Just a massive number of horrendous picks in this draft (and not Prince Fielder funny horrendous, simply "you were actually trying and failed miserably" horrendous).
Jolly picking fucking Billy Hamilton for the Reds and not Joe Morgan or Barry Larkin was incredibly painful. You can't steal bases if you never make it to first!
At least Honus Wagner played after 1898. Before then, you could get a stolen base if you went from first to third or second to home on a single, or two for going from first to home on a double. That’s why a lot of older teams have a bunch of pre-1898 players at or near the top of their all-time stolen bases list.
One "funny" choice that actually would have beaten a lot of your outfield picks, is Tony Gwynn. 319 SB, 1st all-time for the Padres. In fact, from 1993-1997, after his young speedster days were over, and he looked like we all remember him, he stole 59 bases at an 80% success rate! In that 5 year span, he stole more bases than 7 of your picks this draft.
The recency bias of not knowing that Lou Brock is 2nd all-time in steals, and that the vast majority of his career was with a single team, is insane. "Yeah, uuuuuuuh, lemme take Billy Hamilton." Christ.
I can understand the recency bias if you legit can't think of any as time goes on, but the 2nd pick? Like come on man, know some little history here and there 😂
At least Wagner's the #2 Pirate of all time for SBs and the all-time Stolen-Base leader at short-stop. Jason Kendall only stole 140 bags as a Pirate, which is the most of a catcher in the live ball era but isn't actually much of an advantage.
@@kevinhinkle7632 Funnily enough, they allowed Ripken at third, he should have asked to have Biggio as a catcher. That was his first position in the bigs, and his speed was why he got moved to 2nd base.
I don't know how the rules works, but it seems drafting Biggio as a catcher would give you a huge edge over taking him as a second baseman. Plus, it opens the door to take people like Eddie Collins or Joe Morgan at 2B.
Crazy that Henderson is almost the career stolen base leader for two different teams. Jeter ended up on top for the Yankees, besting Rickey's five-year total by a few dozen. Just shows what happens when a generational athlete meets a freakish period for a stat.
How do you let Shelfy get Rickey AND Lou Brock? I'm at the Chone Figgins pick, and this draft is already over. But I gotta stick around for the kooky answers.
If and when you do come back for more compiler team drafts, I think having a 5 starter, 2 reliever rotation with single season wins + saves would be fun. I also think Runs scored and RBI could be fun. Could also try drafting 'bad' teams. All Star pitchers with the most losses, All Star batters with the most strikeouts, etc.
For those curious, here is the best possible lineup I found since 1898 (player must have played 25% of games at the position with the team in question to qualify): C: CWS Ray Schalk (177) 1B: CHC Frank Chance (402) 2B: LAD Davey Lopes (418) SS: PIT Honus Wagner (639) 3B: MIL Paul Molitor (412) OF: STL Lou Brock (888) OF: DET Ty Cobb (869) OF: OAK Rickey Henderson (867) DH: MON (WSN) Tim Raines (635) Total: 5,307 stolen bases Best not to make the cut: PIT OF Max Carey (688) KCR OF Willie Wilson (612) KCA/OAK SS Bert Campaneris (566) STL OF Vince Coleman (549) WAS (MIN) OF Clyde Milan (495)
Fun fact. Vince Coleman was the last person to steal 100 bags in a season in 1987 with 109 swipes. But he stole 107 and 110 in the two season before that. 100 stolen bases in a season has only happen 8 times since integration.
I liked Lucas's idea of only doing names from the expansion era, once you allow the old guys there's not a whole lot of reason to pick players from recent history.
I decided to check for myself, and here's what I got C: King Kelly (ATL) - 238 1B: Frank Chance (CHC) - 402 2B: Bid McPhee (CIN) - 568 3B: Paul Molitor (MIL) - 412 SS: Honus Wagner (PIT) - 639 OF: Rickey Henderson (OAK) - 867 OF: Lou Brock (STL) - 888 OF: Ty Cobb (DET) - 869 DH: Tim Raines (WSN) - 635 If my math is right, this comes out to 5518 stolen bases.
I think an average (or obp) and an era (or fip) draft could work really well, just set an inning/game minimum (100 games for batters, 100 innings for pitchers) and whoever has the highest average or lowest era wins.
Without watching any of the video I think my first 3 are Rickey Henderson with the A's, Ty Cobb with the Tigers, and Lou Brock with the Cardinals. I'm not sure after that, though. In these all-time drafts it feels like you should just always take Willie Mays, Stan Musial, Ted Williams, and/or Carl Yastrzemski because of the one-team requirement. I'm guessing Willie had some steals but no idea about the rest of them.
Bo Jackson would've been my Royals pick. Trout with the Angels? I don't know if he was a runner, though. Ohtani, perhaps? A good draft would be "Most home runs in their home stadium". Any era, all time. Can we make that happen?
