Who is Taylor Swift's New Boyfriend - Drama Powerpoint 

zack just repackaged same old misogynistic argument that taylor satirized in blank space literally in 2014 💀

I do not think Zach is a misogynist but him just aggressively shutting down any criticism of his opinion is exactly why misogyny is so widespread. Really bad way to handle that bro.

i was actually okay with zach thinking taylor only writes about her exes (which isn't true btw) but to claim she ruins these mens' life is so extreme. who's life has she ruined? joe jonas is still selling out stadiums with his brothers, john mayer is on a massive tour, jake gyllenhall is one of the most respected actors even now, calvin harris is still making music and has been successful, harry styles is literally on top of the world, taylor lautner is doing so well in his life, tom hiddleston is successful as an actor and well respected, joe alwyn is doing great for himself in his career. who's life has she ruined by just writing songs? and before anyone says anything about the number of guys she's dated then let me tell you, she's 33 and it's completely normal to date around until you find someone you want to settle with. so yes, zac's comment was misogynistic.

“It can be a publicity stunt and they can also have crushes on eachother” I love her

the claim that “she’s gonna write a song” has always been so weird to me like … yes that is her job. no one ever says that about any other artist who writes songs about relationships?? like i love h3 but that comment is in fact misogynistic because of what it’s implying? that taylor is vindictive in her writing when she’s literally just writing about her relationship like ANYONE else

he kept digging his grave he should have shut up lol men love to say they don't hate her or are not hating on her while they spew disrespectful anti women speaking their mind stereotypes I'm sure he means no harm but u have to be capable of seeing that saying a women is gonna ruin a mans life for speaking about something that man did to her is really weird and ur not making a ground breaking point ur repeating something untrue that people have been saying for years as ethan said we are tired and so is she if ur not gonna be respectful be quiet

Zach’s comment makes sense because he’s a Mayer fan😂😂

1. i refuse to believe zachs favorite musical artist, hell his top 20 favorite artists, don’t write songs about their exes. 2. for a podcast that (as of lately) has mainly focused on criticizing people, i find it odd that zach refuses to take any sort of criticism.

I think Zach constantly bullies Olivia for enjoying inherently “girly” things, and it’s never addressed. He mocks her and makes demeaning comments about things she will be in the middle of talking about. I’m not even referring to Taylor Swift at all; just in general. It’s very annoying to watch.

literally whos life and career has she ruined? her other celebrity exes are doing just fine yawwwnnnnnnnnnn

i think zach needs to listen to the lyrics in blank space

Zacks saying a lot for a person that is in the music industry himself. Seems very ignorant to say something like that when you are apart of it yourself.

not saying zach is misogynistic or that the point was misogynistic (although in my opinion it was) but i do think that when men write songs about women and their experiences in relationships they are not scrutinized to the same extent as she has been and also he is a grown man who knows what he is signing up for! all of the people who have dated her have been aware of the fact that she is an autobiographical song writer and that comes with good and bad things, i would not say every man she has dated has been ruined by dating her. especially joe, he didn’t do anything objectively horrible and a lot of the fandom still loves him! if a man talks shit, she owes him nothing 🙌🏻 i also don’t know if ethan should have an opinion on whether something is misogynistic, it’d be nice if olivia had a say on issues like that but also i can imagine that would be uncomfortable for her as the only woman

at first i was okay with Zack's "prediction"..than when Olivia said that situation can end nice and he aggressively denied the possibility. from that point on, it was impossible to accept his opinion as adequate. you could tell he was just angry

Zach is taking this very personally.... Like actually thinking Taylor ruined any of her exes lives? Name one of them that has lost everything and is struggling currently because they broke her heart. I wonder if he knows why Women say" if a man doesn't like Taylor Swift he's a red flag" , like my guy this is text book misogyny right here, it's a red flag for a reason.

