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Who Can Build a Piston Powered Engine With the MOST Horsepower? 

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Today we're back in Scrap Mechanic with a piston powered engine build off! I've invited Kosmo to come join and try and build his first piston engine and we're going to compete to see who can build a 4 piston engine with the most horsepower on the dyno!
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@kANGaming
@kANGaming 10 месяцев назад
Make sure to check out Kosmo and give him pointers on how to make his engines better! Also give me pointers too... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tuaU9bWzL6I.html
@damonknight2494
@damonknight2494 10 месяцев назад
can the next challenge be making vehicles with the engines and have a race
@naniwara8673
@naniwara8673 10 месяцев назад
i am a little curious, is there a way for us to download your mods in the workshop and all? i don't even have SM i am just asking for if i ever get it, i don't think an I3 runs it though.
@thecaptainnoodles
@thecaptainnoodles 10 месяцев назад
kan maybe you need someone to cut down your ego and do better than you lmao.
@YupGod
@YupGod 10 месяцев назад
Here is my tip for you: The sensors and logic gates all have a 0.025 second delay, so the faster your engine goes, the worse the timing gets. This means that you should advance the timing as the engine goes faster.
@drphillow285
@drphillow285 9 месяцев назад
You should try hook up your explosive engine on the dyno, maybe you'll be able to make a car using it after all this time
@iplayksplol9974
@iplayksplol9974 10 месяцев назад
man I cant wait for in 2 years when piston engines beat a level 5 gas engine
@Ben_Bingo
@Ben_Bingo 10 месяцев назад
There are designs that currently can actually
@Wheagg
@Wheagg 10 месяцев назад
​@@Ben_Bingo700+hp?
@_miobrot_603
@_miobrot_603 10 месяцев назад
Yeah there are some crazy engines out there. We already beat them by torque, but speed is trickier
@Wheagg
@Wheagg 10 месяцев назад
@@_miobrot_603 magnetmotors are the future, man. They've gotta be
@Ben_Bingo
@Ben_Bingo 9 месяцев назад
@@_miobrot_603 kein has an engine that can do both
@rojnx9
@rojnx9 10 месяцев назад
Please, please do a piston powered survival run. It would have lots of different vehicles with differently tuned engines for different roles of the vehicles; like a high torque slow speed for a crate carrier, or a really small high speed low torque to power your drills. It would make you create lots of unique, industrial and cool looking vehicles due to the new and really interesting constraints introduced. "Creativity doesn't just love constraints; it thrives under them." - someone smart, I can't remember who
@jakewynn
@jakewynn 9 месяцев назад
It would be cool if it was more than 2 fps
@lukethomson4355
@lukethomson4355 9 месяцев назад
love this idea, kan should definitely do it
@zacharykoplin6543
@zacharykoplin6543 10 месяцев назад
For one of those big 7-8 extension engines, you should look into the massive reciprocating steam engines of the old ocean liners (titanic style yk). They are feats of engineering and would be awesome to see in SM.
@Indy509
@Indy509 9 месяцев назад
I wonder if it would change the hp value of you changed the firing order? Might help with balance like if it was 1,4,2,3
@DarknessVR619
@DarknessVR619 10 месяцев назад
Maybe you and Kosmo could do a Hill Climb challenge with piston engines?
@samik_456
@samik_456 9 месяцев назад
i think the piston engines are a bit too big to fit in something like a car
@FancyDucko
@FancyDucko 9 месяцев назад
@@samik_456 oh they definitely fit...
@samik_456
@samik_456 9 месяцев назад
@@FancyDucko it would probably only fit in like a huge car
@FancyDucko
@FancyDucko 9 месяцев назад
@@samik_456 no not really... I personally have made one, and they fit just fine
@samik_456
@samik_456 9 месяцев назад
@@FancyDucko can you show it on your channel
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi 10 месяцев назад
This feels like noob vs pro has been revived in spirit! I love it.
