It's Santa's turn to be judged! Nick, Scott, Jesse, and Stephan sort through a cacophony of Kringles to find out who's naughty, who's nice, and who needs thrown in the trash with the wrapping paper and pine needles.
Aww, no DC Santa? I wanted to see you judging him based on knife fighting Lobo, canonically being Batmans stealth teacher, and delivering a lump of coal to Darkseid every year.
But how does he stack against the embodimwnt of chaos that is Marvel Santa, who is an omega level mutant, is marked as a top-level threat by all who know of his existence, and went mad with power the one time he wore the Infinity Gauntlet?
Let's face it; what Death does for his setting's version of the Little Match Girl INSTANTLY puts him in the running for greatest Santa of all time. "The Hogfather brings presents. There's no better present than a future."
Death literally stopped reaping souls for a whole day, leaving his whole duty behind, to let the world keep its sense of hope. That is so far above and beyond
It says something to Terry’s writing that he would get letters from terminally ill patients saying that they hoped if there is a Death, he’s like the one he wrote about.
20:46 Death while taking on the role of santa gave the best gift one could have, there was a little girl who died outside in the snow and he gave her more sand in her mortal hourglass all while his "elf" was telling him he was not aloud to do that but death responds with "the hogfather can...and what better gift is there then a future".
I've thought about this a lot since I first heard them do this. I don't know if anyone else has ever made an intense version of the song and it baffles me.
I'm going to say it: you got to check Phineas and Ferb's Santa. Not the one from the elevator gag, but from the Christmas special. This Claus was so touched by Phineas's gratitude towards him that he basically played 5 D chess with Danville! He literally orchestrated the entire episode days in advance to give EVERYONE what they wanted for Christmas and even secretly manipulated the events in order to help one of his older elves believe again. Seriously this man had such a big brain plays it was insane when you step back and think about it.
Because Santa sent him the plans. Doof spent the entire episode apathetic to Christmas and wanted to hate it. He built the inator on a whim since his "uncle" mailed it to him. But at the end, when he could genuinely say he hates Christmas, he tries to call his uncle only to fine the address the inator was sent from was the North pole. So yeah Santa set it up on purpose. Heck Santa was even the one to destroy it.
Death as the Hogfather knows exactly what it means to be Santa: "OH, THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING IN THE STOCKING THAT MAKES A NOISE," said Death. "OTHERWISE, WHAT IS 4:30 A.M. FOR?” Its a fantastic book and i highly recomed to to anyone who is considering reading it. Death as the Hogfather is also an arms dealer~ He gave a little girl a real sword when she asked for one~
You can't give her that! It's not safe! IT'S A SWORD. THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO BE SAFE. She's a child! IT'S EDUCATIONAL. What if she cuts herself? THAT WILL BE AN IMPORTANT LESSON.
"Dashing through the snowy sky. The patron saint of prostitutes, look it up, Old Saint Ni-" "Naughty!" "What the fu-"-Sir Jack Dapper from SAO Abridged
I was kinda hoping they’d include Santa from the Billy & Mandy Christmas special. Because 1.) He gets turned into a vampire, and 2.) He’s voiced by Gilbert freaking Gottfried!
Death is absolutely a king of Christmas. During his rounds at the Hogfather duty calls. He and Albert find the Little Matchstick Girl dead in the snow. Death instead refills her hourglass. Albert *worried*: You're not allowed to do that! Death: The Hogfather Can. The Hogfather Gives Presents. And What Better Present Than A Future.
Technically, the Miracle on 34th Street Santa's legitimacy is up in the air. While most of the movie does sort of depict Kris as just a kind old man wanting to embody the spirit of Christmas, there are a few moments in the movie where he legitimately seems to have more going one, the largest bit being at the very end where they find the exact house that Susan wanted within a close enough distance that it wouldn't be a bother and that it is for sale. And while this is initially hand waved away as coincidence, they also found Kris' cane there showing he may have had a hand in it. I'm just saying the movie ends on a nebulous conclusion on whether Kris was actually Santa, even as stated by the characters.