As a swifty who has deleted tiktok I NEEDED Olivia’s PowerPoint ft Dan

I’m so tired of this AGE OLD argument of Taylor “ruining peoples careers”. It’s been told over and over by MISOGYNISTIC men that can’t handle and/or can’t take accountability for other mens POOR ACTIONS. Like trust me we all know that fandoms can take things too far at times, but honestly that has little to do with what we are actually talking about. The main point is about hating women for calling out mens poor actions. I hope Zach rethinks these comments and how THEY DO contribute to sexist conversations about women. DO BETTER!!!

Zach needs to take a step back and look at why he cares so much if she writes love or break up songs. That's definitely not the only thing she writes about but even if it was why be angry about it? Why care? Why does it upset you that she's so successful writing about her life? We all grew up in the same society that hammers these prejudices down our throats and I know Zsch is an ally so part of being an ally is realizing you did have a misogynistic take on something. This is not me saying Zach is a misogynist, this is me saying this comment he made was misogynistic. It is bound to happen, unlearning prejudice is a life-long process honestly so don't deny slipping up, just accept that's where its coming from and move forward with fresh outlook on the situation. She has never "ruined" anyone's career. Jake is still getting leads in movies, John Mayer is still a famous musician, Calvin Harris is fine, Harry Styles is absolutely thriving, she wrote a song apologizing to Lautner. She's not a witch trying to curse the men she dates, she just writes about her life and a lot of women resonate with being treated poorly by men who are supposed to love them. So yeah it was a bad take and I hope he genuinely reflects on that and finds the root of the bitter energy that caused that comment. As a musician I would think he had more professional respect for her than just "they'll break up and she'll write a song, this always happens"

Zach was being sexist and he’s so sensitive 😭😭😭 she hasn’t even cancelled her exes other than John mayor who’s hurt a more than j her… and ofc zach loves John mayor ..

Why is it whenever people have valid criticism of you and your crew, it's "pipe down." When half of y'alls content is criticising other people?? Zach was being misogynistic and doubling down and whining about it was not a good look.

Lol makes an ignorant comment about an ignorant stereotype and then gets offended when called out. God forbid women have feelings. Like other musicians don’t write about their experiences in life or love…? A bit ridiculous

zachary needs to chill. He ain’t misogynistic but he certainly obviously doesn’t think very highly of Taylor Swift. It’s like we’re back in 2015 where everyone just thinks of taylor as a boy obsessed song writer which is not the case. Honestly Zach needs to learn to speak his opinion more respectfully.

Olivia put so much work in her powerpoint just to be dismissed by zach she did better then i did i would've ended up on the 5 am news

zach thinks you have to be screaming obscene and degrading things to be misogynistic but it’s so much more nuanced and baked into everyday life and sooo many interaction that women have. so yeah, he definitely can be misogynistic and he was really giving that vibe.

I can’t stand Zach anymore. His aggressive opinions. He needs to learn to be a bit more humble. I tend to skip over anything he says at the point.

The H3 crew is my favorite but their lack of football knowledge almost killed me 😂. Great segment as always tho!!!

The “she’s going to write a song about him and ruin his career” troupe is so tired and yes, misogynistic… when has that actually happened? Maybe John Mayer? Who dated her when he was 32 and she was 19… and still has a career? Or Harry styles? Who’s career has only gotten better and better since Taylor? Or Joe Alwyn? Who no one knew about before Taylor? Or oh how about Kanye west? Oh sorry I think I’m thinking about when he wrote a song about her calling her a bitch and taking credit for her career… When someone calls you misogynistic take a moment to reflect on why before getting defensive Her art is inspired by her experiences just like most artists. It’s beautiful and helps so many people get through tough times because it’s based off real experiences that are relatable no matter how famous she is This drives me CRAZY

I love them reading out deep cut Taylor Swift song names, then being like, ‘wait who won the superbowl’