@Game_Blox9999
@Game_Blox9999 10 месяцев назад
I just love how kAN takes toilet humor to the next level and involves actual toilets.
@naniwara8673
@naniwara8673 10 месяцев назад
Nice pfp.
@froschmitsose
@froschmitsose 9 месяцев назад
Toilets ate the best item in scrap mechanic
@Game_Blox9999
@Game_Blox9999 9 месяцев назад
@@naniwara8673 Why thank you, right back at you.
@beaconblaster33
@beaconblaster33 9 месяцев назад
​@@naniwara8673boat
@andreamarchetti1010
@andreamarchetti1010 9 месяцев назад
Hey kan, i was thinking if changes the initial rotation of the pistons would make a difference on the dyno. Like now you have a sequence of 1-2-3-4 when the piston goes down, maybe try 1-3-2-4 or others configurations. Or you can even try to put less angle on each piston like 60 degrees instead of 90, but I think it's a little more complicated.
@GremlinSciences
@GremlinSciences 9 месяцев назад
Putting less angle between pistons helps but requires a matching number of pistons, so he couldn't use that for this challenge. You cannot make a 4-piston engine with just 60° offset, you'd have little to no power for 1/3 of each rotation unless you use a multiple of 6 pistons. You want to always keep the offset as 360/c with c being the number of crankshaft cams (which should match the number of pistons unless you're getting fancy with multiple pistons on each cam) Changing the activation/firing order of the pistons can squeeze a tiny bit more performance out of the engine, but it's mostly done to reduce vibration and wear. If you're referring to the starting position of the cams (ie, you mean he should have made the crankshaft start as an _x_ instead of a +), that really only effects the starting torque. It would let the engine start under a larger load, but it wouldn't increase the actual power or speed of the engine.
@Symbols_Cipher
@Symbols_Cipher 10 месяцев назад
I would like to see you make a vehicle for both your engines.
@zuky6404
@zuky6404 9 месяцев назад
Please keep doing this series with the dyno it's amazing. So many new ideas with this dyno its insane
@FishermanKyle
@FishermanKyle 9 месяцев назад
should revisit the explosive engines. you could use the tnt now for smaller cylinders, and theres better logic blocks now you could take advantage of. want to see it hooked up to the dyno.
@jakeblohm3133
@jakeblohm3133 10 месяцев назад
Try with not welding them on the ground, I did some testing and they worked better and more consistent.
@XWorstYT
@XWorstYT 9 месяцев назад
Love the vids I have been watching your channel for years. Loved watching the streams.
@phoenixdonner8553
@phoenixdonner8553 10 месяцев назад
I think he built the locks for the wrong direction but i guess it didn’t matter in the end.
@pweedos8482
@pweedos8482 10 месяцев назад
Im sure he did too. they need to lock from back (encoder) to front (output shaft) and he did the opposite
@colb.e
@colb.e 9 месяцев назад
I was thinking the same thing, I’m glad someone else noticed, proves I’m not crazy lol
@whoknows8864
@whoknows8864 9 месяцев назад
I think the locks are the right way if you are accounting for a heavy load on the output shaft.
@davidgreen3549
@davidgreen3549 10 месяцев назад
Love this video 👍🏽
@termisher5676
@termisher5676 10 месяцев назад
How about adding multiple piston engines to single gear shaft and powering the torque meter?
@Wheagg
@Wheagg 10 месяцев назад
In my experience, each piston pushes at a certain pretty exact point so they end up fighting each other on specific rotations
@termisher5676
@termisher5676 9 месяцев назад
@@Wheagg you could easly synchronize them
@massimoleandro4349
@massimoleandro4349 10 месяцев назад
Kan I think it would be pretty interesting when you try to build a fully mechanical car
@yuvrajbanerjee8578
@yuvrajbanerjee8578 9 месяцев назад
I'd love it if it was a series where he tackles 1 part per video. That would really let him make a car as accurately as possible.
