says the team joined the league in 2021, when that was just when the new stadium was built, the team has been around in 1996, in fact it was the first MLS team of them all. He pumps out videos a ton, and does the quickest skimmed research and reports it instantly. He's just a little stupid in all honesty.
I don't think he's stupid, but he is really far off on this being in a bad area. I really wish he would check out the demographics of Bridgeport and Armour Square. He's also trying to build drama about the attendance. And he seems to gloss over the fact that this very well might be the worst MLB team of all time. So yeah, no one's going to go. When the White Sox were winning, they drew three million fans (2006).
Chicago is losing (middle-class) population at a very high rate, just like Oakland. The "money" is leaving, and what remains absolutely cannot afford MLB. This is NOT rocket science. You can blame ownership, the stadium, location, etc., but these filthy, eroding, crime-ridden urban areas are no longer viable hosts for retail & entertainment businesses. Go ahead & build the ideal $$-spinning sports/retail complex amidst the urban blight... IT WON'T WORK... because the critical mass of people with disposable income have already left the region. Families & employers are leaving *certain* cities, and they will not return. Sports franchises will follow the families & employers, period. Exhibit A: Las Vegas. Exhibit B: Salt Lake City. Exhibit C: Nashville. These cities are GROWING - that's the common denominator. Chicago's One-Party "Leadership" is turning it into a minor-league city. Wake up, scro.
Yes, but I have known many people who left Chicago and moved back. You know why? Chicagoland is still an inexpensive place to buy homes. The average home price is $225K (factoring in all 99 suburbs). The average home price in Texas, Colorado, Florida, and Utah is now $400K. My friend in Boston is moving to Chicago this summer because the average home price is $700K in Boston. You cannot buy a nice home in California for less than $1M. Floridians are moving to Alabama for cheaper housing and due to Florida's skyrocketing insurance premiums where the average $350K home has a $10K homeowners premium. Most insurers left Florida after the three back to back hurricanes nearly ten years ago and others are now leaving the state and refusing to write business there. I thought about moving to Salt Lake City several years ago since I'm a skier/snowboarder and go there every winter for vacation. After seeing the cost of a 2bd/2ba condo is now $400K (used to be half price), I will stay in my downtown Chicago 2bd/2ba condo for the same price and is paid off. Californians have moved in droves to those states and driven up real estate prices. It is so bad that Utah's governor issued a public statement telling Californians not to move to Utah because they would not be welcomed. Now, Utah locals are unable to afford housing in their own state.
@@mpower1969 The Midwest region is an inexpensive place to buy homes. Wisconsin home prices average $220K, Michigan home prices average $239K, Ohio home prices average $215K, and Indiana home prices average $191K. In addition, the Midwest states have a reliable source of fresh water from Lake Michigan. Try living in Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado which are running out of water and fighting over control of the Colorado River. Texas is already suffering major drought. California is desperate for water and this was another bad year for snowfall. Climate change experts in the USA say that the Midwest (including Chicagoland) is the SAFEST place to live (with Lake Michigan to provide drinking water) to avoid apocalyptic conditions of more wildfires, hurricanes, tornadoes, and severe droughts which are forecast for Texas, California, Colorado, Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Louisiana, entire Eastern coast, etc. These reports also mention the importance of Lake Michigan as a reliable water source and the Midwest typically does not have severe weather compared to other states. The USA has no salinity plants to turn salt water into fresh drinking water. Without abundant rainfall yearly and no access to a major body of fresh water like Lake Michigan, those drought stricken states are screwed. Humans cannot survive without fresh water.
@@llee8825 you're not wrong, but people don't make rational (long-term) decisions. people today are incentivized to make short-term decisions. despite it's inherent cost+resource advantages, the midwest is SHRINKING - people are leaving... because they need a job now (not 30 years ago, and not 30 years from now), or they value sunshine over water and education. bottom line, the midwest is stuck in the previous century... unions, one-party governance, etc. some midwest states (indiana, ohio) are following their southern neighbors into the 21st century, but most midwestern states are going to continue to atrophy for lack of non-boomer leadership/participation.
pitch clocks, DH, unearned baserunners in EI, HORRIBLE umpires & video review, ridiculous costs/prices to attend a game... no thanks. local HS baseball is a MUCH better product.