Which Taylor Swift exes is ruined and homeless tho? what a weirdo lol

Thank u Ethan for not defending Zach. He needed to be called out 💛

By the way, Taylor swift does write about her exes but not always in a negative light, that’s just part of it when they actually treat her badly. Not all her exes are hated by the fandom for example Tom Hiddleston, Taylor Lautner and Harry Styles and even the ones that are hated have gone on to have a very successful career :) she’s not a vindictive evil witch who prays on their downfall

“there’s no shot he could see her from the field” “you just don’t know the power of love” DAN LMFAOOOOO

zacks "point" was just pure hate towards women why is it a women's fault if the world doesn't like him if they breakup? HE put himself out there publicly HE knows she writes songs about her relationships HE invited her smfh zack. men are accountable for their own actions. why think so negatively anyway?? they JUST got together. let them enjoy it. Poor girl can't have a new man without people like you hating her

i wanna think that it’s not misogyny but when i try analyze zach’s pov or thought process, the underlying tone is definitely misogyny… it is just such an old stance to take about Taylor and any man she dates. it IS misogynistic bc he’s implying that SHE is going to be the problem based on her history (which is not problematic at all). and implying she’s gonna ruin his life, as if she goes and talks crap about good people in her life through her music. im glad olivia said that if he doesn’t do shit worth writing poorly about him, she won’t. Zach might not be a misogynist but he for sure came off that way in this video.

26:15 Taylor Lautner had a great song. The good ones have good songs written after them. Most men have this mentality without realizing that those men who had songs written after is because they fucked up and treated her poorly

He may not be a misogynist but the comment/joke kinda was not gonna lie.

As a musician and fairly new Taylor Swift fan, the way men respond to Taylor’s songwriting is a fantastic misogyny litmus test. If a musician doesn’t like a woman writing songs about her life, I just gotta ask, why you threatened bro? You mad someone might take a shot at you? I firmly support her songwriting choices… it’s all nice and fine to date a musician and enjoy that attention by proxy, til you FAFU and you gotta deal with the songwriter

Its funny that taylor is so famous that people dont realize hes arguably the greatest tight end in nfl history lol

My older brother said he downgraded to Taylor swift because she doesn’t have a butt; he got that opinion from other men online. 💀 I laughed in his face and told him no phatty can outshine the 1 billion dollars she made on just this last tour alone. She’s one of the most successful artists of all time. Taylor swift is certainly not a downgrade from his ex; and comparing women in that way is gross. I can’t believe that a woman can be worth a billion dollars and still be reduced to her ass-ets.

“Said nothing negative about her” but insinuates that she’s gonna somehow ruin Travis’ career bc she’ll write a song about how HE treated HER badly.

AB pretending to be Zach's lawyer lol. 26:48 He already knew that wasn't gonna go well 😂

If Travis doesn't want a song written about him, don't fuck her over or just don't date a songwriter. Its literally her job. Taylor writes more than just break up songs, but because her biggest hits are about how men have wronged her, that's how the world views every single one of her potential relationships ending. Most artists write about their relationships but Taylor gets so much criticism for it, mostly by men. If she were a man and writing the songs she writes, she wouldnt get as much of the criticism. Don't say you don't have anything against Taylor, but then say something that indicates she's vindictive for no reason.

just want it to be known that one of my 45+ year old male coworkers is a red pill fallen fan and just started an argument w me about h3 and how he “used to be creative” and is now being a “dumb ass douche bag” since he started the pod. i offered to agree to disagree, which caused him to call me sensitive and then proceed to go talk shit to the other 50 year old men abt me, a 22 year old girl, continuing to call ME sensitive LMAOOOO the copium is strong today 😌😌

taylor swift seeing kelce’s “kiss marry kill” response: “I wouldn’t marry me either.”

zach obviously has some problems that he should sort out lmao

I don’t think Zach’s just mysocinistic I think he quite literally is just jealous that outside of h3 no one would come to his concerts- he needs to be humbled & reminded the only reason why he has fans coming is bc of the show- other than that no one really cares

shout out to all the men deeming what is misogynistic and getting so pissed cussing out the people who said it

The only place i'd listen to drama at. PS Ethan you lookin thin bro.

