Who has better centerpieces? 

Chat made the tierlist for me so don't bully over missing models. Mention yours here! There were some other things originally submitted for the tierlist, like the orc bike and sororitas floating platform, but they were too small and didn't feel like a "centerpiece" at all, so I removed them from the vid and final tiermaker image to avoid confusion. I put them places on the live version without too much care so don't become upset.

My wife and I play age of sigmar and 40k. She is super into aos and she told me that the reason she loves aos so much is because every army is different. Yeah 40k has elves and dwarves, but they're still space marines. They have power swords, plasma guns, ect. But aos you have demons and dinosaurs ect. It made me like aos alot more even before seeing this video.

I personally feel like Karamazov and the Baneblade are the epitome of an okay model being propped up by nostalgia and a gigantic heap of memes via Dawn of War and TTS.

The whimsy and fairy tale stuff is exactly what I love about some of these designs. To each their own.

I am very surprised that the Mortarchs (Neferata, Mannfred and Arkhan) did not make the list. Those flying abyssals of theirs are very menacing, each rider has their own slight variation, and they are still more or less flat at the top meaning the riders can pull enough attention to themselves. I personally think they are very striking. :)

I like the dreadknights. Totally agree that they're dumb on every level but seeing them makes me smile the same way hearing sloppity bilepiper does

Was referred to your channel by a fellow painter who said you showed one of my models. What a treat seeing my Necron Seraptek Heavy Construct in your video! Glad the sculpt I put time in made it up there in the tier list lol!

Ah, the Short version, thank you

The tanks of the humans looking old is kinda 40K's aesthetic, it kinda has that gothic/steampunk vibe. Just look at the landraider, it looks like a WW1 tank. (A lot of the modern (futuristic) technology got lost after some huge conflicts in the times before the story takes place).

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For the BloodThirster I like the version with the Double handed axe.

Would love to see your take on Saint Celestine and the Kill Rig models

40:57 Absolutely nailed it here. Lumineth is 80% the best model you've ever seen, with 20% QUESTIONABLE DESIGN CHOICES

11:00 "I don't think the price should factor in when we look at aesthetics... 430$? Ok, insulting."

Awesome vid :) the 40k forgeworld models are all 100% stinkers IMO. I feel like you may have missed some of the best 40k sculpts, like Riptides, Ghostkeels, Wraithknights, the Talos, the Hunta Rig, and IMO the faction custom terminators like Blight lord Termis and Scarab Occult Termis.

I really like what they did with Archaon. If they would have just put him on a horse he would barely stand out from chaos knights. I think the chaotic nature of the sculpt fits him and the huge mount is a nice way to increase his stature.

As a strictly 40k fan, sigmar has the better centre pieces overall hands down

As someone who plays both 40k & AoS (and is a dedicated necrons player in 40k), I feel like the Voiddragon is cooler than it got credit for here...but I audibly lol'd infront of people at work when you called the Monolith an X-Box One 😆. That's what I'm calling it forever now...

While scrolling down Adepta Sororitas, commenting on tanks, you missed the Exorcist: The on non-stupid little tank in 40k! (And actually a bit of a centerpiece)

The Baneblade is exciting because it’s a very big tank! 40K doesn’t really have that sci fi tech (at least the humans).. they still have guns for example..

If you think the umbrella robot shoulders are bad.... imagine viewing it from above. Which you always would be. Single handedly stopped me from buying

The Archaon on horse model was so good. It's a shame they retired it, because I would love to own one.

Based video as usual but the tier sounds made my tinnitus act up (

Hell yes just seeing the loonboss on mangler squigs always brings me joy

Oh man the phantom titan, I love that lanky freak.

The real answer is Smaug from the middle earth strategy battle game. I will not accept any other answers

The certified fair and balanced tier list, glad to see new videos HeyWoah

That's weird, HeyWhoa said the Soul Grinder looks like something from Doom II to explain why it is trash, instead of the reason why it belongs in S tier.

Ya know why didn’t they just make the DreadKnights a special version of the Grey Knight Dreadnought? Made unique for the chapter, enclose the whole thing and it’s golden.

man id love to be able to catch you live, really enjoyed the video so far and man she WAS 100% double cheeked up!

A lot of these are so dang good they are worth getting just to display so you can look at them every morning.

Imo the bloothirster with the whip in the running pose fixes all the issues with the base model

Terrorgheist is one of the greatest sculpts in GW history. You also forgot the Mortis Engine and Mortarchs .