@wynexdra3082
@wynexdra3082 10 месяцев назад
Are your torque locks in the wrong orientation? I noticed that your engine rotates one way at 13:17 and during all the dyno tests but the opposite direction at 21:37 (end of the video). By 'torque locks' i mean the linkages the prevent slippage along the shaft. See 7:33 where kAN builds them. At 21:37, it appears that the engine is rotating in the way that engages the torque locks. Whereas, at 13:17, the torque locks are disengaged and effectively useless. Same for during the dyno tests. You can even see a torque lock completely separated at 18:49 during one of the tests. (Please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.)
@theredstormer8078
@theredstormer8078 10 месяцев назад
It's been shown in previous videos that balancing does make a difference. Why not make the crank look more like those in real engines? What you have is sort of a weird unbalanced crossplane crank.
@ig-rd5923
@ig-rd5923 10 месяцев назад
If you are talking about the unstable inline 4 Kan made, the problem had nothing to do with weight, it was simply that piston nr1 was blocking the view of sensor nr4 for a split second.
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 9 месяцев назад
0:14 except the centrifugal forces would be pushing it BACK IN!
@spaghettiwaffles
@spaghettiwaffles 9 месяцев назад
even though Kan's engine had less rpm I'm sure that could be fixed with a gear ratio it certainly has the torque to handle a high gear ratio
@1mariomaniac
@1mariomaniac 9 месяцев назад
Congratulations, your I4 engine officially produces more horsepower than a 1976 Ford Fiesta L 😆 Seriously though, great video, very fun to watch you and Kosmo build stuff!
@justclover6123
@justclover6123 9 месяцев назад
You absolutely teased us all mentioning the piston engine challenge pack pt2
@wm3456
@wm3456 9 месяцев назад
I wish we could join you in some of these challenges, like this one.
@tynumo7142
@tynumo7142 8 месяцев назад
18:49 the locks were backwards for the direction of rotation, and the peak power was the power of one piston
@SSZaris
@SSZaris 9 месяцев назад
You guys might enjoy Automation and BeamNG. The ability to make your own engine and vehicles and then drive them around is pretty cool. Great video :)
@hunterfields2106
@hunterfields2106 9 месяцев назад
What if you had a variable crankshaft with pistons instead of pipe?
@joshjones3733
@joshjones3733 9 месяцев назад
That’s what I was thinking. You could vary the cam length by replacing the straight pipes woth pistons
@ScareGaming1
@ScareGaming1 9 месяцев назад
Kan you and kosmo should build a car or truck of your choice and put the piston engine In it and race them i think this would be really cool to watch
@animalmango6499
@animalmango6499 9 месяцев назад
19:19 reminds me of the time kan snapped an axle on his car trying to impress a girl.
@upsidedownairline9388
@upsidedownairline9388 9 месяцев назад
The reason gas engines in SM produce over 7k Nm of torque is because those torque figures aren't unusual for torque at the wheels on real cars. It's just geared down a ton. Dealers usually quote the torque at the engine (before the gearbox) because it directly correlates to the engine's power output.
@kittenkommentries5796
@kittenkommentries5796 9 месяцев назад
2:26 I dunno if it’s just me, but this is the first time I’ve seen him paint his bearing in a long time. Could just be me, I’ve been watching his scrap mechanic in high school, kinda stopped during college.
@he-who
@he-who 9 месяцев назад
Extending the crank wouldn’t increase torque at all. The crank is the shaft you connect to the dyno (output shaft). What you extended was the connecting rods, this would realistically give you more torque
@LunaIsOnYoutube
@LunaIsOnYoutube 9 месяцев назад
Maybe, you guys should do a "Piston engine only" race or "Car recreation challange" where you have to build a car and it has to be powered by the original type of engine it had in real life!
@von...