Is that the original or the 90s one? Cause the 90s one also seems to lean towards him actually being Santa, with stuff like being fluent in every language, including ASL, having an encyclopedic knowledge of all toys, where they can be bought, and the prices, and has a consistent, if insane, explanation for every Santa thing.
@@originalindigodingo Both do actually, although the more modern one is less subtle about it. In the original, instead of ASL he breaks out into dutch when a dutch girl who had just emigrated after being adopted is brought to see him. He also seems to have a near encyclopedic knowledge of toys, stores, and prices. The main difference being that when he references gifts or the like he keeps it subtle, reather than explicit. Such as giving Mr. Daily and Ms. Walker a route to avoid trafficthat happens to go right pasr Susan's dream house.
Mick Foley even hand writes letters from Santa for little kids. He says he had to work on his penmanship before going along with it, but some kids today are getting handwritten letters from Santa thanks to Mick Foley.
I'm still waiting on a christmas story set in some kind of urban fantasy setting where Santa turns out to literally just be Odin who decided to just go around delivering presents once a year. Like he uses his ravens to check on whose been naughty or nice and delivers presents with the Wild Hunt.
Mick Foley deserves top of King. He has a Christmas room in his house. He is a licensed Santa Claus. He gives so much time and energy to charity... if ever there were someone approaching the Platonic ideal of Santa, it's Mick.
Kurt Russel Santa is actually a lot of fun. He’s got infinite wisdom on everybody, and has enough magic to summon a 50’s style rock ballad in a prison. Christmas Chronivles is underrated af
20:38 my favorite scene in that special is when he is walking with a person ( i can't remember who) and they run into the story of the lil match girl and the man explains to death why this is a Christmas story and that the story is supposed to teach people in kindness and appreciating what you have, death is abhorred by the concept and saves the match girl and hands her off to a group of guards and death explains to the man that since he is filling the role of the hog father, he has to give gifts and there is no greater gift than the gift of life!
you guys forgot Santa from Grandma Got Ran Over By A Reindeer. He basically does a hit and run, kidnaps the grandma but also brings back the teue meaning and spirit of Christmas back to the town the story takes place in.
Rise of the Guardians Santa is my favorite Santa ever. Also, hoping Lani's seen the movie by now, one of my favorite lines is when Pitch Black says "Finally, someone who knows how to have fun!" Because not only is it a sneaky foreshadowing of why Jack Frost is chosen as a Guardian, it's also the villain unknowingly foreshadowing his own downfall.
That whole discussion about Death as the Hogfather reminded of the scene with the Little Match Girl, where he willing broke the rules of death to grant her a long life. That scene made me cry as a teenager
My mom would put on "The Santa Clause" every year, often multiple times across December. She LOVED that movie... I might just watch it again on the 24th or 25th, in her memory.
St. Nicholas provided gold to the father of three young women allowing them to have dowrys for marriage, thus saving them from having to become sex workers. In this way, he became known for anonymous giving (as he gave the gold by pitching it through the window in the middle of the night) and the patron of prostitutes (word chosen for alliterative purposes). Thus, St Nicholas, who influenced the idea of Santa Claus giving gifts in the middle of the night anonymously, is indeed the saint of sex workers. So, that is the story of Santa and sex workers, my stupendous students.
These are so random but I love them. It's like a nice hour-ish of listening to my friends debate random stuff that is unimportant but we take it so seriously 😂 thank you guys for continuing to make such enjoyable content.
Dutchman here. Just noting that Black Pete hasn't been a thing in mainstream media for some years now. That info might've come from an outdated Wikipedia article.
Honorable mention: Scrooge 1970. Not only does it have one of the best present ghosts, At the end Scrooge goes mad with Christmas cheer and rolls up to the Cratchets' house in full Santa gear and buries them in the entire toy shop inventory
Yesss! Death as the Hogfather is so damn good! I'm just finishing my annual reread of the book and it's incredible how Pratchett can be simultaneously hilarious and heartwarming
This list taught me the importance of secondary colors in designs. Replace some of Santa's white accents with black, and the red suddenly looks badass instead of warm and inviting.