In all these tier lists cows are never put in S, and I’m so glad you did.

Not to be bias, but as someone who played 40k and now is solely AoS (outside of skirmish territory) one of the many reasons I moved over was the models. Sure Mortarion and some others are epic, but even on the non-centerpiece level the models are on average great for AoS nowadays.

40k Ork aesthetic and Gotz aesthetic are the things I pole most in the hobby.

I guess this was pre-Angron, who has a banger of a model now. Also needs to include the Khorne Lord Of Skulls for that fine-line of awesome/stupid.

Really enjoyed this video. If I fully played the Imperial Guard, I would get modern-day tanks for my army since they look a hell of a lot better. The Israeli Merkava tank looks very sexy. The British Challenger tank is outright solid

This video is the best. So glad I subscribed oh so long ago, even though I never got into Age of Sigmar. I AM getting heavy into 40k, thanks to Mike lending me a 3D printer in 2020 (took awhile to print/paint/find friend to play with/print 2nd, army for friend to play with). Keep it up man. I'll have to show you some of my models next time you're in Chicago for a convention or something. I was laughing my butt off when you critique the ork models. I literally build ork mecha out of trash, paint them, and play them on the table.

Another banger! Thanks HeyWoah

What about the Hekaton Land Fortress? Kind of closest thing to a centerpiece for the Leagues of Votann. I like it but I can kinda understand why someone wouldn't. Would also kinda be fun to see a tier list for the 30k Primarchs (don't forget Horus Ascendant!), I don't think you're into 30k but some of those models look pretty cool and some are just sorta off.

And now i cant not see a bloodthirster on a swing

Am missing the mortis engine. Personally I think it looks quite awesome.

Man paint jobs can really make things look way better then the model does

I know he's legends but vorgaroth deserves an entry as a pretty good forgeworld model and a sick dragon. Just have to ignore the mashed potato rider he has

With you on the summary at the end. If I had to fight you on one thing I would say that the plastic Great Unclean One has too much negative space and looks too clean. It certainly doesn't look as disturbing as the FW resin one, which still holds up perfectly with his boily leathery skin.

krondys does have to anthro of a face.

My man woke up today and had a hit piece on orks😢 but in all serious great video. 👍

You sold me on starting a Gloomspite Army talking about their models and showcasing them in your faction focus video, and still I enjoy them and everything they are as a faction. Problem is I sunk so much money into a faction I love the style and playstyle of, but hate them on the tabletop for how outclassed they are by everything. I want to thank you for introducing me to them, but equally I now play the worst army in AOS at the moment meta wise lmao. I still haven't got my head around strategy for them.

good shit as always man

What’s with the dislike of birds? The Changer of Ways is not pleased

Regarding tzeentch aesthetic, idk how you take the idea of "bird knowledge demon" and skip past the motif of Moloch the creepy all knowing owl to go with blue raspberry turkey vulture ?

The thing that people like about the Imperial Guard, I think, is that they are (relatively) normal human beings in a universe full of alien horrors and genetically modified giants in power armor. Their aesthetic of a futurized mix of WW1, WW2, Vietnam (the Catachans), and current military works with their appeal as the underdog faction who pulls out a few victories with grit, sacrifice, and heavy artillery bombardments. It's not that Guard players would rather be playing Bolt-Action. It's that Guard players want their Bolt-Action troops to go up against the terrors of the dark distant future and win every once in a long while. Also... they stopped putting multiple turrets on tanks after WW1 because it actually doesn't work well (with current technology), but it looks awesome and so we get to do it in our science fantasy game. Anyway, aesthetics are pretty subjective. I'm happy to have HeyWoah riff on my army because he's funny and it's a frickin game.

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What happened to the Mutalith Vortex Beast?

Today i learned there is a named character alternative build for a Keeper of Secrets. Huuuuh?

Mortarion does it for me, holyyyy what a model

surprised dankhold troggoth wasn't on this

I have to agree with some of these though, Morathi is at this very moment tempting me into playing Daughters of Khaine Lol, some of these are not centerpiece models

You should rate the lords and big single entitles from the total war games.

straight up anti nurgle bias here

As someone who doesn't collect minis can someone explain the difference between plastic and resin as i have seen people moan about resin a lot but i dont know why

As a 40k ork player starting to get into AoS, i absolutely love that Ghaz and mangler made the top cut, and while i disagree on 40k orks all looking bad, i understand it really is its own niche. Printer go brrr while gloomspites get spit out, just got file for Loonboss and excited to paint it

these are all pretty solid placements, hats off to you

Hey its my website!