@von... 9 месяцев назад
inline 4 engines are almost always never all offset by 90 degrees from eachother, rather pistons 1&4 are on the same stroke & are 180 degrees from 2&3. Flat Plane Crankshaft would be a good term for you to google to come up with some interesting ideas on where to take the content from here (btw, if you dont do this - then I am 100% going to start making some fire Scrap Mechanic videos that are gonna slap on the YT algorithm lol)
@Wheagg
@Wheagg 10 месяцев назад
I'm personally more of a fan of increasing STROKE rather than CRANK length. Gives you the leverage without the RPM penalty. The locking mechanism was real clever, though. I'm gonna have to experiment with that one
@theannihilator665
@theannihilator665 10 месяцев назад
how tf do you increase stroke without increasing crank length? they have a direct relationship
@Wheagg
@Wheagg 10 месяцев назад
@@theannihilator665 keep the crank like on a minimum-length motor, just put the rail that the piston sits on to rotate further back and have a rod before the piston
@theannihilator665
@theannihilator665 10 месяцев назад
@@Wheagg no offense bro, but I barely even understood what you're trying to say, you mean having the piston further from the center of the crankshaft correct?
@Wheagg
@Wheagg 10 месяцев назад
@@theannihilator665 not your fault cause it's difficult to explain but basically you put more distance between the piston and the bearing above the crank. Now the crank is the same, but the piston is pushing at less of an angle, so you lose less of that torque from the piston pushing to the side
@theannihilator665
@theannihilator665 10 месяцев назад
@@Wheagg ah i follow now
@kylesteimle1714
@kylesteimle1714 9 месяцев назад
kAN and Kosmo having a digital truck pull over here
@10llansford
@10llansford 9 месяцев назад
Kan literally a 4 cyl long 2 stroke diesel, "its like a diesel"
@joshjones1628
@joshjones1628 9 месяцев назад
Kinda curious with the magnet mod if you could test a solenoid engine, where the magnets pull the “Piston” up on the downstroke, and see the difference on your magnet motor
@jakubmuron9030
@jakubmuron9030 9 месяцев назад
I don't know if the locking system vibrations actually has any effect on the performance, also since you've decided to make it crossplane rather than flatplane, you introduced so much more vibration that the locking system balance probably doesn't really matter either way. It should be possible to build the crankshaft in one piece though since you're working with 90° angles. With a V you'd need the locking system though unless you're planning to build a 90° V.
@Maccaroney
@Maccaroney 9 месяцев назад
Really cool! Needs a proper firing order of 1324.
@gogofuntime_yt
@gogofuntime_yt 10 месяцев назад
It would be awesome if you could upload this to the workshop, I'd love to mess with it.
@Ty420
@Ty420 9 месяцев назад
I love these Who Can Make The Most Powerful videos
@EmileMenard
@EmileMenard 9 месяцев назад
just realised you've made a engine that would be like a diesel engine irl: long stroke, crazy torque, and good hp.
@True_NOON
@True_NOON 9 месяцев назад
Maybe there could be a Helicopter build battle next?
@Baer1990
@Baer1990 9 месяцев назад
the torsion bars are smart
@lostsoul192d5
@lostsoul192d5 9 месяцев назад
I would love to see them engine dynoed and then put onto a test chassic or custom built chassis (doesnt really matter) and then race them. Also a way to look at the drivetrain loss with a hub dyno on a vehicle.
@aliciashepherd1805
@aliciashepherd1805 9 месяцев назад
hp battles in SM is just awesome
@gatorage850
@gatorage850 9 месяцев назад
funny Kan built an inline with a cross-plane crank and Kosmo built a V-engine with a flat plane. I would think it would work better the other way around... IRL flat-plane usually make more power for their less rotating mass.
@keirmalnack8580
@keirmalnack8580 9 месяцев назад
Wounder if you could try a real i-4 firing order?
@TheBananaMan4321
@TheBananaMan4321 10 месяцев назад
The equation for horsepower i think is torque multiplied by rpm divided by a fixed number (I don't remember what it is and it depends on the unit of torque)
@JK-ph8pv
@JK-ph8pv 9 месяцев назад
What about explosion engine with gearing?