@@scotttildi’m pretty sure the clippers old owner was forced to sell, i don’t remember exactly what team it was but i know the nba did force a owner to sell, but you know manfred, he just looks at shit and says “it won’t stink for much longer”
Nobody ever comes to their games early in the season.. Especially on a week day except for opening day. They'll actually have a few fans in the stands once the weather warms up. Neighborhood isn't bad anymore. That's just an excuse to try and get a new ballpark.
Florida is just a terrible place for professional baseball anyway. The only time the Rays and Marlins fill their stadiums is if they’re deep in the playoffs.
@@stevencramsie9172claiming that florida is a bad place for baseball is a dumb claim after seeing how packed the stadium got in the Wbc or the caribbean series, the issue with the Marlins is not florida, its the team itself, most of the people I know always answer the same when asked why they don’t go Watch the games, “the team always looses” or “they are too bad”. There is a lot of market for baseball in Miami but if the owners don’t use their money and time to have a good team then ofc nobody is going to go Watch a game
@@EvanEscher 3. The loyalties of baseball fans in Florida are tied to those places where other MLB teams have held their respective spring training camps for years.
Baseball needs to stop talking expansion. A’s, White Sox, Rays, Marlins and Angels need to get their futures figured out and cities like Vegas and (maybe but I’ve heard otherwise) Nashville are sitting back for expansion teams. Why discuss new teams when current teams are struggling? Supply is exceeding demand.
I went to a double header going back 10 years ago now where there may have been 50 people in the stands for the 2nd game. I've also been there for when it was sold out and packed during the regular season as well. Ebbs and flows of being a white sox fan. Nothing beats that place in the playoffs. Best atmosphere in all of baseball, hands down.
Here's a novel idea, put a consistent winner on the field first. A new stadium would be great draw for a year or two but attendance will drop back off if they still suck.
At 59 years old White Sox fan, I have never seen a team so horribly built. Blow up the team, the coaches, the trainers and upper management/ownership! The tax payer deserves a better return on their investments. I wonder ... Why won't a city, county or state fund every business with tax payer funding? Seems unfair that the owners get a free building to operate their business while everyone else must pony up the dough just to operate.
Even in years that are good on the south side, the Sox are hard-pressed to draw fans. During the year they won the World Series, the Sox only sold out like 10 games. On the north side, a sub 500 season still sees at least half the home dates sold out. Bad ownership, fickle fan base and a very poor ballpark to play in. New stadium won’t help. It’s a Cubs town. Sorry, Sox fans. Truth hurts. Last time I went to a Sox game, it hit me why. Sox fans are football fans looking for something to do in the summer. Just take a look at their parking lot tailgate scene before a Sox game…
You know - I have never been a fan of this New Comiskey Park since being built in 1990. But when they did the major renovation cutting down the upper deck and going to the green seats - it's really not that bad. If this was built in the same footprint and Northeast Orientation as the old park I could like it. But obviously they can't move it now. :(
No offense, but it was a double header on a Wednesday afternoon. Not many people have the time to skip school/work to watch the White Sox on a cold, rainy day. When the weather gets better, people will show up.
Every year northern teams in colder open air stadium markets have bad attendance. I have seen it at Fenway attending yankees/sox. As a Yankees fan I have seen it in the Bronx and Camden Yards in April. Attendance doesn’t ramp up until June/July.
@@user-js9xm7oc9n well that’s expected as they are the #1 team in a two team market. Just like the Mets, and Jets are expected to have the more jarring visuals of empty seats compared to the Yanks/Giants. I went to a mets game that looked like it was played during the 2020 covid year.
