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Is crazy, knowing that Fulgrim is basically the older brother...I wonder how Dorn felt knowing him and fulgrim are basically 2 sides of the same coin. One is a feminine flamboyant with white hair, while the other is a Masculine, simple man with white hair.
@@itsbezerkintime67 No if you want a better comparison it's him and Ferrus. That's quite literally Griffith and Guts right there. Opposites but still best budz that (Berserk spoiler alert ⚠️⚠️) become enemies and one has to fight the other.
@@ironduke5058 90s anime still holds up, 3 cgi movies are pretty good, but reading it is still the best way to go. They *want* to kill eachother. I just don't think it's gonna happen for either of them lol
The other organ they lack is the sus-an membrane: the organ that allows marines to enter suspended animation in an emergency. It actually comes up quite often when playing the Deathwatch TTRPG with characters descended from Dorn-- they do not have the luxury of taking a nap if things go poorly.
In "Fist of the Imperium", contained within the book "For Glory and Honour", an Imperial Fist Champion gets blown up in an explosion, and they specifically say that they put him in a coma using his sus-an membrane. So either the author of the book was wrong, or the IFs actually do have the sus-an membrane.
Imperial Fist also recruit from Necromunda too ;-) . There is an event in a camping where your young ganger can be recruited by a "giant in yellow armor".
Butter on toast is a perfect metaphor. It’s simplicity is its greatest strength. Butter on toast can be boring at times but when you have good bread and good butter it’s the best thing ever. Also everyone gets that craving every once in awhile where that’s all you want to eat
@lolbit bot They are stoic and devoted like the Imperial Fists, but they also have a taste for pomp and flair like the Emperor's Children. Their Roman style politics and empire building is cool. Guilliman is memed as "lol boring tax man" but he's actually very idealistic and emotional and becomes reckless and depressed as he sees his those ideals crumble around him. Just like the Fists, the Ultramarines lean towards a boringly effective combat style of mastering basic tactics to perfection over having a hard specialty. They make up for this by copying units and tactics from other legions making them excel at being iterators at the cost of being unimaginative when they don't have something to bounce ideas off of.
@@lolbitbot4791 Ultramarines are the poshest Space Marines in 40K. Ultramar is basically the Beverly Hills of the Imperium. Their special traits include great hair and beautiful teeth.
Y'know, it's easy to say that the imperial fists are bread and butter, and to call that boring, but at the end of the day, you like bread and butter, don't you? And life would be worse if you didn't have bread and butter.
I always liked these pragmatic, logical chapters like Imperial fists, Iron warriors or Ultrabois over these over the top chapters with crazy powers/flaws like vampires of Blood angels or Space Wolves. Dorn is the man.
"get in losers were making the legion again" genuinely made me belly laugh. also i love the idea of the pain glove impies have always been my favourite chapter because of many reasons but the pain glove is one, the way they reflect via pain to clear their mind and how the black templars are an expression of their rage untempered by the usual self flagellation and clearing the mind. i think theres a lot to them, like more than there is to chapters with gimicks like the white scars or raven guard, like waht you see is waht you get with them but the imperial fists have personality that runs deeper not just sneaky bois or mongol boys. like the night lords in a way with the rabbit hole of their personality and lore.
Rogal Dorn, and The Imperial Fists can be summed up in one phrase: "I am fortifying this position." Also imagine if Perty and Dorn got along, the "Iron Fist Protocol" would be nigh unstoppable, and DEFINITELY unbreakable.
I respect it I'm weirdly enough a fan of a lot of Imperial Fist Successors more than I am Imperial Fists. Soul Drinkers, Crimson Fists, BLACK TEMPLARS, fuckin Celestial Lions, literal king shit
They also recruit from Necromunda, and a few other Segmentum Solar hive world's. They seem to rely on drawing from the underhive gangs of hive worlds for their novitiates.
That's... actually really stupid lore wise. What's to stop corrupt officials from just sending just about anyone? It happened to the night lords in the heresy and look what happened?
One of the problems with the last wall protocol is who is the ultimate commander. I always thought that Dornian stock would be honest enough to let the best chapter master command, unfortunately they have to have a dick measuring contest because they are still human and ego.