Big, huge even

AOS all day any day it doesnt take 5 hours to play... you dont need 10 books of reference material you have actions on your opponents turn and theres not a lot of feel bads expet being double turned by Giants

The Phantom is one of my favorites but it’s okay still love you tho 🥲

Anyone know where the soundbites are from?

I haven’t been in the hobby for long so I could be completely off the mark, but to me it seems like 40k models are so hit or miss cause of the aging. AoS: 2015-present. 40k: 1987-present. A lot more room to age badly, while at least by the time AoS came out GW SHOULD know how to make a decent model. Surprisingly I like the old ork look, just because of how utterly stinky they are, it’s hilarious. Reeks of the 90s lmao. I should note that I prefer 40k in general, not that I don’t enjoy AoS, but objectively AoS has way more consistent quality, while of course 40k is either S or F tier.

I'm a 40k guy but AoS has the better models all round.

How dare you rate the asstreus higher than the bandeblade

Tip for using phoneline jokes, always use 555!

i disagree with most of your opinions (i like rats, birds and nurgle lol) but i liked the video bc i like this discussion

awesome!

Magnus still gets no love.

My takeaway from this is that is HeyWoah were to play 40k he would pick necrons

I thought you were going to be biased towards the AoS centerpieces because that's what your channel is about - but no, I agree with pretty much everything! ...Weird how 40k has such a weak centerpiece game in comparison, despite being the more popular game. Games Workshop really showed put in a lot of love and effort for the AoS models.

Putting Lord of Change in meh tier. In bird culture that is considered a dick move

AOS does.

Would it help to know that a lot of the designs aren’t ripoffs of StarCraft and it’s the other way around. Was supposed to be a warhammer game but the company pulled out at that last minute and they had to slightly alter everything

Can't say the results for "most good looking centerpieces" is especially surprising. As a 40k player, the army centerpieces are either fantastic or look like deep fried ass.

"On black dragon" makes me sad. European dragons CAN look good, just look at fatalis! The guy is the most "just a dragon" I've ever seen and still rocks! 6:36 facts 1 8:00 facts 2 9:03 facts 3 15:35 cake 41:39 ghaz 56:57 hehe

I've never seen a tier-list more offensive.

I don’t like the latest keeper of secrets either. I like the original one from 1988 or so.. I found that more interesting and demonic. Just a demon monster, different from the Khorne one.

Me when HeyWoah trashes Imperial Guard and correctly points out that T'au stuff looks cooler than knights: Finally someone had the courage to come out and say it, I knew he was a man of culture. Me when HeyWoah trashes 40k ork aesthetics, Tzeentch birds, and the badass saurus warrior on the back of the carnosaur: It's pistols at dawn, then. To be honest, as much as I hate IG stuff for just being boring WW2 aesthetic in space, the Baneblade gets points for being a comically oversized tank, so it manages to still fit in the 40k universe. Like it was in the Manta picture you pulled up, and considering the Manta is basically the size of the battlefield, it manages to still look pretty huge. So, you know, I don't like tanks, but I give it a B tier rating. Also you were kinder to Magnus than I would have been. Which is funny because Thousand Sons are my favorite army aesthetically. All except for Magnus, god damnit he looks stupid.

how man one man be so wrong about everything

I had no idea HeyWoah was a ATP enjoyer, love to see it you stoner. lol

Your objective truths are correct again. Well done. Especially the S-Cows (Spirits of the mountain), that got their way into S after the sleepover, i guess.

Thank you, very based

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You bring up a very strong point: Americans in general feel nothing about war. Nothing at all. The GWOT and the Afghanistan withdrawal proved it.

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I feel like an absolute degenerate for pointing this out: Is this this the "S tier sound" the fkin melody moan? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RZdwgvbL1HQ.html

The new giant tier? Meh?

Dreadknights look cool.

lol Its funny hearing you hate on the Ork aesthetic (its fine everyone has different tastes) because no offence but you look and sound like many a die hard ork fan I have met over the years.

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The newer Ork sculpts are a lot better for leaning more into the mad Max cool guy aesthetic, but the older stuff just looks like silly literal garbage. The 90s nostalgia is the only reason I think the previous ones have fans, I mean the old boyz are unironically popping their white girl asses out lol.