@OhMahGurd
@OhMahGurd 9 месяцев назад
Could you maybe go back to the combustion engine you did with the explosives and use hidden magnets now? Haven't tested durability of the magnet block myself yet 🤷‍♂️
@dinosaursrule2276
@dinosaursrule2276 9 месяцев назад
Adding a trammel gear (I prob spelt that wrong, you know the thing) to gear up that slower engine should give a higher horsepower *and* be more stable than a faster engine would be.
@Killadragon-rt1bq
@Killadragon-rt1bq 9 месяцев назад
yall should do this again but on automation
@kanebarrett9810
@kanebarrett9810 9 месяцев назад
how do any of the pistons add to the power if they just have a bearing in the shaft in front of it
@rycka5624
@rycka5624 9 месяцев назад
is it possible to do that pistons not only extend but retract too that would make more torque
@itchytrack
@itchytrack 9 месяцев назад
he says assisted toilet pooping, yet the way the spinning is applying forces would make the poop go back to where it came
@user-ow1pc9db4d
@user-ow1pc9db4d 9 месяцев назад
0:36 Anyone else noticed the fact that when Kan said it’s really simple Kosmo’s character’s eyes looked really bored
@rezadwikyprayogo
@rezadwikyprayogo 10 месяцев назад
color mode piston add 1 tick delay to response, u better just delete the un used block in the decoder
@markuskallio1844
@markuskallio1844 9 месяцев назад
You should do a battlebots episode with piston engines
@remusvolkov4255
@remusvolkov4255 9 месяцев назад
It might struggle a little on the lag department but yall should do magnet engines next
@crimzonplays1134
@crimzonplays1134 9 месяцев назад
The only thing I can't make is a Differential that actually gives my cars Equal power on the powered wheels. It's always the side that has the gear which the driveshaft acts upon that gets slightly more.
@god5250
@god5250 9 месяцев назад
You should do a scrap mechanic survival mode with only piston engines
@Cloud_Shire_82
@Cloud_Shire_82 10 месяцев назад
hp=speed torque=strength torque comes from the power of the piston acting on the crank while horse power comes from speed of the engine and how fast it can roatate in a giving amount of time from idle to full throttle and rev limite
@ig-rd5923
@ig-rd5923 10 месяцев назад
Not entireley accurate. Torque is strength, rpm is speed, hp is just a product of those two factors(how much torque it can produce at a speed). For example, 100rpm 200NM will be the exact same hp as 200rpm 100NM. However, in real life, more hp usually means more speed because torque and rpm can sorta float around and change in a gearbox.
@Friendly_Neighborhood_Dozer
@Friendly_Neighborhood_Dozer 9 месяцев назад
22:03 probably 2000, since that’s the power of a controller
@MarkoDash
@MarkoDash 9 месяцев назад
basically you've made a tractor engine, huge displacement inline 3 or 4 with low rpm but tons of torque.
@MannDesBootes
@MannDesBootes 9 месяцев назад
You casually built a better engine than my irl cars engine in scrap mechnic
@snaggygroot3701
@snaggygroot3701 9 месяцев назад
Stormeorks also has steam engines now
@SMILYTHESMILEY
@SMILYTHESMILEY 10 месяцев назад
i like this! like noob vs pro but without the noob
@Canaman1a
@Canaman1a 9 месяцев назад
I’d like to see a tractor pull competition, please.
@nedcook4601
@nedcook4601 9 месяцев назад
Video idea piston radial engine for a plane or something
@PotatoesAssistant
@PotatoesAssistant 9 месяцев назад
You need to try an inline 5 engine because of the more overlapping power strokes
@TheSpookiestSkeleton
@TheSpookiestSkeleton 9 месяцев назад
do you think you could make a gas turbine engine? Probably not since it's a turbine. But it'd be cool because that's what they use on the M1 Abrams
@Pystro
@Pystro 9 месяцев назад
Your axle locks were ineffective for most of the video. You would have needed to spin the engine in the other direction for them to do anything. (Or connect the load to the other end of the shaft.) You can see that at 20:12, the first and second cranks are pulled to be parallel. But then you swapped the rotation of your engine at 22:00, that's why the torque locks worked when you explained them.