@@TheBoneZone40k You should do it. Just a little bit of tomfoolery. One has its flavor that suggest they are chaos and the other is where they are traitors but spat on Chaos like Iron warriors. Hell, talk about the fallen on the first minute the video then cut it to the Alpha legion and just give everyone brain aneurisms. lmao
Mr Bones, the pain glove thing has almost definitely been inspired (as so much has in 40k - Lionel Johnson the poet etc.) from a real life thing. It's an Amazonian (I believe male-only) coming-of-age ritual, where boys must don a grass glove with fire ants (or similar) weaved into the fibres, I believe 15 or 20 times for an extended period without relenting, until they can be called a man in the tribe. Cool as f***
@@DW_R Honestly yes. Have you ever heard of the YT channel Brave Wilderness? This guy there stung himself with one of those! He did it to compare with other stings from other insects... now that is dedication!
the coolest thing I like about the Last Wall Protocal is gather all the chapters together to form a bigger power symbolize the five fingers clenched into a fist, you know, the IMPERIAL FIST
The story of the dark angel and imperial fist duel doesn't make sense because both champions did the exact same thing. Both of them had one specific strategy in mind and did not waiver from their tactic. The difference is that one strategy happened to work out better than the other. The lesson of you should have changed your tactic still works, but it's weird to use the dark angel as an example of what to do when he didn't change his tactic either.
"And to be honest, I think it's perfect for them." **video starts buffering.** I have been having massive buffering issues for 2 days and I am already very tired of them.
great video, but you missed that they scrimshaw bones, notably dorn's hand and the feast of blades where they get all the sub-chapters to do civil war reenactments, where the winner gets a sword
I love the shield walls they do. Just the most enormous ceramite shields interlocked with a small port for a Bolter. "Advance, interlock shields, fire!" Imperial Fists are Rome. Thats why theyre good at building, logistics and defense. They are provokers like Rome too. They build up enormous military presence in strong military positions on the contested parts of the borders. Then they tell the others theyre acting "aggressively".
Love the Imperial Fists. Stubborn siegemasters who intentionally punish themselves whose primary literally remade Terra to be as impregnable as possible. I remember at a tournament I faced off against an imperial fist player who had three vindicators. He blasted me off the board. I had so much fun.
1-1, Iron Warriors barely breached the Imperial palace with all the remaining traitors by their side before leaving. The Imperial fists, who were utterly decimated taking the largest amount of losses in terms of marines (not percentage wise) of all the loyalist legions, got bodied at the Iron Cage. So, 1-1.
@@yerbritishboiakaanom3790 To add on, Imperial Fists are still relevant in 40K, so it's really 2-1 if you think about it For the record, I play Iron Warriors, that's how I know they don't matter
Dorm can be very stubborn also. When he was told about Horus he didn’t believe it and was going to kill I think Locan until it was confirmed that Horus did betray the imperium
Also, he did organize his legion which was best in defense, just go on the offense against Perturabo, and almost wiped out the chapter.. But we don't talk about that.. 😊
The flaws in the gene seed are they can't spit acid and also can't enter suspended animation and if they're from a particular chapter there's a chance they'll enter a state of super depressed ptsd that few ever come out of.
I always felt like the name "imperial fists" was kind of funny and silly. Like, imperial is fine, that's what they are, but then the word "fists" just sounds like something an overly aggressive teenager would think of to sound tough. I mean I get it, you punch with your fists, I understand it makes sense. But couldn't they come up with something a little more.... creative or meaningful? Idk that's just a rant that has bugged me since I became enthralled in the WH universe. I kind of find rogal to be somehow both dull but impossibly interesting. It's a contradiction that I'm still sorting through. You can always count on him to do the "angry overly stern father" thing as if he walks around with his hand up beside his head as if he's just waiting to backhand somebody for not making their bed properly. But he's also brilliant and stoic and incredibly artful and wise. Sometimes I think I like him among my favorite primarchs and then he will do something that just makes me go "seriously?". That said he is a legit badass and amazing at what he does, and as a more loyalist fan I acknowledge that he is the only person who could have achieved even a measure of what he did on Terra against the traitors. And last thing, he is the gene father of sigismund, and that in itself gives him major points. Sigi is a beast and an interesting person. Also Alexis pollux. Love that guy
Your videos are becoming my favourite Warhammer videos , hope to see you in the big channel league one day ! Are you gonna do a video after finishing the legions about the famous successor chapters like the black templars or flesh teaters?