I thought Chicago White Sox was one of the 12 Original MLB Teams back in 1901, and they are threatened to move the team, like Nashville Tennessee. That’s sucks. At least Chicago Illinois and Nashville Tennessee are in the same time zone, Central Time Zone. Baseball fans should be a millionaires to go see the baseball game. Park your car for $25, tickets for $100, beer for $12 per plastic cup, $8 for hot dog, and $6 for soda pop.
Nashville this, Nashville that there is no Nashville until they get a ballpark, there is nobody there to pony 🐴🐎 up the money, it isn't available I'm reading the Nashville newspapers, nothing is happening
This is where gunshots were fired. Why would you take the kids and family to this venue. The combination of a bad team and the city falling apart has a lot to do with this.
I am a life long Sox fan. I would vote NO. Reinsdork does not deserve money as he has run this team into the ground. So let him go to Nashville, then he can go to hell.
@@youwereprettylasttimeisawy1227Shitcago doesn't deserve 2 baseball teams anymore. Illinois is losing population. (Chicago metro area will be leapfrogged in population by Dallas and Houston metro areas if trends continue) Cubs will always be the top team. US demographics are moving south and west and MLB can't just endlessly add expansion teams to these fast growing markets
In the 1990s the White Sox had some very good teams. They won a lot of games with lots of great young players. Attendance was good for both the Cubs & White Sox. If the White Sox were competitive in the AL Central similar to the Cubs in the NL Central both Chicago MLB teams would have great attendance.
i’ve said this so many times, take the yanks out yankee stadium and the historical factors and place a team like the Pirates there and people would call it bottom 10 at best
It's a business, and the league controls the outcome of games more than ever. It's smart to tank the season because even paying a decent team would only increase attendance by around 10% in this economy. I'm going to go out less but hopefully I can see history... Worst team ever!!! Let's go hate on these chumps!!!
I grew up in NC and southerners do not care about baseball. North Carolinians are crazy about college basketball (UNC, Duke, and NC State have the fiercest rivalries) and NASCAR racing. I'm UNC alumni - our motto is "State we hate and Duke makes us puke." 😂 Atlanta is not the south except before General Sherman burned it down. Everyone in Atlanta is from northeastern states which is why the Braves have thrived in the city. That's why I tell Jerry, please move to small market Nashville (from the #2 market in the USA) because I would enjoy watching him lose millions since he is a cheap skate. However, the City of Chicago and State of Illinois must demand Jerry leave the White Sox name, logo, and colors (all intellectual property) which belong to the City of Chicago. The Cleveland Browns were forced to do this when they moved to Baltimore. All the Browns' intellectual property was placed into a trust for use by another Cleveland team. The same should happen to the White Sox if this team is moved to Nashville then the City of Chicago should tell Jerry to pound sand!!
I'm a frustrated White Sox fan and I predict: The White Sox are going to break their lease, move to Indianapolis next season (2025) in a minor league ballpark - Victory Field - and then move to Nashville in 2029. The money lost breaking their lease will be less than money lost by reduced attendance to Guaranteed Rate Field for the next five seasons while the franchise rebuilds guaranteeing 500 losses and a yearly attendance of 200,000 in Chicago. The Indiana White Sox will draw 15,000 per game in Victory Field. Indiana fans who failed to get the Indianapolis Arrows in the NL in 1980 and whose last ML franchise was the Federal League Indianapolis Hoosiers in 1914 (the Hoosiers won the FL pennant that season) will shell out $35 major league ticket prices in the hopes that the rebuild will yield improvement by 2027-2028 until the franchise becomes the Nashville Stars in 2030. Indiana fans - however - are very discriminating because the Indianapolis Indians have won 14 Triple A pennants and 7 Triple A playoffs so they may refuse to shell out their hard-earned bucks watching the "Raggedy Sox."
Perhaps the White Sox should consider relocating to Indianapolis. That is a large metropolitan area not far away and Indiana politics are more sensible and less corrupt than Illinois politics.