@svenwielenga7731
@svenwielenga7731 9 месяцев назад
The pipes against the bearing slip are a great idea but the wrong way around, right?
@mrcanisterr
@mrcanisterr 9 месяцев назад
With this power you'll start moving the map not the vehicle you put it in 😂
@186scott
@186scott 9 месяцев назад
I wonder if the torque with the piston engines on here would be different if you had it so it was doing the same sequence as an actual real engine so with 4 pistons you would have it goes 1342
@joshuapham4490
@joshuapham4490 9 месяцев назад
I think the problem is that piston engines are close to a 2-stroke in function then a 4-stroke which means you would need a different timing order
@azbdaniel34
@azbdaniel34 9 месяцев назад
Hey do you have a list of Mods you use for this game? If so can you share what you list is?
@engineermechanic5051
@engineermechanic5051 9 месяцев назад
wil you please just go do another one of the pisten powered challenges?
@Khelemvor
@Khelemvor 10 месяцев назад
Wouldn't the forces on that toilet just fling the poo back up at you? Might need to redesign the piston powered pooper before you bring it to market.
@Rocketenginetoaster
@Rocketenginetoaster 10 месяцев назад
Piston engine race 2.0 :0
@kornaros96
@kornaros96 10 месяцев назад
Kan's engine outputs the same amount of torque, with a severelly souped up Scania DC16 V8 turbodiesel...
@vincentpanicucci9118
@vincentpanicucci9118 9 месяцев назад
What you where calling the crank was the piston rod the crank is what connects the rotation of the the piston to the transmission the rods are what connect the piston head to the crank the more you know
@KiriyamaYN
@KiriyamaYN 10 месяцев назад
nice vid man!
@chazdubh3079
@chazdubh3079 8 месяцев назад
I recently found that you can make a spud powered engine
@Supervix8
@Supervix8 9 месяцев назад
this is just more complicated trailmakers
@irgiefarras2159
@irgiefarras2159 10 месяцев назад
Now install that to a truck and compete who can pull the heaviest load
@divyadharshini69
@divyadharshini69 9 месяцев назад
Derail valley please
@divyadharshini69
@divyadharshini69 9 месяцев назад
Please
@20ozRedbull
@20ozRedbull 9 месяцев назад
Should have put them together and then ran dyno
@Tutel_Wrong-Ordnance
@Tutel_Wrong-Ordnance 9 месяцев назад
after i watched this vid i made a inline 4 piston engine that had a torque value of 6000, small and fast
@3wan279
@3wan279 9 месяцев назад
evolution? and try to make the ultimate hp engine with unlimited pistons
@mixer2.0
@mixer2.0 9 месяцев назад
@kaNGaming piston speed is piston strenght
@szymonh8772
@szymonh8772 9 месяцев назад
You should really check out besiege, it's far better for building engines with less wonky physics :)
@sacredknight8486
@sacredknight8486 9 месяцев назад
You know, a black painted engine, so you can locate oil leaks
@xugro
@xugro 8 месяцев назад
Why would they have different hp if they have the same amount of pistons?
@-spyler
@-spyler 9 месяцев назад
DO THIS WITH A PISTON ENGINE EXPERT PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@roplayer9933
@roplayer9933 9 месяцев назад
Rpm makes hp tour every means forse
@Ben_Bingo
@Ben_Bingo 10 месяцев назад
Btw, controllers actually have 4000Nm, not 2000Nm.
@1990Hazard1990
@1990Hazard1990 9 месяцев назад
Kan: "I can use the collision to lock the crankshaft with pipes." Also Kan: "Encoder wheel can directly rub against the sensors cause creations have no collisions with itself." 👍
@kyleknudsen2131
@kyleknudsen2131 9 месяцев назад
Highest hp/torque ive seen yet is 200hp 12000nm at 120rpm
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