I have to disagree hard with the Imperial Fists being dull. I get that this is what you see first when looking at them and probably even for a long time. But once you really get into them, you see to start seeing so much more. I dont feel like writing up an exploration of them here right now though. In short, they are about family, respect, trust, humanity, overcoming your weaknesses and trying your best.
The Fists are cool, but the Black Templars is where it's at. I have a decent force of BT's, around 4000 points right now (including 5 x Primaris Dreadnoughts) I am reaaaaaallly hoping they do a Primaris, Crusader Land Raider for tenth. I think we're just going to be using the older kits though, as they are selling like hot cakes right now, due to transports being good again. I need to get 1 x for my BT's, then cram it full of Crusader squads, and maybe some swords bro's. How is your BT army looking? I still need to paint mine TBh as have been working on a scheme. I have a lot of minis for them though, just still boxed. I'm actually focussing more on my Nids and Orks right now. I have a Hivefleet Kraken splinter fleet (I'm going to call them Hive fleet Asmodeus or Hive fleet Paimon or something... something from the Ars Goetia, as they have a much deeper red chitin, so more daemonic in appearance)... and my orks are going to be a fully mechanized force. Not really a speed waaargh, but definitely a lot of repurposed Tech... I'm painting them as Death Skulls, as these guys are known to loot tech from other races. PS: I hope you do a series on Successor chapters next. This is where the flavour is. Flesh Tearers, Crimson fists and Black Templars... nuff said.
If ultramarines are vanilla ice cream, imperial fists are unflavored ice cream. Which is perhaps why they have some of the most flavorful successor chapters, and I'm totally not just saying that because one of my homebrew chapters is IF descended.
I feel like I'd enjoy you playing a Warhammer 40k game with AdumPlaze. You and Scoot specifically would bounce beautifully off each-other. Might get a little gay along the way, but that is a sacrifice you're willing to make.
it's so goofy like, in melee right now he's strength 12, but gets +1 to wound against vehicles, which means he's wounding on 2+ against knights, which is hilarious
Have played Imperial Fists for 30 years now. They are a great balanced chapter. Sadly they get over looked by GW all the time. I will say they look great on the game table.
I'd say the fists are more like a pile of sticks, rocks and string. Simple, but capable of being used creativily, but not good at anything in anything but adaptability. They can be turned into complex machines. They also can be turned into walls, and the Fists like walls.
I feel bad for saying this, but when I see Imperial Fists with red shoulder outlining/chest icon, it makes me think of them as warriors fighting for Ronald McDonald. They look like a fast food version of SM, when they have silver, it looks cool.
@@bloodkip9462 you have the audacity to equate vanilla with “plain”. the fruit of a delicate orchid pollinated by hand. worth its weight in solid gold and beyond. the fussy black-and-cream jewel of the american continent. you sick son of horus. imagine a world without vanilla. no blondies. no pound cakes. no crème brûlée, no coke floats. no cream soda. no satiny new york-style cheesecakes. no warm apple pie à la mode. no velvety complexity to bring out complex notes in chocolate desserts. no depth of flavour in your cakes and cookies and milkshakes. all in just a few precious seeds or grams of paste or perfumed teaspoons of liquid black platinum. what you don’t understand could fill the black library seven times over and then some. (This is a joke ... obviously)
That honor duel seems like the roles should have been reversed. Using the shield and waiting for the other guy to tire himself out seems like something an Imperial Fist would do.
Isn't this the chapter that when forming a phalanx line they lock their armor? So that they can't move no matter what, and they slowly move forward, unlocking and locking their armor in their assault? I don't Space Marine, just curious
When did the honor duel take place was sigismund not around back then also Lysander is supposed to be a pretty big badass he's the first company captain and he at one point was the optimal candidate for chapter master but he refused