The problem would still be, if he's alive by then, Reinsdorf. The Bears, because they want to own their stadium, are building on the former Arlington Racecourse right off the Northwest Freeway (the stadium site already has its own Metra stop). The Bears will own, the Cubs own, the Blackhawks/Bulls also own...why should the taxpayers finance the White Sox when the other major teams own their buildings?
@@michaelleroy9281 So why doesn't Indianapolis build a ballpark? They built an excellent domed stadium for the Colts, to replace another domed stadium that was not too old, to entice the Colts to move to Indianapolis from Baltimore. It should be less difficult to entice the White Sox to move from Chicago, since Chicago is considerably closer.
Chicago and Oakland, 2 of the worst Democrat run cities! People have no money to attend games and they are scared to go out at night because of the crime.
This is definitely an overreaction video, they're not relocating, they will be moving to the South Loop when it's time. Their attendance is always like this when the weather is cold and rainy in April and May. Their attendance during the weekends disproved this as the Sox usually get their attendance up during the summer months when the kids are out of school. This is not the A's or Rays situation, far from it.
absolutely, not to mention people show up when the sox are winning, the rays couldn’t even crack 25k for a playoff game yet the sox sold out in the 2021 alds
They should relocate. Chicago doesn't need nor deserve 2 baseball teams anymore. Especially with Illinois population loss and the fact that US demographics are moving south and west. Philadelphia St Louis Boston and now the Bay area all had 2 baseball teams at one point too.
Bad teams aside, not one penny of taxpayer money should ever (past or present) be used to build these stadiums. Million dollar owners and million dollar players to throw a ball? Exactly what do the taxpayers benefit from this? If you went to the White Sox front office and asked them to help pay for your house what kind of response would you expect? PAY FOR IT YOURSELVES!
Baseball, sadly, is a dying sport. I don’t see any kids playing pickup baseball or even watching baseball games on TV. MLB needs to relocate some teams to Latin America where the market is still strong.
When they tried to start the season 2 weeks earlier in March now to cram in more revenue they opened the season in cold weather. That has a lot to do with the low attendance.
@@stevencramsie9172it’s not real news though. It’s just speculation from biased chicago media that mainly focuses on the cubs/ cubs fans themselves. I live in Chicago and the only people still carrying this narrative are cub fans and biased cubs media. It’s pathetically annoying
@@HoshizakiYoshimasayea we do, 9.5 million people and you think they all wanna route for the cubs, fuck no, if the sox leave we becoming cardinals fans
I saw the highlights of my Rangers against the Detroit Tigers and they had attendance problems as well. Like it's almost a ghost town in that stadium or park and I thought for sure that there was no one was there to watch their Tigers play.
Comerica Park has not aged well, nor has it endeared itself to fans. It's centrally located and not hard to reach, it's just not a good place to watch baseball. The owner is like Jerry Reinsdorf and I think people don't want to support a jerk.
They're not relocating. The location isn't the problem. Never was. Jerry has not lifted a finger to improve the team on the field or the area around the park to improve the fan experience. Despite having the smaller piece of Chicago, they're still in much better market than any other potential relocation market
White Sox owner announced a new TV station in Chicago for the White Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks. It starts up next season. I wouldn't think they would move the team after starting a new TV station.
Demographics are difficult to ignore though. Illinois is losing population. Houston and Dallas metros will soon have more people than Chicago metro. The era of markets besides NY and LA having more than 1 team in a league are over.
@@HoshizakiYoshimasa But Chicago is the 3 best TV market in the country still they are making boatloads of money with their local TV. In fact they are third in revenue behind the Dodgers and Yankees' they are not giving up that market. Its ownership and management that is the issue with the Sox's they have no direction.
@@scotttildThe new Regional Sports Network in Chicago for the White Sox, Bulls, & Blackhawks in addition to regular TV deals with cable & DirecTV Satellite there are also plans for a direct to consumer Streaming option similar to Marquee Sports Network for the Cubs. The Marquee Sports Network streaming service is $19.99 a month. The new Chicago Regional Sports Network streaming service would probably be $19.99-$29.99 a month with three major teams. The White Sox are not leaving the Chicago metro area.