She’s an Eagles fan, she knows football 😂 Jason literally said that in one of the clips they showed

Travis is a fan favorite, not just a chiefs fan favorite, but an overall football fan favorite. Both him and Jason Kelce seem like very genuine people. Edit: Also Zach’s point on the chief’s dropping him over a breakup… never because another team would pick him up. He’s a top performer in his position.

zach needs to grow up that man is so immature. he just embarrassed himself by throwing a literal tantrum over being called out. and the disrespect he showed olivia was so gross. like Lana Del Rey said, “goddamn man child”.

Olivia!!!!! 💖💖💖 She forgot to mention why the chicken tenders were really important. In the height of her eating disorder days she mentioned in an interview “if calories didn’t count I would love to eat chicken tenders all the time” and that’s why so many of the swifties are excited about the prospect of her eating a chicken tender. It seems so dumb and insignificant, but it actually has a lot more behind it than just being a chicken tender lol.

Zach grossed me tf out this episode.

Honestly y'all fluffed this one. Taylor Swift has always been an eagles fan. So to not mention that the chiefs beat the eagles in the Superbowl where the kelce brothers played against each other is a HUUGE miss

This is not the first time Zach has been just outright misogynist, and I've said this before. He is constantly trying to get attention by being the devils advocate, he's very much a pick me and he always has been.

Zacks whole rant was unnecessary and then he got pissy like a toddler when he was called out 🙄🤦‍♀️

He didn’t have a point

As a diehard Chiefs fan, my mind is BLOWN at this. Also, Trav hosted SNL over the summer. Good sketches Side bar: travis is also seemingly a solid guy, not some Brolic a hole that you imagine plays football

Glee is the only reason Olivia knows what a kicker does

OLIVIAS POWERPOINTS ARE THE LIFE FORCE OF THIS PODCAST

Olivia better be getting paid well 😂

I do appreciate Ethan for his rebuttal to Zach, “well he better be careful then.”

Zach I usually don’t take these things too seriously but that was a low blow man

If you look at the apple logo on the back of ethans computer and unfocus your eyes the logo shrinks.

Who’s here May 2024 seeing Ethan say “SO HIGHSCHOOL”?!!!!

L zack take

12:09 It’s a Chiefs inside joke. It’s mimicking coach Andy Reid.

They use the line So High School and down bad in this episode and Taylor has those two songs on her new album.

Can anyone actually mention an ex of Taylor that is not doing okay now? Lol

Zach is so lame fr

Olivia I LOVE your PowerPoints, but this was missing information. You needed more information on how great Travis is as a player and a person. Also, Taylor IS a football fan. She has said on the record she’s an eagles fan and has met Andy Reid (former eagles coach and now Chiefs coach)

only time I’m glad I knew some football, not even for the game, but because since the concert in July, every NFL interview he does has been teasing him about Taylor, and he’s been super respectful despite being a meme. the banter is usually about teaching him “game” about how to actually catch her (since he’s a tight end, aka catching the ball is his main thing). that’s why the announcers were flabbergasted at her actually showing up, because no one thought he could pull it off 😭 but also funny part is that taylor’s favorite football team is the eagles, aka travis’s brother’s team, who is also a notable player; but also why he was teasing travis in their podcast clip.

Let’s not forget Zach lives John Mayer

26:16 I also could see this ending very badly. But I also have a running conspiracy theory that this is all for PR on his end (and the NFL's end), and on her end it's an effort to shift a bunch of conservative voters away from conservatism (see her recent effect on the number of registered voters after she told her fans to register - literally tens of thousands of voters registered overnight... I think she's realizing she's done the most she can with her existing fanbase, which was already pretty leftist, and now she's trying to expand that fanbase in a very clever way).