I'm genuinely surprised that Kaiser has not seen Elf at SOME point, even by accident. heck, during thanksgiving weekend I saw like 80% of the movie while having dinner with my extended family cause it was just on in the background
Most insane and random Santa has gotta be from Brave Beats. He's absolutely ripped, he pole dances, and he gives a kid Broly muscles. Absolute madness.
Who Is the Best Santa to Ever Santa? That's an easy choice for me, my great granddad, also the only granddad I only knew. He dressed up as Santa in a toy shop where my mum used to work, kinda like what Mall Santas are, and I saw him as a kid. I need to upload that photo up that was taken.
I was going through the comments to see if someone was going to point out that Santa as we know him was created by Coca-Cola in 1931, because they literally defined the "Santa Claus" appearance everyone knows. Green elf Santa is entirely overwritten
I'm disappointed that they in luded the Rudolph Santa but not the one from "Santa Clause is Comming to Town" and "The Year without a Santa Clause." If you don't want to judge all the Rankin Bass Santa's at once, at least include the I onic ones.
I am a tad sad that Santa from Ducktales 2017 wasn’t on this list, the fact that he and Scrooge were originally business partners/friends that broke up over Santa refusing to charge people for coal and toys. Then come present day, Santa faked a leg injury so he could try and repair his friendship with Scrooge. Only for it to nearly backfire when Scrooge delivered coal with invoices to everyone.
50:16 To be fair, the Pete character was changed to remove the stereotype association over time. In the 50s to 60s the rod the character used to hit children as punishment was removed In the 50s to 80s the story was changed from "he's a black person from Moorish origin" to "he's black because he goes down the chimneys a lot". (the appearance was mostly unchanged still, but alas...). Parts of the story were also changed to make the character less of a servant and more of a competent employee supporting the aging and often forgetful Sinterklaas. Finally in the 2010s there were many attempt to change his appearance. From creating "petes" of all colours (Green Pete, Blue Pete etc.) to Stroopwaffle designs. They finally settled on the Pete character having swipes of "soot" on their face, rather than full on blackface (to be more accurate to the chimney story). Some people still refer to him as Black Pete, some use the name Roetveeg Piet (Sooty Pete) and some simply use "Pete". The "Roetveeg Piet" appearance is what is used in a majority of the country now.
I know y'all said you didn't want to know about Miracle on 34th's just cause... I mean 40s~50s were sus in general. but Edmund Gwenn was a pretty stand up guy. Mostly did Theater stuff, appeared in 4 Hitchcock films, fought in the first world War, lost his London home in the 2nd. shared a home with a former British Olympic bobsledder("they were roommates" vibes) but interesting fact about him, he was cremated after he passed in 1959, but his urn was misplaced at some point and only located just this March in 2023. on December 3rd he was relocated to the Cathedral Mausoleum of the Hollywood Forever Cemetery
I'm genuinely loving those videos. Doesn't matter what ya'll are talking about it's always a joy to watch ya'll interact. Next time you manage to get taka in the office he has to be on one of these.
They forgot to include Odin who is the og Santa but to be fare it would be hard to pic a specific version of Odin to be the most Christmassy. Context, a big chunk of the Santa mythos is based off of Yule when the Norse god Odin rides on the back of his magical flying horse Slephnir on a hunt and children would leave their boots outside filled with straw/carrots/apples for Odin's horse and if they where good Odin would leave them gifts.
Man i hope they have rotg North, vampire santa, Polaris express santa, Clause santa, the night before Xmas santa, nightmare before Xmas santa, Rudolph santa even if he's an asshole...lol
Hog Father deserves bottom of King of Christmas or top of Jolly. Death isn't the best Santa, but he *gets it.* He gives the little match girl the gift of life, he gives a guard the present he never got as a kid, and he might've robbed an ultra capitalist toy store, if I remember right?
Ranking Polar Express Santa that low is criminal. Soccer Santa looks worse and this Santa is actually very kind and genuine. (The kids are not forced onto the train, it is a choice)
Hogfather Death is a King He literally saw the Little Match Girl die and brought her back to life cause as he says "The greatest gift is a future" then took her to guards and told them to give her food and a warm bed.