The Stanton contract was a lot longer than 9 years. It was a whopping 13-year/$325M contract which at the time was both the longest and most expensive contract in baseball hiatory. It was also fully guaranteed and came with player opt-outs (which will never be used) as well as a full no-trade clause. In other words it is a nightmare contract for any team. I believe Stanton leveraged his no-trade clause to get the Yankees to extend it even longer as well. He told the Yankees he wouldn't accept the trade unless they agreed to pay him even more than he was already owed. Including this season I think Stanton still has something like 7 years remaining on that deal and he's already been in decline for several years. He basically started declining as soon as the Yankees traded for him. The player opt-outs have already passed and of course Stanton refused to opt-out of the contract because he knows he would never get as much money as the Yankees still owe him on the free agent market because he's already not worth anything close to what he gets paid and will continue to get paid.
They Should. Chicago doesn't need nor deserve 2 baseball teams anymore. Especially with Illinois population loss. And US demographic changes moving south and west. Philadelphia St Louis Boston and now the Bay area all had 2 teams at one point too.
Naw that team is terrible, every time I get a notification about the scores, they getting they @$$ whooped. This a team/ownership problem not a stadium problem. U put a semi-competitive team on the field u will see the attendance grow US SouthSide riders r here but not when they just terrible
I watched part of the second White Sox game yesterday, and they managed to stop their six game losing streak in front of dozens of fans. Combine the fact the Sox are a bad team plus it being a cold and misty day on the south side of Chicago, and it's no wonder few people showed up. They do draw more people as the weather gets warmer, but the Sox have always been the neglected little brother to the Cubs in Chicago.
You don't go into why the team isn't performing at a level that would attract more fans. Chicago is the 3rd-largest media market in the country. Reinsdorf makes a profit before a single ticket is sold. What is Reinsdorf doing with that money? Not paying for better players, that's what. Nobody cared about the merits of the Sox ballpark when they were winning. Chicago won't pay for a new ballpark. The Cubs don't ask for public money, so why would taxpayers fund yet another stadium for the Sox when they already did in the 80s, for an owner who has no sense of loyalty to his fans.
@@michaelleroy9281 most likely it won't be the bears putting up it will be the fans and the tax payers putting up the money to pay for the stadium from higher taxes and higher ticket prices as well as higher concession prices
For me, the ballpark is located in a ghetto. Why pay hundreds of dollars as a family to watch a game, even if the team is good, which they’re not, and hope you don’t get mugged or caught in a crossfire after walking out at night. The area sucks.
In 2006, the White Sox drew 3 million fans, or 36,500 per game. This is a historically bad team. So of course nobody's going to go. If they put a winning team on the field they will pace the Chicago Cubs in attendance. This is something nobody is mentioning here.
Chicago and Illinois had more people then. It's one of the fastest shrinking states in the US. And will get leapfrogged by Houston and Dallas metro areas in population if trends continue
It's down about 150k people since 2006. In a city with a population of over 2.6 million that is not significant. And most of the people who moved were lower income and did not attend games anyway. This is a conservative media talking point which does not hold up.
@michaelleroy9281 The 2022 team was very disappointing and had a bad manager who no one believed got hired. They should have drawn one million fans with the quality of the on-field product between '22 and now. That Chicago fans still support them to the tune of nearly two million people is absolutely amazing, and a testiment that this is one of the most loyal fan bases there is in the MLB.
I think you underestimate how stubborn this owner is... not only will he not sell, there is a 0% chance the white sox will relocate. Simply wont happen in our lifetime. The market is too big, even in down years.
As a Cubs fan, I honestly couldn't care less if the Sox are good. As long as they lose the 4 games they play against the Cubs, their winning does not affect me in the least bit. It's great for the city when both teams are competitive.