Bruno mars and Ed Sheeran also write about their exes I don’t understand why Taylor gets all the hate for it

"kiss, marry, snuff the light out of their face manually with your fists" 💁‍♀so fuckin' true tho 🙄😒

zach, wrong take buddy, let’s also not forget that at least 2 of 5 of your Top 5 Popular songs on Spotify seem to be about relationships🤔 (yes, you Zach Louis🤨). i’m not a swifty, so let’s not get scared that the fan base is coming for you, but wrong, and frankly yes, misogynistic take.

"Seemingly ranch" 😂 All American as hell, indeed

y’all should get a swiftie contributor bc as a major swiftie, every time you guys talk about her there are a lot of wrong facts and little nuances and references that you miss. and you guys ask each other questions and say incorrect answers but we could answer in like 2 seconds 😭 with peace & love ofc

Zach's Classification of Taylor ruining people's lives is shit. It's a repeated and dated stance that has no footing

i get what zach is saying though. i mean taylor swift is a singer and songwrites her own music so of course if something bad happens she’ll express it in her music. that’s perfectly okay though and all within her right. if he messes with her ofc the fans will go after him for hurting her the same way all of our friends would to anyone who hurts us! but at the end of the day, he’s a grown ass man and only he is responsible for his own actions and determining that. if it ends in good terms i’m sure taylor would address it to calm peoples speculations

The 1989 jacket set was renamed after he wore it. It's just great SEO and general marketing. Edit: I should have waited to comment but I'm not deleting lol

Taylor swift fans go so hard and I can’t even lie the ones I’ve encountered have been so welcoming and sweet. I rlly love the whole movement she spreads I’m not a Taylor fan but I luv her and how she seems to be a girls girl

Zack needs to stop being such a doofus. I don't even care about Taylor but Olivia is nothing but sweet and supportive. He doesn't have to genuinely care about the topics she discuss just don't be a dick about it. it's a silly little podcast at the end of the day just be silly with her it won't stain your cool guy persona I promise

I wonder if the jersey spike was because Halloween is coming up so ppl wanna be taylor and the football player lol

I live in Kansas City and arrowhead stadium is HUGE (over 76,000 seats). She sold it out two days in a row. Home girl had over 150k guests at her shows that weekend and 508k live in Kansas City, meaning nearly 30% of our population went to the Eras tour locally.

Idc what my ex did to me, I'd NEVER "worn" the new gf.... she about to figure that shit out all on her own 😂🏃🏻‍♀️

Olivia is especially slay in this episode pink suit queeeeeen ❤️❤️

I don’t like Zach. He comes across as having a lot of built up anger.

Are you guys going to talk about the Post Malone DV allegations?

Zach is wrong for this

zachary respectfully know your place 😘

Hey Zach, maybe keep a tighter grip on that misogyny, huh?

I love Olivia by the amount of times she says “100%” is insane!!!😊

“Make her kicker. Make Taylor kicker.” She must have felt Butker’s commencement speech coming. 😂

The way Ethan said “No not for you “ to Olivia had me laughing 😭🤣

Zach anger and reaction at being called a misogynist should not have made me laugh as hard as it did 💀 I really don’t care about the Taylor swift situation or if it was misogynistic but the reaction started me out of my cooking

14:20 to me that screams girlfriend status

If zach’s comments aren’t misogynistic then they’re at least really weird. Like i don’t understand getting so heated and passionate (literally interrupting and insulting the whole segment) over some drawn out brainless talking point that doesn’t add a single thing to the conversation. So worried about travis kelce as if we wasnt the one publicly bringing this upon himself. Cant say we’d see a man who holds women as equals acting like that. Weird.

I knew about H3 from an ex but he was honestly delusional and had a lot of wrong takes so since he loved this pod I didn’t figure I would. But I love the progression this podcast has taken and also that it probably annoys the shit out of my ex 😂😂😂